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Aww, I suck again.In post 36, pisskop wrote:
maybe next time be a cool enough guy to be invitedIn post 25, Yodavader wrote:Hello everybody. VOTE: pisskop because you are at the top of the player list and I wanted that spot.-
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I played an okay amount back in the day (2006-2008) on WotC boards and then just fell out of Mafia for a while, mostly because I didn't do forums and also I didn't like IRL Mafia games. I recently gained a lot of time on my hands with my current job so I decided to give forums Mafia a go again. I don't foresee anything that would stop me from completing this game, unless this game goes on for like 5 months or so. Do larger games last that long?In post 56, Alchemist21 wrote:I'm noticing a lot of 2019 join dates. I'm hoping people don't get overwhelmed by the post volume and we don't end up in situation where half the game is getting replaced.-
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In post 141, Crimson97 wrote:BTW there is a vanillaizer in the game.
I second this post. A lot of these roles are new to me so please explain.In post 143, Lavender wrote:
What is a vanillaizer?In post 141, Crimson97 wrote:BTW there is a vanillaizer in the game.
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Cool, thanks. I kinda figured that was what it was going to be but wanted to make sure.In post 175, Blatant Scum wrote:https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Vanillaiser
This is a good source.
Now, why does Crimson think (know?) that there is one in the game.-
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So, trying to catch up on what is going on here. There are a lot of new terms and acronyms but I think I am getting the hang of it.
My thoughts on this whole yurkin situation:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I have always thought that FoS's, in the end, really didn't mean anything. It doesn't get counted as a vote but more of a "I got my eye on you and you're leaning scummy but I want to wait to see what happens." But I do find that an FoS during the RVS is strange and a little jumpy.
Another thing that I find weird is that yurkin claims doublevoter but going through his posts, I can only see that he ever only put 1 vote out there. I don't know why he claimed doublevoter if he wasn't going to doublevote.
I'm not the official vote counter, but I count that as +1, -1, +1. Or did I miss a vote somewhere.In post 252, yurkin wrote:
No you're being too stubbornIn post 250, Alchemist21 wrote:
You’re just bullshitting at this point. You know that FOS is indefensible; that’s why when pressed on it you tried to shift focus away from it to your RVS actions and citing this unspecified reason when you couldn’t shift the focus.In post 249, yurkin wrote:
It doesn't concerns youIn post 247, Alchemist21 wrote:What is that reason?
VOTE: very cool and not mafia
I'm double voter, gj making me claim-
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ok. I didn't know if that was the case or if you could split your votes.In post 300, yurkin wrote:1 count as 2, not two separate votes-
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Ok, I get that now too. Then, yes, it does look odd, since yurkin had a free vote (unless his RVS was a real vote, but I'm sure it was an RVS vote) but chose to FoS instead. Unless the person (me, in this case as the FoS recipient) is at L-1, or L-2 in your case as double voter, a vote should have been placed instead of an FoS. I think I got that straight.In post 303, Very cool and not mafia wrote:
they are, i was fos'ing you this entire time. fos is pressuring someone without voting.In post 301, yurkin wrote:
I think =.=In post 300, yurkin wrote:1 count as 2, not two separate votes
Finally someone acknowledges FoS and vote are different entities, ty yoda
you havent voted, so fos on someone looks really odd
On a side note, I should really work on my parenthesis and comma usages. That hurt my head trying to make it work without using all commas.-
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Answering the prod. Sorry, I have been here but this game is a lot more intricate than I am used to. For now, the only thing that I know is that yurkin is probably not scum because I don't know if scum would have a double voter PR. I think that would be too overpowered. I'll go back through and try to figure some stuff out.-
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That would be correct.In post 442, Gamma Emerald wrote:
WotC = Wizards of the Coast right?In post 57, Yodavader wrote:
I played an okay amount back in the day (2006-2008) on WotC boards and then just fell out of Mafia for a while, mostly because I didn't do forums and also I didn't like IRL Mafia games. I recently gained a lot of time on my hands with my current job so I decided to give forums Mafia a go again. I don't foresee anything that would stop me from completing this game, unless this game goes on for like 5 months or so. Do larger games last that long?In post 56, Alchemist21 wrote:I'm noticing a lot of 2019 join dates. I'm hoping people don't get overwhelmed by the post volume and we don't end up in situation where half the game is getting replaced.-
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In post 505, Blatant Scum wrote:
Elaborate.In post 501, Yodavader wrote:I'm on the pins and needles
Flubber hasn't responded with what he's found yet, so as Gru said in Despicable Me "I'm on the pins and needles."In post 465, Flubbernugget wrote:Yo i finally found something that caught my interest you fuckers need to post now-
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Doctor Drew wrote:Wait, when did I miss a Mason claim?
