Hot Potato Mafia - Game Over

[Korts]

/confirm

/confirm
Also, I'm not a Cult Recruiter, yay!

kill: TDC

[Korts]

I'm a kitty cat and I confirm, confirm, confirm.

I feel there's a song reference here I'm just not getting.

There probably is. I'm not certain, either.

why say it then?

everything's a song reference. why say anything? you'll get it sung for you sooner or later.

[Korts]

everything's a song reference. why say anything? you'll get it sung for you sooner or later.

Boo.

Baa.

[Korts]

everything's a song reference. why say anything? you'll get it sung for you sooner or later.

Boo.

Baa.

That explains your previous post.

That explains basically everything I do.

[Korts]

It's going to be amazing.

[Korts]

This game is going to be hilarious isn't it?

until you lynch me, yep.

BM

No, it's going to be hilarious

because

we lynch you.

[Korts]

Well, okay. But how fun would it be to throw potatoes at BM?

[Korts]

I don't think it'll be number of passes that triggers it, it'd be impossible to avoid it. They probably don't, but I've gotta ask: do the players holding the potatoes know anything plus about the triggers?

[Korts]

Maybe if we all throw our potato's at BM he'll become over whelmed and they'll all explode?

I somehow don't think players can hold more than one potato. Might be worth a try, though.

[Korts]

Sunday is so not the 26th.

And you so didn't have to use "so" in that sentence. So.

[Korts]

Right. Nevermind then.

[Korts]

Wow.

Did we really need all of the pointless posts?

Potatoes asplosions... I was thinking that they would happen mostly along the lines of something like after X posts or X tosses, personally.

'Course, we can only guess until we get actual pink mist. I get the feeling that this is going to be a very unusual game...

Also, Battle Mage, you talk

way

too much...

So what do you propose, that we stand still and hope that the potatoes don't go off at all?

[Korts]

I suggest a voting system, where we effectively vote 2 people to be possible lynches. They then pass the potatoes between each other repeatedly until one dies. If they pass elsewhere, we simply pass all potatoes to them repeatedly till they die.

Me like.

Third.

[Korts]

fake vote: Rally Vincent

Hands up, who knew he's even in the game?

[Korts]

Fakevote: BM

for... BMing.

Why do you want me dead so bad? Thus far, all you've done of note, is pelt a potato at me, unprovoked, and then voted for me? Is there a reason you hate me?

BM

He probably loves you and can't cope with his feelings.

[Korts]

BM, the only difference between you and Crazy is that Crazy threw his potato

before

armlx suggested his plan. There's a distinction.

[Korts]

BM, the only difference between you and Crazy is that Crazy threw his potato

before

armlx suggested his plan. There's a distinction.

Personally, i dislike the use of plans in games with a different mechanic. More often than not, they are either concieved by scum, or followed by scum, and dissenters (predominantly town) end up getting scapegoated. It allows scum to ride on Armlx's coat-tails, assuming he is town himself. Brings back bad memories... :'(

BM

Hey, I'm not arguing that you're scummy for not following armlx's plan, I'm saying you trying to equate your potato throwing to Crazy's potato throwing is a bit off, since there's an obvious distinction between the two, namely that armlx proposed a plan in between.

[Korts]

I agree. It's probably best if the potatoes are kept constantly moving until we find a likely target for "lynch".

[Korts]

Skruffs, your speculations assume that all three potatoes are rigged to go off.

Also, how is letting the potatoes stay put any less random a "lynch" than having the potatoes move around?

[Korts]

Luigi- When I was just a newbie, back when dinosaurs ruled the earth, I was told that speculating on power roles is always bad because the reactions of people to the speculation can help the scum work out who has a power role and who doesn't.

It's true it will be hard to kill the players we want to kill in this game. There's probably a balancing mechanic but it's best not to guess at what it is.

/agree

If something in the setup balances things out, it'll happen. We don't need to know or speculate about it, that won't further any pro-town ends.

[Korts]

BM, then tell me, how is it any less random a lynch if the potatoes stay put? Assuming they are currently in the hands of valuable pro-town players, and also assuming that they obey and keep the potatoes like you imply they should, we have no chance of actually hitting scum. If, however, the potatoes are kept in motion, there is some chance that one of them actually asplodes into the face of someone we actually intend to kill.

