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Post Post #48 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:51 pm

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strife220 wrote:Can you link the role on the thread Has? My role is identical to one on the worst roles thread, and I expect most others are too.
the key word is most. I don't think my role is in the worst roles thread, and don't forget that the mod said he would modify some roles.

Also,
vote: Killah Nine


I also think we could use this as a Litmus test for any other scum. We could ask people to say in
what
part of the pm and
how
in the pm Kscope phrased what he did about Mininieko.
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Post Post #50 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:00 pm

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Maybe you're right. After all, I'm sure Kscope is
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to modkill someone, if not ALL of us.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #2) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:01 pm

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skitzer wrote:
Vote: minineko


Also, my post says that Flameaxe and BridgesAndBaloons are confirmed masons.
!!!???


My role doesn't say this.
Wtf. Explain yourself Skitzer.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:10 pm

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armlx wrote:I think Minneko has to die at some point to be sure, but some point doesn't have to be now.
QFT.
I mean, what would you do if everyone said they got a pm saying you were scum? You'd have to claim some sort of miller, which is actually what Minneko did.
So, to make it clear,
FOS: Minneko
, especially if KillahNine is lynched and turns up town. (which is doubtful).

Game integrity being comprimised is a pretty big issue.
I'm sorry, I don't know what you're referring to here.
Are you considering being modkilled against the spirit of this game?
In the original post he made he mentioned there was a risk of being "randomly run over by a bus." Combine that with Skitzer being mod killed unless he mentions people in his role pm, and combine this with looking at some worst role ideas, I think there's going to be some modkillin'.
Also didn't the original rulset warn that you could easily be modkilled, or am I imagining that part?
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Post Post #63 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:26 am

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skitzer wrote: BridgesAndBaloons, my PM pretty much came out and said that that you and Flameaxe were confirmed masons.
I can't think of any reasons why you'd be lying. Unless you have some bizarre win condition where you need to get everyone in your role pm NKed or something.

Anyway, I'm not a mason with Flameaxe.

Maybe you're trying to get your scum-buddy Flameaxe confirmed? Maybe you think we're vanillas that should be NKed?

Or maybe the mod's just messing with us again...
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Post Post #83 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:03 am

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stark wrote::lol:
This game is going to be amazing.

K9.

Why should we believe that you'z a souped up doc?

This is worst roles mafia, dawg, you'z on the rock.

You'z an invincible physician? I dispute yo position.

Yo head'z on the chopping block.
If you talked like this for the rest of the game I'd be so happy.
But you probably shouldn't do that.

Anyway, I'd like to make sure everyone speaks before night. I don't like the idea of having someone potentially get to easily lurk through all of this day. Or maybe almost half of the players are post-restricted? I would lol so hard.
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Post Post #86 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:13 pm

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FOS: dybeck


I can't believe you ended the day without some of the people even
posting
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Post Post #104 (isolation #7) » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:19 pm

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prod: FlameAxe
Prod: xyzzy


These people haven't posted this game.

Vote: M4yhem
For trying to look like his scum-hunting while ignoring all the bandwagons started today. He's not pro-town by attacking such a wide spectrum of players.


P.S. isn't anyone else incredibly disappointed that DGB wasn't the jesterbomb? It would have been awesome to see a repeat of this amazing example of being a great jester
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Post Post #110 (isolation #8) » Sat Aug 02, 2008 8:01 am

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M4yhem wrote: Neither the minineko or the DGB wagons have any reasoning whatsoever behind them. No reasoning = easy to ignore.
My
role pm said Minineko is scum. That's from the mod. That's plenty of reasoning. She said that she isn't. That's coming from her. Is it possible that the mod is lying? Yeah, but you failed to
even mention
whether it's right to lynch her not. Do you think we should let Minineko slide the whole game? Do you think we should lynch her later? You failed to mention anything about this the whole game. It's like you instantly believed her claim. Why?
Then, DGB i think is being attacked for not voting Minineko, and making a really random vote on someone else? Maybe I'm wrong. But if you didn't understand, why didn't you ask Hasdgfas?
And unless you know all the non-voters are protown, I don't see why it's any concern of yours who I attack. I simply want them to contribut more and I find a fos gets people going better than any polite request.
!
Show me a specific game you played in where an FOS worked better than a polite request.
It is my concern because you avoiding all scum-hunting at this point. You're not just failing to scum-hunt, but you're completely
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Post Post #115 (isolation #9) » Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:30 am

