The Trials - ENDGAME

[Titus]

You're borderline frantic again for us to save Nos and eliminate Mara.

I've wanted to eliminate Mara for days and I have had Nos town since day 1.

[Titus]

Again, calling me frantic doesn't change anything. If Nos is a vote I can count on to execute scum, why would I ever vote for him?

[Titus]

DGB, what's your Mara read? Why?

[Titus]

Nos is the only one willing to vote obvscum Mara. No one's talking about Mara but me. Why should I ever consider voting the only lifeline I have to eliminating Mara?

i think i can turn this around and it remains true:
mara is the only one willing to vote obvscum nos. No one's talking about nos but me. Why should I ever consider voting the only lifeline I have to eliminating nos?

I've wanted to eliminate nos for days

Nos isn't scum though. You should reconsider that read. It's far too popular in lylo.

[Titus]

Mara isn't the sole slot willing to vote Nos. Everyone but me would vote him.

[Titus]

Mara is so null it hurts. I just don't get the scum case on Mara.

Mara has been coasting on null lack of content for several game days now. Can you name one memorable thing Mara has done?

[Titus]

No which is why I have a hard time sorting that slot.

Right. Yet no one all game has made any effort to sort that slot.

The gladiate was a failure. That means at maximum one scum was on it. I think zero but haven't ruled out DGB. I think DGB is being overconfident town.

We can infer that the first challenge was a failure because power was stripped from town. All three slots have acted townie.

We can infer Taylor town based on VCA.

So if we suppose you and I are town.

That leaves Taylor Glitch Titus one of DGB/Nos

There's no room for Mara. Put together a solve and there is no room for them.

[Titus]

Scum have to keep the attention on Nos because they know Taylor will mislynch there.

Just count the number of people willing to do Nos. That's a mislynch in exlo.

[Titus]

titus can you towncase nos?

Sure.

Let's suppose for a moment Nos is a lurker (not true but I'll get to that in a moment) particularly with his sudden absence here. Why does he get attention more than Mara. It wouldn't surprise me if some people never mentioned Mara. Meanwhile, the case against Nos seems nothing more than repetitive noise. Why Nos? Why has that been spammed when other slots are even more lurky?

Nos hasn't been lurky. He's the only one engaging with my content at all. He followed my reaction test on shelly to try and save Pete day 1. We were both wrong, but that's town impact. He demanded content from Marashu with his vote on them.

Nos stood up and defended himself from Sausade day 1 pretty well.

Ask yourself this Taylor. You're a universal townread alive in lylo. Why? Because you'll vote Nos and excuse Mara's lack of content.

[Titus]

Let's count those willing to vote Nos

DGB
Taylor
Glitch
Mara
Gypyx

There's scum in that.

[Titus]

Can you scumcase Nos? His relationships with others would be most persuasive. I read people by how they interact with others as you can probably tell from my towncase.

[Titus]

Psychologically, he's scumtrolling all of us, and lurking because he got bored with it while the rest of us are intellectually stimulated with the task of solving the game.

So what's different between him and Mara? Nos's nakedness pushes forward the game. Mara's nakedness is always on town and he doesn't get pressured for it.

And maybe my egocentric thoughts are coloring this but if Nos is bussing he deserves to win. Whoever eliminates scum!Mara deserves to win this game. If town won't, we deserve to lose. Lurking with nothing going forward is not a way scum should be permitted to win.

If Nos wins because he was willing to bus and town wasn't willing to vote scum, I'm ok with that.

[Titus]

To be honest, I'm a bit bored and frustrated myself. One scum is obvious and the rest of you stonewall it to chase after Nos. I'm bored because one scum was easy and frustrated because the rest of you won't obvtown aside from Taylor.

[Titus]

Put it another way, let's say we vote Nos and he flips scum.

Mara still won't put forth content. You won't lynch him. We lose eventually either way, so why prolong it?

[Titus]

Oh and I'm going downstairs to grab a beer and start the quest towards Drunk!Titus. She hasn't come out in awhile. So have fun with me please.

[Titus]

It's well known you find prod dodging and lurking as scum tells, yet you selectively apply it. I'd be more willing to believe you thought Nos was scum if you put that Nos and Mara were teamed and you'd be ok eliminating either one. Yet, you always deflect the question of Mara to Nos.

