SSW III: Game over

[Jebus]

Confirmed to replace Empking.

I'ma read up a little bit now...

[Jebus]

'kay, back from reading.

My suspicion, agreeing with Cass, goes to Lord Gurgi. Though I'm also suspicious of Cass.

Post 127 is where Cass stands out to me.
And Lord Gurgi jumping a bandwagon (post 128) does as well, though that's coupled with a few other things (which I'm too lazy to go back and find the posts that I should have marked, maybe I will in a little bit >.<).

I'm not quite sure whether that's enough for me to vote on it, however.

[Jebus]

Thanks to the handy-dandy 'find user's post' button, here are some things I'd like to say:

So, upon my checking. I found something interesting:

Septia: Not-voting at the end of D1, was on the Wall-E wagon.

Septia's first post was #174, he came in just in the nick of time to avoid being replaced. That was one of the last posts in day 1, I believe.

Well I stand by my vote of Wall-E guy was as scummy as heck.

Suspicious of someone because they were on the Wall-E wagon, when you yourself said that Wall-E was suspicious as heck? Wha?

I am suspicious of people who end the day not voting for anyone s ...

Why? You may have somewhat of a point, but people normally hold off votes because they aren't sure who to vote rather than trying to avoid being suspicious for dropping the hammer or similar :/

I'm against lynching Wall-E even if she is confused. There are other people who look scummy and are being ignored. Porkens makes sense even if it is WIFOM

Why take the WIFOM chance of voting Porkens if you think Wall-E is scummy as heck?


Inconsistencies, I guess :S

Vote: Lord Gurgi

Prove I'm wrong, and I'll change it.

[Jebus]

Why would Farside's post be in your 'find user's posts' thingy? O_o

[Jebus]

Just a question - do we need to have half the people vote for someone to have majority, or do we need a majority of votes to be on the person for a lynch? (eg, 5 people, two vote for player a, the other three vote for b, c, and d, so a gets lynched)

@Spyrex, I wouldn't mind having raider dead, whether or not he's scum, he reminds me of a troll playing mafia >.<

[Jebus]

I'm not sure what to make of this at all. I'm inclining to vote for Raider, thanks to the omgus (wow, I just figured out what this meant) factor, though I'll stick with Gurgi.

Anyone wanna answer my question on majority, by the way?

[Jebus]

Thanks porky

[Jebus]

@ 1) It's a common scheme to go after fellow mafia-mates to destroy visable connection.

And though this may be somewhat hypocritical, I'd be willing to go with a conditional; donkeyz is mafia if Porky is town.

I'm also leaning towards Cass, some things about him/her don't make much sense to me :/

[Jebus]

I'll agree with the claim as well.

@ the chainsaw defense thingy: again, troll playing a mafia game



Since everyone seems to be making a suspicion list, I'll make mine.

Dead-set town:
None

Leaning town:
Spyrex

Leaning mafia:
Gurgi
Cass

Dead-set mafia:
None

Omgus:
Raider

[Jebus]

I'm getting a trollish vibe from you, (though that's probably somewhat irrelevant to this game).

And explain your second sentence please? >.<

@cerebus, I'll claim, if you wish. Tell me when, I guess?

[Jebus]

An omgus in my eyes doesn't mean an auto-vote, it means that I wouldn't mind if you were dead, scum or not.

[Jebus]

I'm ready to roleclaim when you are.

My list, however, goes in a different order than cerebus.

Lord Gurgi
Cass
donkeyz
farside
Septia
Porkens
raider

@cerebus: run-on sentences, the avatar, and him not making sense >.<

[Jebus]

CoheedCambria09

(

Werewolf of the black back clan

a.k.a. mafia)

Lynched D3

Just a thought, that it doesn't seem anyone's noticed yet... Black back clan = cult/second mafia?

That'd mean there's one or two left for humans and this cult

[Jebus]

Meh, why wasn't it quoted? Ah, well

[Jebus]

Point of claiming: there will be inconsistencies for you to jump on.

[Jebus]

Do me a favor, tell me why you want to lynch SpyreX?

[Jebus]

I'm thinking you're worthy of a vote now -.-

Vote: donkeyz

EXPLAIN your votes, please?

[Jebus]

I didn't include two categories, the borderline, and the ones I was just completely confused about. You were in the first one, though you just pushed yourself to the leaning mafia.

