Monty Python's Mafia Circus Game Over

[JordanA24]

This game is just too silly

Vote: The Game

[JordanA24]

Unvote: The Game
Vote: farside22

Obviously the most silly...

[JordanA24]

Vote: Jordan

for not being silly.

On a side note. I propose a little hunt. What are we hunting for? Why, my role of course. I will give you a clue as to where it is. It is located in the episode "The Ant, An Introduction"

Good Luck.

Why are you telling us part of your role already, on Page 4??

FOS: IronMan

But I think the worse crime is actually trying to guess what his role is, rolefishing at it's most blatent! Imaginality, Pokerface and The Internet (who guessed 4). Since Internet guessed the most, I'll put my first serious vote of the game on him

Unvote Vote: The Internet

He probably gets some kinda prizes or we explode. Its python, afterall.

lol, I can actually see that happening

A prize? You mean like a 16-tom-weight to drop on us when we attack him with a raspberry?

lol, lets hope we don't accidently release the tiger

I am not random voting because this is chaos and I'm confused

I don't like this either, though tbh, it's not as bad as Internet's rolefishing.

[JordanA24]

The Not-So FlavorfulVote Count:

JordanA24

(4) Azimuth, The Internet, farside22, Iron Man

imaginality

(5) TheSweatpantsNinja, strappado, elvis_knits

I'm intrigued by the fact that Bruce has 4 votes but is coloured red, suggesting he will be lynched if the votes stay as they are at present, even though I (somehow) have five votes against me. I'm wondering if Bruce is maybe a 'hated townie' (one less vote needed to lynch) or something of that sort.

I should hope not Bruce

[JordanA24]

Catch-up post time, was unexpectedly pretty much afk for the past few days, eeeep at how fast the games moving lol. Typing as I read, apologies if I start parroting other people (pun intended).

I still say we get rid of Imaginality to eliminate the Bruce confusion.

Having a PR is not scummy, therefore it's a terrible reason to lynch someone.

FOS: strappado

LATER AMENDMENT TO THIS POINT: Why target only Imaginality for your vote when others (eg. Lord Gurgi) also have PR's, especially since LG's PR is, if anything, more annoying and makes him less useful as Imaginality.

Iron Man: The announcer is not unique to that sketch. I don't think I buy your claim. Why did you feel the need to make us guess it?

Quite a lot of MP charachters are not unique to one sketch, even some one the more well known ones (eg. Mr.Praline, the dead parrot guy). If that's your only reason for not believing the claim, then it's not a very good one.

To tell the truth, I was bored and was looking for some fun.

Since this is Monty Python mafia, I thought a deviation from the norm was in order.

*headdesk*

Congrats on making us waste 7 pages on a pointless quest to discover your role that only really gave an advantage to the scum by letting them know a town role (assuming you're not scum yourself, which wouldn't be too far-fetched considering you led us all on a wild goose chase for no good reason).

FOS: Ironman

If Iron Man's claim is sincere, then he is probably not a power role. Claiming this early exposes him to NKs too early in the game.

So I think the next action would be to ask about features

, but I'll let someone else do that. However, we must consider WIFOMs.

If you weren't rolefishing before, you sure are now (underlined part). And asking someone else to do the rolefishing for you makes you look even worse, since then if someone finds rolefishing scummy, the person who did it on your behalf will look scummy instead of you, even though you came up with the idea. Liking my vote very much atm.

Ironman, what, if anything, do you do as the Announcer?

Why do we need to know this?

Sure, I'd much rather vote someone because they said something like, "Oh, my role? I'm mafi--oops oops, I mean...errrrm...I'm a notorious silly walker, yes yes, nothing to see here, move along" ...but unfortunately nothing like that has happened so I'm going with the possible least helpful member of the cast, until something better comes along.

Just because nothing obviously scummy has happened yet doesn't mean that nothing scummy has happened at all, it is always better to vote for someone because they're scummy than for any other reason, and a PR is one of the worst reasons for voting someone. You're now my 2nd fave lynch target behind Internet

HOS: strappado

Ironman, what, if anything, do you do as the Announcer?

