Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over

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VOTE: auro
That first post was pure fluff

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Nobles townbloc? Let's move our armies to the Capital and take thr Court Official's powers!

as a noble. I hate other nobles.

All nobles must die. Not me though.

I will be fair and just ruler to all those who follow me.

hi, big bro. i know you well enough to see through your lies. i know you're scum. and no, that isnt a come-on. im your other (half) brother.

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r u saying ur a bastard?

all dwarves are bastards in their fathers' eyes

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HODOR

wrong

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Don't you dare. Just you try against my 20 good men.

you want me to get you pregnant?

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@ABR

is there a random distribution of scum across the three groups? or is it non-random (i.e. you determined how many scum will be in each group whether it be 1-1-1 or whatever)?

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A lion doesn’t concern himself with the opinions of a

sheep

donkey.

you're not a lion. you're just a redhead. i can tell the difference.

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Yes if he is an alt of RadiantCowbells!

I know who you are!

i know who you are!

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who am i

youre my daddy

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I could also lynch Shireen on policy. Apologies, Shireen, but unless you begin to contribute legitimate stances, I will always be fine with pl-ing you.

Yeah, like me! I have more substance than the season 8 plot.

Wait a minute...

that could be true and you could still have a significant amount of negative substance. lets not speak of that abomination again.

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the posts that are not shit are shit. to all of you who are not shitposting, either start shitposting or stop posting please. you are both distracting the rest of us who are trying to shitpost, and devolving the gamestate. its not good. you are not solving.

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so this is what porkens town game looks like, eh?

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votato giving out reads like this makes me suspect him.
also i just realized that horn is fake.

is this the game i finally get to see scum!firebringer? or do you just know how turned on i get when you scumread me?

I think it's eye strain. The setup is really exciting, but I'm still not crystalizing the actions in my mind. IF anyone can dumb it down for me it'll earn a few town points and maybe, you know,

favors

what kind of favors? color me interested

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so this is what porkens town game looks like, eh?

ah man...I just finished a scum game with Votato, and this post gives me, and excuse my sheep, baaaaaaaad vibes.

interesting. elaborate?

VOTE: votato

speaking of sheep...

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hot. ok ill scumread you, too.

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and scum have no factional kill? its a nightless game, right?

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aww, dying would make me mildly sad

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firebringer i dont want to live in your scum republic. I want to live in my own scum republic

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LQ - I’m gonna need ya to fully understand this game and explain to me what it is you think town should do.

Then I’ll tell you the actual way because by you explaining it I’ll immediately want to devil’s advocate which’ll force me into this

Not until claims. If I knew what everyone was, then I could start.

LQ, for once you should really read the setup info

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arent we better off lynching flavor leaf? after a comprehensive study (n=1) of flavor leaf's games, flavor leaf always rolls scum. we should lynch FL. QED.

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when do actions announced in twilight resolve?

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+ we already know the roles

Nobles are: Firebringer, Flavor Leaf, BBmolla, Auro, Shireen Baratheon
Power Brokers are: Rubicon, momo, Elena Fisher, Porkens
Court Officials are: votato, Arya Stark, The Trollie, Ygritte, Kmd

So you could have just forgotten this was open or ????? maybe you just forgot but either way you should just step it up

why is his laziness AI? if anything the way you are trying to pretend that it is is scum-indicative WRT you

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Now why don't you give your reads, you hypocrite?

i mean, I've been pushing votato and ygrite as scum for awhile. True I've been on the lazy side but it's not like I've NOT given any reads. Even your insults don't make sense.

saying we are scum =/= giving reads. im still not sure why exactly you think im scum

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and everytime he has been Town he has tried to PL me.

this is a lie though.

Also, Nero might be Scum for tunneling because that's the latest Scum meta he has.

I'm gonna tunnel as both alignments and I'm not hard tunneling anyone so...

