BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

Titus · Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:21 pm

In post 7870, Weiss Schnee wrote:No I was just saying if I was going to sabotage your credibility I'd do so differently. Frankly I don't really have a huge issue with your reads this game and Bambi trying to make it seem like we got some big beef is scummy as shit

You two read as S v S to me but I read Bambi as scum often sooo

Titus · Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:22 pm

I swear I still think Nips is scum.

I might have to target A50 on an even night

Titus · Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:26 pm

Bambi what's your RCE read?

Titus · Fri Jan 31, 2020 4:05 pm

In post 7881, Bambi Jay wrote:
In post 7879, Titus wrote:Bambi what's your RCE read?
Never that high and has a good chance of being scum.

We did tell Creature to check if he was ascetic though, and Chemist landing on Creature means he's probably town, so I'm waiting for him to show up.

Great vote RCE.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:03 am

In post 7988, Weiss Schnee wrote:actually ascetic on titus probably is scum motivated, gives scum permission to kill titus without blaming joan while also preventing town from leashing her targets and getting good results

I definitely agree on the lashing part. Instead of targeting town, I have to target scum.

I'm ascetic though which means the enchantress can't target me. Given that I cannot be healed, I am debating saying my target straight out.

The only way scum can frame someone is by killing me directly. That's a suboptimal move for them.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:04 am

@Joan, Why are the two nights you targeted me the two nights I got modifiers? I still think you're town, but thinking your town doesn't excuse asking the hard questions.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:09 am

In post 7976, Weiss Schnee wrote:wait so how many missing actions are we dealing with? Creature n1 and Titus n... 2?

My action is missing each day otherwise I am dead. I was made desperate n1. Originally I was a neighborizer. That means my actions only succeed on scum or killers etc but kill me.

A50 being enchanted n1 made the most sense to me, as Nips is off the charts scum. I would have just targeted Nips directly on n3 but that's a dead Titus.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:10 am

In post 7979, Weiss Schnee wrote:
In post 7978, RCEnigma wrote:Titus targeted Nancy n2.
and this failed because nancy was not in a hood afterward?

Correct. I targeted obvtown n2.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:52 am

In post 8002, Weiss Schnee wrote:So the hider is mechanically confirmed a hider and the town 4th town protective claim when voyeur'd looks like a enchantress

I got that right?

There's two tpr claims not 4.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:54 am

I am investigating Joan due to the sheer townbeard spam here.

Joan is never flipping scum here. Period.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:55 am

In post 8007, Bambi Jay wrote:?

Is that really a good idea tho?

Well I can't shut up the mislynch Joan spam, so I have to prove her town.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:00 am

In post 8009, Weiss Schnee wrote:But you're dying Titus...

Exactly, so give me today on Joan. If I don't lynch scum today, take her tmo.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:01 am

Mod: Is two a prime number?

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:10 am

In post 8013, Weiss Schnee wrote:Which posts spew her town?

Aaron interfering with her hood. Her town meta. Her healing me because she knows who I am. I went over this with Nancy yesterday.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:10 am

In post 8015, Weiss Schnee wrote:
In post 7996, Chemist1422 wrote:Chemist1442
CLAIM: Odd-night Weak Hider
N1: No action. Received loyal (was not informed of this until N2, presumably due to moderror)
N2: Received message, presumably from Fonz, giving me a code to soft my target and telling me to namecheck a rapper in my first post if I got it (hence the DK rap)
N3: Targeted Creature. Received Dirty Laundry

I think that’s it?
Why would you NA n1 as a weak hider? This was already discussed right yu can link me if it has

It was a claimed lurked out IRL thing

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:11 am

I kinda don't get why hider was not shut off.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:14 am

In post 8021, Weiss Schnee wrote:
In post 8016, Titus wrote:
In post 8013, Weiss Schnee wrote:Which posts spew her town?
Aaron interfering with her hood. Her town meta. Her healing me because she knows who I am. I went over this with Nancy yesterday.
where was aaron's interference with her hood discussed?

Ad nauseam but the thread is so big. The tunnelers say Aaron wanted a hood with Joan and Drew out of the way.