Are you ok with eliminating Mara? Yes or No.

[Titus]

Marashu smells of townie in over his head, it's not comparable to Nos at all.

Put them side by side.

Explain this. How is a prod dodging Mara in over his head while an active, influential Nos not.

More than a sentence. Provide proof.

[Titus]

I'm already intoxicated legally and I'm going to grab another. That means I'm really impressionable, so make a case so I can believe you and Mara aren't partners because it sure fucking looks like it.

I don't see any universe where town!DGB defends a lurker.

[Titus]

I hope Taylor comes by because I'm more sure on my townread on her.

[Titus]

Are you willing to vote Mara? Yes or No.

You still haven't explained why Mara is an overwhelmed townie.

[Titus]

You put them side by side. I have and I am wondering why Mara gets protected.

[Titus]

My first drunk instinct is to say where the fuck is the follow up and scum bin him and you.

I will actually ignore that now and give faith a fair chance.

Why didn't you defend Marashu and engage me when I have called him lurker scum for days? Why didn't you defend him and set my head straight before lylo? Literally my whole scumhunting world focuses on Mara scum. It would have been nice to have someone talk to me before lylo.

[Titus]

Oh and this is definitely drunk Titus who feels really alone.

[Titus]

active, influential Nos

Where are the words to express how inaccurate this statement is?

Nos has supported me through this game so why wouldn't I support him. I support those who make me better in this game. He's the only slot that would even remotely engage my Mara read.

I literally feel alone there despite his prod dodging and beetlejuicing.

[Titus]

If Nos has agency captured me, fuck him. If you guys can towncase Mara, I'll vote Nos and suppose I am the town dumbass.

Given Taylor lived, I don't think I fill that role. I think she does.

[Titus]

Nos, if you're town here, you need to get your ass into this thread asap.

I don't like lurking from Mara. I equally don't like it from you.

Drunk!Titus's dream scenario is you two voting each other. We'll get a scum flip high odds scum will bus then.

[Titus]

Nos you have to take some initative. Right now it's not enough for you to sheep me. You're a scumhunting God. Prove it. Get me a VCA scumflip so I can get more reliability in my VCA beyond Taylor town

[Titus]

Mod: Is Nos still being replaced?

I came on to see how much time until Nos is prodded and saw this. PMing you as well. Is he bring prodded or replaced?

[Titus]

Someone else come on please?

[Titus]

Please come on.

[Titus]

My bac is probably a .2. I can't keep secrets.

[Titus]

It's only before 7pm. I shouldn't sleep. Give me a few drunk hours.

[Titus]

I'm going to read Mara's wall tmo. I kinda passed out because I drank too fast.

[Titus]

Drunk!Titus usually paces herself better.

I plan on being back tomorrow as sober!Titus

[Titus]

My bac is probably a .2. I can't keep secrets.

who do you think has the most scum equity with each of marashu an nos?

I hate the phrase scum equity because I don't really get what it means. I am going to guess though at how you mean it as to not dodge your question entirely. I guess you mean which player if flipped will give more information about the scumteam.

Honestly, nos. No one interacted or pushed Marashu besides Nos and I. Everyone doing the same response leads to little hunting potential.

[Titus]

Titus are you a happy drunk or an angry drunk or a something else drunk?

I'm a crazy happy drunk and lose all filters. Cheers

Usually a socialable and agreeable drunk. That's why I wanted to get drunk to see if I could get behind the Nos case. I generally lose all filters and sometimes get angry too.

[Titus]

This is a big yikes. It's like she doesn't need to worry about later days.

I'll respond to this in particular and the wall in general.

I am not worried about future days, minus the solve. We can't play for tomorrow. We lost that luxury.

As for the wall in general, my first priority was to save Nos. I sold myself on Pete and Nora because it meant saving Nos. I don't regret it either. I have yet to hear one good reason for scumreading Nos that didn't apply to Mara, Eddie or anyone else lurking.

[Titus]

I still think the gladiate was a failure and Day 2 was a success. Can anyone answer why scum kill wiyvern? That's what's required.

If Day 1 was a failure, then why are we supposing scum was in the gladiate at all? That would be a reward, not a failure.

If that's correct and Taylor is town, then it's all the more pressing that I convince Taylor and DGB that Nos is town.