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M4 wrote: 1. Noone ask me what my opinion was. I don’t see why I have to give you my opinon on everyone if there’s no sign anyone wants me to.
Sweeeeeeet! Because No one asked me to scumhunt. I don't see why I have to scumunt if there's no sign that anyone wants me to.
M4 wrote: Also, I thought you were inciting people to vote DGB without actually having the guts to do it yourself. Scummy tbh.
What!? We have
16 players alive
. Do you seriously think that based on one post, 8 other people are going to vote DGB? Do you really think that this will lead to a lynch?
How on earth is this scummy this fresh in the day with so many players? If anything, he's trying to start a bandwagon which is clearly pro-town, especially since day 1 we didn't learn too much.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:56 pm

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The fact that people are still debating with m4yhem makes my confused.
It's pretty clear no rational argument is going to emerge.
Do you believe it is pro-town to FOS more than half the town?
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Post Post #137 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:33 pm

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Oh I think I get it. When you said
It's pretty clear no rational argument is going to emerge.
it's another way of saying
There's no explanation he could give to justify it

Is that right?
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Post Post #154 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:45 pm

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Strife:
is post 137 correct?
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Post Post #156 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:05 pm

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More votes on m4yhem so she'll actually respond to questioning please
Yes.

Also, what is your gender, m4yhem?

xyzzy: I know you have an annoying post-restriction. My guess is you're a n00b, or something. How restrictive is your post restriction? Can you even scum-hunt? I mean, could you ever make a full-out case against someone?
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Post Post #162 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:31 am

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Ugh, we need a bunch of prods...

So, it's pretty obvious that both Xyzzy and TheFonz aren't going to be too useful for the town. Xyzzy can vote, which is better than TheFonz, but I'm not sure how much control he gets over his vote. I really don't know what to do with players like this. Do we keep them alive all game? Do we ask our vig (if we have one) takes care of them? Do we lynch them? Do we just wait it out a couple of days before we decide anything? Also, it's very possible that one or both of them is scum faking a post restriction. I would like to hear what the other players think about them.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #15) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:38 pm

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Here are all the prods we need. These people haven't post for four or more days:

Prod: FlameAxe
Prod: DrippingGoofBall
Prod: Minineko
Prod: killa seven
Prod: Rogueben
Prod: Erratus Apathos
Prod: Stark


It's possible I made a mistake somewhere. I might have prodded someone who doesn't need it or miss someone who does need a prod. I didn't prod TheFonz for obvious reasons.
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Post Post #172 (isolation #16) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:38 pm

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Coron: Can you answer questions?
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Post Post #174 (isolation #17) » Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:02 pm

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are you suspicious of anyone right now?
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Post Post #179 (isolation #18) » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:00 pm

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I think there's a way of getting around Coron's restriction. Instead of asking questions, we can just demand responses.

For instance, instead of asking "who do you think are scum?" we can say "tell me who your top suspects are."

I think this works. We'll try it.

Coron: tell me if this works.

I wonder if the mod read my prods...
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Post Post #188 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:36 pm

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mod: what are the deadline rules?


xyzzy confuses me so much. Especially posts 178 and 188.
Rogueben wrote:
vote: strife220


His push against M4yhem appears forced. The attempt to make out the mass fos as scummy doesn't really make sense.

That is all for the moment.
I'd agree with that if it wasn't so early.
Could you provide evidence that shows that what he's saying is forced?
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Post Post #192 (isolation #20) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:46 pm

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strife220 wrote:
BridgesAndBaloons wrote:
Rogueben wrote:
vote: strife220


His push against M4yhem appears forced. The attempt to make out the mass fos as scummy doesn't really make sense.