Also, until now, I've yet to really read up on your posts >.<

[Jebus]

By now, I think it's safe to assume that both Porkens and SpyreX were at one point, and likely still are, townie. (other possibility is they were cult-recruited :/)

Here's my claim, anyway.

I'm a wolven hero whose taken it upon myself to rid the town of scum, aka a vig/jack-of-all-trades. In my role, it said specifically that I notice, including humans, there is another rival wolf clan circling the area. Clan = cult, I'm guessing.

I've got limited everything, including two vig kills, a roleblock, a rolecop, a tracker, and two nexus. None have been used thus far, thanks to my missing out on the last night phase, and Empking being conservative.

So humans or the black-back clan (as the most recent nk has shown) are the regular mafia and the other is a cult. There's also the possibility that their night-kill abilities switch off.

Donkey seems to have claimed a tracker, though we've already had a tracker, Wall-E, killed in this game. I might partially believe it, since this is a wolf mafia game, but I've still got the notion he's scum.

Porkens, I'd give the green light on lynching donkeyz.

[Jebus]

We're two votes from lynching donkeyz.

We should probably wait to see what Cass says, though I could always rolecop him/her tonight.

@ LG accusation - I wouldn't doubt it too much :/
@ Septia accusation - I'm a little scared to call his bluff (or truth as it may be), I may end up using my rolecop/tracker on him/her.

I'm also on the fence about Raider and Cerebus.
Cass's roleclaim could be vital, and after (s)he claims, I'll explain.

In the meantime, however, I'm staying on donkeyz.

[Jebus]

I assumed you claimed a tracker or similar because you said you had tracked people, and didn't hint at any other abilities.

Jebus you are such a friggin liar!

Either there is two jack of all trades or what.

Jebus is obviously lying about his abilities. I just don't understand it.

Funny, I could say the same about you. Rolecop me, if you don't believe my claim. Or if you can't and are scum, try to kill me.

I'm also almost in agreement about the idea of two jack-of-trades thing, though it doesn't make much sense

[Jebus]

I did miss yesterday's night action, by like two hours. I also thought there was a 24-hour night period or similar, so that didn't help >.<

Empking decided to be conservative, and didn't use anything.

And why would my claim become more dubious if Raider is scum? I've only said I don't like his appearance, something irrelevant to this game

[Jebus]

@Cass - A nexus means that if I am targeted, the effect bounces off to someone else (chosen by the mod at random).

[Jebus]

My role name is Wolven Hero. I believe I said it in my claim post, but if not, oh well

@Cass - Just because I seem powerful is no reason to lynch me.


Donkeyz has two votes up there, by the way. One for himself, and one for me

[Jebus]

I just sent in my tracking choice.

I'll go back and check this, but didn't you say you only had one tracking choice, which you already used?

[Jebus]

1st) Why must you keep repeating that you sent in your tracking action?
2nd) What's the difference between watching and tracking?

[Jebus]

He did, about a minute ago.

[Jebus]

Why not septia?

Septia's claim wasn't quite a power role, but it's like lynching a power role. If (s)he dies, the maf get two kills, instead of one.

[Jebus]

I'm checking Jebus (i just saying) I want Donkey to track Jebus and if Jebus is telling the truth about JOAT I want her to watch me to see if anyone kills me.

I have a track, not a watch, so according to donkeyz, I wouldn't see who killed you, only where you went. None of my abilities can allow me to see who killed you.

Again, I have:
3 vig kills
1 track
1 rolecop
2 nexus

[Jebus]

I'm quite sure I said three, but if I did say two, that was a typo. It is, in fact, three (3).

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch before deadline)
(3) donkeyz12212 –SpyreX, Jebus, Lord Gurgi
(2) Septia – farside22, donkeyz12212
(1) Jebus – Cass
(1) Cass – Porkens

Not voting:

cerebus3, raider8169, Septia

Deadline:

Saturday 9 August 2:00 PM (GMT -5 according to forum clock)

[Jebus]

cerebus3 wrote:
Why not septia?

Septia's claim wasn't quite a power role, but it's like lynching a power role. If (s)he dies, the maf get two kills, instead of one.

How interesting that you explain Septia's role for her. How come you know the mechanism behind it so well?

