Death Note: I’ll Be The One Writing Your Name

[Mordhaus]

FLIP ME DR. ROCKSO, THE ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN.

[Mordhaus]

Oh, right, bold.

How silly of me.

Anyway, for those of you who don't know, I am Dr. Rockso, and my hydra partner is Dr. Rockzo. We are collectively a rock and roll clown.

I sign most if not all of the time. Dr. Rockzo is usually too busy with cocaine to sign. That will be all.

~Dr. Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Lowkey, there's probs a ton of neighborhoods in this game. There's also mechanics that can force at least two of us to flavorclaim without choosing to. Don't flavorclaim in your hoods.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

FLIP ME DR. ROCKSO, THE ROCK AND ROLL CLOWN.

Wrong game crazy head. Put the cocaine you brought away for later.

-Dull Head

[Mordhaus]

Oh, right, bold.

How silly of me.

Anyway, for those of you who don't know, I am Dr. Rockso, and my hydra partner is Dr. Rockzo. We are collectively a rock and roll clown.

I sign most if not all of the time. Dr. Rockzo is usually too busy with cocaine to sign. That will be all.

~Dr. Rockso

Oh snap, I forgot to mention. I went to rehab and I've been clean 60 days now. I do kids birthday parties now. I don't even have intercourse with the mothers anymore. It's a sad day in the rock and roll clown world.

-Lenny

[Mordhaus]

VOTE: BEF



~Dr. Rockso

[Mordhaus]

No one flip flavor yet, btw. I have a thought I want to share at some point before that happens.

[Mordhaus]

I thought your flavor was

Leaf

beef.

BURGER KING HAS LIED TO ME!

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Your like the third hydra I've played against that has a saner head while the other one went to rehab or something.

Get more original backstories already.

Wow. I feel a relapse coming on. No one wants Dr. Rockzo to come out and play. He makes Rockso look like a bastion of sanity compared to Rockzo.

[Mordhaus]

To do or not to do. That is the question. I see this game is already going nuts and I wonder if I want to join in yet.

All aboard!

[Mordhaus]

Who is RVS-ing? WAGONS ARE SEXY!

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Hi again to RCE, Bingle, Chara, A50, BEF, LUV, and ducky
Nice to meet the rest of you.

Bingle's in this game???

VOTE: Bingle

I'm sure I have no idea who that is. I'm Dr. Rockso, the Rock and Roll Clown.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Narp.

If Evenstar is right, there's a decent chance that role might be linked to flavor in a way to make things guessable by scum. I think there is at least some utility to controlled reveals, but I don't think now is when we discuss it.

[Mordhaus]

Flavour doesn't inform alignment but I'm guessing there is probably someone on kira team with flavour cop who had shinigami eyes in the anime.

I'm kinda just excited to see all the set up gubbins at the end. Shame that beyond basic flavour name safety it's probably best avoided talkimg about for now.

He said he literally randomized the flavor and it has no effect, so if someone with shinigami eyes exist, it's coincidental.

In other news, yeah, I don't know if anyone is revealing today on day 1, but if they do, I say atleast 2 people HAVE to reveal. Because frankly, giving scum 1 option is weird too me.

Lynx, pl0x?

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

don't think now is when we discuss it

So can we fast forward through the inevitable ~10 pages worth of shitposts, personal grudges, and bad pushes to get to that point ASAP?

You don't think there's anything already AI?

[Mordhaus]

Yeah, ok.

VOTE: Vorkuta

[Mordhaus]

I fully expect everyone that was in that previous game that mislynched RCE d1 to see the worlds of difference in play and tone here. Lets make with the wagon, or ill have your reasons for disagreeing.

I... didn't actually read RCE last game, so if some handholding is possible...

I noted the SK possibility in our hydra PT, FWIW, but that makes EvenRyuk even more important to keep around, not less. An SK who claims D1 is inherently townsiding and it's not a mafia claim in a game without multiple kills which should become obvious as the game goes on.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Btw, I may or may not be in a hood. If I am, I won't say which. If I'm in more than one I still won't confirm or deny it. Finally, I will not be posting in any hoods I might be in. Hoods are BAD for town. I've seen it at least twice of late (this game, and this one)

I balanced one of those and kicked your scrawny ass in the other.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

The nature of this game means that scum will try to run up A LOT OF WAGONS to get them to claim so they can have many nightkill options for days to come.

WE REALLY DO NOT WANT TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

Use your vote -SPARINGLY-

Making a lot of town claim is a recipe for certain defeat.

Be extra careful with putting people in lynch range. yada yada

Gross.

[Mordhaus]

Btw, I may or may not be in a hood. If I am, I won't say which. If I'm in more than one I still won't confirm or deny it. Finally, I will not be posting in any hoods I might be in. Hoods are BAD for town. I've seen it at least twice of late (this game, and this one)

I balanced one of those and kicked your scrawny ass in the other.

~Rockso

You REALLY want me to come at you, don't you?

[Mordhaus]

So... My hydra buddy hasn't checked in much yet, but I think I'm happy with a towncore of

{Chara, Evenstar, Mizzy, B Jay}

Mild feels from BEF/RCE.

I'm alright with voting in Vecna/Wooper/Vork atm and want more poking of monkey and Mikan.

If you're not on mentioned, maybe consider sucking less.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Mordhaus, tell me about towncore Bambi Jay? she wears null like it's her job most games.

I'd rather not, but I'm usually pretty good at picking apart the difference.

It's not a read I'm sure on, but it's a read I don't want to reconsider today.

Even is town-unless-flips-negate, imo.

Vecna feels manipulative to me. The whole RCE push is :meh: and the mechanics is pretty basic. He's not wrong, but I'd expect that from scum him too.

I think I've played with LUV once? Maybe? Don't remember anything from him that pinged either way. He complained about massclaim being discussed, but that's more playstyle than alignment I think.