That is all for the moment.
I'd agree with that if it wasn't so early.
What do you mean, if it wasn't so early? Early in the game? Why would his vote be better 'later' ?
This case you made really isn't that good. If you were making that case later in the game it would definitely be forced. Therefore, if you made this case later in the game,
his
[i/]
vote on you would be a good move.

What I'm trying to say is, that there really isn't enough reason to lynch anyone right now imo, including M4yhem. Unfortunately we have a deadline, and I'm pretty sure it helps town to lynch someone instead of no-lynch, so we just have to go with the best option. M4yhem has been slightly anti-town, and that's why I'm voting for him (and why you're not wrong right now). If we had more time, I would expect to find a better candidate.
Speaking of, does anyone have a better idea of who to lynch? How about you, M4yhem: anyone you want gone?
I'll check the votes after I post this
I've never had such a short day before (except for the first day of this game...) and I'm not confident with my vote.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #21) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:27 pm

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unvote
I believe the claim.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #22) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 2:41 pm

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strife220 wrote:
BridgesAndBaloons wrote:
unvote
I believe the claim.
If you believe the claim, then by unvoting him, you are effectively voting him.
lol. I Totally forgot about that. I'm going to vote for someone by deadline, but I don't see anyone who deserves to be lynched. Any suggestions?
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Post Post #214 (isolation #23) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:41 am

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Here is kind of the lurkers. I eliminated everyone who posted on this page and also farside. Farside seems to not really be lurking and he's provided way more content than any of these players:

1. FlameAxe - said he's been busy with classes. Hasn't posting any content at all.
FlameAxe:
when will you be able to post anything?
3. DrippingGoofBall- was actively "scum-hunting" but disappeared two weeks ago. Has she been prodded?
Prod: DGB
She's voting for hasdgfas
5. Minineko- really hasn't posted much content. She/he has made posts about not being sure who scum is. Hasn't voted yet.
9. hasdfgas - really strange lurker. Was gone all of day 1, and most of this day and suddenly appeared 2 days ago. He made 2 posts towards M4yhem, but didn't accuse him or anyone else. Hasn't voted.
11. The Fonz - not really a lurker, but still just as a viable as a lurker lynch imo. I'm still scared he's a scum with a great pr.
12. killa seven - only voted each day and didn't say a word. Lurking, PRed, or fake pr? he's voting for xyzzy.
13. Rogueben - not really a lurker but hasn't posted since 4 days ago. voting for strife.
14. xyzzy - voting for Minineko. He is playing with a wierd PR that makes it hard for me to see if he's scum-hunting or just randomly voting.
17. Erratus Apathos - made 3 posts and refers to himself as lurking. voting for DGB.
20. Stark - just like DGB. Made 3 posts the first day, and hasn't posted since July 29th. It would seem like he forgot about this game, but he picked up his prod.

It's possible there's someone who has been lurking, but posted on this last page. I didn't check the "all posts" for anyone who posted on this last page.

vote: Stark
his lurking is totally inexcusable and he ignored his prod. Compared to everyone else, his and Erratus Apathos seem the most
intentional
to me.
I'm also willing to vote Erratus Apathos. He's even admitting to lurking.

All the other lurkers have some sort of possible reason I can think of as justifying there lurking, or at least don't seem as intentional as Erratus or Stark.

Also let me know if lurking is someone's general playstyle. I'm not familiar with most of you.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #24) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:42 am

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M4yhem wrote:
I think minineko is the closest we have to an actual lurker btw. All the others have given a reason, like Flameaxe, or are just plain not here, like Stark.
Is plain not here an excuse for lurking?

Their excuse for lurking is . . . lurking?
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Post Post #217 (isolation #25) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:08 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
BridgesAndBaloons wrote:9. hasdfgas - really strange lurker. Was gone all of day 1, and most of this day and suddenly appeared 2 days ago. He made 2 posts towards M4yhem, but didn't accuse him or anyone else. Hasn't voted.
I'm definitely not lurking. I have posted really really often. BnB, read through Day 1 and 2 and see how many times I'm quoted. Plus, I voted for DGB, and it didn't count. Again.
When I checked your "all post by hasdgfas" I only see three posts including this one. Did someone delete your early posts, or is something else wrong?
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Post Post #218 (isolation #26) » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:09 am

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M4yhem wrote:
BridgesAndBaloons wrote:
Is plain not here an excuse for lurking?

