Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: drippinggoofball

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: Almost50

Help me, Almost50. You’re my only hope.

1- I am not Han Solo (more like Chewbacca, actually)
2- How am I supposed to help you if your after my head already?

1- You're Obi Wan. I see it in your eyes.
2- Voting people is the way I show I care for them. I'm giving you attention.

You care for people by removing them?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Thank you. May the rebellion prosper.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Also, since this is music themed, REST IN POWER.

Anyone disagrees, that's a straight policylynch.

Good music, I approve.
MEatloaf? Does anyone actually ingest this real hotdog hamburger thing?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I thought we would get a game start pm.

Really?

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: BambiJay

I want out of RVS.

Why so Titus?

[WaltertheDunce10]

K Good
AGREED
I don't get rvs personally.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Why would knowing his flavor matter? I would expect flavors to not mean much in this game.

I mean maybe it does, We don't know yet.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Anyone fancy a good ol' fashioned massclaim?

I don't think doing it this early is a good idea. Unless you have a good pitch for doing that.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Maybe a reaction test?
It could be that roles are not true town and may be a 3p that is still part of town or scum?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I had the same thought doc

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright
That's better
Why did you feel the need to reveal rn?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Dont like leia trying to get you to tell her.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Well, Let's see what happens if anything.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yes.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Truly.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Hmm
Tiph that seems really weird you would be k with dying.
Leia is very erractic, I agree.

[WaltertheDunce10]

gamma town slipping crazy hard rn

respect

I agree.
Add her as an honorary member pooky.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am with Gamma on that. Wanting to die is just not natural for most people.

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: TiPhaine
pedit Alright. That is what I thought on the death thing

[WaltertheDunce10]

Aaaand 16 pages to remind me why I don't play this game anymore. I forget exactly how deep the stupid can run. Well done ya'll <3.

K, Do you want to contribute or just whine?
Whining is not exactly endearing you to me.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Plus. I should add that this game has barely begun. We have ten days.
Be the change you want to see is my take on things like this.

[WaltertheDunce10]

My second post is an addon to 393.
I was just pointing out to Tiphaine that it is still early D1
What D1 is not a crapshoot?

[WaltertheDunce10]

What do you find weird Drew?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright.
Is pooky usually this much of a banterer?
Tiph seems the type to aggravate easily.
Just pointing out that self-defeatism is not a healthy trait.
he thinks people are acting stupid and my point was that it is early D1 and posts tend not to be high-quality things yet.
He just sounds frustrated as fuck and I want to know to what extent it seems real.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Are you one of those Charmin bears pooky?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yes, but aren't all bears magical?
This is offtopic
@ Drew,
I don't like seeing people pushed out of games because of toxicity. I am also conflict-adverse so conflict just makes me want to slam my head into a wall and say why.
Apparently Tiph is a CFJ alt. There is my stupid wifom theory.

[WaltertheDunce10]

A 1v1 of friendship of course

Alright.

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: unvote
I like 459 and the fact of the matter is that I only promote toxicity by voting along side it.
@ Rudeboy Is this q important to you and why?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think NPOM (and to an extent TPhaine) are both playing emotionally reactive games after being prodded by Leia/Pooky.

My own suspicions for not thinking NPOM is scum, relate to the flavour of my role, and his desire to pretty much be killed regardless. Also, look at #292.
I have a hunch about the game mechanics, based on my role and flavor. The question I have asked of NPOM, T, and Looker are directly related to trying to figure if my assumption is correct or not.

Alright, the reason I am asking is because I think town needs to know this information.
I do have role that is known by others.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think NPOM (and to an extent TPhaine) are both playing emotionally reactive games after being prodded by Leia/Pooky.

My own suspicions for not thinking NPOM is scum, relate to the flavour of my role, and his desire to pretty much be killed regardless. Also, look at #292.
I have a hunch about the game mechanics, based on my role and flavor. The question I have asked of NPOM, T, and Looker are directly related to trying to figure if my assumption is correct or not.

Alright, the reason I am asking is because I think town needs to know this information.
I do have role that is known by others.

TO clarify it is a role flavor not the actual role.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Almost- I am pursuing an assumption. but it can't be proven by one flip.

Walter- Thank you. What do you think on TPha/NPOM?

I think we have some heavy heavy lurkscum in this game. At least four or five people haven't really contributed anything, or at least anything of any significance.

@mod. request for vote count. and that PZ prod.

Tiphaine, I see as frustrated with a slight town read.
NPom Seems to be a similar type of player to tph. More null than anything. Hard to read. Thought the role start pm thing was odd to start.
I don't read players who ate very well.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Looking through Flakes iso, the two cc seems kinda weird to me.
Pisskop, why did you not feel the need to vote until after Goofballl on Flakes.
Flakes, what did you see that made you cote for Flakes?