Unvote, vote spyrex.

Less power role speculation please.

Exactly what I was talking about before with TheInternet.

Strappado's actions seem more like bad play style than scumminess.

What makes you say this?

This is really weird. That is the weirdest post restriction I have ever seen!

Content please

Hmm I saw Jordan online yet he didn't post in this game. I call lurker sh

en

anigans!

Judging by how the past couple of days have been, I was probs online only fleetingly. It's probs best to check if someone's online for a long time without posting before accusing me like you did.

Are we all going to start saying Bruce now? Sure, I can jump on this trend too.

Bruce, (the one with the scary dancing avatar) needs to post some bloody content too.

Lets not, that'll just be too confusing lol

Lol Iron Man, i looked at ur sketch, it's awesome, so what exactly do you do, as the anouncer?

Fishing and faking posting restriction?

You must die!

unvote; vote luigi gangsta

I agree. The posting of sketches in every post I could see, but a sudden backwards talking restriction. There should be no reason for it to happen out of nowhere

unvote:
vote: luigi gangsta

Albatross!

Math check mod,

Unvote; Vote: Luigi

. Causing chaos is scummy.

Albatross!

I think he was joking with his backward post you three. I find your sudden jumping to conclusions and sudden vote a bit suspect (although I do concede that causing confusion like he did was scummy, LG's actions is less suspicious than the other two because of him pointing that out and not mentioning faking PRs either.)

AMENDMENT: Bruce, Azimuth, DBE and SpyreX have now also voted Luigi, so has Ironman, and I find his post the scummiest of everyone's (beating the first two):

Ok, Luigi was definitly trying to fake a restriction. That calls for a

Unvote, Vote Luigi Gangsta

.

How do you know he was DEFINATLY trying to fake a restriction? He made one post that could have easily been a joke, way to try to fuel the rampant wagon with false statements, along with the goose chase you sent us on, you displace strappado into 2nd place on my scumlist.

FOS: Ironman

Btw, for those curious, my scumlist atm is, in order: Internet, Ironman, strappado, chenshi, farside, Elvis.

I don't think Luigi is scum, mostly due to how fast the wagon on him grew for very little reasoning, I feel it is scum fueled, which is why farside and Elvis appears on my scumlist, among other reasons.

Although I have nothing to say...

DING DING DING, there goes my scumdar!

you smelly elderberry.

I indeed have a restriction.

I am not a liberty to discuss it with the likes of you but you shall see a change in my play dependent on the amount of votes on the main lynch candidate.

That is all, you may return to your hamster mums.

I'm fairly certain of what your restriction is, and therefore who your charachter is. But I'm not sure I buy it, why would he appear in a Flying Circus Mafia game?

AMEDMENT: You've confirmed my suspicions, so again, why would a French Taunter, a Holy Grail charachter, appear in a Flying Circus game?

I think luigi should die. In a game where you are confused, why would you ADD to the confusion by typing backwards?

Poor posting, while Luigi may have made a mistake in adding confusion, I didn't find him too scummy, since we were all being silly at that point, everyone calling eachother Bruce, he made a reverse post for fun, going a bit over the top, but it wasn't scummy. Saying he should be lynched for it moves you past farside in my scumlist.

Ohh it feels SOOO GOOD when they fall into it. SOOO GOOD

PLEASE ALL HEREIN READ THIS REVELATION:

Darla is full of it.

I, you silly eldeberry sniffers, am the http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=S1yjT8XsDI8 ONE TRUE French Taunter.

It sucks coming out like this for it, but I'm not going to beat around the bush with it. I have a night action as well. I didn't want to get into it day 1, of course, but when someone else claims my role I sure as hell am going to jump on it.

So, this makes me believe that the scum weren't given fake claims as well. That's delicious.

This day 1 will go down in memory.

HUZZAH.

Confirm: DarlaBlueEyes - Thou are NOTS the taunter.

AHA! Now here's where things get really interesting. I think we can safely narrow down the lynch target to between DBE and SpyreX for today, though I shall continue to point out scummy actions by other players.

