Animals Upick [Game Over]

[Bingle]

I'm a human miller whatever that means.

Me too! And it actually makes perfect sense for my flavor.

Does your version not explain what a human miller is?

[Bingle]

It is very important that we all take some time and decide what R Rated movie I sneak into. For... mechanical reasons.

[Bingle]

Why are you assuming there are a) 4 of them only b) all have claimed.

That went so far over your head I’m surprised you even saw it.

[Bingle]

I'm a human miller whatever that means.

Me too! And it actually makes perfect sense for my flavor.

Does your version not explain what a human miller is?

Are humans scum this game? I assume that's what it means.

-bitmap

I doubt humans are scum considering Krazy said we’d all get our picks and explicitly said I couldn’t pick people in the signups thread.

It soft confirms the existence of an investigation that picks up non binary results and to that investigation we would investigate as being of the human faction.

Krazy is a fan of using things like this to reduce the effectiveness of investigation and empower scum. Frequently there are ~1-2 scum/3p roles that also share that function, as well as vigs or similar that can only target humans/nonhumans. I think it was age based in the last Krazy uptick I reviewed.

Also, I’m excited to not be the reviewer this time around.

[Bingle]

Does Donkey Kong count as a dinosaur?

~Cosmic

Nah, he’s a donkey.

[Bingle]

I WANT TO BE TARGETED

Target PP

[Bingle]

Seriously though part of my role PM is genuinely gated behind getting people to make ranked lists of their favourite dinosaurs

Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!

[Bingle]

@Bingle, we could ask miller claims to post certain letters of the role who can investigate humans. What do you think?

You could ask Krazy if that breaks his cryptography rule, but it’s likely low value since said role has so many letters and scum likely have access to the info anyway.

[Bingle]

I rate this image 12/17.

My favourite dinosaurs:

5) King Bob-omb
4) Jurassic Park
3) TrueSoulEnergy
2) Yoshi
1) JJH

~Cosmic

Yoshi isn’t a dinosaur, he’s a tool. To be used and discarded at his rider’s whim.

[Bingle]

Conspire, list your favourite dinosaurs or I tell everyone who esper is

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No one knows who I am either...

~Cosmic

I feel like I made it clearly obvious I did

Oh, I get it now...

Fine,

2

people know. This is acceptable.

~Cosmic

I’m pretty sure I knew both of you at some point because of modding, but can’t be bothered to check. As such, I have decided you are MathDino and Ellibereth and will be held to the appropriate standard. You have 20 minutes to catch the scumteam.

[Bingle]

You’re a tool to be used and discarded at a rider’s whim.

I need an adult. To help me get into this R rated movie. Where were we at on that, btw? Is it Deadpool? I’d watch Deadpool again.

[Bingle]

VOTE: Holden

He clearly knows my flavor and is thus a threat to my successful movie going experience.

[Bingle]

Hmmm. Seven votes. Seems legit.

[Bingle]

I'm glad you're assuming your guess is wrong because I'm not the other party. Conspire is and it would be rude for me to confirm or deny anything

Clearly, there is no "

N

" in Cosmic or Esper. The guess is incorrect.

~Cosmic

Is there a z?

[Bingle]

Its that thingy from Ice age

Scatch I think?

Scrat, actually.

[Bingle]

First a manatee, now a duck. Why is the mod only doing water creatures?

All creatures are water creatures if you put them in a big enough fish tank.

[Bingle]

Step one: ensure creature doesn’t post D1 is complete.

[Bingle]

Now to claim creature not posting is scummy.

[Bingle]

UNVOTE:

[Bingle]

I think Creature is scummy via Creature!tell

Great, keep it up. They’ll never suspect were just using the main thread for our scum strategy discussions. NO ONE EXPECTS THE BIRD INQUISITION!

[Bingle]

Hi. My name is golden Holden and my ssn is 8675309. Popcorn to guyette

[Bingle]

You can't always read sarcasm online

Yeah, but believing that they genuinely meant that when they know the game barely just started is

-Calvin

My baseline opinion of people in general is currently lower than average

I’m offended you think I’m people. Clearly sir, I am an animal.

[Bingle]

Is your role picture from Happy? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Bingle]

Actually I am 1 shot jester and you ruined my wincon April

Weird. I’m a 3-shot jester and I win the first three times I’m lynched.