Since I play with Princesses in mafia games often. You skip the next day phase. Lynching a princess is like offering the mafia that lynch, plus two more free kills. I don't know for sure that the mechanism behind this role is exactly the same, but I'd be willing to bet it is.

2nd) What's the difference between watching and tracking?

You can track yourself... and you don't know what it does? Odd. I'd think you would have asked the mod by now, or looked at the wiki, or, you know, read the game...

I know what tracking does, I just didn't know if there was a difference between that and watching. I don't have a watch, so that confusion didn't come up until just then -.-'''

My role name is Wolven Hero

Huh, I'd expect it to be

Werewolf

hero. Actually, I expect it to be

Human

hero...

Wolven and Werewolf are both wolf, its possible that could just be one of Joohono's synonyms, but it

does

say "Wolven"

I'm also on the fence about Raider and Cerebus.
Cass's roleclaim could be vital, and after (s)he claims, I'll explain.

I don't think you ever did?

That's because it proved not to be, and frankly, I forget now why it would have >.<

His original claim:

I'm a wolven hero whose taken it upon myself to rid the town of scum, aka a vig/jack-of-all-trades. In my role, it said specifically that I notice, including humans, there is another rival wolf clan circling the area. Clan = cult, I'm guessing.
So humans or the black-back clan (as the most recent nk has shown) are the regular mafia and the other is a cult. There's also the possibility that their night-kill abilities switch off.

He's the only one who had something about rival wolves in his role pm. The he starts specualting about cult. Something feels wrong about this whole post, but I can't quite put my finger on it. i also dislike how he isn't convinced Donkey is scum, yet supports his lynch. Pushes it, even. This was still early in the day.

I didn't think it relevant until that point, since the previous nk caused confusion. If I'd said it before, it would have been a mess :s

@ the bit about donkeyz: I'm now much more convinced that donkeyz is scum than I was at the beginning of the day, and since then I've gone back and read his posts at least twice. :/

[Jebus]

As for today's lynch, I'm not quite sure. Raider sounds good, for a little more than my personal dislike, but I'm still pretty much convinced donkeyz is the lynch for today.

Gah, I'm too confused >.<

[Jebus]

Here's the claimlist.

Cass

claims cub/mason.

Spyrex

&

Gurgi

claim she-wolf.

Porkens

&

Cerebus

claim townie.

Septia

claims princess.

Jebus

claims wolven hero (JOAT).

Donkeyz

claims Alpha-wolf (JOAT).

Raider

claims a-w protector.

farside

claims cop.

-If what's been said about she-wolves being one-way lovers who commit suicide when their cub dies, then the multiple she-wolf idea can be justified, assuming Gurgi or Spyrex suicides today.
-As said, flavour for the princess role has not been confirmed.
-Me and donkeyz both claim similar JOAT roles.

Scenario 1: We lynch donkeyz.
-If donkeyz is scum, we may have Cass and Raider as scum, as well.
-If donkeyz is townie, I most likely die.

Scenario 2: We lynch Septia.
-If septia is a princess, townies lose a day phase, and will probably need a scum-kill to win.
-If septia = scum, I'm not sure where we go from there.

Scenario 3: We lynch Raider.
-If Raider is scum, we try donkeyz.
-If Raider is town, I most likely die.


I think we should probably play it safe and go for a non-power lynch. For night actions, go with a sort of circle-type thing.

farside investigates me.
I rolecop donkeyz, and track raider.
Donkeyz tracks farside.

Sound good?

[Jebus]

I've got a lot to say, seeing as I missed about five pages of stuff aimed at me >.<

I still want jebus to tell us more about his flavor. He also fo the most part ignored my case on him. He refuses to call raider and Donkey liars, yet i can't see both roles (him & Donkey) being town. All those leaning to Donkey being honest, do think it's possible we have an Alpha

and

a Hero? Do you not see the scumtells I found on Jebus?

I've never refused to call them liars. I may not have said it directly until now, but I'm almost certain donkeyz is either puffing up his real role, or is scum. Raider, on the other hand, is just going along with you.
As for my flavour, I can't really say much more than <I'm a Wolven Hero who's taken it upon themself to rid the village of scum. In addition to the humans, I also notice a rival wolf clan> without directly quoting my role pm.