SpyreX counterclaimed DBE, which makes me think SpyreX is the true French Taunter, scum would have to be extremely ballsy/mad to counterclaim a role that isn't theirs. Plus, DBE has been generally scummier than SpyreX I think so far this game, SpyreX has been fairly protown, while before this, I was leaning on the scum side for DBE. BUT, DBE did have a PR, while SpyreX didn't (as far as I can see). In a game that is meant to be silly, I'd imagine a role like a French Taunter would be more likely to have a PR, since it's a fun and silly PR to have in a game, which swings it slightly back towards DBE for me. Also, DBE made it a little bit obvious what role she has/would fakeclaim by how obvious her (possibly fake) PR was. If SpyreX is the true French Taunter, would he have spotted what she may have been planning earlier because of the PR, and thought "Wait, is she trying to suggest that she has the role I really have?". It's quite suspicious. I still feel DBE is the more likely scum, but it's worth keeping the PR thing in the forefront of our minds, and tbh if DBE turns out to be telling the truth if we lynch her and SpyreX is a very ballsy scum, I will be kicking myself for not think he was scum because of the PR thing.

Unvote Vote: DBE

BUT, I actually have another theory in mind as well in this regard.

What if they are BOTH scum?

My alternative theory is that during Night 0, the scum, which include both DBE and SpyreX, came up with a mastermind plan to make one of them (SpyreX) a very trusted member of the town by setting up one of their own (DBE) to fakeclaim a role, then have SpyreX counterclaim that role, have DBE lynched, and when she comes up scum, BOOM, SpyreX becomes very trusted, maybe even confirmed as town. I'm actually reasonably confident that this theory may be true for two reasons:

A) SpyreX not counterclaiming the French Taunter role earlier. Really, with how obvious it was that DBE was going to claim that role because of the PR she may have been faking, I'd really think, if SpyreX is really a French Taunter, he'd have noticed this earlier and claimed that he thinks DBE is scum because of it. The PR made the charachter associated with it fairly unmistakeable.

B) I feel this one is the more compelling reason: Ealier I asked,

why would the French Taunter, who is a Holy Grail charachter, appear in a Flying Circus Game?

My answer: There is a Monty Python Movie Mafia Team. I feel this makes sense, I can't think of many groups of people who would have reason to start killing Flying Circus charachters, but the flavour may be that the movie charachters may be sick of Flying Circus charachters stealing part of the MP limelight, especially since MP discontinued the Flying Circus, and THEN went onto making movies. The movie charachters may feel the Flying Circus should be killed off because it is unfairly still stealing MP limelight even though it has been discontinued, so they may feel it is time to finish them off. Further evidence of this is that if this is true, and SpyreX is really the French Taunter and is in such a scumgroup, he will never be counterclaimed because he has that role.

AMENDMENT: Noticed that a couple of other players have also come up with a similar idea, kudos to them! Alsom I don't think that two players will be Taunting Frenchmen, since even though there was more than one Frenchman in the Movie, only one was really vocal.

I also don't like how fast this wagon on Darla is growing. I would like to hear her answer my question. I also don't think I'm going to believe Spyrex's claim right away. (Honestly, Darla's actions seem congruent...the French don't actually answer Arthur's questions...don't know if I believe her though.) So I ask that y'all hold off voting until both Darla and Spyrex talk more.

Seeing a town player play this cautiously is unusual

FOS: Mirth

, go to the back of the scumlist, though this could be a playstyle thing.

Scumlist atm: DBE, SpyreX, Internet, Ironman, strappado, chenshi, Mirth. farside and Elvis I'm letting off for now since the only real suspicion I had on them was my suspicion that the Luigi wagon was scum driven, and now that we have seemingly caught one scum at the beginning of the wagon, I'm not ready to buy that 2 or more scum would connect themselves by being the first 2 or especially first 3 on a wagon.

I also want a full claim from Iron Man who has ignored the calls for him to claim and put an illfounded L-2 vote on Luigi.

Why???


Read both Taunter claims, definatly more willing to believe SpyreX over DBE now, though I still think both may be scum.