[Bingle]

I still need half the playerlist to list their favourite dinosaurs

I’m gonna need clearer instructions. Like dinosaur colloquially as in old people? Favorite dinosaurs to eat? Favorite dinosaurs in the media? Do reptoids count?

You can’t just leave me with such a vague prompt.

[Bingle]

At the very least, I'm not listing dinosaurs.

But... I like to making the lists.

[Bingle]

I can only count to 4.

[Bingle]

mastina not engaging me is pretty meh.

Boybyrds not engaging me is pretty :sadpanda:.

Pretty solid T/T vibes from PP/Andy's Wife.

Creature spamcatchup mostly without prompting gives me warm tinglies.

Votato going after me feels really nice, but that's probably not a thing if they're not aware of me as a player. votato, do you know me?

[Bingle]

Thank you for your honesty sword horse.

Jj, should I be townreading you?

[Bingle]

I’ve decided to rank the dinosaurs in the land before time.

1. Chomped, because chomper is a badass.
2. Spike, because spike gives no fucks.
3. Duckie, because you can’t help but root for the little guy.
4. Petrie, because while his voice is kinda annoying, at least he can fly.
5. Cera, because let’s face it, no one likes cera.
6. Little foot, because that guy is a colossal nerd.

Wikipedia says there’s a character named ruby, but that’s not a real thing because things from my childhood aren’t allowed to have continued after I outgrew them.

[Bingle]

I’m digging far side.

VOTE: Dunn

[Bingle]

Why are we in a cycle of putting people to L-1 then backing off when they fakeclaim

Personally? I haven't given a shit about any of them so I was waiting for something less boring.

[Bingle]

Bingle tier best tier.

Get on my level.

[Bingle]

Opinion on fotahdo, Jinglebingle?

He looks like the kind of player who will eventually be readable without too much poking. Him not knowing that I'm me means his awkward poking at me could be a legitimate attempt to get me lynched though, which means I'm not really townreading that attempt any more. I'm assuming he's town for now.

I have been noticing a tendency to just not read the words he posts though.

[Bingle]

I am at a loss on who I should buddy up to this game. No one seems friendly enough for me to just pal around with.

Penguin is my mortal enemy.
Dunny is being boring.
Creature is Creature. How do u even buddy up to him.
Clover Ebi is gr8 but not active enough.
Bingle could be fun to buddy up to but probably won't win me any medals for tricking.
votato I haven't known long enough to form a real meaningful relationship so I can't possibly buddy him. I am no skank.
Farside not susceptible to my buddying
Hydras aren't buddy material
lol mastinaa
holy shit dr easy bake is in this gme? must be scum.

~fire

Hey fire, if you buddy me I’ll send you this:

[Bingle]

A little.

@Hash Brown - Target Holden tonight.

I’m concerned about roleblocks if you try to coordinate, tbh. If anyone has a way to check for roleblocking, those two are a good place to use it. The roleclaim conversation bores me. I think it’s likely votato got a complicated role pm and didn’t understand it, but I don’t think not trying to understand it very hard until pressed is particularly AI. Frustrating, perhaps, but not scummy, really. Pps tunnel is towny AF tho.

Janitor claim seems pretty town.

Votato when it comes to flossing over your posts it’s mostly that you take forever to not really say anything, so I just don’t care very hard.

[Bingle]

Fine we won’t coordinate.

@French fry - do what you want, I guess.

That's not the takeaway from what I said. The takeaway is that it not happening isn't really a guilty.

After the claims, claiming your kill is fine.

[Bingle]

I have townreads on Farside, Penguin, Mastina, and Creature. If anyone disagrees with these feel free to chime in

I'm withholding a mastina townread until she talks to me.

Also, add April to your list.

[Bingle]

mafblack is the official skin of this site

There are other skins?

You should try maftiger. It'll change your world.

[Bingle]

Oh is it because of her Janitor ability? I hope not.

That doesn't hurt, but no. The interactions with PP come across as open and unworried, she clearly doesn't give a shit about being in the middle of things, she's posting without an agenda AFAICT, and she's got a pretty solid mix of pushing the game forward and shitposting.

[Bingle]

You said I wasn’t worth buddying. So no. We’re going home and we’re taking our ball with us.

[Bingle]

Hiya, I'm around now

I've mostly just been skimming this game rather than giving it a proper read as of late. I think people have interpreted some things very differently to me so it might be worth rereading. EG I've assumed like all of the claims were NAI fakeclaims and people are taking them seriously.

ok but as punishment, you must figure out mastina's alignment or else

-bitmap

Likely scum aorn, but she's been busy IRL so it might be a false positive.

