Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

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VOTE: Walter for killing Donny

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UNVOTE: walter

VOTE: DGB for not using a video of Art Blakey

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UNVOTE: dgb

VOTE: almost for making me listen to Meatloaf

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UNVOTE: almost

VOTE: titus Nothing more scummy than puns.

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Drew- even if it's RHPS related?

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UNVOTE: walter

VOTE: DGB for not using a video of Art Blakey

He was boring and sloppy!

I do appreciate it's a good reason to vote for me.

UNVOTE: titus

VOTE: DGB boring and sloppy? sir, i challenge you to a duel

[a2rudeboy]

Also, since this is music themed, REST IN POWER.

Anyone disagrees, that's a straight policylynch.

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UNVOTE: dgb


VOTE: pooky Man, i fucking hate the eagles.

Leia is town.

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Bambi, can we both agree to be town this game?

Do you agree Lurkers are one of the bane's of Forum Mafia?

A-ha... No Doubt

This post was gold. And I don't know what the opposite of a FoS is....maybe Golf Clap of Approval? But yeah, that's what you get.

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Although...

UNVOTE: pooky

VOTE: leia

Improper use of possessive punctuation.

[a2rudeboy]

"bane's"

[a2rudeboy]

fair point. well played.

UNVOTE: leia

VOTE: bambi for the language is my mistress, and i shall not casually accept such an affront.

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Don't worry. Still 100% give Leia the GCoA

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But Leia, you made one of those posts.

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Being that you basically softclaimed as scum?

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Either you outed yourself as a hydra, or admitted to cooperating with someone else. So, that would mean you are trying to breadcrumb a connection between you and Titus while also trying to distance yourself from it.

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Leia, who is the other scum?

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And All Glory to the HypnoTOAD.

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a2rudeboy is chainsawing me. I think I've actually caught 2 scum on page 4 and the frog is trying to salvage the situation.

Titus + a2rudeboy + poster of 9

So. Titus. Me. and YOU!

[a2rudeboy]

Leia, who is the other scum?

Probably PookyTheMagicalBear. It's cool and all if he's magical, but the use of magic powers on a forum where 95% of users will be non-magic feels like the use of an unfair advantage, and just the kind of tactic scum would pull.

If anyone here is magical, it is the person who knows the Force.

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And Leia, i don't think you are bussing. I am just super confused by why your proof point for scum, is a post that also indicts yourself?

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UNVOTE: bambi

VOTE: tiphaine for posting "hey what's up" like they are active, but only responding to stuff from a page ago

[a2rudeboy]

a2rudeboy is chainsawing me. I think I've actually caught 2 scum on page 4 and the frog is trying to salvage the situation.

Titus + a2rudeboy + poster of 9

Fucking end me if this is how you normally behave

Sounds like a true Jester.

[a2rudeboy]

Here I am! The tragic clown...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIle_6Vzm5A

still don't know how to tag youtube links

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UNVOTE: tiphaine

VOTE: gamma Gotta bus someone.

[a2rudeboy]

Tiph- to what extent do you think i am taking this seriously

[a2rudeboy]

@mod can we get a vote count?

[a2rudeboy]

NPOM- you don't care about being voted.

Are there other people in the game who are aware of your role flavour?

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Gamma- I have my reasons.

And I highly suggest everyone unvote NPOM

[a2rudeboy]

It all comes through in the wash.

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It all comes through in the wash.

Speaking of.

How does a reaver clean his spear?
They run in through the Wash.

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UNVOTE: gamma

VOTE: almost Wall of posts. Best female guitarists video posted does NOT include Ani Difranco.

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DGB- what do you think of almost?

[a2rudeboy]

I'm telling you guys. You don't want to lynch NPOM

[a2rudeboy]

Anyone fancy a good ol' fashioned massclaim?

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(I may be V/LA for a bit... internet is going down)

[a2rudeboy]

if locktown is a band. it is a ska band, and i have dibs on drummer/

once more, get those votes off NPOM

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UNVOTE: whoever the hell i was currently voting

VOTE: doctor Sir, I find your attack against ska personally affronting. No one but scum can hear those upbeats and not smile.

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Looker- Are there other people in the game who are aware of your role flavour?

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Clarification- Not protecting NPOM. Information and a hunch makes me think there are more beneficial people to lynch.

[a2rudeboy]

That's actually my favorite Kiss song.