I disagree but if I am wrong, Joan's partner is in those on d2 that wanted Drew but not Joan.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:16 am

In post 8023, Weiss Schnee wrote:
In post 7996, Chemist1422 wrote:Chemist1442
CLAIM: Odd-night Weak Hider
N1: No action. Received loyal (was not informed of this until N2, presumably due to moderror)
N2: Received message, presumably from Fonz, giving me a code to soft my target and telling me to namecheck a rapper in my first post if I got it (hence the DK rap)
N3: Targeted Creature. Received Dirty Laundry

I think that’s it?
He says he started as weak?

Let me check the CC. Hold on.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:22 am

In post 8026, Weiss Schnee wrote:If he started as weak then he is more invest than protective

so babysitter + rolestopper + ub + [1 shot roleblock] .
stinky doc claim

UB is not factored as a protective. Drew could have gotten anything.

One shot rb isn't a cc factor although I may want to check who the joat is.

Chkflip is a probable protective.

We also have a bunch of cops and cop investigators.

Quantity alone is a terrible reason for an SR here.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:22 am

UB is much more likely to get a cop

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:24 am

In post 8032, Weiss Schnee wrote:Yeah it's kinda an insane role

Adds masons to hoods, can replace vigs... Whatever town dumps on first

Yup. Like I said. Table Joan today. You can lynch her tmo after I die. I'll vote her tmo if I live and I'm wrong today.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:27 am

Chemist, what modifiers did you start out with, if any? Not in theory how your role functions.

Are you weak or just a hider who dies on targeting scum?

@Weiss, which do you think is scummiest?

@A50, Holding my response.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:36 am

I'm going to do a rare reread of certain parts today I hope.

@A50, Can I respond to your claim post?

@Weiss, Desperate is like weak but the action succeeds.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 5:58 am

In post 8059, Weiss Schnee wrote:Did you ask boon how weak and desperate would interact with symbiote?

If the setup otherwise confirms enchantress then yeah he should be clear I think, we do need to rule out scum roleblocker + symbiote tho otherwise

I'll ask this after breakfast.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:55 am

In post 8080, Weiss Schnee wrote:If titus received ascetic last night would your track fail or would receiving ascetic onky cause ascetic to activate the next day? I guess probably same night activation?

99.9% sure creature was blocked since my desperate worked like that on my role.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:21 am

In post 8088, Weiss Schnee wrote:In any case creature is not enchantress/scum alien/scum rolestiop

I actually think Joan might be the renegade.

RCE might be a scum symbiote or targeted by one. Thus explaining his ascetic.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:22 am

Of course I am probably worn down by this point.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:29 am

In post 8093, Weiss Schnee wrote:No symbiote, no enchantess

Scum can have an alien I think that's just normal shit

Boon bank role is renegade tho right?

Multiple boon banks can exist. They take up variants.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:30 am

In post 1, Boonskiies wrote:BooneyToonz Rolebook: Any Roles.
Boon Bank: 1 role.
Variants: 1 variant for mini, 2 variants for large. These variants can be an additional Boon Bank role.
ContraBoon'd: Never acceptable.

So we have Aaron as one variant.

We can have 2 more boon bank/variants

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:33 am

In post 8095, Weiss Schnee wrote:Ahh fuck yeah second variant

I'm thinking RCE claimed scum to the opposition team as symbiote target. Not sure. Thoughts?

Claim: Neighborizer
N1: A50, made desperate before targeting role stays with, got dead fish
N2: Venus and Mars
N3: A50 (bc I am convinced Nips is scum but miller fake means auto death), made ascetic

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:37 am

In post 8102, Weiss Schnee wrote:Weird that you did a50 twice but I dunno why you'd lie about that as scum so w/e

I am that convinced Nips is scum by VCA.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:49 am

In post 8110, 50 Judge Powers wrote:Wait, so Joan ALSO crumbed Renegade with her Robb "whatever" Video, and we're still arguing about her alignment?? GEEZ!

Yes but you know what I am done with this game. After Joan flips town, we lynch Nips.

VOTE: Joan

Mechanics wise, she makes sense as renegade. She's not that complicated though.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:49 am

I legit think you don't understand your role A50.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:55 am

Nips didn't cc chk50 who faked Miller until after A50 "cleared" him.

VOTE: RCE

Of course moonlogic is Davesaz and chemist scum so each "team" has an investigative.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:56 am

In post 8128, Weiss Schnee wrote:maybe even "split" renegade since 2 mods n1?)