[Bingle]

rawr indeed.

[Bingle]

Have you played with chem before?

[Bingle]

RAWR!

[Bingle]

I’d lynch GH over votato if we’re going there. Votato feels like he’s trying and moonlogicking where GH doesn’t and they are otherwise very similar in that I can’t actually remember any of their points.

[Bingle]

Oh, and because I was asked, I can’t read chem for shit, but my half remembered impression of his town game is 90% lazy posting 10% aggressive solving in the late game. I’d vote him for lack of scumreads, but I also don’t have enough townreads to justify being that lazy.

Mastina, otoh, isn’t scummy because she’s not here. She does that. She’s scummy because when she was here she didn’t attempt to work with jjh or me. If she’d continued to be here without reaching out to one of us it’d be a slam dunk case.


Back to being aloof. That’s a fun word. Everyone should say aloof 10 times. Preferably in front of random people so they can look at you like you’re insane.

[Bingle]

I’d lynch GH over votato if we’re going there. Votato feels like he’s trying and moonlogicking where GH doesn’t and they are otherwise very similar in that I can’t actually remember any of their points.

GH stands for GoldenHolden?

Aye.

[Bingle]

Give case for Votatown

-Calvin

Yes, his wagon sucks ass

Agreed. As does the BS wagon.

Interestingly, I think the Byrd wagon is towndriven, but am still mostly ambivalent to it.

How do you feel about April/CE/Farside/PP? I think that + you is a pretty solid townblock.

[Bingle]

Does anybody know what it means when DEB is content posting, btw?

Like, I know scumDEB is lolcatting, but I also thought townDEB was lolcatting. And he's being super serious this game. It's weird.

[Bingle]

Why the scum read on GH?

I don't. I think they're both pretty null. A scumread would require that I actually pay attention to their posts.

I feel like the unicorn is more likely town, but I don't actually have a read on either.

[Bingle]

What does moon logic king mean?

Engaging in the use of moonlogic.

Preemptively: moonlogic is logic that is entirely foreign to my way of thinking. Neither necessarily wrong or right, just fucking weird.

1+1=2 is right logic
1+2=5 is wronglogic
Horse+Cow=Firebringer is moonlogic

[Bingle]

[Bingle]

Welcome to the university of Holden. Your online zoom assignment today is to read mine and Votatos iso. This is worth 75% of your grade.

Good luck with that.

Also, jj looks town. Not picking up the beats he's laying, but that's not particularly worrisome at this point.

jj/farside is aggressively boring as far as fights go.

[Bingle]

Have fun sorting Bingle.

It’s okay, I’m pretty sure I’ll have a read on him by D3. D4 at the latest.

[Bingle]

Targeting penguins seems like a waste of an action when he’s obvtown by play.

Votato role spec is a meh vote today.

If janitor goes through, likelihood he’s fakeclaiming is low. If janitor fails, likelihood he’s fakeclaiming is low. If April flips scum, likelihood he’s scum decreases drastically. If April flips town likelihood he’s scum is == rand. If multiple janitor kills go through, likelihood he’s town increases drastically.

Votato is a distraction today unless there’s a supremely good non role reason to vote him.

[Bingle]

I'm a human miller whatever that means.

Me too! And it actually makes perfect sense for my flavor.

Does your version not explain what a human miller is?

Been just lucky these two miller claims show up together

Almost said they would be all town, but then I remembered (at least) scum have safeclaims and definitely one human picker may have randed scum and given miller as a safeclaim to blend in with all other millers

It's pretty much setup spec, so I'll ignore this for now and check individual plays. Still, don't recommend automatically trusting the miller claims

Weighing in on this: FL was functionally a scum miller in the last Krazy Upick, iirc. Miller claims def not locktown.

I doubt humans are scum considering Krazy said we’d all get our picks and explicitly said I couldn’t pick people in the signups thread.

So you picked anthropomorphic people?

Nah. I’m three raccoons in a trench coat trying to sneak into an R rated movie. Krazy photoshopped a picture for me, but it only has 2 raccoons in it, which makes me pretty sad. Still, I now have a picture of two raccoons in a trench coat to use for future D&D character portraits.

[Bingle]

April Ludgate, what is your opinion on Creature? PP, have you read Creature?

Same goes for you Tingle my Bajingle.

- turducken

He’s in my towncore, so probably scum.