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Tiph- Do YOU have a role flavour known to exist by other characters?

[a2rudeboy]

Just sittin' here waiting for Looker and T to answer my question

[a2rudeboy]

Titus calling me important looks like pocketing to me. It's also weird that she votes me at the same time of saying that.

VOTE: Titus

What we have here is your basic self-deprecating setup followed by the sideways glance as the punchline hits used by many successful comics through the years, your Kaufmans, your Dangerfields, your Newharts. Classic laugh grabber.

Don't forget your Mitch Hedbergs.

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rudeboy

there is plenty else to do here

what do you think of the TDeath Wagon?

Do you think Tdeath is the most OBVIOUS SCUM SCUM EVER?

or is he being unfairly chased by a wild bear?

I have reason for assuming T isn't scum. But that's based on the question I asked and their response.

The only way to be chased by a wild bear, is if you exit whilst being pursued by one.

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And it is connected to why I'm saying don't vote NPOM, and why I asked looker the same question.

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Tiphaine- question is in #429. I also asked it of NPOM in #169, and Looker in #334

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I think NPOM (and to an extent TPhaine) are both playing emotionally reactive games after being prodded by Leia/Pooky.

My own suspicions for not thinking NPOM is scum, relate to the flavour of my role, and his desire to pretty much be killed regardless. Also, look at #292.
I have a hunch about the game mechanics, based on my role and flavor. The question I have asked of NPOM, T, and Looker are directly related to trying to figure if my assumption is correct or not.

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If you get lynched, and it verifies my assumptions, I still can't tell if that's positive or negative.

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But hey, if you wanna talk top-notch contribution look no further than Lavender.

[a2rudeboy]

If only there was a way for someone to not care, give up, get lynched, and win...

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Almost- I am pursuing an assumption. but it can't be proven by one flip.

Walter- Thank you. What do you think on TPha/NPOM?

I think we have some heavy heavy lurkscum in this game. At least four or five people haven't really contributed anything, or at least anything of any significance.

@mod. request for vote count. and that PZ prod.

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Post-thought: I wouldn't be surprised if half the scum team is spam/shitposting; and the other half is lurkscum. May be deliberate, they do have Day Talk.

[a2rudeboy]

Almost- Read #515

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Also, #344.

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UNVOTE: unvote dr.

just because it is still a RvS / joke vote.

i still don't have scum reads on any of the three wagons, although i suppose i'd have to NPOM if choosing one of the three, just for the flip.

still think scum is in the lurkers more than any of the fully active. but again, i think that may be an active scumsplit ploy. be looking forward to scumthread when this is all said and done.

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god damn NPOM. you reaaaalllly aren't doing yourself any favors. which makes me think my assumption is more correct.

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pisskop- slap that on the resume, like bootsy slaps it on the bass.

ie: ya gotta keep it on the one.

[a2rudeboy]

VOTE: flakes

[a2rudeboy]

Big wheels keep on turnin', bandwagon keep on burnin.

[a2rudeboy]

Putting this here for future reference: At some point iso Leia and who may have drove them to quitting.

[a2rudeboy]

UNVOTE: flakes

If leia is getting a replacement, I want to hear from them first.

[a2rudeboy]

From the Forum:

" I think Micc is town but I can't explain why because of ongoing games.

This is acceptable because no details about the other game are mentioned or implied.

I think Micc is town because his play here is similar to an ongoing game where he was town.

This is not acceptable because it mentions specific details about an ongoing game (that Micc was town)."

[a2rudeboy]

IKS- You believe there's at least one scum in your wagon. Why do you exclude Galron from the list?

[a2rudeboy]

IKS- in my mind galron is just as scummy as some of that wagon.

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in response to 624- at the time, i was ok with getting on the ISF wagon, but it was gathering speed too quickly for me. So. Leia gets replaced, I take my vote off, because that was a character slot a LOT of people had scum reads on, I wanted to see how the replacement came in, and i honestly could see this town quickhammering at any point right now.

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Meanwhile, Galron:

A) Votes a RvS
B) Leaves it on for a long time
C) Doesn't contribute much
D) Changes vote, seemingly as another RvS
-Bandwagon starts-
E) Tells another player who is lurking to basically "jump on the wagon", which they do
F) Makes sure his initial vote is counted
G) disappears again

[a2rudeboy]

piss- It is a noticeable Decisive Action, by two players who haven't done much in that realm before or since

[a2rudeboy]

Let's just lynch all the lurkers, clear the field, and keep the game going with active people.

