Don't need Massclaim, just whether Eve is Mason or not.In post 6858, gobbledygook wrote:When eve claims it will start the massclaim
Mason shouldn't out if Eve is not the Mason.
If Eve is the Mason... well, I won't push her anymore.
-Stuxnet
Don't need Massclaim, just whether Eve is Mason or not.In post 6858, gobbledygook wrote:When eve claims it will start the massclaim
It is not ideal for scum to have one of their partners going down with not so high payoff.In post 6865, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, why not? Scum can easily be confident about their scumbuddy being scum b/c they know they are scum. It makes you look good and everyone else bad.
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could easily be interpreted as buddying. It's in the same vein of scum congratulating a vig for a good vig shot.
I hope you don't have your vote in play right now.In post 6869, gobbledygook wrote:What’s VC on NM?
Yes, because the argument is valid. And she is not the first to have offered that argument.In post 6870, Nero Cain wrote:And this sounds like Baezu wanting to lynch in xmas. Does a town Baezu, that just flipped scum in her game, want to lynch in the other game?In post 4652, Baezu wrote:Statistically we have more chance of lynching scum in the xmas game but the scum pool is bigger there
Please tell me what your solve would be in Christmas if Not_Mafia is town.In post 6875, gobbledygook wrote:I don’t believe the tracker claim though.
We have all the time in the world, farside. We won't let players get away with lurkingfarside22 wrote:I mean if we went with stats for the game based on players and poe it down, then lynching works better for the more active side to have the reads. This side i would put the not lynching at all as only 2 players not including myself.
How are you sure this is not his scum-in-a-bad-position meta?In post 6880, gobbledygook wrote:Nero is playing to his town meta and I think churros is playing town plus a lot of people townread Mastina even if I didn’t.
Yup. Lack of explanations is not particularly scum indicative for Baezu, I think.In post 6882, Nero Cain wrote:Is this the progression of a not scumbuddy? Why does she go from town reading lie ren to not? What were her reasons for scum reading lie ren? 3760 is also confusing b/c she was calling loads of people scum b4 then. Does she often suddenly lose her confidence like that?
I think you should be null. My question was why you're being townread, not why not scumread.Nero Cain wrote:ignoring my meta, what makes you think I'm scum?In post 6881, Trojan Horses wrote:How are you sure this is not his scum-in-a-bad-position meta?
I'm waiting for Yshtola and NSG to carry heh, but if they're not doing anything I'mma spice up the game!gobbledygook wrote:I mean even ignoring his meta a lot of his positions and pushes seem organic. I dunno. Kinda waiting on you and NSG to carry.In post 6881, Trojan Horses wrote:How are you sure this is not his scum-in-a-bad-position meta?
Do you have any candidate solves in the universe that NM is town?Nero Cain wrote:I could totes see a scum NM claim a pr so he doesn't get lynched today.
That is hardly my only reasonIn post 6889, Nero Cain wrote:like ok granted, I can understand an "eve is scummy b/c she quick hammered Titus!" and yes there can be a ton of scum motivation in that but we just got out of a game where green pm Eddie qhed Pine so I mean, seems kinda null to me.
I think you're salty that I don't townread youIn post 6895, Nero Cain wrote:what if its something weird like TH, gobble and ???
I was joking, since you said the same to me a few posts agoIn post 6901, Nero Cain wrote:maybe kinda? I don't think Nancy is outside of anything she could pull as scum and you ignoring multiple meta town reads on me is kinda not really a fan that you you didn't answer my q about who is scum if eve is town.
and I'm growing increasingly suspicious of the "im waiting on X to solve/carry" from u and gobble. I think the town read on Baezu is weird.
It has to be between Cakez and Baezu. I cannot say with confidence who would be scum out of those two. I can say that Yshtola is town with high confidence.In post 6903, gobbledygook wrote:Who do you think is scum in Halloween if Eve is town, TH?
I'm establishing my degree of confidence in Eve being scum. As long as she is one of the two remaining lynched in Halloween, I am happy; that is what I am trying to say.In post 6905, Nero Cain wrote:Why would you agree to chain lynch Baezu if you are town reading that slot?
Then please don't vote *at all* till everyone solves.In post 6902, farside22 wrote:Problem is only a few are solving. This game will become tedious and I would promote my own lynch just on the bias that i was tired of the it maybe X discussion and wanting flips and votes to analsys
Yes, I am waffly. I townread you, but you make super scummy posts. You keep propping up my "agenda to mislynch you" when I want to lynch someone else.In post 6910, SirCakez wrote:It's undeniable that you have gone back and forth on your read on me ALL GAME. Including posts that are extremely waffly i;e "I thought he was town buuuuuuuuut"
Still reading but this really annoyed me
And I'm also townreading Baezu; Gobbles and Nero think you're scumz if not Baezu...In post 6914, SirCakez wrote:I don't see a world where Baezu is scum here. Does not make any sense with LR. And the push she's been doing on me all game against my old push on her seems more townie.