[Mordhaus]

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Also, why is Vorky scummy? Do you think he's being manipulative with his mechanics/claims propositions?

His mechanics talk is scum motivated. There's no reason to No lynch to let scum blindly guess identities, helping them PoE through the list of characters that much faster. You saw firsthand exactly how easy it was to narrow down identities once the pool shrank in Boon Wars.

The fact that he's apparently refusing to scumhunt by any other means is a huge red flag.

[Mordhaus]

Can't tell if serious or not.

It's A50, the answer is both.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

The three Misas in particular should get their claims in order: I'm fairly sure at least one of you is falseclaiming scum.

First of all, claimhunting is bad.

Second of all, locking in claims is bad.

Third of all, :thorface:

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

You in particular have absolutely zero credibility on this.

Why?

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

would you think it's a red flag if i told you Vork takes this in every game i've seen with him?

I'm not going to ignore it forever, but I'm happy enough to pursue other scumreads for the moment.

[Mordhaus]

not s/s, eva>mord town but I liek them both :c

Freeze-dried take right here.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

I mean...

If I say that we haven't made any posts related to our flavor does that change your stance?

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

These reads are generally good except for
VOTE: Mikan this one's outright scum

Your work?

[Mordhaus]

VOTE: wooper

Choo Choo, Chara.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Not really, no. You're still benefitting.

:shrugs:

I have not yet intentionally crumbed flavor I don't have, although it is something I've considered doing.

I was mostly waiting until other me got his head in the game to decide whether it was worth the effort.

By all means, though, keep pushing. In the meantime, what do you think of Vecna/Vork/Wooper?

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

this 1v1 is kinda pointless pals

Shhh... I never have two pretty girls fight over me. Let me enjoy it.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

is that you bingle?

Yup. 1/2 of this hydra is me. The other half is still MIA and also ~secret~.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

this exchange has been kinda confusing

iirc they fought in both Rolecall and Fogport too. This is probably NAI, tbh. It does tickle me, though.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Mostly 165. I really don't like your 165.

[Mordhaus]

Really? I think I'm kinda laid back compared to our last game with this hydra.

[Mordhaus]

link in the sig. We won the Golden Baguette because we like to party.

[Mordhaus]

Hating on me for stating the obvious, while it has to be stated, seems kinda meh just because id obvioysly do it as scum as well.

We'll see.

[Mordhaus]

i am pretty towny
i have this weird feeling that almost50 is in our hood watching us tho ://

Hot.

[Mordhaus]

Wooper is >>rand not scum due to interactions we've had in our neighbourhood, IMO. I could be wrong, but he's gone out on a limb to be cooperative and helpful. I'm never lynching him today.

Spicy.

[Mordhaus]

SPICY INTENSIFIES

[Mordhaus]

antitown info

????????????????????????????????

Helps with flavor hunting.

Hi. I don't have a read on you. Please expose your secrets to us.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Not a request to flip flavor. I forgot that was a thing while making that saucy comment.

[Mordhaus]

ignore madwoman ravings

Oh shit, your account was hacked, wasn't it?

[Mordhaus]

All these damn hydras make this game pretty hard to get a proper view/idea about where to stand. Dont even remember who posted what and what feeling belonged to which person for like 40% of the playerlist.

~annoying~

:/

I'm pretty sure I'm the only hydra here, and so far other me has made 1 post in the neighborhood and two in our hydra PT, one of which was lyrics from a song in the 80s and the other was apologizing for not having read anything yet.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

I'm fine w my vote.

[Mordhaus]

Same.

[Mordhaus]

Meganium was my first level 100 pokemon

How do you remember that? Holy fuck.

[Mordhaus]

this game is missing a tryhard, don't make me be the tryhard, i'm supposed to just quote them and say "yeah." i nominate Mordhaus to go the extra mile.

Maybe later. Right now I'm watching some people to see what they do.

[Mordhaus]

is it sad that seeing an opinion being defended with some sort of explanation made me unreasonably happy?

That's an explanation?

[Mordhaus]

Is there a mechanical reason to believe flavor is AI?

Wooper, have you used the eyes? If so, on whom. I don't want a result, just a target.

[Mordhaus]

I ask because if flavor is AI, I can break this game mechanically and I'm super bored with it conceptually.

[Mordhaus]

Flavour doesn't inform alignment but I'm guessing there is probably someone on kira team with flavour cop who had shinigami eyes in the anime.

I'm kinda just excited to see all the set up gubbins at the end. Shame that beyond basic flavour name safety it's probably best avoided talkimg about for now.

He said he literally randomized the flavor and it has no effect, so if someone with shinigami eyes exist, it's coincidental.

In other news, yeah, I don't know if anyone is revealing today on day 1, but if they do, I say atleast 2 people HAVE to reveal. Because frankly, giving scum 1 option is weird too me.

Lynx, pl0x?

~Rockso

Still want to know where you got this information/impression, btw.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Flavor has no effect on alignment.

Oh, cool, I can care about the game again.

[Mordhaus]

however, my previous post in mind, why do you need to know this?

Knowing the flavor of wooper's target is proscum. Knowing who wooper chose to target is protown. I'm not going to explain WHY until he claims his target (In case he hasn't worked it out), but him not claiming his target is not an option.

And claiming in a hood isn't viable either because A: Hoods can be infiltrated. B: As Almost demonstrated, we're not given a list of who has access to the hoods. Which means the assumption is that scum has access to every hood and none of the information there is sacred.

[Mordhaus]

If I hear scumslip again I'm gonna flip a table. Honestly so dumb.

Hey man, complain about it in the scum pt. If you make a big deal out of it here they might catch on that you're caught for the wrong reasons.

[Mordhaus]

Woops, meant to post that in the scum PT.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

I love L

Doesn't Misa love Light? Your roleplay leaves much to be desired.

