Titus v. Alisae (endgame)

[Ankamius]

now tell me

WHY DOES NOBODY DIE ON THE NIGHT THAT GOBBLE WAS SUPPOSEDLY PROTECTED BY RR?

[Ankamius]

okay

I am a Jack of All Trades (Neighborizer, Rolecop, Watcher)

Night one: Neighborized Insomnia
Night two: Rolecopped Insomnia (vanilla)
Night three: No Action
Night four: No Action
Night five: Watched Pine (nobody)

So that's why Pine didn't die. You needed a believable fakeclaim

in what universe do I claim to save the shot for night five as scum???

[Ankamius]

WHY DOES NOBODY DIE ON THE NIGHT THAT GOBBLE WAS SUPPOSEDLY PROTECTED BY RR?

RR never protected gobble, only boon afaik?

-S

RR didn't lose their bulletproof

so what happened to the kill?

[Ankamius]

*sigh*

Okay.

So tse clearly shot at me, unless lying as town for some reason, like he was lying about being a babysitter.

I'm not dead, so my bp was not removed on the night I protected FL.

So scum skipped a kill? Did someone fail to claim a block they performed, or any other protection?

-Cerb

[Ankamius]

holy shit

RR literally showed that his bulletproof is 1-shot today

there's no claimed ability to prevent kills on that night because all claimed actions have been disproven

SO THE ONLY WAY THE KILL COULD'VE BEEN STOPPED IS BY SCUM, MEANING SCUM NO KILLED

WHY WOULD SCUM NO KILL

[Ankamius]

I'll give you a hint

I've been clearing RR this game because I didn't see a plan to confirm them mechanically

IT JUST HAPPENED

[Ankamius]

TSE choosing to no venge means if RR is town, the lynch is his fault and nobody else's

this is strong evidence that RR is scum

[Ankamius]

and if you think my claim is 'too perfect,' then consider this

1. Why do you think I went out of my way to get scumread throughout the game
2. Why do you think I was so secretive about my PR, to the extent that I only willingly claimed it when my neighbor was being ran up
3. Why do you think I forcibly shut down a massclaim
4. Why do you think I CLAIMED TO HAVE A MANIPULATIVE ROLE?
5. Why do you think I wouldn't bank on a watcher shot to be my main contribution to the game when the way it progressed makes it nearly impossible for me to have contributions by play?

[Ankamius]

Scum didn’t no kill there.

why the fuck are you still debating this, scum definitely no killed

-S

Why would they no kill? Who were they soft confirming?

are you fucking serious?

[Ankamius]

I'm largely townread???

[Ankamius]

k well

I have nothing more to add

let me know when it's time to prodge

[Ankamius]

Ank to autowin this game we only need 2 town that aren't you btw

-S

go for it then?

[Ankamius]

Espeonage and Pine

[Ankamius]

I think espeonage is a safer bet but you do you

[Ankamius]

Those were TSE’s last posts of that day phase. He was clearly scum reading Ankamius and going to kill her.

If Ankamius was town, TSE would have been killed this night.

I was way wrong on AaronFrost and pushing Hectic, I don’t die that night.

just stop

[Ankamius]

FL is positing that I have a bullproof or whatever the hell

you know... someone who has claimed along the standard town JoaT path instead of the JoaT that claimed along that exact same track?

[Ankamius]

Those were TSE’s last posts of that day phase. He was clearly scum reading Ankamius and going to kill her.

If Ankamius was town, TSE would have been killed this night.

I was way wrong on AaronFrost and pushing Hectic, I don’t die that night.

[Ankamius]

Why didn't hectic use it n3 then

[Ankamius]

Its just rr

[Ankamius]

oh so the argument is that the night 4 no kill suggested Reasonably Rational protected someone with their bodyguard, but they still had their 1-shot bulletproof since they didn't die to the TrueSoulEnergy vengekill
so we know scum must have no killed, and there's a lot more reason for Reasonably Rational to do that then any other scum who doesn't even know Reasonably Rational's role at that point
i understand now

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

Correct

[Ankamius]

Pine has a not vanilla result on ank right so she can't be ascetic? That dude needs to dill out his damn caed

-S

Correct

[Ankamius]

The joats were designed around the two joats Alisae made
The loyal and disloyal friendly neighbors make the most sense from both being town
The vanilla cop has utility in finding the ninja but otherwise can mess with town via ascetic and ninja
Vengeful... idk, I'm not sure why that's in the setup

A bulletproof joat ascetic kinda stands out compared to everybody else

[Ankamius]

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

[Ankamius]

(:

always worth trying

[Ankamius]

Friendly reminder, if this does not end game then please vote fast night, thank you.

-S

[Ankamius]

it took me a while, but I finally got my shit together

[Ankamius]

thanks for modding!!!

[Ankamius]

ANK I'm so so so so so so so so sorrrryyyyy <3

you should've listened to me!!!