I keep forgetting about WW slot.
I suppose Eve could really be scum here but I just find TH's actions too scummy to ignore. I find it ridiculous that Boro is acting like he doesn't understand why I think he could be scum here. The "waiting for NSG" stuff is really weird, agree with Nero on this.
VOTE: Trojan Horses
Yeah don't worry about that: I'll be evaluating the arguments she proposes on their own merit. If she reaches conclusions different to mine, I'll engage about them thoroughly.In post 6921, Nero Cain wrote:I don't and that's not what I said. I said we shouldn't be relying on her to solve.
It is not important, and I think I would prefer an Xmas lynch first. Then massclaim, then a Halloween lynch.In post 6923, Nero Cain wrote:can someone explain to me why it's so important to lynch in Halloween b4 xmas? I wouldn't be surprised if NM just ends the game.
...In post 6927, SirCakez wrote:Gobbles and Nero are not in Hallowee; I'm not concerned with Xmas right now.
You mean before Halloween, right?In post 6930, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, with unlimited deadlines we DO need to lynch b4 Xmas but yeah...
nsg too, wanting Xmas to lynch first, is blatantly protown. We only need to lynch one more scum in EITHER game, not 2 in the same, so pushing Halloween into LYLO is gamethrowing.In post 6943, Trojan Horses wrote:Farside, Nero are townlocks. Gobbles being okay with Cakez’s idiocy is concerning. @Cakez, if you’re town here, please stop being a gamethrowing woat. 3 dead town slots locktowned us: jjh, Vecna, Titus. Check it out if you’re town and don’t want to gamethrow.
Btw, in what godforsaken non-existent universe, do you read our mindmeld with you on Baezu, scummy?
SirCakez, I really want to solve between you and Baezu right now.In post 6916, SirCakez wrote:I don't want to operate with you!town NOW
It’s not us and I don’t know why you’d be voting the slot that was actively trying to stop your lynch? And you should be advocating for Xmas to lynch first, rather than pushing Halloween into LYLO. Xmas can still afford a mislynch, Halloween can’t.In post 6944, SirCakez wrote:I'm not a WOAT
Ok TH let me ask you this - if Eve is town, who is the Halloween scum?
We’re not scum. The point is that a mislynch in Xmas won’t throw us into LYLO and if we lynch correctly, our wincon is the same, so it makes absolutely no sense to lynch in Halloween first. Do you understand that?In post 6954, SirCakez wrote:Accusing me of gamethrowing here is RICH.
And I don't understand the flaw in lynching in Halloween; both games have a mislynch left.
ok
Fine
Whatever
I'm going to rage if you are scum post-game.
Talk to me about Xmas
Eve, are you a Mason or not?In post 6956, Eve wrote:fire sneakers sure is feisty - i've maybe kind of changed my mind on them again
SirCakez or Baezu who to pick
ok that post is decent cakez you've convinced me
VOTE: Baezu
In post 6955, SirCakez wrote:Answer my question too please
@Cakez, I don’t honestly know now. I 100% expected Eve to vote us. In any case, we should 100% be lynching in Xmas game first and if get it right, we win and if we’re wrong, we’re still not in LYLO, so no logical reason to lynch in Halloween first.In post 6956, Eve wrote:fire sneakers sure is feisty - i've maybe kind of changed my mind on them again
SirCakez or Baezu who to pick
ok that post is decent cakez you've convinced me
VOTE: Baezu
Same way Titus felt obvious? No, we should wait for everyone to postIn post 6963, SirCakez wrote:Well then we should just off N_M here seems pretty obvious no?
Not consensus, only my slot and a couple of others would like you to claim.In post 6964, Eve wrote:do i really need to claim? is this the consensus?
Who do you think is scum in Xmas?In post 6971, Eve wrote:actually fine i'm not a mason
Well, as Thor665 used to say... Color me unsurprised!In post 6977, gobbledygook wrote:Eve not being mason has me shook that I almost don’t believe
{Lie Ren, Eve, Sushi, GIF} was my PoEIn post 6979, gobbledygook wrote:Yeah yeah rub it in once your slot doesn’t hard defend flipped scum
We should be lynching in Xmas guys. Why aren’t we doing that? and of course, NOT before the mass claim.In post 6986, Trojan Horses wrote:first massclaim
Who do you think NM’s buddy in Xmas is?In post 6985, gobbledygook wrote:I do think she’s town, but I am willing to concede for TH so I can either eat crow or rub it in their faceIn post 6984, SirCakez wrote:You say this like you know Eve is going to flip town?In post 6982, gobbledygook wrote:But uh let’s vote Eve bid farewell to TH and then kill Nm?