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(Just gonna put that obvious sarcasm there, in case someone needs a bullshit basis to build on me later)

[a2rudeboy]

Good god, we are just going in circles right now.

[a2rudeboy]

D1 scumhunting bores me, and is usually a 50/50 crapshoot anyways.

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All i meant was that D1, especially in a large, I could honestly care less who dies. I just track notable moments of change in character, what caused it, and then wait for the flip.

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That being said, I don't know how much info we are gonna get out of this day

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Thought about it on my car ride home.

You know what? Here's what i propose:

We take a random lurker, REO fuckin' Speedwagon them all the way to something like L-2, and see what we can get from that. It'll at least make this next week far more entertaining.

VOTE: lavender

pre-edit. i still choose lavender.

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Alright, Lavender showing up!

Let's switch this SpeedWagon!

UNVOTE: lavender

VOTE: Nono

All the kids are doing it.

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I mean, we now know IKS is super on board.

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@Almost- my primary intention is to get lurkers to become active, Lav looked like they were just about to contribute right before i started the wagon (as in, as i was posting), but i still wanted to get a wagon going to elicit some responses. Which it has. We've seen IKS insta-join without reason twice now.... so, i go back to my original focus of trying to drum out lurkers into playing, and we have a new way to interpret IKS

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Walter- At this point, which ever lurker we wanna get the REO on, I'm all in.

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jesus fucking christ this game does my head in.

[a2rudeboy]

Why ask who Nono is and then vote Dave?

And the answer to who is Nono, is exactly the point of the bandwagon I am trying to make

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Bef, how is Npom town? I do not understand this one.

Because of rudeboy's conftown statement.

Again, not a conftown. My assumption is, there are better people to lynch than npom.

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yeah, re-reading this morning.... Drew and I basically came up with the same "WTF?" at the same time

UNVOTE: nono

VOTE: looker

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If we want to talk about someone who is trying to be here, but kinda just gliding by:

VOTE: Galron

Tried to get this one going...

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UNVOTE: looker

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At this point- the only way i can see NPOM getting taken out is lynch or Vig.

[a2rudeboy]

@Star- check 344 and 515

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All i was saying, is that there is no way in hell scum would NK him

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Shredding is the game flavor for lynching.

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yeah we need a mod count.

and i'm pretty sure some people are at prod status?

[a2rudeboy]

Why are we discussing jesters?

Probably because the game is stalling a little? We need a crazy wagon.

I've tried the crazy wagon to no avail

[a2rudeboy]

I'm just gonna sit here and wait for chkflip to catch up through 38pgs of nonsense

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I'm just gonna sit here and wait for chkflip to catch up through 38pgs of nonsense

I predict more than one person, including myself, will be called something along the lines of a stupid mothertrucker.

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yeah we need a mod

selective post-quoting. i see what you did there.


VOTE: almost

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UNVOTE: almost

VOTE: galron This is the wagon I am most comfortably on.

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TP- Do you have a meta game for this, because i would VERY much like to read it.

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So, if I did my maths right? That's 7 for Siteflake: NPOM, gamma, drew, bright eyed, tiphaine, almost, walter.

Pooky and Bambi both taking votes off of ISF since the last count.

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drew- unless i misread #1099

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At this point, the only way I'm taking my vote off of Galron, is if we have a half-decent Lavender wagon going.

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ok NPOM, I'll do your homework for you.

#720. And then not much has changed since then.

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Galron- I'm good where I stand. I have two people I'll vote for today. That is all.

[a2rudeboy]

I need to do a deeper dive on Looker, Lavender, Bambi, Walter, A50, Gamma, and Bright so I can get rid of all the null in my field of vision.

Have fun. Won't take long.

[a2rudeboy]

I'm really sorry guys, my laptop just hard-crashed last night and I am posting from a back-up computer that I have very intermittent access to. There is no way I can have sufficient computer access to be able to play and I'm not going to have my new computer for at least a week. I think I need to request replacement. Hope ya'll have a good game.

I am almost prepared to lynch the spot than have someone come in, catch up, and get a read on them in a short period of time.

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I'm really sorry guys, my laptop just hard-crashed last night and I am posting from a back-up computer that I have very intermittent access to. There is no way I can have sufficient computer access to be able to play and I'm not going to have my new computer for at least a week. I think I need to request replacement. Hope ya'll have a good game.