Though I think this was more of a joke statement.In post 15, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:Yeah Me.
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When you say that you will hammer at L-1, would you announce intent to hammer or just hammer?In post 504, Wake1 wrote:*Doesn't know much if anything about the bands here.
*Doesn't remember any of the player their styles.
*Can't read the pink text on my phone.
*Thinking the Masons claim is probably a bluff.
*Day 1 sucks. I'll hammer whoever reaches L -1 first.
*Come at me Bro.
Why?
Sorry for my newbness but what's LHF?Egix96 wrote:In post 579, Doctor Drew wrote:
Can't shake the feeling that they are scum.In post 574, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why Lavender
Give me a second and I will post the quote tree, but didn't like the interactions (which led me to vote Crimson).
But, skimming Lavenders iso......really seems like someone trying to be VI.
Pre Edit: So, drunky........yes you do??
I'm not getting good vibes from this push on Lavender.In post 595, Doctor Drew wrote:
Gamma, this is what I was talking about.In post 72, Doctor Drew wrote:
This whole interaction gives me the heebie-jeebiesIn post 71, Lavender wrote:
Maybe so maybe notz.In post 65, Egix96 wrote:
EhIn post 60, Lavender wrote:
I am not scum, because you are scum.In post 12, Crimson97 wrote:You are all scum. Change my mind.
VOTE: Crimson97
Crimson's post actually feels towny to me
VOTE: Lavender
I just hate every post lavender has made since, and including, this.
VOTE: lavender
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ok, thanks.In post 605, Gamma Emerald wrote:Low hanging fruit-
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Aw, I wanna be cool and get the reference. A hint maybe?
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So, a Goon that is town, forcing a PR role onto another player that you also force to be jailed, and also redirecting a night action? Thanks, my head hurts now.
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I don't know if this is needed or not but UNVOTE: . I had PK as a random to start the game and kept it on him because I didn't like the shitposting that was going on but when I think about it, I don't think that he is the best place to keep my vote.
I don't like voting for a person who is about to be replaced without the replacement having a chance to play, at least with a couple of IRL days left before the end of the day.-
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Are you saying that you found EmperorFN scummy before and don't want to vote him now because he's replacing out, or do you have someone else who is more deserving of your vote?In post 843, Looker wrote:In post 830, Yodavader wrote:I don't know if this is needed or not but UNVOTE: . I had PK as a random to start the game and kept it on him because I didn't like the shitposting that was going on but when I think about it, I don't think that he is the best place to keep my vote.
I don't like voting for a person who is about to be replaced without the replacement having a chance to play, at least with a couple of IRL days left before the end of the day.
I was on fence between EFN and PK and the more I though about it, the less I found PK scummy but didn't want to place a vote on EFN's slot because he was going to be replaced out and I would like to see how his replacement plays. That's just my rational. Though I know that I have to take EFN's play into consideration, I do try and give the benefit of the doubt to the person replacing in.-
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May I ask why?
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That was what I still believe to be RVS. So to me, it really didn't even register. I guess people's votes in that time frame could be given a pass as to having a reason or not, even if it's a BS reason.In post 1033, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:@Yoda
Why didn’t you push on this then?
What I don't like about Titus' play is that they have now had 2 votes thrown out for no apparent reason since they have replaced in. I guess I've never liked that type of play, outside RVS.-
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Ok. I would assume then that in smaller games, you would actually try on D1?In post 1049, Titus wrote:Yoda, Day 1 in a game this size to me is RVS.