[Bingle]

Votato is a distraction today unless there’s a supremely good non role reason to vote him.

Who should I vote then?

I don’t know. Mastina is the only one I think is actually scum but even thinking about pushing there right now makes me feel like I’m kicking my favorite puppy.

Im voting Dunn for :shrugs: while town hunting atm.

[Bingle]

April Ludgate is Nero Cain, I would bet.

- turducken

If I had to guess, I'd say Titus, but I don't think Titus does alts.

[Bingle]

@Penguin - we should just disregard that anyways. It’s a moo point.

you got it.

[Bingle]

Where did it come from?

My townreads. I'm not including myself because honestly half of this playerlist would doubt I was town if the mod confirmed it. Also, Penguin is half of this player list now.

[Bingle]

@Penguin - we should just disregard that anyways. It’s a moo point.

you got it.

I feel like we've had this exact interaction before, and I look forward to having it again in the future.

[Bingle]

Here’s a Vig, there’s a Vig, everywhere’s a Vig Vig, old McDonald had a farm, with a lot of dead bodies

[Bingle]

Updated readslist.

Town:

PenguinPower
April Ludgate
Creature
Clover Ebi

Town, but maybe I'm wrong because other people say they're not:

jjh927
Birds and the Boys
farside22

LHF, but probably still town:

votato
Dr Easy Bake

I think maybe I townread him, but I forgot if that's actually a thing and also why that would be a thing:

Blatant Scum

Definitely a player in this game, I think:

HoldenGolden
chemist1422
Conspire

Would lynch:

Calvin and Hobbes
Dunnstral

Scum? Maybe? God I feel icky saying this:

mastina

[Bingle]

Where did it come from?

My townreads. I'm not including myself because honestly half of this playerlist would doubt I was town if the mod confirmed it. Also, Penguin is half of this player list now.

what does that mean? are you implying you can also be confirmed town? are you implying that we shouldnt trust penguin even if penguin is confirmed?

I cannot be confirmed town. My role has nothing other than miller which would make my alignment clear, and miller makes cop results useless. That means unless we lynch scum repeatedly and end the game early, I will almost certainly die at some point. The sole exception to this is if a rolecop who can hit either natural or unnatural animals (I count as both for action resolution) targets me and we assume that miller can’t be scum, which isn’t a safe assumption in a theme game.

Penguin has a high level of paranoia about scum me because he was in my best scum game of recent memory where I convinced copPenguin that he had a false innocent result in order to win the game. Since then, even if there is absolutely no reason that anyone should scumread me, penguin scumreads me.

Also lmao at BS trying to meta read me. Even the best players on site have shit records when it comes to accurately reading me, especially when they think meta helps.

[Bingle]

:thorface:

[Bingle]

Counteroffer, when does turkey not?

[Bingle]

Right. I'll say it one more time:

April -> Janitors A
Votato -> Heals A

A doesn't die, April knows either Votato is telling the truth about his role or there is a roleblocker.
A is Janitored, April is functionally confirmed role and either Votato is scum or there is a roleblocker.
Votato gets a watch result with only April, April is confirmed Janitor to votato.

None of these hard confirm the alignment of either April or A, but they give us decent setup knowledge. Given the presence of half a dozen millers, town also likely has some pretty strong investigative juices flowing, so roleblock on the microcosm there is still pretty solid. If there is only one janitor, votato/janitor are unlikely S/S. If there is a second janitor, it is likely that votato and April are both town.

I don't see why everyone is so keen to lynch votato specifically today because of that.

[Bingle]

Nah, that's just JingleBingle. If he didn't do that he would be possessed.

True Nuff.

[Bingle]

Definitely a player in this game, I think:

HoldenGolden
chemist1422
Conspire

Would lynch:

Calvin and Hobbes
Dunnstral

Scum? Maybe? God I feel icky saying this:

mastina

I'd be fine lynching any of the above.

I'm also feeling less good about farside recently.

[Bingle]

I'm looking for a simple "If April dies Penguin gets to hammer fotahdo D2" and a good secondary target.

If April flips town janitor, and there is no unexplained janitor I'll probably be down to clown. (Unless night action results make other things more pressing.)

Hell, I might be down to clown if April and votato both live through the night, depending on their results. It's not impossible that votato is a scum conditional doc/watcher. Pretty much the only thing that would take votato entirely off the table for me would be a successful janitor somewhere that April isn't likely to target. I just don't like the lynch for D1 and think it's very LHF.