Any chance you can use your phone and/or just hang around till the end of D1?

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I'm really sorry guys, my laptop just hard-crashed last night and I am posting from a back-up computer that I have very intermittent access to. There is no way I can have sufficient computer access to be able to play and I'm not going to have my new computer for at least a week. I think I need to request replacement. Hope ya'll have a good game.

I am almost prepared to lynch the spot than have someone come in, catch up, and get a read on them in a short period of time.

That's not a very pro-town position, especially on Day 1.

I've been working on two things all of D1:
1. Trying to suss out the assumption i had earlier
2. Getting rid of lurkers

At this point, I just want to get out of D1. All the discussions and arguments feel like circular logic, nothing much seems to be changing. Let's just get a few flips and go from there.

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@IEC- that's what i'm saying. i dont want someone replacing in at this point and also possibly making D1 last any longer when i think really we just need to get it the fuck over with at this point.

where's DGB at, they've gone silent even more so, maybe at prod status?

lavender needs to contribute fucking something.

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Like, other than IKS being fucking trollscum, what are we going on?

[a2rudeboy]

fuck this.

VOTE: lavender

the Dude no longer abides.

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Because Lavender has not made one, single, god-damned contribution. And i'd rather lynch than play the rest of the game with them

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@chk. Lavender or me?

@drew, which person in particular? I support Galron and Lavwnder wagons equally.

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@drew- I don't necessarily think ISF has been scummy as much as trolly. He would be third on my list of people to get rid of, i just think that last wagon on him built up way too fast for comfort. which is why i did a manual vote update.

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I regret reading that some players have jettisoned the righteous Siteflake wagon to hitch a ride on the heretic Lavender Sedgway? So lame.

Lavender Sedgeway is life.

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so, nothing from 1342 ?

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Ah, so we aren't shredding today, then?

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It doesn't necessarily look very good to spend my whole day railing against not voting NPOM, and then either hammer or put him at l-1.

[a2rudeboy]

I'm hoping for a late surge on the lavender wagon... as they continue to drop in, promise content, and not deliver.

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Lavender is lhf probably.

Firstly, had to look up to see that that meant "low hanging fruit"

And secondly, again, NPOM....you really don't want to help your case AT ALL, do you?

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Also willing to vote pisskop, asking for two fucking claims when neither is shred-1 is super disgusting.

It doesn't necessarily look very good to spend my whole day railing against not voting NPOM, and then either hammer or put him at l-1.

Why are you concerned about how you look?

Doesn't usually happen, but I agree with chk here.

Because, obviously.

How many wagons can be started based on "well, he said all day he wasn't going to vote NPOM, don't vote NPOM, and then as soon as NPOM was going to get shredded, he joined the wagon"

That's basically saying: "Hey scum. Here's a really easy target and all the ammunition you need to take another person out/deflect attention from yourself"

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Lavender for me doesn't have any pure scum tells, other than lurking and not providing a single damn relevant post, even after promising to do so.

Huh, i guess those ARE scumtells in a way.

I'd just rather lynch a lurker who is prodge'ing and not contributing, than someone who we may actually get something out of at some point.

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Lavender for me doesn't have any pure scum tells, other than lurking and not providing a single damn relevant post, even after promising to do so.

Huh, i guess those ARE scumtells in a way.

I'd just rather lynch a lurker who is prodge'ing and not contributing, than someone who we may actually get something out of at some point.

why dont you ask her direct questions you want her thoughts on instead of going KILL THIS LURKER.

+1. I mentioned it before, but I'm not liking this policy push from rudeboy.

There are plenty of folks who lurk and not provide relevant posts as town and scum. It's NAI.

This feels like distracting from the two perfectly good wagons that we have right now because rudeboy wants to save NPOM. But the question that remains is why?

I mean, at this point, I'm not entirely sure how many times i need to underline, capitalize, bold, etc that I am not saving, protecting, or any sort of thing NPOM

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Way to ignore the other part of the post bro

Chk did. To produce a reads list. Which she gave us, and as already been discussed, wasn't really worth much of anything.

Also, I apparently was unaware that direct questions need to be asked for a person to produce content.

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If I am coming off as a toxic douche, it is largely due to my frustration with the general state of this game, and a bit inflamed by MeatWorld stuff.

Pooky- What are your reasons for not being on either the IKS or NPOM wagon?