I'm gonna suggests that you generally do this thing.
then you contradict that by saying you arent doing it.
sounds like bullshit

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can someone take a moment to explain why im scum? that would be very helpful.

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I love playing with Nero, people get so angry at him lmao

Yup the drama with LQ was hilarious although I stopped reading now after a few pages

Let me be the guy who comes and calls an argument TvT. This was TvT.

Ygritte, I demand that you constantly post high quality shitposts.

What are everyone's thoughts on Elena?

What do people think of my mechanical thoughts - specifically that we refrain from killing, hide in random castles every day to thwart spy actions?

bad idea. scum nobles could just execute all the guests

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bad idea. scum nobles could just execute all the guests

We know which castle a guest died in. Automatically the Noble becomes highly suspect.

yeah but if you can trade one scum for say 4-5 guests, you do that in a heartbeat

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Fill in the blanks game:

If Ygritte is scummy for posting nothing but gimmick/fluff posting and sheeping (and the read thing)

Firebringer is ___ for posting ___?

Firebringer is scum for posting anything. FB is always a good scumread.

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Prodge, will catch up soon

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starting to catch up. probably wont finish today.

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Fill in the blanks game:

If Ygritte is scummy for posting nothing but gimmick/fluff posting and sheeping (and the read thing)

Firebringer is ___ for posting ___?

Firebringer is scum for posting anything. FB is always a good scumread.

I like this guy.

Not for town ofc. But I do like his personality.

Votato is legit my only real scumread right now. Votato. when u have time lets have a talk to really get a heart to heart so i can figure out if i am right.

im here now bb. i feel the same way you do though about this game

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I do not care about this game.

Why in the world do ppl ever sign up to play mafia and not care.

some games just wind up not being interesting for whatever reason. usually the gamestate is just boring, and its no individual player's fault. it will probably pick up.

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FB, if you could actually keep your meta consistent, that would be just swell.

a) why would that be helpful?
b) your meta is very inconsistent, so....

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Nero is dead Null to me. He started pushing me for bad reasons but eventually changed his vote, which I honestly wasn't expecting at all. Who has Nero pushed recently? If its like, IDK, Auro, then that's probably a bad look for Nero. Else, he pushed Porkens before. I was SRing Porkens for distracting me, but apparently that wasn't a real action, so I guess I would put Porkens in the same bucket as FB.

I think this is the worst paragraph I've ever read and I once read Twilight

FoS nero. no one who read twilight can be trusted

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Nero is dead Null to me. He started pushing me for bad reasons but eventually changed his vote, which I honestly wasn't expecting at all. Who has Nero pushed recently? If its like, IDK, Auro, then that's probably a bad look for Nero. Else, he pushed Porkens before. I was SRing Porkens for distracting me, but apparently that wasn't a real action, so I guess I would put Porkens in the same bucket as FB.

I think this is the worst paragraph I've ever read and I once read Twilight

Okay, maybe Nero is Scum... Hmm...

people who disagree with you are scum? youre a better player than that

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Nero is dead Null to me. He started pushing me for bad reasons but eventually changed his vote, which I honestly wasn't expecting at all. Who has Nero pushed recently? If its like, IDK, Auro, then that's probably a bad look for Nero. Else, he pushed Porkens before. I was SRing Porkens for distracting me, but apparently that wasn't a real action, so I guess I would put Porkens in the same bucket as FB.

I think this is the worst paragraph I've ever read and I once read Twilight

Okay, maybe Nero is Scum... Hmm...

people who disagree with you are scum? youre a better player than that

eh actually it was a bit of a personal dig so the scumread makes sense from town you. still though, thats a bad reason to scumread someone. townpoints to both of you

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@LQ he is masterminding the town using his scum buddies in the other two affinity groups to usurp the power of the council and the brokers. Once this is accomplished, the Kabal will engineer favorable conditions for scum victory.

If that’s not scum I don’t know what is.

One of the dumbest cases I've heard...