Notice that jeebus says he can do more than one thing a night.

I have only one limit, and that is the vig kills: only one per night.

So.. you get two night actions? I dont remember this being brought up before.

I never specified my limits.

Also, Don't worry about dying if your a nexus right?

I don't have to worry about night kills, anyway.

@jebus: Have you ever played as a JOAT-type role before?

Plenty of times, both as mafia, townie, and third party.

At best, Jebus is a vig who I cannot trust. Yes, I'd prefer to lynch a power role actually, he's going to hurt us bad tonight if we leave him alive. His results tomorrow will only cause a boatload of wifom. Even if he is town, a very scummy vig running around in town will not allow me to sleep easy...

I'm still a townie vig nonetheless. It's a huge drawback to kill the only townie who can kill outside of a lynch. Possibly a fatal one for the town, if there are two scum groups out there.

Also we dont know if the alpha BP vest has been used.

It wouldn't matter. As you've said yourself, the Alpha Protector (your claim) is a bodyguard, so if donkeyz is targeted, assuming your claims are correct, you would die instead. He's safe through two NK's.

unvote: donkeyz

vote: raider

Much safer than a possible power role, anyway :/
And excuse me if I didn't remember your claim correctly, my bad.

If Septia is telling the truth, and we lynch him, we will lose.

Not too bad a reason to claim princess :/

Here's my problem, if all our current theories are true, we have two scum groups, a princess, two lovestruck roles, that is SOME BASTARD MODDERY right there.

One of them is probably not real. I'm leaning to there being no humans, and just a second werewolf group. I also think that the princess isn't real, though I'd better rolecop to be safe :/

This brings up a point I didnt look at before. The one difference I see is that scum will target the power roles. We know that other people have possible night kills if they choose to use them how does that fit in? However Jebus claimed limited Night kills so if she uses one now and is tracked she can always say that what everyone already knows and then get away will taking out town. It makes sense to not lynch Septia so I will Unvote, Vote Jebus

Why help the scum by killing me, a power role? You'll know my kills, they're flavoured as Silver Arrow, not anything else.

Hold on a second, I can't help that notice that Septia has not been here for the formation, nor the dissolution of the wagon. That's lurking in my book.

His/her first post was # 173, and (s)he's posted here a whole five times -.-

[Jebus]

My guess is Septia is scum, Raider is scum, donkeyz is scum, and Cass is scum. A total of four scum.

[Jebus]

I think that's hammer

Cass, Cerebus, Spyrex, Farside, donkeyz12212, Porkens - Jebus.

Now i'm anxious to see results lol.

Umm... oshi*, I hope you're wrong >.<

[Jebus]

Why didn't Jebus use any of his night actions? >>

Empking tried to be conservative, and I missed the first one, only to be lynched for the second one >.<

I was planning on killing Septia, and if Septia was the princess, raider would've been next.

They killed me before I could respond. Meh :S

[Jebus]

What WAS Jebus going to do that night? I'd love to see his thought process as that day went on.

If lynch = donkeyz
>Roleblock farside
>Maul septia (and if septia = princess, silver-arrow Gurgi)
>Rolecop Raider

If lynch = Septia
>Maul donkeyz (and if septia = princess, silver arrow Raider)
>Roleblock farside
>track farside

If lynch = Cass
>Maul donkeyz
>Roleblock farside
>Track farside

If lynch = Cerebus
>Maul donkeyz
>Roleblock farside

If lynch = Porkens
>Maul septia (if septia = princess, silver arrow donkeyz)
>Roleblock farside
>track Spyrex

If lynch = SpyreX
>Maul septia (if septia = princess, silver arrow donkeyz)
>Roleblock farside
>Rolecop Cass

If lynch = farside
>Maul septia (if septia = princess, silver arrow donkeyz)
>Rolecop Raider

If lynch = Gurgi
>Maul Septia (if septia = princess, silver arrow donkeyz)
>Roleblock farside
>Rolecop Raider

If lynch = Raider
>Maul Septia (if septia = princess, silver arrow donkeyz)
>Roleblock farside
>Rolecop Gurgi


That was the PM I sent for night actions.

[Jebus]

It may have been a good call initially, but it confused me why there was a bp vest

and

a protector.

[Jebus]

pre-/in for the next one as well.

I had fun