Lavender- If not NPOM, who should we lynch today and why?

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BEF- Was your intention to simply do something to do something to push the game forward, by hook or crook? Or, why else would you use your dayvig on someone with a pretty large and constant wagon?

Titus-

This game feels static. I might have to do something.

This was back before you and Starbuck spent a good while in a circular argument. What was it you were thinking of doing? Would it be useful to do that now?


also, UNVOTE:

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@Looker- Tphaine announced a vla/possible replacement (He wanted to be replaced, a number of people argued for him to go v/la so we don't have to have a replacement catch up so close to end of D1/so D1 doesn't get extended)

Bambi is pretty infrequent in general.

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Lavender for me doesn't have any pure scum tells, other than lurking and not providing a single damn relevant post, even after promising to do so.

Huh, i guess those ARE scumtells in a way.

The thing is that's exactly how she plays as TOWN. (I haven't even seen her scum game yet, but I witnessed her town game 2 or 3 times already)

even if that's how she plays as town, the question, is it helpful to town?

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Post-edit: If we are dealing with as inexperienced as Chk is saying, and seeing signs of improvement. I am more than alright to keep her in the game.

[a2rudeboy]

-roll to reinstate BEF's DayVig-

[a2rudeboy]

I mean, if we coordinate this, we could get both at L-1 and really see it fly

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Interesting that both of the major wagons are voting Piss

[a2rudeboy]

I mean, if we coordinate this, we could get both at L-1 and really see it fly

What do you want from this rudeboi?

Chaos. Anarchy. Information.

[a2rudeboy]

Titus- please see 1468

[a2rudeboy]

iks l-2
npom l-4

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Why is pisskop only L-7?

Because people find you and NPOM more scummy/lynch-worthy.

Also, with how much this game has slowed down, I doubt getting a 7 vote wagon, eighteen hours before deadline is really going to work.

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More popular is more like it.

Actually, more like: At this stage of the day (ie, close to deadline), if you want to cause a massive wagon shift, you are going to have to provide some pretty HOT TAKES reads which are able to convince enough of the people in the game, especially veterans, to switch from a l-2 or l-4 to a l-7

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Also NPOM- the wagon you are pushing... was started by the people with the two most votes in the game. which is enough to put me off of it.

[a2rudeboy]

Question since I've simply never played with a developer role: Are they always pro-town or could it be a likely scum role as well?

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i dont think developer is normal role. its custom.

Normal enough to have a page on the wiki.

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That's iks at l-1, correct?

[a2rudeboy]

At least this game will be spicier later on, ones the dead slots die or get replaced...

You want to kill the dead? Are you talking of zombies??

gonna go out a limb and translate it as "once both people on wagons and/or those barely playing or i dont want to play with are out of the game."

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I think NPOM is literally ten minutes away from self-hammering out of frustration.
He is very knowledgeably trolling.
I still do not support either of these wagons.
Depending on what happens during night, I expect any surviving of NPOM/IKS to have early wagons on them D2.

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I dont think iks is 'knowledge trolling', whatever that means. Id expect somebody in his shoes to be pushing for a different wagon and producing a finalized readslist in order to at least get a last will out and at most dismantle his wagon. If ever there was a task to spend your psychic energy on, itd be efforting on the sudden wagon shift.

I went to clarify before you posted this but my internet crapped out.

Knowledge troll: By this i meant i think he knows is saying things that will entice people and draw attention on himself and piss people off. Not that he is trolling knowledgeably (ie: in a way that actually helps town/him or as part of a strategy)

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Im sceptical about the lack of activity now, not any trolling beforehand.

do you mean activity in terms of postrate or scumhunting?

[a2rudeboy]

The claim was used as bait to get people to switch; its the least effort to get the results he wants (not get roped)

i don't disbelieve the claim. i question the alignment.

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@also- I am Sweden.

@piss- That's what I'm saying. It's not town enough to get attention and votes off him, he isn't trying any defense, he's not scum enough to even try to push elsewhere or again defend himself.

I think my thoughts on this are pretty well figured out.

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I am amazed rudeboy and pisscop can communicate so smoothly

Game recognize game.

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I think NPOM is literally ten minutes away from self-hammering out of frustration.
He is very knowledgeably trolling.
I still do not support either of these wagons.
Depending on what happens during night, I expect any surviving of NPOM/IKS to have early wagons on them D2.