[Korts]

elect a bum boy

I vote you. Or maybe Skruffs, from what i've heard.

BM

Let Luigi Gangsta do the chores

[Korts]

Since we're already tossing the potatoes, we should circulate them as fast as we can on Day 1. If scum doesn't know the triggers as well, they'll avoid tossing the potatoes to their buddies. The tossing pattern of scum will be interesting, if at last one of 'em is caught in an explosion.

fake vote: Rally Vincent

Hands up, who knew he's even in the game?

Just because everyone's ignoring me does not mean I... hey, wait. Hello...?

You, my friend, have clearly never heard of BUSSING.

I, my friend, have my own car

[Korts]

BM, then tell me, how is it any less random a lynch if the potatoes stay put? Assuming they are currently in the hands of valuable pro-town players, and also assuming that they obey and keep the potatoes like you imply they should, we have no chance of actually hitting scum. If, however, the potatoes are kept in motion, there is some chance that one of them actually asplodes into the face of someone we actually intend to kill.

So...you want a random kill? Are you kidding me!?
Did you actually just say that we should pass the potatoes around, because mathematically, we MIGHT hit scum? 0.o
I'd rather see the potatoes KEPT in the hands of those protown players, until we have some idea of where we are throwing them. I dont mind keeping them moving TOWARDS PEOPLE WE ARE SUSPICIOUS OF. But srsly, it seems atm we are just throwing our spuds around for the lols.

BM

Did I say throw it around

randomly

, you think? Yes, throw potatoes at suspicious guys, obviously. But don't have them stay put just for the sake of staying put.

[Korts]

elect a bum boy

I vote you. Or maybe Skruffs, from what i've heard.

BM

Let Luigi Gangsta do the chores

chores? since when was tha a chore?

BM

lol

[Korts]

Since we're already tossing the potatoes, we should circulate them as fast as we can on Day 1. If scum doesn't know the triggers as well, they'll avoid tossing the potatoes to their buddies. The tossing pattern of scum will be interesting, if at last one of 'em is caught in an explosion.

fake vote: Rally Vincent

Hands up, who knew he's even in the game?

Just because everyone's ignoring me does not mean I... hey, wait. Hello...?

You, my friend, have clearly never heard of BUSSING.

I, my friend, have my own car

Lol, i like you. I hope you enjoy a long and happy life in this game.

BM

I hope you won't mind if I redirect any potatoes at you, then

cos if the trigger is number of posts, our multiposting isn't furthering the pro-town cause.

[Korts]

Actually if we follow your advice, we're probably just speeding up the town victory.
BM

Tacit claiming scum?

[Korts]

Skruffs, I don't see it how BM confirmed that the potatoes are in pro-town hands. Could you elaborate? The other things I can see, at least.

[Korts]

Wow, quintuple post?

Your long post, which incidentally you posted twice, is giving me very scummy vibes. I'll be looking at it closer a bit later to see why. As of now, your reply to Skruffs is just confusing. It feels like you're caressing my brain with half a brick.

Skruffs, I don't see it how BM confirmed that the potatoes are in pro-town hands. Could you elaborate? The other things I can see, at least.

At last. I'm not going crazy!

Korts, would you care to explain what the 'other things you can see' are?

BM

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz, BM?
You avoided my question: Why aren't you interested in the other two throwing their potatoes as much as you are getting Armlx blown up?

I think you are missing some very obvious points here. Firstly, John is NOT HERE. He won't be throwing his potato until he shows up or gets replaced now, will he? Secondly, I highly doubt Porochaz will listen to anything i have to say.

Completely avoided the question.

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz?

DUDE. TRY READING MY WHOLE POST BEFORE YOU GET A BEE IN YOUR BONNET!

More avoidance of the question?
Your response to "Do you think Armlx should toss to Porochaz" is, "John is not here" and "I doubt Porochaz will listen to what I have to say"... but nothing, no part of your answer, says, "Yes, I think he should" or "No, I think he shouldn't"...
Hmm. Not sure what secret hidden cryptological puzzle you have imbedded in your post, but I Really don't see a valid, direct answer to the questoin.