Their excuse for lurking is . . . lurking?
Well yeah, if they haven't been on the site at all, they're not really lurking, they're busy/their internet is broken/they've lost interest in mafia.

It's the ones who are active in other parts of the site but not in this game that are really interesting. Or the ones that post without any content.
darn. I completely forgot to check who was active on other parts of the site when I did the lurker list. I have to go somewhere now, but I'll try to check that when I come back. Unless you want to check the most recent posts of all those players. . .
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Post Post #225 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:21 pm

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Post Post #228 (isolation #28) » Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:21 pm

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prods all around please.
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Post Post #239 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:47 am

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I don't understand that role. Couldn't you vote yourself and a majority of the players, and then have a majority being mafia to instantly win the game?
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Post Post #244 (isolation #30) » Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:36 am

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I just realized that while M4yhem's role-claim may or may not be true, but even if it is, he could definitely still be scum.
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Post Post #248 (isolation #31) » Sat Aug 23, 2008 2:21 pm

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Seriously.

Mod: did everyone pick up their prod? Who hasn't?
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Post Post #253 (isolation #32) » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:17 am

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Unvote, Vote:M4yhem

It seems to me like you were fishing for ssf to convert someone to scum. Absolutely no pro-town reason at all to do that.


Also, the lurkers seriously suck. Really.

(Also noting M4yhem's continued defense of DGB)
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Post Post #279 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:54 pm

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Post Post #303 (isolation #34) » Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:50 pm

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still not enough access to read these games.
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Post Post #385 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:41 pm

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M4yhem wrote: To preempt the inevitable questions; yes, I should be dead. I asked the mod about it and I was given a free pass because of the large amounts of lurking going on yesterday.
I do not buy that bullshit. You lied about your role. You're scum.

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Post Post #389 (isolation #36) » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:36 pm

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uh... why aren't more people voting M4?
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Post Post #407 (isolation #37) » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:58 am

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Hello?

Not only did M4 lie about his role, but he
also
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Post Post #415 (isolation #38) » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:44 am

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Cass wrote:The fonz probably isn't scum. [...]
we could put enough votes on someone, I'd say The Fonz
What?

As for the general idea, I'm a little scared. If we
are
in LYLO, it's a way for scum to win the game.
M4yhem wrote:
BridgesAndBaloons wrote: Not only did M4 lie about his role, but he
also
was fishing for ssf to convert someone to scum.
I was messing around. I knew he wouldn’t vote me, and the game was slow and dull.
Does this sound like messing around to everyone:
M4yhem on post 236 wrote: Vote for me, see what happens.
and
M4yhem wrote:
somestrangeflea wrote:If you become scum or are already scum, what proof do we have that you won't just
lie
about what happened?
No proof whatsoever but at least
I'd
know how it works.
Different thing:
m4 wrote:
Cass wrote: This seems the last game to me where the mod would make allowances for inactivity.
I can see your point, but which do you think would be crueller- lynching me according to the rules in my pm, or leaving me alive knowing the town would inevitably lynch me tomorrow?

I’d bet the mod is getting a kick out of this situation.
Now this does raise an interesting point...

Ugh. I'm just scaredk that today we will mislynch (or we could correcly lynch) someone else, and M4 will live again regardless of the "unvotes."

And there's a chance that m4 is some wierd scum power-role that if he lives another night, it could seriously hurt us.
I know it seems hard to believe me and I can’t prove what the mod said to me, but please, at least consider the possibility I’m telling the truth. Read back through my posts- all those emotional reactions are genuine. I’m hoping you can recognize the real thing.
Maybe.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #39) » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:15 pm

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I apologize for the lack of time I have had for all my mafiascum games lately.

real quick: M4 keeps doing weird things.
minineko is basically the mod’s gift to scum
, they had a licence to vote her without townie opposition because of her role.
Is this (bolded) a slip?
how do you know she's not a curse for scum? Her alignment is
still
not known. Except, maybe you know it?