@rudeboy: Did I misunderstand this? Where you referring to IKS be the HE in the second line?

Sorry, maybe some switched pronouns there.
NPOM is knowledgeably trolling.
IKS is trolling knowledgeably.

[a2rudeboy]

what is the current votecount

[a2rudeboy]

I'm a little more curious about the DayVig making it through the night.
And the DayDoc saving scum.

[a2rudeboy]

I'm a little more curious about the DayVig making it through the night.
And the DayDoc saving scum.

Do you think those are real roles and not just fakeclaims?

I'm not entirely sure at this point.

If fakeclaims, what would be the point, other than to distract from growing wagons? "The bantz"?

If the DayVig WAS real, we never got to find out because DayDoc got in before the mod.

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Obviously Drip will claim she didn't direct the titus kill but she probably did.

You really confuse me with your posting style. It is unclear if you mean Drip will claim that Drip didn't direct the titus kill, or Drip will claim Star didn't direct the titus kill.

Either way. I'm not getting scum off of Starbuck. It would be a real ballsy gambit to NK the person you've spent all day arguing with, especially as an experienced player taking out another experienced player, with so many experienced players left.

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NPOM- is it a deliberate tactic to post 3 or 4 short posts in a row, usually not quoting what you are referring to, in order to screw up any iso reads?

BEF/Pooky- was the dayvig/daydoc serious, or just Bantz?

[a2rudeboy]

NPOM- is it a deliberate tactic to post 3 or 4 short posts in a row, usually not quoting what you are referring to, in order to screw up any iso reads?

BEF/Pooky- was the dayvig/daydoc serious, or just Bantz?

if BEF is a dayvig then I'm a daydoc

if BEF is not a dayvig then I guess I could still be a daydoc?

I'm just saying if your claims are both true, you both making it through the night becomes suspicious.

[a2rudeboy]

Also Pooky, knowing IFS is scum now - still glad you saved him? (assuming you actually did)

[a2rudeboy]

VOTE: lavender

I'm going back to this.

[a2rudeboy]

Lavender- You don't need a reads list. And if it is the same as your last one, it's not worth much anyways.

[a2rudeboy]

Rudeboy, is that hunch about TD, npom and looker still good?

Nothing's changed.

[a2rudeboy]

At this point, if Lavender makes it far in the game and wins as either town or scum i will rage.

[a2rudeboy]

At this point, if Lavender makes it far in the game and wins as either town or scum i will rage.

why would you not want town to win

I dislike Beetlejuicing more than i dislike scum.

[a2rudeboy]

P: Lav is premature.

My partner says that about me quite often...

Why is it premature? Nothing to gain from their flip, or low-hanging fruit?

[a2rudeboy]

I think its unlikely that both were scum.

I think this is a logical fallacy as it does not account for our knowledge that IKS is scum.

The probability of any 2 people being scum together is lower than the probability of any 1 person being scum.

However the probability of NPOM being scum given that IKS is scum is not equivalent to the probability of IKS/NPOM both being scum independently.

In pure probability terms - we are talking about what the probability of NPOM as scum is independently of IKS alignment.

However given that IKS flipped red and refused to vote NPOM despite NPOM being pretty scummy and within the range of being lynched while IKS was under threat of being lynched increases the probability that NPOM is also a scum.

All probability is 50/50. It is or isn't, happens or doesn't happen.

[a2rudeboy]

Why is it premature? Nothing to gain from their flip, or low-hanging fruit?

For meta reasons. Not meta on lav, game meta.

If lav is scum, he'll continue doing fuck and all.
If lav is town, presumably he'll continue doing fuck and all.

The difference is what we do once we narrow down the suspect pool. We can afford to set him aside for now as a low content lurker and push other people. No way he makes it to endgame. And as a plus, any shenanigans he tries or roles he claims will be studied with more knowledge later on. The game is large enough and the body count is as of yet small enough to afford to ignore it as null.

orrr.... do you want to take some attention off of your scumpartner.

seriously though. if the player pool is so large at the moment, doesn't it benefit us sooner rather than later to get rid of the person? scum won't NK Lav. and as always... 50/50 chance they come up non-town, which benefits more when there's a larger pool of people.

[a2rudeboy]

I'm pretty sure I'm trusted by the majority

honestly, at this point, i think you may find a large amount of people willing to get rid, just so every day's conversation isnt "NPOM, eh? eh? eh!?"