[Mordhaus]

imagine scumslipping in ur neighborhood pt
VOTE: rce

Please do share what the slip was and why you think it's AI, though.

[Mordhaus]

Misa loves Kira, she just dates Light.

Dude, this is a major spoiler for the show, but it turns out Light is Kira. I know, mind blown, right?

[Mordhaus]

Did you misread your role PM

My role pm says I'm a frog ceo who can't be targeted by anything and also has 4 votes and also is a miller and that Ceph and PK are my scumbuddies. Also, in big bright red letters it says "Pocket FlavorLeaf and point him at JJD".

[Mordhaus]

Glad to say I'm happy to not be orchestrating a massclaim and then noping out of the thread.

[Mordhaus]

THAT'S IT! I'm tunneling you for the rest of this game (and the one after, and the one after..)

[Mordhaus]

fangirl

Fans are dangerous:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_death

Don't be a fan, people. It's not worth it.

[Mordhaus]

i kind of want to join your wagon, though. thoughts on it?

I'd rather you didn't. It's a bad wagon.

What do you like about it?

[Mordhaus]

Eh, I guess it probably does more than your current vote?

Why Bambi, Chara?

[Mordhaus]

So... My hydra buddy hasn't checked in much yet, but I think I'm happy with a towncore of

{Chara, Evenstar, Mizzy, B Jay}

Mild feels from BEF/RCE.

I'm alright with voting in Vecna/Wooper/Vork atm and want more poking of monkey and Mikan.

If you're not on mentioned, maybe consider sucking less.

~Rockso

An update:

Town
Even
Bambi
Chara

Mizzy
RCE

BEF

People I can't remember

Vork
A50

Wooper
Mikan
Vecna
Scum

[Mordhaus]

Gold is the last pokemons I finished. Not HeartGold. Just Gold. Chew on that.

[Mordhaus]

Woops, who did you target, if anyone?

Not result, just who. It's important.

[Mordhaus]

I'm serious. Not claiming this IS actually a solely pro scum move.

[Mordhaus]

Like, you don't have to trust that I'm town to trust that I believe that, because I have to explain myself when you out the target.

[Mordhaus]

You just have to trust that I'm good at mechanics. Am I good at mechanics?

[Mordhaus]

So... My hydra buddy hasn't checked in much yet, but I think I'm happy with a towncore of

{Chara, Evenstar, Mizzy, B Jay}

Mild feels from BEF/RCE.

I'm alright with voting in Vecna/Wooper/Vork atm and want more poking of monkey and Mikan.

If you're not on mentioned, maybe consider sucking less.

~Rockso

An update:

Town
Even
Bambi
Chara

Mizzy
RCE

BEF

People I can't remember (Misa/LUV)

Ryuk
Vork
A50

Wooper
Mikan
Vecna
Scum

FTFM.

[Mordhaus]

Right, but here's the thing. I'm going to explain why outing the who (but not the what) is good for town after you do so. So either I'm making this up entirely (In which case, why?) or it's actually protown.

This is not rocket surgery. You don't have to trust me when I say that there's a clear reason to do so, because I will explain why in a moment and scum me would lose way more than he gains by lying here.

[Mordhaus]

I'm not going to explain why before you claim, because right now theoretical scumWooper doesn't know whether fakeclaiming or realclaiming is more threatening, and locking that decision in before I explain myself is important.

[Mordhaus]

Why are you mildly townreading RCE clown overlord Jingle?

Gut.

[Mordhaus]

i'd strongly prefer you explained it beforehand and i'm not sure what this fps is about.

No, but I will walk through the mendel square here.

Wooper scum/Jingle scum. You know what I'm doing is proscum, so should let me do it.
Wooper scum/Jingle town. You know what I'm doing is protown, but refusing to humor me is probably more damaging than just humoring me.
Wooper town/Jingle town. You know what I'm doing is protown, so you should let me do it.

Wooper town/Jingle scum. Either what I'm doing is protown for the towncred or proscum and I have to explain it on Day 1. The information you're giving me is that YOU know the flavor of one person, which is harmful to town only if I can somehow get that information from you. I can't rightfully think of a way scum me could get that information, unless you've claimed it in a neighborhood I already have access to in which case who the fuck cares about it anyway or I could get that information anyway in which case why am I pushing so hard for this?

tl;dr: You don't have to trust my alignment to trust that this is inherently a protown move.

[Mordhaus]

Why do you townread Bambi

Townslip that no one brought attention to and was unlikely to be manufactured by Bambi, along with the right type of laid back posting from townJay.

[Mordhaus]

And why is Even town and not just scum fake or truth-claiming

Scum truthclaiming doesn't make sense, the claim makes sense to exist in the setup, and play has the same kind of righteous "I'm town and I'm right" feel to it that I expect from a town ego.

[Mordhaus]

Sad. That's literally the least spicy target you could have made.

[Mordhaus]

Okay, so if you targeted a townread, that was scum indicative. If you targeted a decent scum suspect that was town indicative. If you claim your target now, you're forced to follow through on that claim. Meaning, say, that you claimed to target a scumread (let's say mikan, for example) and mikan gets run up. We get to force you to claim their flavor before they flip. Mikan flips a different flavor than your claim, obviously you're lying and we lynch your scummy ass. If you target Mikan, and then Mikan is nk-d without crumbing flavor that's an interesting note in favor of your lynch.

Having scummy people day flavor cop scummy people is actually a legitimate choice that I'm weighing right now. It's a trade off of bringing LYLO one day closer against forcing scum to use their flavor cop on people whose identities they don't want to prioritize.

Of course, the third option is Even, which is probably the most immediate choice for town but also the safest claim for scum. You can safely lie about having targeted her as scum because she's already flavor claimed. If you get asked what she is after she's run up, it accomplishes fuckall. It's not necessarily a waste of your proscum action because we have no way of verifying your target.