[Titus]

Wiveryn usually replaces out of games from what I see.

[Titus]

YOu literally just asked if he was recognized for his reads. Now you claim the answer isn't useful. Da fuck?

[Titus]

So do you think scum ever kill wiyvern on day 2, given this recent information gypyx?

[Titus]

[Titus]

Mod: When are we getting a Nos replacement? It's kinda gamebreaking without one. Literally, the thread should have stayed locked.

[Titus]

It's especially unfair to the scum team but they got 3 night kills and I have no tears LOL.

No. Town literally cannot win right now.

Nos can't obvtown. I am stuck defending an empty near modconfirmed slot from a town!DGB who was tunnelled on possible scum until it got replaced (but you warned us to be fair).

[Titus]

You were defending your failbuddy when he was pissing around the game, so...

Town literally cannot get to four votes to lynch scum, so...

Can you at least just open your ears?

[Titus]

Town literally cannot get to four votes to lynch scum, so...

Wait

Wut?????

Scumslip????????????

No. Nos is town. If the Nos slot is blank, we literally can't get 4 votes to lynch scum.

[Titus]

Well what can we do? We're waiting on Nos!slot at this point.

[Titus]

Agreed. We're at a stall point until you read the game.

[Titus]

I'm going to be distracted across all games. Landlord just gave me 30 days notice.

[Titus]

Max, here's the situation.

This is a mountainous setup. There are three modconfirmed scum. None of them have been lynched. Town were exxecuted ("sent to the trials") three times. At least two of these failed. I am under the impression that the first and third failed. The second kill makes no sense as a failure. The first gladiate being all town makes sense as a failure. That would make DGB and Nos town. Slight problem with that is that you're Nos and DGB wants your head. I feel Taylor is town by her play.

Therefore, unless I am wrong somewhere, the townies are Taylor DGB you and me.

If we have any hope of convincing DGB you're town, you'll have to come up with some content and fast.

[Titus]

Good news is, I got the apartment.

Bad news... it's unfurnished.

So less anxiety but less time.

[Titus]

someone come tell me im confbiasing or tunneling pls

Why would scum!maxwell pick a fight with you?

[Titus]

Titus's VCA summary in 1826 is largely incoherent to me. Postulates a bunch of theories but conclusions toward certain players being town feels very arbitrary.

That's how most people feel about my VCA.

[Titus]

Ok so... maxwell, your previous solve is still up to date?

Gypyx, are you willing to vote Marashu today if I vote him now?

You, me, maxwell is three.

[Titus]

i want to say that ill vote for glitch here. but i dont think many others will.

Glitch would be a vote with reluctance.

[Titus]

VOTE: Marashu

[Titus]

Two are a normal crossvote and I don't feel comfortable voting in the other one. Not really that weird.

+1

[Titus]

Yeah probably Gypyx Glitch Marashu... like I have been saying

[Titus]

Your vote won't be hammer. We'll still need DGB.

[Titus]

Nah taylor, you just shouldn't vote Marashu, maybe there's a bussing story between the 2 but maxwell the vote here i think

You want me to make a case? I'm bad at those but I can try

If you think there's a bussing story, it shouldn't matter which is flipped. That's doubly true this close to deadline.

[Titus]

Now suddenly you doubt there's a bussing situation when I call your vote out.

You don't suddenly have a townread on Marashu, so why isn't your vote there given the deadline?

[Titus]

How many ways could I say it Taylor and DGB? How many ways?

We had mara scum. Instead, you misexecuted the slot I have told you was town since day 1.

We, as a collective, deserve this loss.

[Titus]

so titus you stand by your scumteam of glitch gypyx and marashu? or does that mean you're TMIing that you know maxwell will flip town and youre scum?

Reread this.

I stand by my scumteam.

[Titus]

You guys can brag already.

[Titus]

This setup was stupidly unbalanced. Guessing two mafia right on day 1. Guessing two night kills. Most players can't do that. Town never had any information to correct with.

That doesn't change the fact the mafia played hard.

[Titus]

titus trials were rather hard but ratio was townsided and imo scum did play a really good game

Ratio was not townsided in a vanilla game.

[Titus]

We were never told about this negation.

[Titus]

Yes but the rules don't say horrible results negate successful trials.