"Why is Auro scum"
"He is scum who will mastermind and win the game"

Porkens isn't even able to make up legit sounding reasons - his answer to why I am scum is simply that I am scum.

"Loss of town power" (in his next post) is also daft: by lynching people you invariably lose town power anyway. My plan is pseudo BP for Nobles/Power Brokers and discouragement of vigs.
Porkens wants to freely vig people.

Which plan kills town power faster? Vigging people freely or not vigging people?

Insulting your critics is a classic authoritarian move. Textbook really.

You want to take away our rights and form death panels, how anyone does not see right through you is mystifying.

i mean i didnt like auros take either but really dont like this post

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Only if the gigs shoot wrong. Scum are terrified of cigs and always want them to holster or get them on a leash.

after guns and roses IV im a bit traumatized by town having lots of vig power.

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Insulting your critics is a classic authoritarian move. Textbook really.

You want to take away our rights and form death panels, how anyone does not see right through you is mystifying.

Totally... Only an authoritarian can have opinions and scumreads. Textbook.

Now town majority is "death panel" lolwut? Are you saying that the normal lynching process is an evil death panel?

Uh huh, please go ahead explain how this democracy will work.

this isnt MUN

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Ygritte thought about it. “Can a freefolk be brave if she’s afraid?"

“That’s the only time she can be brave,” the donkey told her.

Arrest: votato

am i still under arrest btw? i have not been informed that i was arrested...

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The mod has informed me that I used the incorrect format, and not only that, votato doesn't even have a second. So:

Arrest: Nero Cain's 2nd

nevermind

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We have about a day left to lynch. What's the VC looking like? Aka let us get something cooking.

I don't mind lynching Flavor Leaf.

FL shouldn't be touched until Votato is dead imo.

interesting take. before this i hadnt seen you express a scum read on me

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We have about a day left to lynch. What's the VC looking like? Aka let us get something cooking.

I don't mind lynching Flavor Leaf.

FL shouldn't be touched until Votato is dead imo.

also what do i have to do with FL?

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also, and im not real real sure on how thing work yet but if I do an agressive action I can get a special ability so she's denying town more power.

Your aggressive action also denies town power.
The only real lurkers I see in this game are FL and Shireen, the former who will play with time, and the latter who I already townread to some extent anyway.

Ygritte is playing the game, and is not a lurker.

is ygritte playing the game though? ive just seen a bunch of low-quality shitposts

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people who disagree with you are scum? youre a better player than that

I don't think town can think this with a straight face.

which part? you dont think LQ's read on you wasnt pure OMGUS? or you think LQ is a bad player?

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im not talking about LQ @ all. I'm saying that I don't think that YOU think LQ is good or at least above OMGUS.

Also, when did you even play with him?

i have a number of completed games with quick/LQ. maybe 5? enough to make the claim that i did there.

made it to the top of page 42, will keep catching up later.

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Votato why are you trying now?

i signed up for this game and so even if day 1 was boring and im struggling to get a good grasp on the mechanics, i owe it to everyone to put in some effort. these posts are just comments as i go down the thread, ill post overall thoughts when i properly catch up. its like 30 pages though...

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this whole fire hasn't town told is really weird.

and yet normally you love it when people scumread you. you seem nervous

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this whole fire hasn't town told is really weird.

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There was a shift from pure nothing to game related tho am I wrong?

your right

this post really pings me hard

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you used your instead of you're

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Good luck finding me

are you in india, perchance?

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yeah it just doesnt feel like firebringer normally does. the post doesnt bring any fire.