[Mordhaus]

Still though,

VOTE: Mikan

I like this better.

[Mordhaus]

You should haggle with this clown. Trade in the information for a townread on both our slots. Then we can happily lynch Mikan afterwards,

This is all sorts of btw.

[Mordhaus]

If anyone else wants to claim a flavor cop on Eventide, this is literally the last opportunity to do so before it becomes a scumclaim, btw.

[Mordhaus]

There's another very slight piece of utility in claimed targets that I won't out unless we go through with /everyone targets a scumread today/ plan, btw. It's not big enough to warrant effecting my self deliberations on whether that's the right play though.

[Mordhaus]

No. That is objectively worse than just having everyone flip today.

The trick to locking everyone into hated and a target is that it basically gives us a no lynch in return for ensuring scum doesn't get to use their flavor cops with impunity. If we can get two phases of failed kills out of it or there is some other method by which we can get to evens in the setup (vig/sk/protection) it's worth the risk. I don't think it's likely there's a method to get to evens and there's at least the implication in my role that there are people who can be forced into flipping (I'm not saying whether I am one or not) which would nullify the protection making scum investigate scummy players gives.

[Mordhaus]

No, we're not massclaiming today. The setup is obviously designed to reward town for making scum miss kills early. Like, painfully so.

[Mordhaus]

Assuming 6 town deaths, D4 would be 9 alive. Which is LYLO if there are 4 scum. 15 is a wildcard between 3 scum with lots of power or 4 scum with only a little.

So no, even in the worst case scenario of 6 town deaths and a living townie who is outed as hated we don't necessarily lose D4.

[Mordhaus]

Alright, that's enough mechanics for today. Feel free to ask me about reads though.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

I've got her slotted as proactive newbtown. I can see where a lot of the theories come from and I agreed with most of the discussion re: Eventide. Honestly, probably shouldn't be as strong as it is now that I look at it, but for now I'm comfortable treating it as a townslot. I might reevaluate if her quality drops.

[Mordhaus]

i'm ready to commit to this relationship. do i need to buy a ring?

It's okay, I won't hold your terrible taste in men against you.

It's not like I didn't expect it given Almost Chara and all.

[Mordhaus]

Kira can only kill people who are flipped. If there's a Vigilante I assume you can get shot but otherwise the scum team can't kill you.

And I don't get how being a bulletproof makes you a Miller?

This is the slip.

As far as being laidback, the Jay clan as a whole plays the survivor game regardless of alignment. That's a nulltell. When they're not under pressure, scum Jays tend to be loud and in charge. Town Jays tend to be loud and do whatever they feel like. This Jay isn't trying to be in charge, but is being loud. Granted, I have more experience with Jays of the Elsa variety, but I believe this to be a universal tell across all Jays.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

why's Mikan your counterwagon of choice?

Her's was the worst vote on me, the wagon should be high info, and I have more faith in my ability to read her than any of my other suspects.

[Mordhaus]

I’m at like 50 shades of wtf right now. And yes, chara, I jingle am half of Mordhaus.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Ok, I'm firmly in the middle of a pretty intense cocaine binge and the hookers just left to score another 8Ball, or they went to play 8 ball, or listen to 8 ball that part wasnt clear.

What is clear is that there was way to much conversation about fake asian animals and games and not enough metal and death.

You guys want some fucking metal? You guys want some death? Someone explain the flavor to me because i dont know whats going on. Or pass me the coke and acid, i might need to open my mind another way.

ZO

[Mordhaus]

Bambi is not getting killed. I am protecting her. Trust me and lynch Mordhaus.

This is a really weird post, why did you make it?

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

But like... Did anyone think you were in any danger? I literally just outed a townslip from you and you've got one vote from someone who just rage replaced. What's the point of the post at all?

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

In other news, we were going to get together to talk about the game and both mutually passed out without informing the other last night. It was pretty glorious.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Eh. She's been kinda volatile lately, but I thought she was in a pretty good headspace rn.

[Mordhaus]

Everyone has to stop playing a strategy game on drugs. It's weird.

I feel like it would be weird for me to not play this game on drugs. Actually the more I think about it, I'm generally high. Not like licking window levels but always a bit buzzed. I have issues.

[Mordhaus]

Is friendly neighbor not a neighborizer? Am I being dense?

Isn't a friendly neighbor someone who announces to their "neighbor" that they are town?

Has Alislot done that?

[Mordhaus]

He's trying REALLY hard to pocket me.

It seems like something more to me but I don't want to talk about it yet. Tomorrow maybe? Remind me.

This has been Zo by the way. Sorry I forget to sign sometimes because drugs.

[Mordhaus]

Oh damnit I had post #666. Now I'm garunteed to die within 3 days.

Just have sex with someone and you pass it onto them. I think.

[Mordhaus]

Yeah so Ali claimed FN and that's partially accurate

It's an FN only if I flip my flavor, and that has negative consequences beyond the normal

So I'd rather not do that

So unless you flip your flavor there's no way to figure this out one way or the other?

I agree that right now isn't the time to do that. I'm still trying to figure out the mechanics here but the flavor is what allows scum to kill here right?

Like they have to match a certain phrase or name?

[Mordhaus]

That's an STD, not something I'm spreading at all. Or contracting.

But yeah, again, if you all missed it, upon my death Millers and Godfathers are a possibility. So Uh... There's a chance at a Godfather. If it exists.

It follows was a great concept movie.

And I did miss that. Have Miller's been talked about at all? Let me look back at my notes.

[Mordhaus]

Besides Even saying they're a type of Miller... No. And I waited quite awhile before revealing that.

So I assume I don't activate a Miller, but a Godfather instead.

Right, I remembered that coming up but wasn't sure who. And wooper did some kind of gypse eye on Even?