[JordanA24]

I am not in favor of forcing a modkill or anything along that line.

Why would you have been against that?

yesterdays lynch happened kind of unexpectedly, I thought we'd get more time to discuss. I hope chenhsi either starts posting or gets replaced today, those would be the polite options.
Maybe some pressure would help
vote: chenhsi

I'm confused by the Spyrex counterclaim because with the wealth of characters in Monty Python, I doubted there would be two of the same role - but I think it's possible. I think it would be a dangerous gambit for him to counterclaim as scum, I also think he seems pretty town-ish so far, although my mind could change given more time.

So in these theme games with so a vast array of characters and abilities, is it common to discuss all night actions, or play it close to the vest? What's the custom?

Hateful lurker voting, and I don't like how she has left herself room to suddenly change her mind on SpyreX by stating her opinion could change over time, if later on, a SpyreX wagon forms, and you find yourself on it, I'll be deeply suspicious.

Well, we did have two kills - so we either have a town kill / scum kill or two sets of night killing scum OR a set of scum and a cult OR (and I hope not) a cult, a Sk and scum?

I'm almost certain we have a Cult, due to Luigi's role, and two kills last night makes me think we have Scum, SK and a Cult (now severely strenghened due to Luigi's death by the looks of it) to deal with (yikes!).

Atm, I'm torn for my vote between IM (for the stupid wild goose chase) and strappado, for all the evidence in this post and in posts before (and mentioning a lot of times that this is her first theme game and hence a learning curve for her, trying to get sympathy and leeway for scummy actions perhaps?), with Internet a bit behind, again for past evidence and for posting just frequently enough to not get prodded it seems, hence not drawing much attention to himself, which is an optimal strategy for scum. I'm going to

Vote: strappado

.

And finally, no, I was not visited by a Bridgekeeper last night.

[JordanA24]

PS: See my sig

[JordanA24]

Okay, another I'm-caught-up update from me.

1. I don't quite understand JordanA24's question for me in 712. I think he's asking why I would be against forcing a modkill. For me the question is backwards; I've no idea why I would be *for* forcing a modkill.

I was asking why you would be against the idea of possibly getting a "free lynch" by forcing a DBE modkill?

But, for now,

Unvote

I believe strap and it looks like I was Mr.Popular last night. We know what the bridgekeeper does and that is does exist.

Eh? If your telling the truth about your role, then strap should definatly not have been able to do anything last night, why the Unvote, you had pratically caugt strap lying red handed by your accounts.


ENOUGH ROLE SPECULATION ALREADY PEOPLE!

Well, isn't this a bag of cats that has been unleased.

And if Elvis wasn't told it was me outside of following my crumbs and guessing, then how was SpyreX told he was targeted by the bridgekeeper?

The very beginning of the PM I got said specifically I was visited by the bridgekeeper. It did not, of course, tell me who the bridgekeeper was, but there is no doubt that I was visited by whomever is the bridgekeeper. That role seemed weird and it still does seem weird, but thats what it is. Why your night action flavor is different than mine I have no idea, but thats where we're at.

I was only told that I had a "visitor." I was not told the player or role that was visiting me. I only guessed because I had already guessed PF's role and the weird alpaca innuendo seemed to fit with him.

In fact, I asked if the visitor was PF, and the response was that I couldn't be told.

SO. I don't know why Spyrex would be told the role that was visiting him, when I was not told. Not only was I not told, but I was told I COULD NOT BE TOLD.

Hmm, just because you weren't told who targeted you doesn't mean nobody gets told who got targeted by them, especially since if this Bridgekeeper role exists as has been touted in thread, then it'd be neccessary for the target to be told that they were targeted by them. If SpyreX got told who targeted him, then it could be an anomoly.

[JordanA24]

Exactly - I am NOT A ROLEBLOCKER. I am a redirecter. And Strap said she chose me regardless of my redirect so it fits with my role.

As for Iron Man, there's one reason why I can buy the randomizer... what's the Announcers catch phrase - "And now for something completely different."

Makes sense to me flavor wise.

Whoops sorry