RCE might be just symbiotic though.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:15 am

RCE must be lying if scum have an enchantress.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:16 am

In post 8133, Weiss Schnee wrote:CONSEQUENCE
Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Nancy is Boon Bank Role #1
Variant #2 is either a Renegade or a Split Renegade depending on whether RCE is lying or not

Let's lynch RCE and find out. I kinda think the ascetic thing was to frame me.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:18 am

We can't have a multi target giver. So unless renegade can act twice on it's own, RCE is lying.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:24 am

In post 8140, Weiss Schnee wrote:Aaron is flipped Variant #1
Nancy is Boon #1
Renegade scum is variant #2 (maybe even "split" renegade since 2 mods n1?)

no renegade actions claimed for n2 huh?

any of the dead townies claim receiving any mods?

No renegade for n2. I think Chemist is mistaken about mod timing.

No second modifier for n3 given out.

Only me RCE and chemist got them as far as I know.

Titus · Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:10 pm

I think we need another wall of claims again.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:34 am

In post 8251, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8247, RCEnigma wrote:Why's A50 better than Joan fishy?
Just going off of Titus.

As much as I know Nips is scum, mechanically A50 is a bad vote ATM.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:35 am

In post 8233, Weiss Schnee wrote:Dave-->Haggle-->Chemist-->Creature

4 man party train lol

Dave confirms haggle who confirms chemist who confirms creature

"confirms" here being contingent on a bunch of mech bullshit but it's still pretty funny

I'm not sure these are alignment confirms. I want them to be to get at Nips but I'm not sure.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:07 am

Mod: Do multiple copies of the same Boonbank role take up two variant slots?

If that answer is no, I don't see how RCE and I can both be town.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:31 am

In post 8258, Haggle wrote:Bambi + Joan + Amrun + Fishy??? Throw in Enigma as dessert.

-Hectic

How do you explain both RCE and I having Renegaded claims then?

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:59 am

In post 4267, RCEnigma wrote:I don't know. First thought was attempting to discredit Titus' claim but she's lined up with Titus gameview and isn't pushing that angle.

So it sticks out as an odd comment but I haven't been able to parse it.

Proof Amrun's trajectory was in her ISO for ages btw

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:00 am

Haggle, what I meant there is we should eat dessert first as it's the only thing we know not to be poisoned.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:16 am

In post 8264, Weiss Schnee wrote:But chemist also claims to have been renegaded n1 which makes no sense

Rce can be scum but doing the guy with the stinky rengaded claim vs the slot that is what obviously the renegade makes no sense to me

Like we can get joan's flip and that will probably tell us more about what this renegade was or wasn't capable of

To me, Joan isn't obviously the renegade. She claimed to visit me after Creature's track. Why make herself look bad?

Like if you're going to lynch Joan do it. But I don't think it's a good lynch. If I am wrong, I can compare to who else is voting with me.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:37 am

In post 8266, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 8265, Titus wrote:
In post 8264, Weiss Schnee wrote:But chemist also claims to have been renegaded n1 which makes no sense

Rce can be scum but doing the guy with the stinky rengaded claim vs the slot that is what obviously the renegade makes no sense to me

Like we can get joan's flip and that will probably tell us more about what this renegade was or wasn't capable of
To me, Joan isn't obviously the renegade. She claimed to visit me after Creature's track. Why make herself look bad?

Like if you're going to lynch Joan do it. But I don't think it's a good lynch. If I am wrong, I can compare to who else is voting with me.
Do you think or do you know its a bad lynch.

Think very strongly. I don't have special information saying it is. I just have the most meta with her.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:39 am

Basically, it's you are respectfully wrong but the game must progress. I'd hate for her to be the lylo mislynch.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:30 am

In post 8270, Weiss Schnee wrote:Also I think she's the last variant and I reallly want variant shit out of the game so mech can make sense

If you get her to l minus 1, I will hammer to move along the game. I just think RCE is the better lynch.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:20 am

In post 8276, davesaz wrote:Titus, please explain what you're seeing for RCE scum. I think you may have found something but neglected to fill in the blanks on what the something is.

Ok.

We know Aaron is a variant.
We know Venus and Mars was a Boon Bank.
Renegade is a Boon Bank.