If even is a miller of sorts how would that even work on him/her (I'll remember to look for next time).

[Mordhaus]

Ok. So even can't be forced to flip, and Chem could conftown himself to someone by flipping?

[Mordhaus]

He's trying REALLY hard to pocket me.

Is it working?

Totes.

[Mordhaus]

We should get 14 people to use it on Even. Can't be too careful.

two people have used it on Evenstar. we're good there.

Two people have claimed to use it on evenstar and I’ve already explained why Bambi’s idea is bad for us.

[Mordhaus]

Oh boy
do we lynch people with negative utility or scum equity?

Decisions, decisions...

Seriously Chara? This is town?

[Mordhaus]

You... Thought I was serious?

No, I thought people might take you seriously. Different meaning, same issue.

[Mordhaus]

We’re not discussing whether Bambi gets policy lynched if the scumteam forces her to flip until after the scumteam forces her to flip, assuming they can. I shouldn’t have to explain why.

[Mordhaus]

Let me try with my shpiel again

We all mass flavor claim and use night actions and shinigami eye deals to verify each and everyone to get 70% of a game solve and pinpoint the bad guys to like ~4 contradictions
We aren't afraid of night kills
The scum team will have too many hurdles to leap through in order to manufacture a version of events where EVERYTHING stays consistant
Also we aren't afraid of night kills

inb4 "but site meta"

No.

[Mordhaus]

I’m serious about policy lynching anyone else who claims to have rolecopped ANYONE who has publicly flavorclaimed, btw.

[Mordhaus]

Hm... 728 leaves an interesting option.

Woop/Newisae, whenever you ARE actually required to claim your result, do so at the same time in hoods that you're not both privy to and then confirm in the main thread.

[Mordhaus]

At the same time to prevent scum ferrying the message, btw.

I don't think this needs to happen immediately, tbh.

@mod: Prods for the Prod God? I think there're 3.

[Mordhaus]

Oh boy
do we lynch people with negative utility or scum equity?

Decisions, decisions...

Seriously Chara? This is town?

well, it might be. Almost, do you have any Vork insight?

i really don't have ability with reading posting that is purely mechanical, i just know it's how Vork always plays.


Chemist is town because Alisae was town, looking forward to your catchup thoughts Chemist.

So... your premise is we don’t lynch the guys spouting obviously scum motivated mechspeak because he only ever plays through mechanics? So... he’s not going to get more useful, he’s not going to get more readable, and we want to keep him around why?

VOTE: Vorkuta

Tell me in the hydra pt if you have a problem with my murderboner, but I don’t foresee letting this go.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

If you want me to get even more specific, I'm a Godfather/Miller Enabler upon my flip.

That's a bloody shitty role that I don't think even YOU can come up with on your own, so I'm inclined to buy it.

Yeah, but it's unique, atleast. I'm like an enabler for a mafia ability. That's pretty fun.

I've seen something similar with a townie enabling the scum daychat.

I think. That might have been a fever dream. Or the coke.

Zo

[Mordhaus]

Almost, do you have any Vork insight?

Erm.. too scummy to be scum comes to mind. Most of his bright ideas so far have been "Jester-like motivated", but I very much doubt FL would put a Jester in a Death Note game.

I think I'm going to start lynching anyone who uses TWTBAW as an excuse for anything.

Scummy actors need to be lynched so that we can eliminate false positives. If they are town then they should have played better.

[Mordhaus]

Tell me in the hydra pt if you have a problem with my murderboner, but I don’t foresee letting this go.

~Rockso

Co-signed with a line. Mech players hide behind mech because they can easily pass themselves off as scum. It allows them to remove their own bias.

For me it's the whole imma check in, complain about what people post, harp on a mass claim, and then disappear again shtick he's been running.

Like if he played the game the way the rest of us were he would have insight. Here he is absolving himself of any culpability.

[Mordhaus]

I mean from my point of view, anyone that isn't accepting my mechanical PoV and potential solve is either
-intentionally obstinate and is clinging to site meta, and refusing to innovate given the perfect environment
-scum roadblocking/derailing/obstructing said solve

And I'm actually scumhunting in my way as I lack familiarity with the roster and the.... "patience" to go toe-to-toe with some of the more outspoken personalities here.

But sure

Or they are town who has reason to need to stay hidden a bit because of the way their role was written?

But yeah, make a false and/or situation that fits your agenda. You're making this easy.

[Mordhaus]

No. Even speculating about other people's potential flavorsofts is giving scum access to information they don't necessarily have.

Don't talk about flavors that may or may not exist. Don't draw attention to flavor softs. Don't hunt flavor softs. Don't believe flavor softs.

All of that should be elementary. I'm super interested in what you think we've softed, too, but you continuing to talk about it just increases the likelihood that scum picks up on whatever you think you see on the off chance that whatever you see isn't. It can't help town, it theoretically could help scum, and it's a distraction from actually playing the game. If you want to brag in the postgame, PM your list to Morality as a bragging rights thing, but STOP BRINGING IT UP.

[Mordhaus]

~So

[Mordhaus]

so it's a policy lynch? i'm not necessarily opposed, but call it like it is. :>

I mean... Part policy lynch, part there's an actual scum motivation to what he's pushing.

As far as anyone actually reading him: Who? A50 had the waffley-est defense post using TWTBAW of all things. Duck doesn't want to lynch him because... he's not a loaf of bread? I dunno why ducks do anything, tbh. Literally no one else has posted a townread or a reason to townread him.

[Mordhaus]

-intentionally obstinate and is clinging to site meta, and refusing to innovate given the perfect environment

Your 'innovative strategy' is something people have been doing successfully in setups that support it since before I joined the site. There was literally a player with a title referencing his propensity to break setups via massclaim. This is also the exact opposite of the "perfect environment" for a massclaim, because there's a public function that supports keeping scum from getting extra information.