Here, Skruffs has a point. You don't answer the question at all, your reply includes opinions about John and Porochaz, but the question was about armlx. When asked again, you point at your initial reply, which, as I said, doesn't include an actual answer.

Now, a few questions for you:

1. Why do you think that it is solely my job to determine who throws potatoes where?

What gives you the impression that I think that?

The fact that you are asking my opinion on what everybody should do with their potatoes. Nobody elses. Just mine. Now, stop completely avoiding the question.

I'm not asking your opinion; you've already given it. I'm asking the basis for your opinion. Why one polayer and not another, why throwing to this player and not another, etcetera. Trying to twist what I am saying and asking you into some sort of ultimatum is pretty last-year's-playstyle for you, BM.

Here, you initially tried to misrepresent Skruffs; his motives for asking were pretty clear, given that it was after (and in reply to) you (I assume jokingly) proposed that either armlx throw a potato at Porochaz or vice versa. His question of "what gave you that impression" is fully justified IMO.

2. Why are you pretending to scumhunt when the majority of us are clearly still in the 'random' stage.

I rarely see townies complain about a random stage being over. Why are you?

What gives you the impression that i am?

If you liked it, you wouldn't be asking me why I was doing it - you would be doing it yourself or encouraging it. But I do like how you returned an answer to me that you yourself claimed was an 'avoiding the question' answer, which was itself a mirror to the FIRST answer you gave me. Now that you have confirmed that you are intentionally avoiding questions I am asking (And for apparently no reason), I am happy to see you baptized in a Trial By Potato.

Your hypocrisy here is the point I agree with.

Of course, there are points in Skruffs post that are just pointless arguments which I don't care to list because I'm too lazy; plus I don't follow how you've confirmed that the potatoes were in pro-town hands. But that doesn't change the fact that Skruffs has some valid points against you.

Woo. Long post. Will be analyzing your reply later.

[Korts]

Do you think Armlx should throw to Porochaz, BM?
You avoided my question: Why aren't you interested in the other two throwing their potatoes as much as you are getting Armlx blown up?

[...]

I wouldnt mind Armlx throwing at Porochaz. It would serve the same end as my suggestion, just with a higher risk, as i'm getting townie vibes from Porochaz atm. And Armlx? hmm, not so much.

BM

I guess I owe you an apology.

[Korts]

Well.

Was it the hope that triggered it, you think?

[Korts]

Skruffs, Potato Factory Worker, Townie, has been killed by a Russet Potato at 4:18 Central District Time.

I'm having trouble converting this. For comparison reasons, could someone tell me the length of time between the above mentioned time and the timestamp of this post. Thank you.

I don't think you need to convert that to match it to the forum clock. Check q21's post where he tossed it to Skruffs, and the timestamp. It's 4:18.

[Korts]

What i dont understand is the bit in italics. Can you please explain?

BM

Sure. If someone blows off a potato with a known or at least assumed trigger on purpose, he'd better have a good reason.

I think anyone who throws a Potato anywhere should have a good reason.

I said this like 10 pages ago.....

A lot of people have been saying this for more pages than I care to count.

[Korts]

A lot of people have been saying this for more pages than I care to count.

Any reason then more people haven't been held accountable for their actions?

No, no particular reason. I guess we had more important things to talk about. You want to dig up the list of names?

[Korts]

A reason should always accompany a throwing of a potato, although potatoes should be thrown as quickly as possible, unless if that potato is known to explode after X throws.

Your point being? I don't see how you're doing anything more than restating the already restated.

[Korts]

Thank you, although that wasn't my point. My point is, there were some people who threw potatoes jokingly or without reason, and whether you think it worthwhile requesting reasons several pages after the initial throws.

[Korts]

I'm also disinclined to dismiss JWW as noobish, based on his signup post. Apparently he won a scummy back in 2003, so he must understand the basics.

[Korts]

If you want something other than mafia games, there is the mish-mash forum. The title of this game is "Hot Potato

Mafia

". I think that's indication enough.

[Korts]

Erm as far as i can tell, you've never had a potato. 0.o

FoS: Luigigangsta

BM

I had a potato fool, don't accuse me of something and give me and FOS without doing your homework....

Saying "No, I did" isn't real proof.

