Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over
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Turkey iso mostly empty. Easy to verify, just 22 posts there. Gives zero shits he's being wagoned-
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Did a couple things that were midlly towny but nothing else-
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I think Gobbles' ISO is a scumtell for him! His posts are a lot more meaningful as town.In post 2957, Tipsy wrote:so gobble is apathy wagoned?-
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I've been town with him twice to my recollection and townread him both times. I've been town against him and caught him once. I've been scum with him and he played pretty much like this.
Ok don't see it as a meta argument - his posts are bad, and that's scummy-
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@Dave: Gob was actually scum the entire time in SIR, Mastina caught him pretty quick I asked him to start behaving erratically to get read as infected, the first few days there was enough noise to make his lack of posting less noticeable-
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You wouldn't need to wait much!In post 2984, maxwell wrote:Doing ISO reads and I want to die already.-
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link?In post 2994, Pink Ball wrote:By the way wanted to add that my whole point about Firebringer being town is now out of the way since he recently lost as scum in another game and practically did the same thing he was doing here towards me, so yeah-
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my scum plan is working, tee heeIn post 2998, maxwell wrote:he posts so fucking much and I had to just skim it.-
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Very interesting choice of NK, a Noble people were scumreading over a CO...-
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Firebringer/Aristophanes weren't in the Capital. Fire moved to someone's castle.
Whoever's castle he moved into is extremely likely to be scum, as otherwise scum don't know which castle he's in and would have to take a guess - which is suboptimal compared to a CO kill.
The Noble who was housing Firebringer should claim.-
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Yes! We get informed every week. I wasn't housing Fire.-
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I know you didn't claim the kill. The existence of that post makes it harder to solve, hence "uhh"-
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Dave, if you were scum, can you detail what your mechanically optimum NK would be (regardless of dayplay)?-
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Yes, but both PB and Dave denying would mean guaranteed scum in Nobles and one of them guaranteed to me.In post 3080, Tipsy wrote:davesaz admitted firebringer was in his castle didnt he?
Either Dave did the assassinate or someone spotted the crumb, which makes this difficult.-
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This is why I was treating it as a scumclaim, but since Dave had actually softed it in a way before, it's possible someone noticed it.In post 3076, Nero Cain wrote:So its just the noble being told they are @ castle X or is there another way?
Also, this is why people should be traveling every day-
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Jailing PBs initially was an aggressive action that could net COs a BP-
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I think I did clarify this in thread. They happen at the same time, scum is supposed to guess where the travel resolves to, not where they are.In post 3094, Something_Smart wrote:I don't see this answer anywhere. I'm ruling that the kill happens first.-
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I doubt it :$ feels like none of us have the motivation. Also I realized a Coup doesn't help us either...? because whoever gets the new powers has to stay in Capital-
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@NeroIn post 622, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Also: newly appointed COs (nobles and Power Brokers) lose their travel ability. They must remain in the capital to work in the government.
Pink Ball flattery tell-
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Relax, I was kidding I should've detailed a bit more, I just wrote that when I woke up-
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I'm conflicted about Dave; it doesn't seem like a NK he would make when he could take a shot at public killing and get away with it, and I very strongly townread Shireen.
I'll prob just sheep Nero Cain.-
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Oh we're in worst-case LyLo. Eeks! Ideally I'd want to execute the Votato slot-
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Ooooh kay
VOTE: Tipsy
He started a neighborhood with me right after replacing in. I lied to him saying I detected he's part of another PT too, and asked him to confirm or deny. Instead of directly denying it, Tipsy surfed the OP rules and was wondering how I had such an ability that's not present in the OP. After I asked him to explicitly deny, he then figured I might be reaction testing him.
I think it's somewhat scummy to react by looking at whether such a detection is possible in the rules over just saying "No" immediately. From a scum PoV I could have been talking about his scum PT as the one I detected so he'd have to think of some explanation or at least verify first if it was possible.
The lack of a CO NK is also fishy! I think this could actually meanbothCOs are scum? If it were only one, they could just NK the other knowing they're going to survive this week. If both were outside they'd expect us not to execute a CO today, which is bad for them, so it's better to execute a CO always? Especially with Firebringer being a scumread slot anyway.
It was oversight that I didn't see travel is forbidden after a Coup, which makes a Coup technically worthless.
Pink Ball please don't feel shut down when I make pushes, you know I'm the type to push minor things. I should've clarified that particular "flattery tell" thing was a joke, but to be honest I'm unable to recognize town!you. I only recollect playing against scum!you multiple times (apart from our hydra), so probably that's understandable?-
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The overall state of the thread isn't reflective of how well scum are playing, though. They could be vigilant and competent and just avoid posting too much in the main thread. I do think tipsy is a competent player and would've picked up on it.