Your suggestion is literally: Let's take the setup that is balanced around inconsistent nightkills, and let scum nightkill consistently. If you're town, you should be ashamed of that bullshit. If you want terribly balanced games that are broken by not thinking, go play 1 Night.

[Mordhaus]

Given our role, (not flavor) I'm inclined to believe that mass flavorcopping isn't worth it. I'll reevaluate after N1 and/or if we get more evidence either way.

[Mordhaus]

I'm not the one who brought it up, Mordhaus.

No, but you are the one hunting flavorsofts that I'm pretty sure don't exist, so my point stands. This is a postgame/deadthread discussion anyway.

~Rockso

[Mordhaus]

Bambi claimed "miller enabler" and whatever if he's dead.
Any scum worth his salt already eye'd him and is going to N1 kill him.
And that was WITHOUT my prompting.
We're ALREADY going to lose roles by roles, so we might as well bite the bullet and not go out pathetically 1-by-1.

I think I got dumber reading this.

[Mordhaus]

Bambi claimed "miller enabler" and whatever if he's dead.
Any scum worth his salt already eye'd him and is going to N1 kill him.
And that was WITHOUT my prompting.
We're ALREADY going to lose roles by roles, so we might as well bite the bullet and not go out pathetically 1-by-1.

I think I got dumber reading this.

I think he ignored all my explanation for my role completely. did I not capitalize it enough? Was I unclear it my main explanation?

I got it, and i haven't been off this cloud in a week. So caught it too and he is much more stable than I.

It was the basis for my 3rd option to Vork that was accidentally left out of his list of why people would oppose him here.

I mean, a 3rd option, im sure there are a lot of reasons to not do this here and listing them all would take time away from just lynching you and doing what you want to do and get on with the actual game.

So shut up or nut up?

Zo

[Mordhaus]

the assumptions I'm making are far more reasonable than his

Because this will be contested by the usual suspects, I'll clarify right now

Mordhaus (and to some extent A50) are implicitly assuming that the scum team as a bunch of nerds that are willing to (re)watch the anime frame-by-frame and analyze the manga under a microscope to try and guess the flavor <-> role interactions.

No I believe we are saying that giving scum information that they dont have and need to win the game is not a good way for us to win...

Is this more complicated than I'm thinking here? Like are we on a different fucking plane of understanding that what I see as something so simple could actually stump the best on your plane?

[Mordhaus]

I'm inclined to follow the murderboner.

It always finds scum, like divining water, but with a boner...

[Mordhaus]

Bambi claimed "miller enabler" and whatever if he's dead.
Any scum worth his salt already eye'd him and is going to N1 kill him.
And that was WITHOUT my prompting.
We're ALREADY going to lose roles by roles, so we might as well bite the bullet and not go out pathetically 1-by-1.

I think I got dumber reading this.

I think he ignored all my explanation for my role completely. did I not capitalize it enough? Was I unclear it my main explanation?

I got it, and i haven't been off this cloud in a week. So caught it too and he is much more stable than I.

It was the basis for my 3rd option to Vork that was accidentally left out of his list of why people would oppose him here.

I mean, a 3rd option, im sure there are a lot of reasons to not do this here and listing them all would take time away from just lynching you and doing what you want to do and get on with the actual game.

So shut up or nut up?

Zo

The bolded is to Vork, not Bambi, sorry. Drugs.

[Mordhaus]

We'll be sitting on this page top if anyone wants to come at us.

Zo

[Mordhaus]

Then become Kira and murder people. Don't bore me, pokemon.

What kind of pansies kill people with books?

In other news, I'm closing on a loan, so I'll be back tomorrow.

~So

[Mordhaus]

Kay.

VOTE: misa

[Mordhaus]

UNVOTE:

Not ready to end the day. I want to hear from Ryuk at least once.

The loan went through, btw.

~So

[Mordhaus]

I mean...

@mod: any chance we can get an extension? Also a prod on Ryuk? And in three hours a prod on wooper?

We totally lynch Misa before allowing a no lynch though. If we no lynch, scum just get free guesses at flavors.

[Mordhaus]

I don't get why you can't post gifs or how it's something we can help with.

Sometimes gifs are hard, I have issues posting pictures sometimes which has made me adapt my playstyle to include other things.

Maybe Misa has something planned she wanted to unveil and needed the proper props for that.

And what do you mean you cant help her with posting gifs, have you never had to walk your mother through sending an attachment in an email for the 6th time this year?

@Misa Its simple. Follow these directions:

In this post will be a gif.



Right click on the gif and choose 'Copy Image Location' -> https://giphygifs.s3.amazonaws.com/medi ... /giphy.gif

Use the img tag around the copied image location and then preview. If you have followed the steps correctly you should have a snarky you're welcome in your own post.

If not then something has gone wrong and we need to set up an appointment for further assistance.

Zo

[Mordhaus]

Dammit Zo, don't encourage the lurksacks. Let them get replaced or fuck off and die like all useless fucks deserve.

You're voting the Enigma, Woops, which is a wholly shit vote, tbh. I don't think you've done a bit of poking, prodding, or campaigning for the sweet delicious lifebloods of the waterfowl. Why?

@Misa: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+not+be+useless%3F&t=w

~So

[Mordhaus]

Zo who am i voting

Are you asking because you dont remember and you want me to look for you or do you want me to tell you who to vote?

[Mordhaus]

Dammit Zo, don't encourage the lurksacks. Let them get replaced or fuck off and die like all useless fucks deserve.

You're voting the Enigma, Woops, which is a wholly shit vote, tbh. I don't think you've done a bit of poking, prodding, or campaigning for the sweet delicious lifebloods of the waterfowl. Why?

@Misa:

~So

I tried to have that gif in the post and it didnt work...

There goes my feelings of superiority.