I'm learning a lot and yet it's still a lot more to take in, especially for a person who sucks at reading people and trying not to just sheep votes.-
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There's so many new phrases popping up and so fast, I'll have to spend a bit just trying to decipher all of them.
As for why I voted for Lavender, as I stated in my vote post, it was close to EoD and I just wanted to make sure that there was a lynch and yours had the most traction at the time. I hate no lynches. I try not to sheep votes until it gets close to EoD.-
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Man, this game is moving fast. Well, for me at least. I'm sure it's quite normal for most of you guys or even on the slower side.
I don't see why you would not want to vote, since he isn't at L-1 and I don't think a lolhammer is going to fall in this game. Also, wouldn't this just be an FoS?
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I guess what I don't get is that you aren't going to have anyone claim if you don't put actual pressure on them. At the last VC, Egix was still at L-4 or something like that. Your vote would not make it to the point where he would need to claim. I think that the way most people play is that they don't claim until they are at L-1 and usually not without someone intending to hammer.In post 1720, JacksonVirgo wrote:
I just googled FoS and that is EXACTLY what I am doing and I am explaining it in the WORST way I could have possibly done lmfao.In post 1719, Yodavader wrote:Man, this game is moving fast. Well, for me at least. I'm sure it's quite normal for most of you guys or even on the slower side.
I don't see why you would not want to vote, since he isn't at L-1 and I don't think a lolhammer is going to fall in this game. Also, wouldn't this just be an FoS?
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I don't feel like I need to claim anything yet.In post 1807, Blatant Scum wrote:TSE, Gamma, Looker and Yadavader should claim their flavor.-
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This game seems to be full of roles, would a scum tracker be useful? I guess I don't know many of the possible visitation roles out there, besides the basic doc and cop, and now PT cop.In post 1839, Blatant Scum wrote:How common are mafia trackers?-
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I understand but I always like to keep my hands close to my chest. So, unless there is reason for me to claim anything right now, I much prefer to stay silent on this issue.In post 1868, Blatant Scum wrote:
Flubber - simple check from Flavour Cop is not going to persuade town to believe he is town.In post 1865, TrueSoulEnergy wrote:
But why those?In post 1863, Blatant Scum wrote:
Asking scummy/ heavy NAI players to out their flavours so flavour cop can do his job.In post 1862, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What the fick is this btwIn post 1807, Blatant Scum wrote:TSE, Gamma, Looker and Yadavader should claim their flavor.
And Flubbernugget, Egix, Drew and Alchemist are all fine?
Egix - I agree here with you, this one could be in that set
Drew - There are few people townreading him, I am not sure if scum would want to come play this game while drunk, risking scumslip (this gives him townlean for me, not more, not less)
Alchemist - seems like obv town to me?
TSE - tracker claim (so lynching this is bad idea), but has illogical statements
Gamma - lurking
Looker/ Yadavader - they are both NAI to me and in shadow. Very likely to survive till endgame and not townreaded => good TI check
I hope things get better for you. I know how hard mental health issues are. I spent 10 years with depression all the while thinking I was okay.In post 1873, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm sorry, my mental health has destroyed me the past few days and it's hit harder because I thought that those days were behind me. If I were to continue playing here I would only be a detriment to everybody as I slowly become less and less active so I think it's probably best for myself and everyone playing, that I replace out. Thanks for the fun game so far everyone
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I don't think there is a need to do that. Also PCS as in Permanent Change of Station, i.e military move to another post?In post 1888, Looker wrote:Happy holidays; I'm in the middle of a PCS, so I apologize for not having more frequent access. I'll claim, vote, do pretty much whatever at this point - I'm just desperate to find a place to stay.-
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I'm very skiddish about speaking out. I don't want to make a scene, mostly because I'm afraid that what I will say won't come out correctly and I know that I am very bad at a 1v1 argument.In post 2144, Creature wrote:Also if you open YodaVader's ISO you'll see a lot of talking that isn't even scumhunting as opposed to what a new site joiner would do
As you can see from my "attempt" at Blatant, I don't know how to push the argument of why he won't tell me who he targeted because I don't want to be the guy that pushed a wagon on a claimed Doc. I still would like to try and figure out if the Doc claim is true but can't figure out a way to properly say it without coming off scummy.-
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Yes, if you look at my games, I am usually one of the bottom in terms of post count. I don't talk much but I try to follow as best I can. I'm not good at all at scum hunting so I look at other people's arguments and decide from there who has the best reasons. I'm usually one of the middle to last people on wagons. I try not to sheep but I end up doing it a lot.-
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Fine, if you must know, though I am doing this under protest. As I said before, I much prefer to keep all my cards close to my chest.