When I read that I assumed Dave meant voting Fire .>. but I think interpreting it correctly isn't a stretch at all.-
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>It was softed, and I don't think it was such a vague soft that competent scum wouldn't pick up onIn post 3135, Tipsy wrote:^ p much that. anyone not voting davesaz should have to explajn why they dont think the ari kill is incriminating to th guy who knew where he was.
>Dave can actually get away with publicly killing Ari, if anything he'd know the insider knowledge he has makes it a risky kill
>It's a pretty bad NK compared to a CO?-
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Okay; if both scum are outside the COs, i.e. 2/6, and up till last week everyone was on board with a coup after Week 5, can anyone highlight how a kill outside COs on a generally scumread slot is beneficial?-
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Exactly - Dave was already toying with the idea. It's less suspicious to do it publicly in the day lolIn post 3141, Pink Ball wrote:Why would dave and their partner kill Ari via nightkill instead of killing him during the day?-
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You asked, I quoted, why ask again?In post 3154, Nero Cain wrote:
Where does it say this?In post 3132, Auro wrote:It was oversight that I didn't see travel is forbidden after a Coup, which makes a Coup technically worthless.-
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In post 3121, Nero Cain wrote:
Where are you getting this?In post 3108, Auro wrote:Also I realized a Coup doesn't help us either...? because whoever gets the new powers has to stay in CapitalIn post 3124, Auro wrote:
@NeroIn post 622, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Also: newly appointed COs (nobles and Power Brokers) lose their travel ability. They must remain in the capital to work in the government.
Pink Ball flattery tell
Hmm, Nero acting dumb == scum?In post 3154, Nero Cain wrote:
Where does it say this?In post 3132, Auro wrote:It was oversight that I didn't see travel is forbidden after a Coup, which makes a Coup technically worthless.-
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Um, and who is this person...? In a neighborhood?In post 3144, davesaz wrote:Someone specifically wanted me to confirm the soft. I'd be suspicious of that.-
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It means Fire fast traveled to Dave's castle.In post 3160, Nero Cain wrote:(would this mean that Ari wasn't supposed to die last night? unless he was unacompied?)-
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brilliant case, voting "history" from early d1-
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(fwiw, I'm not actually scumreading Nero, I just find omgus'ing him funny lol)-
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lul dude if you think it's tipsy-Auro, then help me bus my partner-
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We're in worst-case LyLo right now. If we execute and game continues with a NK we know that one of our executions so far is scum. Besides, you can get targeted for the kill the same phase you receive the Coup power.-
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I feel like Dave's town thoughIn post 3180, Porkens wrote:Auro move your vote to Dave please-
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I've been pointing out how it doesn't -really- make sense for Dave to do that kill for a while, why is my position surprising?-
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I was gonna vote Dave, I thought we had more time left, wanted to end the game-
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Guys: {Maxwell, Davesaz, Pink Ball} how many scum could be in there?-
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It was supposed to be in parallel. But given Something_Smart's rule interpretation it means they could've killed Arya's slot even if he kidnapped her, no?-
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Hey wait a minute, it was Maxwell who replaced her. So Nero, you didn't submit a jailkeep action?-
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Not kidnapping COs leaves them open to getting NK'd, and a dead CO can't investigate at all.In post 3247, Tipsy wrote:did u not realize kidnapping the CO's would stop us from getting results? :\-
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Porkens, reads on everyone?In post 3202, Something_Smart wrote:Tipsy, maxwell, Porkens, davesaz, Pink Ball, Auro, Nero Cain
Pisskop didn't even travel to anyone's castle >.>-
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Nero, why did you lie about accepting the plan?In post 3246, Auro wrote:Hey wait a minute, it was Maxwell who replaced her. So Nero, you didn't submit a jailkeep action?-
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Actually
I think Coup and then maybe execute Maxwell/Tipsy-
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Not you. I'm guessing Maxwell was scum who hammered along with PB-
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He did it immediately after replacing in, I don't think the multitasking assumption is far fetched at all though. He didn't realize he couldn't do an invest until he actually tried to.In post 3273, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, maybe I got my weeks mixed up but he's still super fucking scummy for using his ability to make a pt instead of investigate a death. If I tilt my head just right I can kinda see where someone that doesn't get this game goes "special actions are listed under 2nd in command actions, that must mean I can use 2 actions this week!" What he claimed in our PT was that he needed to be "better informed" but there were only two players that he could investigate. I mean it just all looks like evasion.
So you're saying you jailed Tipsy in parallel? Where to?-
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