Yes, m4, i'm attacking you for way more reasons than you're lying about your role. I don't understand how anyone sees you as town. Am I missing something here?
Even
if
you're telling the truth about your role*, its likely your role is given to scum. It would be far worse of a role for scum than for town. You still haven't explained your fishing for ssf to convert someone. You ignored the middle of post 415, still.

*you talked about the mod being bastardly by saving you.
What's more bastardly:

Saving you as town and having us mislynch the next day (doesn't hurt your own side too much, you would just be one townie)
Saving you as scum and having us lynch you the next day (hurts your side alot, each scum is important).
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Post Post #472 (isolation #40) » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:25 pm

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Fos: Killa, ssf

Don't hammer yourself, M4. We get more information from someone else hammering. Also, now is not a good time.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #41) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:06 pm

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prod: The Fonz
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Post Post #483 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:24 pm

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Updated the list of players:
1. Cass (can you post and vote?)
8. BridgesAndBaloons (can post and vote)
9. hasdfgas (sabotaged from posting and voting by the mod) and
in the cult

11. The Fonz (can't post or vote )
It's possible he's in the cult
, that's why I asked for a prod. If he is cult, then he will instantly be modkilled for not adhering to his PR.
12. killa seven (can only vote?)
14. xyzzy (can't post very constructively...)
18. somestrangeflea (can post, but votes recruit scum)
19. M4yhem (can post and vote) (claims to get deadline not voting players' votes.)
20. ZONEACE (
in the cult
)

I'm thinking that The Fonz definitely has to die today*. He's a really clear choice to be recruited as part of the cult (which is why I asked for a prod of him). Think about it, you can instantly increase the members of your cult by one, and he won't post to give himself away. (there's a clear reason for him to not post-- his previous PR) Anyway, if he isn't the cult leader (cult leader may not have the PR), he's probably been recruited, and if he posts without the cult PR we know that if he was recruited it failed, so he's probably mafia.
Does that make sense to anyone?

*If he's a cult member and isn't modkilled for breaking one of his PRs, then we might not have to lynch him. But I'm pretty sure he will have to be modkilled if he's in the cult after posting.

There's 9 players, and 2 or 3 (Fonz) are in the cult. Or, what if the cult-recruiter doesn't have the PR? The game could be over soon with a cult win.
Then again, we have to watch out for the mafia who potentially (but not probably) have us in LYLO

arg...
I just hope my ideas about Fonz are correct.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:30 pm

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EEBWOP:

12 killa seven can post but must vote in each post (in other words, he is deadly at LYLO)
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Post Post #487 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:26 pm

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I didn't get a different win condition from the town one I originated with when I was recruited
If that's true, you can help the town win (and thus you*) by telling us the cult-recruiter. We would then be able to focus on lynching the scum.

*Maybe you're scum, and your win condition didn't change because of that?
Interesting, if scum could get recruited, but their win condition wouldn't change.
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Post Post #500 (isolation #45) » Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:18 pm

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I have to be cautious with what I post today for reasons I cannot mention.
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Post Post #501 (isolation #46) » Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:48 pm

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M4yhem wrote:Cass, I'm still alive because there were six people voting and three not voting. Since Has's votes didn't count for anybody else, they probably didn't count if he default voted for me, which means Has had three votes and I had two default votes.
what about the two people who
were
voting for you? (Myself and Zoneface)
Even if hasdgfas's vote didn't count, the two other "unvote s" should have lynched you.

At this point, I'm pretty much convinced that you're scum. You didn't even come up with an excuse about the mod not having you die today.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #47) » Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:06 am

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I'm fine mass-claiming. Just remember anything I have said before. I don't know how much mass-claiming will help. In fact, based on something (I can't say much here) it may hurt. Should I wait for an order, or should I just go?

Also,
m4 on post 194 wrote: I'm none of the above. Anyone not voting is voting for me.