[WaltertheDunce10]

That third line should be for Goofball.

[WaltertheDunce10]

K.
VOTE: Flaking

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am not really liking galron.
AlsoVOTE: unvote
I should stop hopping and make an actual contribution.
I don't like Icerint's list because it has a lot of town reads I feel like for this early in the day. pedit Coincidentally, now that I am looking at that list, slot's looker npom are reads I have a hard time with are listed as scum.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Yeah, I can see why.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I should stop hopping and make an actual contribution.

Do you think what you did before this wasn't actual contributions? if not, why not?

I sort of feel like I have been reactionary voting by going along with what others are saying without forming my own proper opinion on a slot. Just going along with a bandwagon.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Thought about it on my car ride home.

You know what? Here's what i propose:

We take a random lurker, REO fuckin' Speedwagon them all the way to something like L-2, and see what we can get from that. It'll at least make this next week far more entertaining.

VOTE: lavender

pre-edit. i still choose lavender.

@Almost- my primary intention is to get lurkers to become active, Lav looked like they were just about to contribute right before i started the wagon (as in, as i was posting), but i still wanted to get a wagon going to elicit some responses. Which it has. We've seen IKS insta-join without reason twice now.... so, i go back to my original focus of trying to drum out lurkers into playing, and we have a new way to interpret IKS

So, that is just one reaction and a good one, why not extend it out to see who else reacts. I don't know if it is that necessary to switch that quick. I get your point on lurkers but why not wait to see what else they post?

[WaltertheDunce10]

VOTE: NPOM Yeah, sorry rudeboi, I'm no longer sufficiently impressed by your "information," to continue to allow this to live.

VOTE: TD

This vote is garbage.

Most vote this game have been garbage so far, and I suspect it will still be the case for the rest of the day (i.e. until we do get a flip)

I agree,
VOTE: Galron
Mostly because of the whole telling a player to vote for someone and that is it.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright.
Yes Drew you are.
Rudeboy, what makes you think scum won't nk NPOM.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Why are we discussing jesters?

Because based on the last game 3ps are likely. I think I may have commented on it earlier.

Honestly though I think I can see 4 scum 1 traitor 2 3p working out tho. Or 4 scum 3 third party garunteed SK.

I agree with bambis take here.

pedit No, I was woindering why the hell he is so insistent that NPOm won't be.
Ignoring a poss because of Npom's play which has not been helpful does not mean he will be alive. For an example I must cite site rules.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I like that Titus did post a list,
Titus was this in response to 962 or 967?
Genuine posting from Ice on a meta dive.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I like that Titus did post a list,
Titus was this in response to 962 or 967?
Genuine posting from Ice on a meta dive.

do you like how she slotted you?

It is accurate on the lack of action. Not the scum part though.

[WaltertheDunce10]

No reason, just saying it is accurate.
I have reasons to not be too helpful.

[WaltertheDunce10]

But this week my schedule cleared up a bit so that is good.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I'm just surprised I got to 7 without doing much.

This confused me too but it is the number of the playerlist in bakers original post.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Galron - Weak town, worried by his Iec push.
2. Gamma Emerald - Town
3. DrippingGoofball - Town
4. PookyTheMagicalBear - Town
5. Titus - Fun Spreader
6. Lavender - Who? Scum by PoE
7. Bambi Jay - weak town
8. TiphaineDeath - weak scum
9. WaltertheDunce10 - scum by lack of action
10. BrightEyedFish - Town
11. NoPowerOverMe - Moderate town
12. Almost50 - Where is he? NAI for him. Null
13. pisskop Papa Zito - Null, giving a chance to redeem
14. Looker - Would lynch
15. Iecerint - Town
16. Doctor Drew - Town
17. Starbuck - Lean scum
18. a2rudeboy - Town
19. Princess Leia - Would lynch
20. I Keep Siteflaking - Survivalistic but likely floated as a viable mislynch bc no wagon on him
21. Nono - Let's see what chkflip does

Titus, what do you mean by chance to redeem?

[WaltertheDunce10]

But this week my schedule cleared up a bit so that is good.

sounds cya

meh.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I like that Titus did post a list,
Titus was this in response to 962 or 967?
Genuine posting from Ice on a meta dive.

967 tbh.

Alright.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I asked baker to let me play this with just posting YouTube guitar clips but the idea was vetoed

Aww man.
TD, could you elaborate on your read of Galron.