[Mordhaus]

that's not a gif, Zo. That's a legitimate link. Have you never seen lmgtfy?

[Mordhaus]

that's not a gif, Zo. That's a legitimate link. Have you never seen lmgtfy?

Don't you make fun of me. I will stop doing coke and start taking the meds the doctor gave us, I mean gave me instead.

How would you like that? Huh? Not so big when your entire existence is threatened, aren't you you little clown?

Zo

[Mordhaus]

You can help us lynch Misa if that becomes a thing.

We hope that some things will start to shake loose once we get some activity.

Zo

[Mordhaus]

Let me just white-knight and say that this is a stupid ass wagon. And then let me provide a critical note that Mordhaus was the actual scum fake-whiteknighting by unvoting this wagon as soon as it got traction by virtue of not wanting to end the day yet, but doing nothing to garner discussion.

I mean... I want Ryuk to post anything AI at all. Literally anything. How do you suggest I get that to happen?

~So

[Mordhaus]

Apparently that's not good enough for Vecna, so we're going to see what he comes up with as a way for me to instigate activity from the player who went 5 days without posting and has done literally nothing but prodge otherwise. All while asking to delay the policy lynch I'm fine with until we can get that slot to, you know, do anything.

~So

[Mordhaus]

Mordhaus and Enigma are scum together tbh.

This "your Enigma vote is shit" without showing any interest in reading the slot whatsoever on his own is a scumtell that Bingle loved to do in a previous game where he also tried to ask a lot of questions about scumreads on his partner just to poke at the weak points in their arguments

Why is Enigma scum?

[Mordhaus]

On a scale from 1-10, how closely are you reading the game, Vecna?

[Mordhaus]

Im probably at my usual 7-8 where I might miss the occasional small detail but have a pretty good idea whats going on. Ive read all the posts. Not really sure where you wanna go with this.

How serious were you about the Chem push?

[Mordhaus]

So Mord, comment on this post. Is this what I was saying?

I honestly don't know what RCE is saying there, so... Maybe?

What you were saying was that I was scum for having other things I wanted to do before the policy lynch but still supporting the policy lynch (which is wrong, but not an especially questionable stance to take) and that the Misa wagon is bad. I don't think whiteknighting applies to either of our actions.

RCE is def acting weird about this though.

[Mordhaus]

Did you really think you could derail a lynch on a lurksack onto a claimed FN?

[Mordhaus]

Why must there be apathy until she's lynched?

There's more than enough to discuss right now, and you're ignoring it.

[Mordhaus]

But without a misa flip its all pointless.

Is it?

What would Misa flipping town here mean?

What would Misa flipping scum?

Why don't you want to make inquiries or conclusions until Misa is dead?

The more I see, the more I favor replacement over lynch, and the more I side with Vecna.

VOTE: RCE

[Mordhaus]

[Mordhaus]

I feel like we should be ignoring the hoods.

In hindsight, I think not posting in the hoods at all would have been the smarter idea.

[Mordhaus]

Who are the 2 unlynchables from your PoV and why are they off the pool?

Bingle, because his pockets are warm and fluffy, and Bingle's hydra partner, because he's a Bingle-Pocket-Enabler.

[Mordhaus]

Oh yes, rethink your choice to not lurk in the neighborhood and spy on the townies having their secret convos.

Eh... More rethink my decision to potentially give scum knowledge about neighborhood composition and thus access to flavorspeccing material. I don't think in this setup particularly (where we have no guarantees that our neighborhoods aren't infiltrated by people we don't even know are in them) there is any use to trying to use our neighborhoods to scumhunt, especially when combined with the general lurkfest that is the main thread.

~So

[Mordhaus]

maybe a50 is the only smart one.

Hey, so I just met you, and this is crazy, but why are you ignoring all of the reeltawk from the last couple of pages? Like seriously, that's all you can come up with to engage about? What do you think about the RCE/Vec fight? What do you think about the idea that gamestate suggests Misa town? What do you think about Bambi's murderboner?

~So

[Mordhaus]

1034 is p gross, tbh.

[Mordhaus]

Vote Count 1.08

RCEnigma [2]:

Vecna, Mordhaus

How funny would it be if these 3 end up being the scum team?

Help us bus then, Fishman.

[Mordhaus]

Also I'm assuming this means that the replacement slot lynch wont go through today.
VOTE: Ryuk

Seriously, though, this is town?

[Mordhaus]

Misa is being replaced!

might have something to do with

monkey quote me instead- I have fresher info

Also I'm assuming this means that the replacement slot lynch wont go through today.
VOTE: Ryuk

Ryuk has received their final prod.

I’ll add 48 hours since I’m going to be busy next few days and inactivity and I’m likely gonna find a replacement for Ryuk tomorrow.

>.>

I'd appreciate votes on RCE, but I'd appreciate you fucking playing the game more.

[Mordhaus]

But it's worth a push.

Ahh yes, low hanging fruit is always worth a push, but usually its scum pushing those wagons...

Are you always this surface level in your thoughts?

Zo

[Mordhaus]

Someone said to do something spicy.

Oh cool, an info push. What'd you learn about who?

[Mordhaus]

So murder the Wooper and get half off at your next visit to Burger King.

If I lynch wooper I have to go to Burger King?

Welp. Sorry town, wopper gonna endgame us.

[Mordhaus]

Oh, okay then.

VOTE: whopper

[Mordhaus]

A lotta my paranoia about A50 has disappeared, btw, and my less insane half and I agree that we're sorely lacking townreads, so I'm just gonna assume that's town.

That brings me to not being willing to lynch Bambi, Even, Chara, A50 and Chemist.

[Mordhaus]

or I’ll just play from this page & iso when it feels necessary

So... 3 pages of content now. What do you think about whopper? About E Nigma? About Fish?