I win with the town.
somestrangeflea onp ost 206 wrote:
strife220 wrote:Any, votes FOR you also count as regular votes.
So votes on you = # of people voting you + # of people not voting you?
What? If the total votes on M4yhem is # of people voting him + # of people not voting him then he has
all the votes
.

From what I gather,
the number of votes on M4yhem is # of people voting him + # of people not voting whatsoever, but only at deadline
.
M4 NEVER CORRECTED THESE (bolded)

also,
strife220 on 198 wrote:Found it on my own:
Seol wrote:You are
None of the Above
.

You have no night abilities. Should the game reach deadline, all players who are not voting will have their votes counted against you. You win with the town.
This backs up the idea that his votes really is "# of people voting him + # of people not voting whatsoever, but only at deadline"

I'm almost sure enough to vote. Seriously. I can't believe we bought that the mod saved him. I mean, this isn't bastard mod mafia. It's worst roles mafia. I think Kscope's just modding a normal game of mafia with just really bad roles.

Can anyone here name
one
bastard-mod move kscope has made? Why would he only interfere just with m4's role?
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Post Post #513 (isolation #48) » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:53 pm

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posting to say I am sick right now and really can't make coherent posts now. hopefully I'll be fine Wednessday. If these game has a deadline, I will give a priority to resolving stuff in that game.
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Post Post #514 (isolation #49) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:20 pm

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Message to all my games: Today I felt a little better (though still sick), and when I returned to school I was/am swamped with homework. I've been trying to treat these games like commitments, and I'm really sorry, but I'll try to post as soon as possible. I see my self having time Sunday.

Message specific to this game: another game I'm in has a deadline for Saturay, so if I have anytime I need to devote to that. RIght now I don't have anytime, like I barely have any time to make this post. Oh, and I guess I need to claim. I totally forgot about that.

remember what I said before when you read this:
Claim: xyzzy
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Post Post #515 (isolation #50) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:21 pm

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claim: estel
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Post Post #516 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:22 pm

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claim: fly on the wall
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Post Post #518 (isolation #52) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:58 pm

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M4yhem wrote: And yes, I have some qualms. If you vote me, the town will lose. I might get converted, if you're not a lying scumbag, but that won't feel much like a victory.
Another suspcious point, if I were you, and I was town, I would be
begging
him to vote for me so I could instantly win.
You "have some qualms" probably because you're scum and the vote wouldn't help you.
Even if you're 100% sure I'm scum, can you wait a little, please? Cass and B and B haven't claimed their roles, and Xzzy hasn't said very much at all. Not to mention that it's been days since there was any kind of discussion about anyone but me. That's not good for the town.
This is true, but here it kind of looks like you tryign to deflect attention away, and hoping that our claims will hurt us.

M4 wrote:
BridgesAndBaloons wrote:M4 NEVER CORRECTED THESE (bolded)

I didn't notice them.
are.
you.
fucking.
kidding.
me.

That has got to be the worst, lamest, most contrived excuse I have ever seen in this game of mafia.

I'm nearly about to vote for you. I'm like, two inches away.

BridgesAndBaloons wrote:
strife220 on 198 wrote:Found it on my own:
Seol wrote:You are
None of the Above
.

You have no night abilities. Should the game reach deadline, all players who are not voting will have their votes counted against you. You win with the town.
This backs up the idea that his votes really is "# of people voting him + # of people not voting whatsoever, but only at deadline"
No it doesn't. It says votes will be counted against me- it doesn't say they will be added to those already cast.
Uh... it actually says the two votes are a sum. this + this. It says they will be added together. How are you even arguing this?
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BridgesAndBaloons wrote:I can't believe we bought that the mod saved him.
Nobody bought that. You were pushing to kill me yesterday, remember? And the day before that. You have a serious case of tunnel vision.
except, tunnel-vission can be correct.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #53) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:59 pm

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somestrangeflea wrote:
M4yhem wrote:Fonz's role, Has's role, the post-restricted cult- you telling me those aren't bastardly?
M4yhem wrote:Don't forget- a mislynch doesn't just hurt me, it potentially hurts the whole town. That's pretty bastardly, to me.
This is not "Bastard Mod", this is "Worst Role Ideas". The game isn't meant to be evil, only the roles are. For what you are saying to be true, KScope has to be screwing around with the game as a whole.
QFT.
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Post Post #520 (isolation #54) » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:01 pm

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xyzzy wrote:I'm intentionally neglecting this game because you're all a bunch of douchebags who deserve to lose if you don't do everything I say.