[WaltertheDunce10]

@walter, they feel kind of side-line coasting, looking for a way to have good logic without actually having any? Their push on Icerint is terrible, as is the reasoning behind it, and I am not particularly impressed with the IKS wagon either.

Thanks for answering that,
I was looking at Galron iso again and 450 also pops up for me because it just says Pooky has the reasoning he does on an earlier post.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Alright, Don't know about Gamma's push for modkills.
Among us is free on mobile.
Though 1050 does seem honest from gamma.

[WaltertheDunce10]

ugh don't like Bambi post either.
You know what, why reveal that info at all?
VOTE: Bambi

[WaltertheDunce10]

ugh don't like Bambi post either.
You know what, why reveal that info at all?
VOTE: Bambi

The thing about multiple deaths is me sticking to my original theory with a possible serial killer around. My thing about not dying is me confirming something that'll happen later.

hmmmm
Alright.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Really, dowels.
VOTE: Siteflake

[WaltertheDunce10]

CHK explain for real
VOTE: unvote

[WaltertheDunce10]

wking?

[WaltertheDunce10]

K I did not know that.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Then why not vote for chk then?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I want chk to explain rn.
VOTE: chkflip

[WaltertheDunce10]

uh oh

walter gon die now

VOTE: Walter

If I have to claim I will
I would prefer to not do that.

[WaltertheDunce10]

LOL
LOL
ALright. Fine.
Sorry.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Most of the wagons have been abs shite.
Seriously pooky, I really want chk to explain.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Truly,
Chk could you explain?

[WaltertheDunce10]

IKS has no completed games. That was fast. <_<

Is IKS an alt then.

[WaltertheDunce10]

fuck this.

VOTE: lavender

the Dude no longer abides.

I approve of this quote.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Because Lavender has not made one, single, god-damned contribution. And i'd rather lynch than play the rest of the game with them

this is an incredibly rude post to make

You disagree pooky?

[WaltertheDunce10]

I agree on 1354 there plus if npom is jester I assume he just wins as a separate wincon.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I agree on 1354 there plus if npom is jester I assume he just wins as a separate wincon.

If you agree that NPOM is the most likely scum and can be lynched, vote for him with me.

Alright, VOTE: npom

[WaltertheDunce10]

Vote Count 1.09

It's dark already?

I Keep Siteflaking (7): NoPowerOverMe, Gamma Emerald, Doctor Drew, BrightEyedFish, TiphaineDeath, Almost50, Bambi Jay
NoPowerOverMe (6): Iecerint, Lavender, Starbuck, WaltertheDunce10, PookyTheMagicalBear, Galron
Doctor Drew (2): I Keep Siteflaking, chkflip
Lavender (2): a2rudeboy, Titus
Galron (1): davesaz
WalterTheDunce10 (1): Looker
chkflip (1): DrippingGoofball

Not Voting (1): pisskop

With 21 players alive, it takes 11 votes to shred someone.
This is me on the weekends.
Day One ends on Monday, September 28th 2020 at 10:00 am EST in (expired on 2020-09-28 10:00:00)

[WaltertheDunce10]

I meant to say that was me on the weekends.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I mean, if we coordinate this, we could get both at L-1 and really see it fly

What do you want from this rudeboi?

[WaltertheDunce10]

A look up of john browne audio engineer does seem to be a guitarist.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Rereading iks claim in post 1682 makes me think it is not the right conclusion. Who puts abilities out to night 8? That is a really long time.
VOTE: iks

[WaltertheDunce10]

Rereading iks claim in post 1682 makes me think it is not the right conclusion. Who puts abilities out to night 8? That is a really long time.
VOTE: iks

I think there probably are killing roles .

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am going to look at the cw and the no votes.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I am going to look at the cw and the no votes.

First one chkflip
Quick question, Npom was also a policy elim, yes?
Though we know he was the cw to a scum.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Get the fuck off the Siteflake wagon. All of you.

D2: "wHeLp ThEy DiD iT tO tHeMsElVeS. lOl"

I'm not wasting this fucking phase because one shithead doesn't wanna put their big boy pants on and actually play the game with some sense of self and dignity.

Get

THE FUCK

off the Siteflake wagon.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

I'm good with this.

I think chkflip if scum was not happy with his teammates yet in the end voted for npom even though he does not like policy lynches. I call bullshit. I don't see much solving from chk, just a lot of questioning which lines up with the game I have played with him where he was scum. Going further into meta territory although weaker, Titus is one of the people he mentioned that does know his scum game.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I'd honestly prefer if we start on the people leading the counterwagon instead. Considering someone like Goofball called for a Vig shot on people voting IKS, it felt more like there was a chainsaw defense and less bussing.