I was in a bad enough headspace that I was banking everything on the watch shot tbh

[Ankamius]

ftr I didn't use it all game

[Ankamius]

seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

don't claim scum

[Ankamius]

oh wait lol they claimed ascetic didn't they

yeah on page one

[Ankamius]

I knew it was a gambit almost immediately but I wasn't entirely sure WHY you were doing it

it added a lot of uncertainty where there wasn't ebfore

[Ankamius]

ANK I'm so so so so so so so so sorrrryyyyy <3

you should've listened to me!!!

I was in a bad enough headspace that I was banking everything on the watch shot tbh

tbf

if you hadn't have done that, I'd have watched you instead

I switched it to the rolecop after all that and all I would've found out is that there was a ninja

shrug

[Ankamius]

I was really mad about that at the time because of that insane push on me right afterwards but now I think I would've been even more upset if that had happened instead

[Ankamius]

Spiffeh
Bitmap
TrueSoulEnergy
Maki and Kaito
Chemist1422
Amrun
Hectic
Espeonage
Flavor Leaf
gobbledygook
Sherlock and Watson
Frozen Angel
Pine
OkaPoka
Reasonably Rational
AaronFrost

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

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tfw the wheel gave me two scum as my bottom two and the other two scum in my top 4

[Ankamius]

Before things get to crazy, I hope someone nominates OkaPoka for rising star for his play here. Oka's patience in uniting the town despite his frustrations in being told information was beyond his ability to get. Many lesser players start a coup trying to recruit players to their side. A lot of games turn on the ability of town to work together, not the accuracy of their reads. This is a perfect example. OkaPoka prevented me from falling into my traps along with my masons.

Caps off to you OkaPoka.

+1

[Ankamius]

what was the draft order?

[Ankamius]

Anything important happen in these last 18 pages, because that'll effect how closely I read it.

Anything important happen in these last 18 pages, because that'll effect how closely I read it.

We have 3+ ascetics. So, at least skim.

Claim whether you're ascetic as well please.

I am not ascetic

according to my reads lists, apparently I scumread AF off these posts

???

[Ankamius]

mfw ank's one-day long hood with insomnia lasts 7 pages

-S

ya

[Ankamius]

No, it was Frozen Angel replacing out after/during scum flip which is what she did in excalibur I just didn't want to say that

-S

-_____-

[Ankamius]

<3 Cerb

you're always fun to play with!!!

[Ankamius]

if day 5 hadn't gone exactly the way it did, I probably would never have figured it out and would've had to rely on the watcher shot to try to catch you

that was a damn ballsy play and that gets respect from me

[Ankamius]

(only relevant because I would've shielded forever etc.etc.)

[Ankamius]

jesus

even the dead thread wanted me picked as scum first

[Ankamius]

mastermind + strong presence when I have the heart for it if I had a guess

[Ankamius]

I wasn't kidding when I said I'd have loved the challenge of rolling scum

[Ankamius]

was it that one open game with the two roles+backups on opposite alignments + the vig?

[Ankamius]

the only other SvS game I remember was GIF's touhou game with the double scum neighborhood

[Ankamius]

was it that one open game with the two roles+backups on opposite alignments + the vig?

this one

and it looks like it was since some posts were apparently lost from that game

[Ankamius]

I'd still like to pre /in to whatever the next setup in this 'series' is

at least until I roll either mason or scum in one of them

[Ankamius]

X v Y

[Ankamius]

you would've felt my fury if you did looooool

[Ankamius]

My main contribution was not really doing anything other than just rolling over and getting talked over until I had confident reads loooool

[Ankamius]

I'm glad no one was legit pissed I didn't pick them. I really worried that people would react like RR did.

That's a big reason I WOTCed some people. The drama would be bad.

You're great Titus

Why would we be mad :3

[Ankamius]

Hmmmmm

This seems like a game I'm going to be studying for a while

[Ankamius]

And probably proof my town game has mostly peaked until I learn how to take proper notes

[Ankamius]

Prein me too pls

[Ankamius]

I think krazy was right in that this game went as well it did mainly because despite having so many players that are perfectly capable of going off and pushing the game into their own direction with these huge pushes that they won't back off from... it just never really happened.

Town LISTENED to each other and considered what the others were thinking and took it into account, and so we never had these huge derailing lynches that disrupt town and give scum space to hide.

The scumteam lost mainly because of this, because the type of play that the scumteam primarily utilized is hard countered by town going this route. I think that by itself is remarkably impressive, it's very rare to see towns work together like this despite how much a lot of us butted heads throughout the days.

[Ankamius]

I only kept it together because I specifically baited the scumreads to protect my PR

I walked a very precarious line and I'm glad it worked out well enough to keep me alive to help swing the last lynch

[Ankamius]

fuck getting PRs though