That's all I have to say.
I think xyzzy is independent aligned. It jsut seems like the type of role it would be with that PR. Unless he's faking a PR.
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Post Post #521 (isolation #55) » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:07 pm

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omg

Mass-prod
please.

You guys realize that if m4 is scum, we have to
actually vote him out
.

At this point, I don't see any other better candidate to vote for. This whole town has been lurking far too much and It's just pissing me off.

For
fake claiming
fishing for ssf to convert someone (p.s. this pretty much confirms ssf)
and other stuff,

Vote: M4yhem


oh, in case you guys didn't read before I'm going to
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Post Post #522 (isolation #56) » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:19 pm

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either xyzzy or cass is probably m4's partner. I'm not sure which one.

Cass acted scummy because he was fishing for lynching the cult leader. We should have (and I guess we did) just let scum take care of the cult. If we were to lynch the cult-recruiter, then scum wouldn't have another NK to kill a townie or something. That's why the following posts are scummy:
That is an interesting find. Makes me think we should vote Cow, if he's indeed the cult leader, we can leve the other cultists alone when he's dead. And he's also one of those we can't afford to keep alive until endgame.
There, I quoted him.

@BaB: I agree we should kill the cult recruiter. However, there is no evidence that Fonz is in the cult, and he didn't have the cult post restriction when the game started.

Can anyone remember is Has did? If he did, his role would actually help him escape notice. Zoneace got the restriction later, right?

What if the recruiter does not share the restriction? Maybe M4yhem is the recruiter, he doesn't want cult dead, and he lied before.
That would make me think Forbiddan was the recruiter. Except for the inconsistency of the post restriction... meh, I'm out of ideas. Deadline is today, so I'll:

Vote: Hasdgfas I think that's three, so that's enough for a deadline lynch. If M4yhem is lying that is. If not, I'm sorry M4yhem, but there's not much more I can do.


some connection with m4:
Well, I'm sure the mod is enjoying this game Laughing

M4yhem, I can see you as scum, and I can see SSF as scum too. But I don't think you're buddies. Your claims (if they are both lies) work against eachother. SSF, by not voting, would be effecitvely voting for you. Which would make your claim harder to keep up in the long run. I suppose you could still be an SK, but there is no evidence of one in the game.
He admits to seeing m4 as scum, but then makes sure to nullify this by talking about SSF being scum and focusing on SSF more in this post. Seems like some sort of safe distancing to me.
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Post Post #523 (isolation #57) » Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:25 pm

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xyzzy hasn't made any posts really that mean anything. I can see any scumminess or connection with m4.

However, his whole PR could be fake...
I really don't know. the optimist in me is inclined to say m4 and cass are the scum-pair, with xyzzy some sort of wierd survival? role, but I'm really not sure of myself.

I'm pretty sure that M4 is scum, though. I now realize that probably scum were afraid of NKing me because I was looking at m4 all game, and that it would look to suspicious to nk me?
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Post Post #533 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:18 pm

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I was scum.
I was counter-claim proof, meaning that if I claimed something and someone counter-claimed me, they would be inexplicably modkilled. Not really too useful in this game, since I had no idea what roles were in the game.

Minnineko was the mod's enemy, and she was indeed scum. IF only she hadn't lurked I think she could have lived for a while.

Skitzer was scum, and he had to mention his scum-partner's names in every post. I don't know why the hell he named me as a mason with FlameAxe, and that really pissed me off. If town had bothered to look at his name (stupid gossipy goon or something like that), then it would have been terrible for us.

Cass/FlameAxe was the third person. I forgot what their role was.
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Post Post #534 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:20 pm

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Anybody suspect Cass or I? Any possible improvements I could have made in my play?
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