If there's anyone who looks like a chainsaw it's chk with the generic we're not eliminating this troll message.
I doubt it was that, because it's chk's nature to rage against policy, but I'm definitely keeping it in mind.

The part where I call bs if it is chk nature against policy then why npom in the end.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Chk, first off welcome, but what is your opinion on Dave?

Personally he has seemed townie since replacing in, but I believed his original form(Leia) to be very scummy.

I feel like a fresh set of eyes on Leia could offer some new insight.

Also, as superficially scummy that NPOM has been, I feel like we should stay away from that lynch.

Chk, Icerint basically quoted a bunch of posts from Leia that made me scum read her, was a shit case on TD. Thought she was kind of trolling, but she seemed to to really commit to it, so made me believe they were really trying to make a case.

As far as NPOM, he is saying things that I have said as town and got scum read for it. He is basically appealing to my emotions without even knowing it lol...which tbh, does make me take pause and wouldn't hate his lunch. But, I feel like rudeboy has some insider info that we should trust since I don't believe scum would stick their neck out for a buddy so directly.

VOTE: Siteflake

I am just going to stick to my guns.

Siteflake's reaction to being wagoned was so non-chalant that it is like he new it would pass(and if he is scum, good idea to look and see who was pushing alternate wagons). Imo, town would get at least somewhat defensive or do something to get votes off of them. The way Siteflake acted was almost like he had people to coach him and assure him that this wagon wasn't going anywhere.

And him calling out PK just reeked of 'let me find anything in his meta that can make him look bad'. How am I the only one that sees it that way?

I know I am kind of repeating a recent post of mine, but the timing of my wagon seems weird and I wanted to expand on a few of my thoughts. I just don't get the pushback on me.

There's a shit ton of WIFOM coming from NPOM's direction. Can some of you on that IKS train unvote so there's not an accidental hammer, please?

VOTE: NPOM

Do you one better.

About 10 hour to deadline, we should reach a consensus.

Siteflake's claim could be town or scum as stated, not sure the proper protocol on that...gut says still shred him, but....

NPOM has been really trying to poke holes in his claim in a grasping at straws sort of way, brain says to shred him.

And I don't get why anyone wants to shred Pisskop.

For Drew the things that stand out is the changing opinion on npom and he seems conflicted in the end on both wagons. Has reasons to suspect siteflake.
Not even close to all posts on npom/siteflake, Get a towny vibe from it though.

[WaltertheDunce10]

That does it.

VOTE: I Keep Siteflaking

I am not really liking galron.
AlsoVOTE: unvote
I should stop hopping and make an actual contribution.
I don't like Icerint's list because it has a lot of town reads I feel like for this early in the day. pedit Coincidentally, now that I am looking at that list, slot's looker npom are reads I have a hard time with are listed as scum.

VOTE: WaltertheDunce10

Just vote Siteflake. You'll immediately feel better.

NB: If NPOM flips scum, I would be REALLY suspicious of DGB. It's VERY UNUSUAL for her to ignore someone who protects someone for outguessing flavor on D1. Her avoidance of NPOM all day is out of character for her.

Way to make me feel real self-conscious about this, Iecerint!

VOTE: NPOM

VOTE: iks

There's a counter. I am ok with him dying.

IKS is scum too.

VOTE: iks

There's a counter. I am ok with him dying.

IKS is scum too.

If both are scum reads to you, why join the smaller wagon? Asking for a friend.

Iecerint's case was convincing.

I will switch if necessary.

I don't intend to claim at all at least not today.

CLAIM STALL DETECTED

VOTE: NPOM

I believe AKS' claim. I don't know if it's scum or town, though. But I am willing to wait and see.

Starbuck is town.

Town mislynching my top townread is simply not happening. Any other questions?

I might have to switch my vote to you for this post.

Here is a list of people that aren't voting for scum NPOM:

BrightEyedFish
TiphaineDeath
Bambi Jay
Titus
Looker
pisskop
davesaz
I Keep Siteflaking
PookyTheMagicalBear
Gamma Emerald
a2rudeboy
Almost50

aka my vig list

Why are you defending him?

I just threatened to swing my vote back on him, if I'm defending him I'm not doing a good job.

Goofball seems to vote without a clear thought process. Also lack of quotes makes it hard to tell. Interesting to note while voting for Walter thae reply to someone was vote for iks. The claim stall is a bit weird. Other than that believes npom is scum. Considers to vote iks for that post on refusing to vote for npom. Neutral feeling
I am curious goofball if you believed both were scum why did you believe people who voted for other than npom deserve to be vigged?
pedit Do you mind pointing to where chkflip says that?