However, it seems you're right.

Potato Tracking Count #5:

• M4yhem is in possession of a Russet Potato

Chuck potato at Luigi Gangsta

Welcome to the game.

BM?

[Korts]

...Q21 is probably town in my eyes anyway.

How so, BM???

He blatantly and openly declared war on Skruffs. Regardless of whether he knew it would kill him, he brought himself right out into the open- something i could not see him doing as scum in a game like this.

BM

You do realize that that's WIFOM, I hope.

[Korts]

WIFOM, as in it's just as possible he did so anticipating exactly the kind of reaction you made. I mean, you go and say things like "I wouldn't expect scum to do this, therefore if he did this, he's very likely pro-town" and don't understand why people say you're spouting WIFOM?

And now that I reread your sentence, am I reading it correctly and you're referencing q21's scum meta? If so, please clarify.

[Korts]

...Q21 is probably town in my eyes anyway.

How so, BM???

He blatantly and openly declared war on Skruffs. Regardless of whether he knew it would kill him, he brought himself right out into the open- something i could not see him doing as scum in a game like this.

BM

Wouldn't it be exactly what scum would dare to do in a game like this? Because, you know... we cannot punish behaviour like this on the spot. [/i]

My point is something like this, too. Also, not only can we not punish such behaviour, some of us wouldn't want to for WIFOM reasons *nudgenudgewinkwinkBMsaynomore*

[Korts]

I don't, as a general rule, apply WIFOM to anything and everything, but this

is

. I wasn't trying to make a big deal out of it, just pointing it out.

@BM: what I meant by scum meta is that you said that what q21 did is "something you could not see him doing as scum in a game like this" and whether you had seen q21's play as scum before to be able to make this call.

@q21: I wasn't accusing you of trying to "WIFOM your way past us", I was merely pointing out what you yourself say, that you attacking Skruffs isn't enough to declare you town.

[Korts]

I don't, as a general rule, apply WIFOM to anything and everything, but this

is

. I wasn't trying to make a big deal out of it, just pointing it out.

Korts, my friend... *sigh*

If you call WIFOM on something as weak as this, it's inconsistent to say that you dont believe defending somebody

by definition

is scummy, or at least logically flawed. Is that what you really believe?

Calling my set of beliefs inconsistent based on this instance is a bit off. Your statement registered as WIFOM. Whether it was

weak

or not, I didn't state, and weak WIFOM or strong WIFOM, it's still WIFOM. WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM. I wonder how many times I'll be using the word WIFOM. WIFOM?

What do you mean by "

by definition

"? There are multiple instances when defending someone can be scummy. It depends largely on context.

[Korts]

I don't, as a general rule, apply WIFOM to anything and everything, but this

is

. I wasn't trying to make a big deal out of it, just pointing it out.

Korts, my friend... *sigh*

If you call WIFOM on something as weak as this, it's inconsistent to say that you dont believe defending somebody

by definition

is scummy, or at least logically flawed. Is that what you really believe?

Calling my set of beliefs inconsistent based on this instance is a bit off. Your statement registered as WIFOM. Whether it was

weak

or not, I didn't state, and weak WIFOM or strong WIFOM, it's still WIFOM. WIFOM WIFOM WIFOM. I wonder how many times I'll be using the word WIFOM. WIFOM?

What do you mean by "

by definition

"? There are multiple instances when defending someone can be scummy. It depends largely on context.

But you have pretty well declared that any and all attempts to defend someone are inherently scummy. Which i find, rightly, ridiculous.
If you try and defend someone, i'll gladly show you what i mean in practical terms, as an example of just HOW ridiculous your comment is.

BM

Where did I do exactly that? I just pointed out that the point on which you base q21's pro-townness is subjective at best, and not hard to be considered WIFOM.

[Korts]

Did he post since then? Not really. So why are you pushing your questions if he hasn't had a chance to answer them yet?

[Korts]

He posted just now and didn't answer. To me, that's enough.

What do you care anyway?

I don't like you restating your question toward tss when he hasn't posted in this thread since you first asked. Why are you so defensive?

[Korts]

Wait, sorry, M4yhem. I assumed you questioned tss about the kuribo hate after this post:

Riceballtail and Luigi Gangsta are kuribo's scum partners. This should be obvious to anyone with eyes.