So how do RCE and Chemist get modifiers n1 unless a Boon Bank role is allowed to exist multiple times? Two Boon Banks is the max for a large.

One of the vendors should vend RCE and Bambi watch if we don't lynch him.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:59 am

In post 8289, 50 Judge Powers wrote:
In post 8234, Bambi Jay wrote:VOTE: Enigma

Following Titus seema like a better plan for now, so I'll stick with this one.
Please.. PRETTY PLEASE.. Make note of this after Joan flips SCUM! Don't let this sneaky ******* charm his/her way to yet another scum,

Can you just be quiet? You're not helping but spamming.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:01 pm

In post 8292, Weiss Schnee wrote:Bambi Green Flip confirms Chemist-Creature are same alignment

Explain please.

Titus · Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:08 pm

In post 8294, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 8293, Titus wrote:
In post 8292, Weiss Schnee wrote:Bambi Green Flip confirms Chemist-Creature are same alignment
Explain please.
Bambi confirms chemist hid behind creature. On a Bambi!town flip that's a true check.

A scum hider can be a thing. Only the action is confirmed.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:00 am

In post 8298, Amrun wrote:Why would a scum hider ever exist?

To find scum. Just make it disloyal instead.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:01 am

In post 8300, Emperor flippyNips wrote:I’m a miller btw

Your fakeclaim after A50s altered claim is known.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:02 am

In post 8306, Bambi Jay wrote:Everyone went bye bye. Hmm.

Nobody even wants to discuss anything else?

Pretty sure not. I mean RCE is practically lock scum but we're lynching the doc and sacrificing me.

VOTE: Joan

Goodbye town. Good luck.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:10 am

In post 8311, Weiss Schnee wrote:Redflip RCE --> BEF?

Greenflip RCE --> ?

Well my ideal is still Nips, no matter what but I am not getting it. I am mature about that.

My best ideal lynch will be unlocked when I know what scum knew and when they knew it.

Joan is a terrible lynch. I am just doing it to move the game forward.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:11 am

*best lynch = best plausible lynch

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:25 am

In post 8315, Weiss Schnee wrote:Amrun-->RCE, Bambi-->RCE
BEF-->Weiss/Dave?
Creature left to his own devices?

Amrun I trust.

BEF to RCE.

Amrun to RCE/Dave/Weiss.

Creature is ok to track wherever.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:31 am

In post 8317, Weiss Schnee wrote:Not trusting bef is kinda why I want him on me or dave, since I think beither of us die tonight and neither is ascetic

Sending him to rce where rce is asc (because he started game ascetic or got it as a mod) leaves his action unaccounted for

The thing is Amrun will be framed if she's on the ascetic. BEF has the RCE "clear".

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:45 am

In post 8319, Weiss Schnee wrote:Fair. Just so long as both aren't on rce. I'm fine with bef on rce, amrun off

I'm good with that.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:05 am

In post 8321, Joan of Arc wrote:Let it be known that Titus has betrayed our friendship. I do not forget. I do not forgive. >.>

Can we stop this type of comment please? It's dirty regardless of alignment.

Joan, there's only so much I can do when scum get bad vouches.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:19 am

Well goodbye town.

I am hiding behind Amrun since I can't be interfered with.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:20 am

In post 8328, Titus wrote:Well goodbye town.

I am hiding behind Amrun since I can't be interfered with.

By hiding I mean neighborizing. I am tired.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:23 am

In post 8330, Weiss Schnee wrote:Wait is there a chance dave is asc?

Maybe am is on me or uhhhh someone else who isn't gonna die and isn't ascetic.

He never claimed it.

Amrun can be on you or daves.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:26 am

In post 8333, Joan of Arc wrote:
In post 8331, Weiss Schnee wrote:Joan u were scum ya?
I am mad at Titus is all I am. She knows why.

So you game threw by self hammering because I wouldn't let you into Titus v Alisae because you lurk, sub out, and gamethrow...

And then you reference it unambiguously.

Holy shit. I'm done.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:29 am

In post 8338, Weiss Schnee wrote:Titus, assuming you're dying here, it was really nice playing with you! *hug*

Nice playing with you too.

Still not sure you're town but fun either way.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:34 am

In post 8340, Joan of Arc wrote:I didn't gamethrow and that game is not ongoing yet, so I am allowed to reference it.