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can you pick me up some coke. im out.

wouldn't really surprise me if we no lynched here and that might actually be ok?

like just nl till d4, coup, then kill all the CO's

this is a bad plan that pretty much guarantees a scum win

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Prodge, will catch up soon

this is a good post, clear town

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Ugh I just don’t believe in this lynch. Ughhhhhh

VOTE: unvote

hmmm dont care for this sequence. essentially guarantees a no-lynch if it werent already guaranteed

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VOTE: votato

good vote

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votato is usually a lot more present as Town.

im normally even a lot more present as scum tho

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There's one more breaking strategy. If everyone manages to unanimously townread a Noble, then town forces everyone to travel to the Noble's castle (and lynches anyone who doesn't) and when everyone's inside the Noble nukes them all, to a town win.

i support this

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Please forgive me for calling you by your given name, my queen.

im assuming this was directed at me since your post before that was a vote on me. its ok, but "your highness" or "her magesty" are preferred.

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votato why aren't u voting me when uve said ur suspicious of me and been hinting at scum read on me

if itll make u feel good i can vote but i wasnt gonna vote until i caught up

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Rubicon and I were bullshitting. I thought since no one read the mechanics anyway maybe some scumbutt would come claim it

i mean it was a pretty shitty gambit cuz it was kinda obvious. but at the same time, how were you and rubicon coordinating? tinglies.

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VOTE: firebringer ur welcome

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I feel like the scum are just lurking like crazy. Is that too easy?

either this game is very easy and we are about to blow it wide open or we are wayyyyyy off base and totally fucked i think. theres no middle ground here

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I

play Mafia exclusively through gambits and reaction tests.

reactions tests are still mostly lame. And even if yo do it then why does Rubicon join you? And

IF

this was just a reaction test it seems wierd you stopped it so early. Why not keep it going and let more than me or pork react to it?

yep

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fire are you scum>?

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btw im all caught up now

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MariaR is literally always scum for real how many times do you roll scum out of 10 games?

Constant sheep this game so far.

maria is arya?

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i don't townread auro at all. But i was kinda expecting firepup to be greatful to be a wagon so he could get out of a game he found boring

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i don't townread auro at all. But i was kinda expecting firepup to be greatful to be a wagon so he could get out of a game he found boring

That is exactly a votato!Town post.

you've never seen me play scum have you?

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Seeing your head on a pike would be pretty cute

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Nero just misread his green role PM as a red one

scum!auro being cheeky/TMI

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so who are the options for me to arrest?

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Kmd was the factional kill, very likely.

didnt we establish that its impossible for the factional kill to have done anything yet?

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as someone doing the mechanical legwork a dumbtell is not really a good look

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hmm i felt like porkens towntold at the start of the game, but everything since then has been so friggin scummy.

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not paying attention is different than dumbtelling. also i didnt do the mechanical legwork. but fair enough

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this playerlist is so shitposty all of a sudden. fantastic!

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idk the rulez tho

but you know who scum are right?

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who is available to be arrested here?

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Aw but then I wouldn’t be able to do either of my favorite things

eat and fart?

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who can i arrest?

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arrest firebringer's second

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VOTE: rubicon

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i still have no clue what Im supposed to do to optimize my wincon

same

[votato]

beyond not doing much, what have i done thats actually scummy? i wont fight this lynch much, but feel like its silly to lynch a court official and also silly to lynch me in particular. after 95 pages i still dont really know whats going on.

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VOTE: votato

OK let's do this.

oh a lynch target who wont resist that much? thats what i want!

how did the rubicon wagon fall apart?

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Lol wut

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the "fake" hammer. "oops"

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arrest porkens' second

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gobbles it wasnt fully auros fault that we no-lynched day 1

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im not dumbtelling. im just dumb

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idek

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Eh even if you think im scum may as well not lynch me yet. I'll be nkd soon

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i think we know what drove ABR away from the site. and i think we know that it has nothing to do with this particular game.

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pls abduct me someone

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VOTE: davesaz

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make sure we imprison both. if scum know that im available for killing tonight they might kill me despite preferring to leave me alive. then again maybe not. youve already stated that you are gonna lynch me 100%. so eh.

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i dunno, i feel like we are super boned here. the COs are pretty much guaranteed to be dead, we will have no flips. but im starting to think porkens is scum.