[Korts]

P.S. Korts:

Skruffs, I don't see it how BM confirmed that the potatoes are in pro-town hands. Could you elaborate?

Not sure if this got answered, but I think it was this:

I'd rather see the potatoes KEPT in the hands of those protown players, until we have some idea of where we are throwing them.

Implying that the hands the potatoes were then in were pro-town.

Not that there's any real point arguing over this, you've taken my comment out of context. The original scenario posed (i believe by Skruffs or possibly Armlx) was that the potatoes were in the hands of the protown players and that we should be throwing them around. My retort was that i'd rather see the protown players with the potatoes keep them until they have some idea about what they want to do with them.

I can stand for a

Vote: TSS

You've been niggling at me all game.

BM

Hm, yes. It was me who said that

if

the potatoes were all in pro-town hands, then we wouldn't have any chance at catching scum so long as the potatoes weren't moving.

pinkyFoS: TSS

The case on kuribo is interesting, but far from convincing. Kuribo isn't the only one who hasn't contributed much aside from speculation.

[Korts]

Another one who doesn't use the fakevote system? that'd be me, I guess.

[Korts]

vote: crazy

, then

his oneliners look like an attempt at flying under the radar.

[Korts]

I see how your theory works in... well, in theory, kuribo, but look at the current situation, for instance.

Your prime suspect is TSS; TSS' prime suspect is you. We don't learn anything new from the to-and-fro lobbing of the potato, since both sides have stated reasons for throwing.

[Korts]

Your prime suspect is TSS; TSS' prime suspect is you. We don't learn anything new from the to-and-fro lobbing of the potato, since both sides have stated reasons for throwing.

but that's exactly why we DO learn from the lobbing.

That you suspect each other?

[Korts]

So, looks like time did it for the Baked Yellow Potato. That, or by PM, if it doesn't match any time stamp like armlx says.

[Korts]

@Scum in this game: do you have a NK?

Nice

TSS, I don't see how kuribo making up his own mind makes him scum, sorry.

[Korts]

a kuribo-TSS-armlx threesome I'm fine with.

[Korts]

unvote, vote: armlx

Just so you can legitimately join the threesome. Enjoy.

[Korts]

Still, you're the third, as far as I care to know, therefore the potato will be circulating between the three most suspected.

[Korts]

standard lynch procedure doesn't apply here, arlmx. Don't pretend it does, only scum would desire to do so.

[Korts]

standard lynch procedure doesn't apply here, arlmx. Don't pretend it does, only scum would desire to do so.

This is funny, because the only thing destroying an orderly fashion of elimination does is let the scum get more free potato kills in.

An orderly fashion of elimination needs to be set up, agreed, but should know that standard lynch procedure doesn't work in this situation like it should. What you proposed back a lot of pages ago isn't standard lynch procedure, since it involves two people set up for a lynch, not one. And you setting it up like I didn't agree with your proposed plan smells of bad to me.

[Korts]

As I've said, fakevoting helps the scum more than it hinders them.

I'm not so sure. Consider the fakevoting system two simultaneous lynches, with one of them being "pardoned". It's not any more helpful to scum than conventional lynching, and if it is, only by a small margin.

[Korts]

I see less votes on me then either TSS or Kuribo.

Because the people who agree with me are probably the "fakevoting is pointless" crowd.

fakevote: kuribo

Just so nobody puts me in your "agreeing" crowd.

And disagreement is a legitimate reason to vote (even if the vote is fake)? Yays!

[Korts]

In my irrelevant opinion, criticism can be just as valuable input as any other comment.

[Korts]

I scanned Luigi Gangsta's posts for possible connections, but all I've got is a potato throw to DBE, which makes me think DBE has a slightly smaller chance of being LG's partner (although it's still in the early stages of potato tossing, when explosion isn't to be expected).

Then there's this, after Skruffs' death:

I'm not sure we should be counting that potato kill as a scum tell

Maybe trying to defend the player who threw the potato to Skruffs (q21).

Riceballtail and Luigi Gangsta are kuribo's scum partners. This should be obvious to anyone with eyes.