Not to leverage my vote or action somewhere on site.

@Bambi Go ahead.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:47 pm

In post 8355, 50 Judge Powers wrote:FINALLY!

In post 8356, 50 Judge Powers wrote:P.S. Bambi is still scum, btw

You yelled and berated causing Nancy to snap and bomb town, can't understand your own pm and lynched town.

Now, I'll die and you'll keep on doing it rather than looking at common fucking sense to find the renegade.

A real fucking Miller doesn't play like Nips. Reread your PM until you solve it. Lying like this protects scum and throws games. Akatsuki did it for LLD. I thought you were better.

Plus, Nips isn't even playing.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:48 pm

I'm just glad I'll be out of this game where I've been spoken at rather than spoken to.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:50 pm

Mod: Please replace Nips. It's impossible to scumhunt a slot that isn't playing.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:40 pm

In post 8362, RCEnigma wrote:I feel like doc drew.

Tbh, I do too but until we get the renegade flipped, it won't matter.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:32 pm

While I appreciate the request for self-stimulation fifty times over, I'm afraid I would become too arrogant. So A50, I decline your request for excessive masturbation. If you place a more reasonable request in a moderate volume and in a moderate tone, I may just be inclined to grant such a request.

Haggle, I am afraid you are sorely mistaken. For it is I, the lawyer, that is the law in this situation. The judge unfortunately lacks jurisdiction.

It's just unfortunate no one likes the facts around here. After Joan flips, most everyone will be proven not the renegade but Nips. A50, allegedly knowing the slot was town, did nothing to find a vocal spokesperson for the slot. I have to wonder why.

Elsa, I hope you replace Nips.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:47 pm

In post 8396, Weiss Schnee wrote:Titus before you die can you briefly remind me why I should not actually waste my time thinking about dave's alignment tomorrow?

I can't. I have little doubt in his claim of gunsmith. It's his alignment that's uncertain. It makes sense to give each scum pair a cop or cop ish role on balance.

I have very few lock clears in this game. A50 is mechanically clearish. I mean technically he could be immune to my actions somehow but that's stretching it. I just can't work with him when his priorities and objectives are so skewed and he gets so brash and insulting about it.

I just feel that so many people are apathetic because of the "clear" situation that no one's actually pushing on players who may be scum because LOL cleared. It's all going on in the background and passive aggressive. I feel like pulling teeth just to talk.

If it wasn't for the nips clear, we would be lynching him and not Joan.

I'm not sure how Elsa Jay is posting here btw.

Titus · Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:30 pm

Well I was looking for someone who said Drew with a vig shot would be bad, but I couldn't find that.

Titus · Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:49 am

Calling it now, the mod is Joan siding.

Titus · Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:41 pm

GG

Still think Nips needed replacing and it was real anti-town not to get that.

Second, added modifiers should be shown on flips.

Like this modifier was added kind of deal.

Titus · Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:42 pm

Still don't take away that most everyone played well in a hard fought game.

Titus · Sun Mar 01, 2020 12:42 pm

In post 9627, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Weiss deserves some kind of paragon, not sure which one.

Happy Birthday!

Titus · Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:21 pm

In post 9630, Bambi Jay wrote:Guess relying on everyone ignoring Creature after I died wasn't the best plan.

I tried to make this interesting for town to solve. Hope you all had fun with all the shenanigans that happened.

I respect your scumgame.

Separately, can you not post as two accounts in the same game? That got unnecessarily confusing.

Titus · Sun Mar 01, 2020 1:50 pm

In post 9647, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 9645, Titus wrote:
In post 9630, Bambi Jay wrote:Guess relying on everyone ignoring Creature after I died wasn't the best plan.

I tried to make this interesting for town to solve. Hope you all had fun with all the shenanigans that happened.
I respect your scumgame.

Separately, can you not post as two accounts in the same game? That got unnecessarily confusing.
When they both have Jay in it, it's not that bad to realize its the same person? But I usually do it only for a joke and not to actually confuse people.

I'll take that as a future note not to do it if your the mod tho.

I'm very very literal. For the record, I wouldn't allow any alt to do that FYI.

My brother is also here (hi Mathblade), so the closest I get by last name is related.