I am Paul Bostaph, drummer for Slayer from 1992–1996, 1997–2001, and since 2013.
I am a Bodyguard. Though I guess not a very good one. There is a randomness to my ability. I choose 3 people and get randomized to one of them. My ability only works against NK's, so if I am understanding this, any other ability passes right through me, like investigative, other protective, etc.
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Well, now I have a whole list of people to try and protect.In post 2529, Blatant Scum wrote:Hey, at least try protecting doc claim next time.-
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I don't think they would be able to steal powers since yurkin was vanilised, there hasn't been a new double voter.In post 2656, Blatant Scum wrote:
I asked this mod and I think that this might be relevant.Does Vanillaizer know if he succeeds?
Vanillaizer is informed their power worked (it would be complicated for me to go further into detail about this).
Chances are that Vanillaizer can steal the power he drains, or at least get a piece of information about who he drained.-
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At this point in the game, wouldn't as much information as possible help catch scum?In post 2703, Doctor Drew wrote:I never said my role was super duper guaranteed game winning powerful, just that it is stupid and anti-town to reveal it.
Can you help me see how he let slip that he knew Drew's alignment? I'm not seeing it.In post 2705, Looker wrote:
Where did I tunnel Titus? I don't recall doing that. I suspected him because, as stated in Post 2674, "I didn't trust the cover of claims that was going around - I thought yours and pisskop's claim was the least confirmable."In post 2701, chennisden wrote:For starters why did you tunnel Titus
In post 2702, chennisden wrote:Do you have a good reason to believe his role is not valuable
And if so
Why does his bluff make him scum- I felt he was over-exaggerating the value of his role because, as stated in Post 2700, "If it was that great, I doubt we'd have four dead Town in a row."
- I never said Drew was scum or that his bluff implied as much. This is the second time you've potentially let slip foreknowledge of someone's role/alignment. First with Flubbernugget, now with Doctor Drew
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In post 2033, Blatant Scum wrote:
I have a very good reason to not make that information public.In post 2032, Yodavader wrote:@Blatant
Just going over your ISO. Are you willing or able to tell me who you targeted last night? I'm trying to figure out if I believe the Doc claim or not.I didn't know that Doc's could target themselves. I assume this is the reason you didn't want to tell us who you targeted.
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That makes me more suspicious. A claimed Doc that can target himself who should be a nice night kill for scum that is still alive and doesn't tell anyone until the next day that he was vanillized.In post 2813, Titus wrote:
Normally they can't.In post 2810, Yodavader wrote:In post 2033, Blatant Scum wrote:
I have a very good reason to not make that information public.In post 2032, Yodavader wrote:@Blatant
Just going over your ISO. Are you willing or able to tell me who you targeted last night? I'm trying to figure out if I believe the Doc claim or not.I didn't know that Doc's could target themselves. I assume this is the reason you didn't want to tell us who you targeted.
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yurkin was conf doublevoter by VC and vanilized by VCIn post 2917, gobbledygook wrote:Was Yurkin proven to be a double voter before being vanilllized?
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I'm having a hard time choosing from Alch, Drew, Creature, and Blatant.
Between Alch and Drew, I'm sure one of them is lying. Though I tend to believe investigatives.
I still don't know if I fully believe Blatant. Again, a prime scum kill N1 since he claimed Doc and nothing happened to him. The last time I played with someone who I thought was a prime scum target at night that didn't get killed that night turned out to be scum, so that's what keeps Blatant on my list. I know that this is a different game and all but it still sits on the back of my mind.
I just didn't like the brashness of Creatures claim push. Seems a perfect way to get targets on the most powerful remaining PRs.
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