I think this is a rather strong allegation so early in the game, and with no supporting evidence? What are you getting at? Do you actually believe that?

And this reaction makes me think that TSS was right on at least one part, meaning that I think either RBT or kuribo is partners with LG.

Everything else is just noise or game theory.

[Korts]

Or if you play on a site where bussing happens often.

[Korts]

I assume that's

shouldn't

in there. Also, I for one didn't assume that it's the case. I just tried to say that you implying that it shouldn't even be considered outside of BIZARRO WORLD is silly. Why are you trying so hard to preemptively defend yourself against the accusation of bussing?

I didn't seriously consider this option before, but it would make sense for TSS to outright finger two of his scumbuddies, maybe even all three (RBT, kuribo, LG) as scumpartners, in an attempt to save his own skin. Add to that your furious denial of any actual bussing going on when I don't see serious accusations of it.

I'll have to give this serious thought.

[Korts]

True. Just for the sake of arguing, TSS didn't necessarily throw the Instant Potato at LG in the knowledge that it would explode in his hands.

[Korts]

Yes, but we had already speculated that use of the word "Instant" meant that someone was going boom. I damn sure meant to kill TSS when I threw it at him, and while for now it seems lucky that I didn't, it doesn't change the fact that that was my intent. (And likely TSS' intent in throwing to LG)

I just don't see any proper pro-town reason for intending to kill LG. Other than mild lurking and saying general truths, he didn't seem to stand out from the crowd.

[Korts]

Lol, this whole time I was thinking TSS exploded, not Luigi. So... that's why I was thinking that Kuribo wasn't likely scum.

Yeah, just to clarify since looking back my reasoning doesn't make much sense now.

It makes sense, you only have to switch the names of the characters around. TSS isn't likely to be scum, as things look right now.

[Korts]

CC09 seems pretty scummy right now. I'm not sure I buy his "I didn't realize" defense.

[Korts]

Is that a softclaim of something?

vote: Coheed

[Korts]

kuribo, I may have taken this the wrong way, but the way I read CC09's last post, he may be softclaiming a role ability that bolded votes on him count, and something, at least, will happen when he is "lynched".

[Korts]

You mean like a supersaint-type role?

[Korts]

I think the scum version's bomb. I see where you're coming from. I think maybe it'd be safer to blow him up with a potato.

CC09, if that was a softclaim, please make a full claim.

[Korts]

I don't understand how your claim has anything to do with bolded votes. Please elaborate.

[Korts]

I have to have a potato, throw it to a person then say Kill: player and we both die.

I need a potato so I can throw it to someone(or else I can only kill Wizardcat today) and the bolded votes was so I would be killing who the majority wanted dead.

And you'll die yourself when you do this?

[Korts]

Well, we only have to have Wizardcat here if we need this plan to have a chance to work...

[Korts]

Is everyone ok with DarlaBlueEyes getting killed by me today?

Do it.

I'd rather go RBT, if it comes to that.

[Korts]

Move potato to CoheedCombria09

It's 5:30AM, and the only reason I'm posted at this time is because of my insomnia and I remembered about this and I saw the time it has been held. I can see why I don't play mafia very often here.

Agree with DBE-tossing. I also recall wanting to toss potatoes at TDC earlier.

I feel like I'm missing something important but I'm too tired to see it.

[Korts]

Oh. I thought you were saying the potato hadn't been in CC09's possession.

[Korts]

note: I will be away without access from Thursday to Sunday. I'd be happy if no potatoes came my way until I come back.

[Korts]

Okay, so I'm no longer a potato virgin, yay.

On a different note, I haven't heard from DGB much other than chiming in on the claim.

shoot potato at DGB

[Korts]

Thank you, very nice. Why, exactly?

shoot russet potato at M4yhem

in case you wanna bake it.

[Korts]

Fire Doomsday Russet potato at Riceballtail

DGB, I think you have the blue potato, not the russet one.

[Korts]

Anyone want to test that claim. We throw the Baked yellow around 14 times between us then chuck it to RBT and see it he dies.

If he does he's a lying bastard and deserves to die.

If it doesn't his role is proved (at least to me, to you it depends if you believe me or not) and we et the 15 throws back again.

Thoughts.


... which I will read tomorrow... I'm going to bed.