Technically everyone in that post is some I think is gonna flip town except Nm
Insert rest of the slots somewhereIn post 6763, Trojan Horses wrote:SC->Eve->Not_Mafia->BBMolla->Churros->Nero->farside->Baezu->Gob->Me->NSG->Yshtola
Because Halloween mislynch throws us directly into LYLO, where as it doesn’t in Xmas.In post 6992, gobbledygook wrote:You guys still haven’t explained why it’s better to lynch in Xmas over Halloween at this point in the game. Like we can still lynch in Halloween then lynch in Xmas right after
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Probably NSG. I think it’s Baezu/SC/Eve in Halloween and then NM/NSG in Christmas.
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Uh why do I go before so many others? Lol
This is what I was waiting for. Now you know what I was pushing you to do.In post 6975, Eve wrote:not nero
not farside
probably not churros
maybe not northisdegal
so in (BBMolla not mafia gobbles wonderwall)
If, did you ever read Timeshift? It was a scum stomp, because town literally did just that,In post 6996, gobbledygook wrote:Yes. Why does it matter if we are in LyLo in that game? As long as no one yolo votes it is fine. There’s no deadline.In post 6994, Trojan Horses wrote:Because Halloween mislynch throws us directly into LYLO, where as it doesn’t in Xmas.In post 6992, gobbledygook wrote:You guys still haven’t explained why it’s better to lynch in Xmas over Halloween at this point in the game. Like we can still lynch in Halloween then lynch in Xmas right after
Pedit:
Probably NSG. I think it’s Baezu/SC/Eve in Halloween and then NM/NSG in Christmas.
Pedit2:
Uh why do I go before so many others? Lol
No, literally the woatest town ever in the history of mafia.In post 6999, gobbledygook wrote:No, I can’t read.In post 6998, Trojan Horses wrote:If, did you ever read Timeshift? It was a scum stomp, because town literally did just that,In post 6996, gobbledygook wrote:Yes. Why does it matter if we are in LyLo in that game? As long as no one yolo votes it is fine. There’s no deadline.In post 6994, Trojan Horses wrote:Because Halloween mislynch throws us directly into LYLO, where as it doesn’t in Xmas.In post 6992, gobbledygook wrote:You guys still haven’t explained why it’s better to lynch in Xmas over Halloween at this point in the game. Like we can still lynch in Halloween then lynch in Xmas right after
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Probably NSG. I think it’s Baezu/SC/Eve in Halloween and then NM/NSG in Christmas.
Pedit2:
Uh why do I go before so many others? Lol
Spoiler:
Yeah, well, his play here doesn't seem scummy in a lot of ways, and if NM's about to get lynched I don't think Gob would be posting even.In post 7078, farside22 wrote:What i mean is i dont think gobble is scum.
I think the worst thing for this game is to stay stagnant, but whatever.
Yup! If this IS your scumgame I'll be surprised. I was coming up with hypotheses that scum had no cross game PT and you were trying to get Eve to NK meIn post 7080, gobbledygook wrote:Auro you know this isn’t my scum game. We can laugh about this in the dead thread when we both get nightkilled
Lol. If NM flips town, I'm definitely going to force through an Eve lynch in my game.In post 7083, gobbledygook wrote:Oh lol, I see now.
Eve > Baezu does it I think for your game. I would start with Baezu but this could be your wf gobbread that the town doesn’t want to believe. I am sad if it’s true because that means RC snowed me
Mylo just sucks cause it’s a waste of a day. I prefer towns to just immediately go into LyLo
I think Sushi was town, but Yshtola is making 0 attempt to solve the game. Every post of hers is pure fluff.In post 7088, gobbledygook wrote:I mean I feel decent enough about him now. He’s been posting genuine and organic thoughts. Rip to Yshtola with a Baezu and Sc endgame if both eve and Nm are town
Then two days later, they mislynched the slot who was trying to prevent my slot’s mislynch - Mastina. Fire quickhammered me, because he likes to do scummy shit like that. FS was spot on when she called him an honourary member of the scumteam, irrespective of alignment, or something like that.In post 7008, gobbledygook wrote:i don't see how that game relates to LyLo in this game? It seems like they quickhammered you and then a townie faked a guilty and it was pretty much gg from there?In post 7006, Trojan Horses wrote:No, literally the woatest town ever in the history of mafia.
That’s what I was wondering too, if DDL/NM was an intended bus?In post 7019, Nero Cain wrote:the whole way he's approaching roleclaiming is just scummy. And I'm having a hard time getting it out of my head that scum lie ren fusses @ town mastina about misreading his buddy, DDL.
FtfyIn post 7095, SirCakez wrote:I'm not even solving anymore