[a2rudeboy]

That's because scum is focusing on me for distraction.

No it's because your play style, at least so far, at least seems tangentially scummy, doesn't offer up much, AND frustrates people. You are a safe wagon for scum, because they can hop on at almost any point. You will always be wagoned nearly-every day.

My suggestion, is if you are ACTUALLY town, to dramatically alter your style and interactions.

Otherwise, like i said, it's going to be wash, rinse, repeat, of this every day. If you are scum, you are making this actively difficult for yourself. If you are 3P, than good riddance anyways. If you are town, you are actively hurting the town.

Now, I'm going to the bar.

[a2rudeboy]

Suggesting a policy lunch when there has been more scum decapitated than town is scummy in itself. Who cares if I'm annoying if I am catching scum?

NPOM. In all seriousness. The quote function is not fucking hard to use.

[a2rudeboy]

That's because scum is focusing on me for distraction.

No it's because your play style, at least so far, at least seems tangentially scummy, doesn't offer up much, AND frustrates people. You are a safe wagon for scum, because they can hop on at almost any point. You will always be wagoned nearly-every day.

My suggestion, is if you are ACTUALLY town, to dramatically alter your style and interactions.

Otherwise, like i said, it's going to be wash, rinse, repeat, of this every day. If you are scum, you are making this actively difficult for yourself. If you are 3P, than good riddance anyways. If you are town, you are actively hurting the town.

Now, I'm going to the bar.

I find it interesting YOU are posting this. What happened to your flavor speculation?

Oh, you know. Town points.

Bantz.

General desire to keep the game interesting.

A plan.

Also, I REALLY like going to the bar.

[a2rudeboy]

NPOM as 3p is something I have thought of, but the 'defense'(I know you said you aren't defending him, but just for sake of argument I am using that term) of him by Rude just doesn't make sense if they are 3p together(ie cult).

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I will 100 percent hardclaim not to be in a third party with NPOM. That is as much as I am willing to say on this point till at least D3.

[a2rudeboy]

also, UNVOTE:

This unvote (from Lavendar) was when both wagons were in the 7-8 range with 1.5 days remaining.
Why did you stay on the sidelines from this point? I see you keeping close watch on the counts but not voting.

Because I was trying to get a vote on Lav for the same reasons as i am now. I didn't support either wagon, and wasn't going to vote either wagon after spending all day not supporting them. So. When it became clear Lav wasn't going to get any traction, I removed my vote.

Chk gets it.

[a2rudeboy]

Lavender needs to shit or get off the pot.

[a2rudeboy]

D1: "let's wagon NPOM"
D2: "let's wagon NPOM"
D3: "if chk flips town, let's wagon NPOM"

-sigh-

[a2rudeboy]

if we are gonna wagon NPOM, let's fucking do it.
if we are gonna wagon Lav, let's fucking do it.

IKS flip gave us some stuff to analyze, but i don't think it's moved the game state forward, as we are basically having the same arguments as D1, now with one less scum and one less town.

[a2rudeboy]

If anything there's been relatively few wagons this game so far.

There's been a fair few.

It's just you've been the center of the most constant ones, both days.

[a2rudeboy]

if we are gonna wagon NPOM, let's fucking do it.

Has this sentiment from you completely vanished?

I'm telling you guys. You don't want to lynch NPOM

I know you said later on something to the effect that you have nothing "solid" irt post 221, but is your NPOM town read gone?

I never once had a town read on NPOM.

[a2rudeboy]

So. NPOM outta nowhere comes up with good content, spreading it out, causing people to pause their actions and wait for what has been promised (side note: Looker has also done this), And then he ramps back up to shithousery. Yeah, this slot is acting exactly how I thought it would.

chk- i read that scumthread. you seemed REALLY intent on wanting to get titus out of there so she didn't make it to endgame. i'm not SR you yet, but this made me think.

[a2rudeboy]

Rude and I have the same role flavor. Rude asked me some questions to confirm it and I did. So now we are just trying to determine if we are both town or not, which I am leaning towards yes.

I...uhm.....uh... yeah. Don't have a response to this.

[a2rudeboy]

Can confirm: If NPOM's flavor claim is correct, we do NOT have the same flavor.

[a2rudeboy]

I meant our role name flavor not the band name.

Please clarify what you think we have that is the same.

[a2rudeboy]

You want me to claim?

I want you to explain what "role name flavor" means to you.