[Mordhaus]

Fucking day vigged for no fucking reason on day 1 again?

You people are shit and should feel bad.

[Mordhaus]

Btw, my death forces someone to flip, so... congrats on giving scum chances to shoot. I’m like 90% sure I know who it is and like 75% sure our flip activity is functionally:become masons:, so you’re welcome for being very shit at the game.

[Mordhaus]

8 minutes.

[Mordhaus]

I got dayvigged by a stupid fucking idiot who claimed in the middle of the night my time to shoot without giving me a chance to claim in response to the worst or soft of all time.

Fl’s deadline says 8 minutes (and also that he’s probably adding 48 hours but hasn’t said shit since then).

Town deserves to lose, and you should probably sheep Vorkuta into shitting the bed violently over and over again.

[Mordhaus]

Part of my day vig is a 24 hour twilight, I don't know it interacts with deadline

Twilight is the phase between day and night. You’re claiming to be day ending.

[Mordhaus]

He claimed to have valuable information d2 for someone else, no one interrogated to find out if the information is real (or even scum indicative) and mizzy shot me while I was asleep.

I guess I just don’t get to play mafia anymore because every game I sign up for has people intentionally playing as badly as possible. Mizzy, go fuck yourself.

[Mordhaus]

I guess I can maybe clear flavor for someone if I’m right.

flip: Naomi

[Mordhaus]

If I'm still alive for the twilight, I might get the information.

I'm Naomi, if I die Ray Penber flips.

If we flip, we get some information, which I'm speccing heavily is that Ray Penber is town.

[Mordhaus]

There's also mechanics that can force at least two of us to flavorclaim without choosing to.

It's not like I fucking claimed it outright on Page 1 or anything.

[Mordhaus]

It doesn't specify I have to be flipped to flip Ray when I die. If either of us ever dies, the other flips. That's it.

[Mordhaus]

Morality said we would and then never came back.

[Mordhaus]

But Lord-Shoot-Someone-Who-Softclaimed on P1 without an explanation has claimed day ending dayvig and shot me, so...

[Mordhaus]

Lynch Mizzy if they survive. They're probs town, but they're also scumsiding really hard and town is better off without them.

Bambi and Chara are never lynch. Evenstar is never lynch before LYLO.

I was lowkey suspecting A50 for not being weird about me after he loldayvigged me after two posts in Grand Idea, but *reasons* mean that's probably NAI.

[Mordhaus]

Oh. Fucking Cool. Ryuk is town, you shot yourselves a fucking MASON.

Dumbasses.

[Mordhaus]

Oh, hey.... That's interesting.

Even, if you're REM, L is Chara.

Oh, and we were scum.

[Mordhaus]

We have seven flavors already worked out, btw.

[Mordhaus]

Oh, no, it was objectively a terrible shot.

[Mordhaus]

Oh, from the scumthread, there's a couple things worth noting:

There is definitely one but more likely 2 third party roles. One is a serial killer, one is a hunter. Scum, as such, has decided to leave the obvious kills to the serial killer. There are only three of us, which means town has little power especially with the Dayvig outed, the high playercount, and the inconsistent nightkills.

Bambi is Near, although the claim doesn't make any sense since we have no godfather. Best guess, Bambi is a hunter looking for Light. Good luck, scumbuddies.

[Mordhaus]

Bambi is Near, although the claim doesn't make any sense since we have no godfather. Best guess, Bambi is a hunter looking for Light. Good luck, scumbuddies.

Shut Up Shut Up Shut Up

Why the fuck would I not out flavor results? It helps the other antitown make successful Nightkills, and tells presumably town players who they need to kill.

Oh, I took the eyes, btw.

[Mordhaus]

I only 3p side as town. Sorry.

Besides, you're like, the most fun player in this list. It's only right we hang out in the dead thread together.

[Mordhaus]

I was gonna troll until twilight, but I figured giving the other killing roles the ability to kill was probably tech.

[Mordhaus]

Oh, shit... Creature was your lyncher target? THAT'S FUCKING PRICELESS. Best part is that now there's no reason for town to lynch you or scum to shoot you so you're stuck in this shitfest until the day before LYLO. If you make it to 2v2v1 my buddies will give you the win, though, so you should probably still help lynch town/sk.

[Mordhaus]

I'd honestly assumed you were like me/Reye, where we knew that there was a player who flipped when we died but not who it was.

Solid fucking gold right there.

[Mordhaus]

Well, now. I think I've confused the thread enough. 3p's, the information I've given on flavors is good. Enjoy the bloodbath.

[Mordhaus]

I kinda did cos I'm too sensitive for this game but I also know this. Town mislynch town all the time, mine was just more dramatic and individually culpable. Worst they can do is not play with me again. And hey, looks like I was right and they still might not play with me again for the "scum dead for no good reason" thingy.

Never thought I could have felt like I screwed town by hitting scum tho.

FWIW, I don't blacklist people for being bad, and a lot of the shitting on you WAS theater. Most of it was literally that being dayvigged for no reason was something that literally happened two posts into my last completed game, which is in no way your fault.

In the future, if you're going to dayvig someone at least let them claim first, especially if your role then allows them to give their info to scummates. Also, the longer you holster a dayvig, the more town utility it has.

[Mordhaus]

She dies at the end of act 1 with info that would crack open the case for giving too much away.

I mean... I'm dying at the end of D1 while knowing who Kira is...

[Mordhaus]

My townflip is gonna be spicy.

[Mordhaus]

Scumclaiming in twilight for reactions is like maf 101. Dunno how it'd be the triple cross of the century at all.

[Mordhaus]

I mean, if I was town I'd have probably used a fake flavor. Thanks for confirming you're actually Near though, that was a guess we weren't 100% on.

[Mordhaus]

Inb4 mord does flip scum and none of the wifom was wifom. SK wins in 5 gg.