[Bingle]

I'm not sure why the farside wagon has legs when the dunn wagon doesn't, considering the farside case is distancing style vote on Dunn + angry tunnel on votato for :shrugs:

[Bingle]

The Dunnstral one you stated you were only on because you didn’t know where else to go, and Farside, the new wagon, was on it.

Not quite accurate.

I'm on Dunn because he's a perfectly acceptable option within my PoE pool and I don't have anything I want more.

There are a bunch of places I'd be fine going, I just don't feel strongly about them.

[Bingle]

Oh hey, Bingle is the last poster. I have no need to respond drunkenly here.

Despite that, you are all graced with the magnificence of a Bingle who has consumed roughly a quarter gallon of liquor. Stand ye, and be amazed at what a recovered alcoholic is capable of. BE AMAZED GODDAMMIT.

[Bingle]

A mechanical god even stated that there’s no reason to go Votato today.

Again, not entirely accurate. I said there's a moderately strong reason to not go after votato today (him being alive has the potential to net us setup information). If there's a lock solid scumcase against him he should probably be voted out. It's just that rn, the scumcase against him appears to largely be (he's awkward posting) and (he didn't understand his role or mod provided fakeclaim).

To the former, it's interesting and worth poking, but not damning imo. To the latter, I don't know enough about votato to know if he'd be more likely to assume knowledge about a town role or a scum role or ask Krazy questions about a town role or a scum role or a fakeclaim.

It does have the ring of a Krazy UPick role to me (see last UPick where there were dolphins that could give people walkie talkies that made neighborhoods), so I'd believe that he's a jandocawatchator of either the town or scum alignment over him not being a jandocawatchator, but I'd like to see what the night phase do before I decide whether I believe that jandocawatchator is an inherently scum or town role.

Also, I'm a group of animals, not a robot. There's no machinery in this trenchcoat, just good old fashioned trash pandas. I mean... I am a normal human being, and you should let me into that movie theater with the other normal human beings so I can watch my movie.

Also, I've decided to start signing my posts with the name of the panda speaking. This is Dave.

~Dave

[Bingle]

Hey jj. I know you've been inactive recently but I feel better about a dunn lynch than a farside one and groupthink suggests they have high partner equity.

I believe if you join me, April and pointyhorse will follow. PP probably votes there too given his last few pages (and why the fuck are you scumreading him in the first place?)

That's a 5 vote wagon on one of your scumreads, and to sweeten the deal, I found this in a dumpster for you:

[Bingle]

Also, rawr.

[Bingle]

Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus?

I made a list a while back. I'm not going to find it to quote it, but jic you missed it it was pretty boss.

[Bingle]

Partner equity with dunn, a pretty :/ progression on swordhorse, and she hasn't been very town recently, afaict. I still prefer the dunn lynch to the farside lynch though, and the wagon just shifted to Dunn at my command.

~Dave

[Bingle]

Pretty much yeah. Sloppy modding on his part to be honest but hey! Free conftown, I'll take it!

Pretty sure this makes mastina 100% scum.

[Bingle]

Also how tf do I get killed by scum asap?

[Bingle]

I NEVER make that Bingle kill.

I mean... If I'd realized who you were I probably would have caught you.

[Bingle]

Thanks for the game, Krazy! I wish I had been able to stick around the one time I was a player and not a reviewer, but apparently some people can't have nice things.

[Bingle]

Thanks for the game, Krazy!

I wish I had been able to stick around the one time

I was a player and not a reviewer, but apparently some people can't have nice things.

Sadly you seem to not be favored among the simon flash gods.

(Sorry for the shot bingle even if you would of died anyways)

No worries. I don't hold anything done in a mafia game against anyone. Except mastina. Clearly she killed me because I was enjoying myself and not because of any desire to win the game.

[Bingle]

Thanks for the game, Krazy! I wish I had been able to stick around the one time I was a player and not a reviewer, but apparently some people can't have nice things.

it was really funny seeing the one bulletproof be hit with the one vig shot AND the one mafia janitor shot the same night that the universal strongman was used

that is a magical night that Krazy and I spent like an hour trying to figure out how to properly resolve the janitor action because who the fuck can see that interaction happening ahead of time

All we wanted to do was go to the movies, and those monsters took that from us. MONSTERS!

[Bingle]

Uhhh. Elephants could totally drown someone. They have those trunks they can use to store water. Duh.