I don't get how we would get the 15 throws back again. Wouldn't it be just one more throw from there? And if so, would you be content with giving RBT the chance to, basically, dayvig? I don't trust his judgement in this game.

[Korts]

Way to be productive, bravo, brava!

It seems this game has degenerated into a game of hot potato without the mafia.

[Korts]

Unfortunately, none spring to mind, otherwise I'd have elaborated in the previous post.

[Korts]

Uh. Okay?

[Korts]

Riceballtail and Luigi Gangsta are kuribo's scum partners. This should be obvious to anyone with eyes.

TSS was two-thirds right. I'm interested in testing the third part.

[Korts]

I don't know how much access I'll have in the following days, so don't flip out if I don't post much. Sorry in advance for any inconvenience.

[Korts]

Ok, I've read the discussion since my last check-in, it didn't take particularly long...

*twiddles thumbs at Wizardcat*

[Korts]

Toss baked yam at RBT

If I remember correctly, he was my top suspect yesterday.

[Korts]

Korts, I'm pretty sure that RBT is town on account of my believing the role exists.

Here, catch! ***gently lobbing Russet Potato at Korts***

Oh, I believe it exists, I just don't think it's an inherently pro-town role.

[Korts]

EBWOP:

toss russet potato at Porochaz

Mostly because I'm so out of sync with this game, but don't want to keep potatoes.

[Korts]

Oh, I believe it exists, I just don't think it's an inherently pro-town role.

Hmmm, I hadn't thought of it that way... but then we could never lynch that player, how does it make sense as a scum role?

*facepalm*

It was pointless to throw potatoes at him, I just realized...

But yeah, you do have a point. I just assume in general that there can be lynch-immune roles just like NK-immune roles on both sides. But since we don't have (or if there are, they're one-shot) NKing power roles, we can dismiss an anti-town lynch-immune player as unlikely...

[Korts]

EBWOP: To clarify, I confused RBT's claim with q21's.

[Korts]

No, so focused because you might be lying, and if you're not, it'll not hurt at all.

If I was scum I could just nightkill you. (And what exactly would scum gain by testing your claim? They already know whether you're lying.)

It won't hurt RBT, but it'll hurt the next person the potato is thrown to.

[Korts]

Even if RBT is confirmed that way, I don't trust his judgement all that much to make the kill practically. We'll have to vote, if we're going that way.

[Korts]

That said, with 3 potatoes in the running, this might actually be sort-of-LyLo. Hm.

If q21's informations are correct, we only have two "lynches", though. With eight people alive right now, LYLO would be tomorrow even in the worst case scenario (I'm assuming four scum).

[Korts]

oookay.

mod:

what about the yam?

[Korts]

RBT was a bluffing townie??? Aw that's cute.

Everyone should try it sometime.

And that's the cue for my claim...


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Just kidding.

[Korts]

Hmm, what if the yam was a trigger, not a "weapon"? Also, drunk posting ftw....

[Korts]

The case against skitzer is very nice. But hear me out. If we want him to explode instead of a pro-town role,

don't

have DGB or me make the killing throw. We are the least confirmed players of the ones alive.

[Korts]

If it just bounces between me and M4yhem it will be him that makes the possibly killing throw. I trust him to do it.

I agree to that.

[Korts]

Me! Me! Me!



Nobody ever tosses me the ball.

I'd rather not have you (or me, for that matter) take part in the potato throwing business, in case there are two scum left, which may be possible, I don't know. If there are two scum, when they gain the potato, they can throw back and forth and cause a mislynch.

Let's just have q21 and M4yhem play this out themselves.

[Korts]

Congrats, scum. The lack of scumhunting was the main reason for your victory; we (i.e. I) just didn't really know how to find scum lacking a vote record.

Great setup, PJ, Yos. The main problem was that when theory was exhausted, we didn't really have much to talk about, the voting system being invalid in this game... Correction, there would've been lots to talk about, we just didn't know what was relevant to this setup. Otherwise, you obviously put a lot of thought and work into it, and it showed.

BTW, was my role name one of the reasons against a massclaim? It was just... confusing to see every vanilla turn "potato factory worker" while I was vanilla with a role name like "James Bond".