[a2rudeboy]

You want me to claim?

I want you to explain what "role name flavor" means to you.

Are you still thinking he shouldn't be shredded?

My thoughts on NPOM have not changed. I still think he is what I think he is. I still think he is likely to get wagons ran up on him early in the day and then we will eventually taper off to someone else near EOD. If he is to be shredded, I would like to see it under a very specific way which I will bring up if it becomes reality.

No need to play all my cards.

Looker- I was referring to the "3 more" and then "2 more" at the bottom of posts.

[a2rudeboy]

(just a quick MeatWorld note:

I was placed on a 50/50 furlough this afternoon for the next 6 months. (basically, i have to do the work of two people one week, and file unemployment the next, so on etc) and, as such am wildly fluctuating in terms of mood from moment to moment. this may be reflected in my posting style, whether through tone or consistency.

that is all)

[a2rudeboy]

ONLY because of rudebois wierd-ass mason-hinting, (Sorry rude, but like, it's obvious to anyone with two braincells that's what you are breadcrumbing at this point, I'm done beating around bushes on it)

I am not mason-hinting.

[a2rudeboy]

Intent to not shred. My vote is staying where it is this gameday.

[a2rudeboy]

Also, if we shred someone, do we go into night or are we still paused?

[a2rudeboy]

TPhaine:

[a2rudeboy]

The counterwagon is Lav.
See the Lav.
Love the Lav.
Vote the Lav.

[a2rudeboy]

although, to be honest, i would also totally support shredding the Walter spot as opposed to waiting around for a replacement, 112 pages in.

[a2rudeboy]

VOTE: walter

[a2rudeboy]

DGB- come on over to the walter wagon. it's gaining traction.

[a2rudeboy]

NPOM isn't happening.
Lav isn't happening.
Looker is at S-1 anyways.

It's gonna be looker or walter.

[a2rudeboy]

People had votes down / suspicion on Walter througout the game. We've been at what, near a week for a replacement? Anyone who comes in, unlesss they've been following the whole time, is probably not going to do a full catch-up. The loss of this slot in the next day or so seems inevitable to me anyways.

If looker is sus, he will only get more so by lasting another day.

[a2rudeboy]

Or he'll be a lightning rod tonight and it will be hilarious.
VOTE: walter

Sir, I admire your style.

[a2rudeboy]

Lynching an empty slot doesn't feel right

Call me crazy. But the reason I came back to this site after ten years was to actually PLAY some Mafia. This is a large extent to why I've actively pursued a lynch/replace all lurkers strategy, or tried to prod lurkers by building wagons on them..

I'd rather not wait an indeterminable amount of time for a replace that might never come along.

[a2rudeboy]

More information benefits town.
More people actively playing, benefits town.

[a2rudeboy]

Nope. He's S-1. Again. Fish went dave because reasons.

A lolhammer sure would shake up the gamestate.

Ask and you shall recieve.

[a2rudeboy]

Wait, why the hell is IKS back, and posting more shit about dowels?

[a2rudeboy]

also a strong

FoS chkflip

[a2rudeboy]

also a strong

FoS chkflip

Fucking come at me, dude.

You couldn't get it done yesterday.[/quote]

All I'm saying is you replaced in, quickly saw there was no way anyone would believe you backing IKS, bussed him the fuck outta here.

Then, you took out Titus at night, for the reasons I previously mentioned.

And you hard-rode a mislynch D2.

It's not enough for a vote, but it's enough for suspicion.

[a2rudeboy]

also

VOTE: assemble

gonna park this hear till they show up.

[a2rudeboy]

here*

[a2rudeboy]

All I'm saying is you replaced in, quickly saw there was no way anyone would believe you backing IKS, bussed him the fuck outta here.

Wait what? I definitely recall chk defending IKS quite strongly, at least starting off.

honestly, we are 120 pages in, so my recall may be shitty.

but, even then. chk defending the IKS developer role plays even more into a theory of why he would be scum.

[a2rudeboy]

All I'm saying is you replaced in, quickly saw there was no way anyone would believe you backing IKS, bussed him the fuck outta here.

Wait what? I definitely recall chk defending IKS quite strongly, at least starting off.

honestly, we are 120 pages in, so my recall may be shitty.

but, even then. chk defending the IKS developer role plays even more into a theory of why he would be scum.

Have you ever played with Chk?

I have not. This is my first game on site in 10 years.