[WaltertheDunce10]

K, that is a good point.
I can buy that is not a policy for chk based off that.

[WaltertheDunce10]

First one chkflip
Quick question, Npom was also a policy elim, yes?
Though we know he was the cw to a scum.

So, uh. Did you forget the reason that you voted for NPOM?

To me this reads like you generally thought NPOM was policy, rather than that chkflip specifically thought so.

Honestly, yes.
I have been busy with work and been disengaged from this game the latter half of d1.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think chkflip if scum was not happy with his teammates yet in the end voted for npom even though he does not like policy lynches. I call bullshit. I don't see much solving from chk, just a lot of questioning which lines up with the game I have played with him where he was scum. Going further into meta territory although weaker, Titus is one of the people he mentioned that does know his scum game.

Your memory is fun, considering the fact that "the game" you mention here shows me literally hyperdunking on my partner who had no light on them whatsoever and rode that shit to victory.

Titus can't fucking read me. I can obviously read her, but if you look back at our history you'll see that she scum reads me in *checks notes*

every single game we're in together.

What I *did* say in post of "the game" is that I killed her because of her VCA ability.

NEXT!

K, Chk, My apologies that I don't live inside your head or have more experience between you and titus.
Would you say as scum Chk you are capable of emulating this attitude or is this more your town meta?

Pooky I am not giving you the popcorn you desire. No.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think chkflip if scum was not happy with his teammates yet in the end voted for npom even though he does not like policy lynches. I call bullshit. I don't see much solving from chk, just a lot of questioning which lines up with the game I have played with him where he was scum. Going further into meta territory although weaker, Titus is one of the people he mentioned that does know his scum game.

Your memory is fun, considering the fact that "the game" you mention here shows me literally hyperdunking on my partner who had no light on them whatsoever and rode that shit to victory.

Titus can't fucking read me. I can obviously read her, but if you look back at our history you'll see that she scum reads me in *checks notes*

every single game we're in together.

What I *did* say in post of "the game" is that I killed her because of her VCA ability.

NEXT!

K, Chk, My apologies that I don't live inside your head or have more experience between you and titus.
Would you say as scum Chk you are capable of emulating this attitude or is this more your town meta?

Pooky I am not giving you the popcorn you desire. No.

First line should include 'on meta'.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I can't fucking read chk, it seems different from the game I had with him. I can't talk about the other reason why I voted for iks.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Why is it premature? Nothing to gain from their flip, or low-hanging fruit?

For meta reasons. Not meta on lav, game meta.

If lav is scum, he'll continue doing fuck and all.
If lav is town, presumably he'll continue doing fuck and all.

The difference is what we do once we narrow down the suspect pool. We can afford to set him aside for now as a low content lurker and push other people. No way he makes it to endgame. And as a plus, any shenanigans he tries or roles he claims will be studied with more knowledge later on. The game is large enough and the body count is as of yet small enough to afford to ignore it as null.

That is a really good point.

[WaltertheDunce10]

I think that scum if they had tobus would have done it earlier on, but the viability of npom wagon makes me think that scum prob either got caught up on npom or switched late like myself. Although that assumes npom is town if he is scum then Idk.

[WaltertheDunce10]

Wait are we actually saying we wagoned 2 scum day 1? I don't believe it much.

Then who do you believe is a better option than npom?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Wait are we actually saying we wagoned 2 scum day 1? I don't believe it much.

Then who's the scum? Who are you voting for?

Wait are we actually saying we wagoned 2 scum day 1? I don't believe it much.

Then who do you believe is a better option than npom?

If he tells you someone, will you vote them? Who do you think is scum?

The quote on my last post is irrelevant to my post.

It was on a Thursday.

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• Pisskop and Doctor Drew agreed in their PT to use the word "poopoo" as much as possible.
  
• "Content". Now give me a vote.
  
• Doctor Drew and Pisskop have been caught. What they are, I have no idea; but they're something.
  
• Starbuck's words don't really help me. I don't attack her play because I'm an adult, but yeah, I don't see what use she is. Maybe she thinks she's actually finding patterns in this place - whatever makes her happy in this game people play to kill time.

No, Looker.
Poss npom.
I need to do a reread but that won't happen until like monday due to work.

[WaltertheDunce10]

is it bad I want to keep him around just to watch you insult him?

Awful
Looker, what did you make of my reply, then?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Very helpful

[WaltertheDunce10]

I didn't say all town were focusing on me, I said scum were focusing on me to avoid scumhunting.

What makes you think they are on you compared to mine?

[WaltertheDunce10]

Your wagon