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Well Only thing I can think of is we vote for who are the 2 scummiest. Whoever posts first or maybe second on a new page should post a vote count at the end of their post. Once somebody reaches majority vote, the person with seond highest votes should dynamite them or vice versa. If niether of the two agrees to dynamite the other then there's chance we found scum, and third highest voted should dynamite the scummiest and so on. That's all I got at the moment.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Like this...
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Vote count Day 1 so far:
Elvis (1) Kuribo
Ooba (1) Kuribo
PEG (1) Claus
adel (1) Claus
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I guess we can say everyone has 2 votes since we are voting for the 2 scumiest.
For once I am actually glad format is there to stop a killing. Damnit, why can't Guardian be playing when I have a use for him.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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@Stoofer and everybody else
Dropping in to give you a little "fyi" This saturday (yes I said saturday) I got to take a statewide exam. Test is 4 hours to finish 120 question and 4 hours more to finish the last 60 so don't expect any big content posts from me friday or saturday. If you want big content from me you'll have to wait until sunday at the earliest.
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Also I got 2comments/questions for CEscum,
1) you encouraged someone to blow up blaze runner early in the game. Why? Got other reasoning or were you just agreeing with greasy spot?Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Hello.
I'm actually fine with Greasy Spot DYNAMITING Blazerunner. Or someone else DYNAMITING Blazrunner. As long as it's not me, ofcourse.
2) anybody but you should blow him up of course and then you say you'll blow up someone that votes you?
Huh?Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:I'll dynamite the next person who votes me.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Damn, I didn't get the chance to post sunday like I wanted to and if you'll check my last post in this game you'll see why I didn't post friday or saturday.
Your reasons here don't come off as being that genuine because I certainly couldn't draw them from what you initially said.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
1) Yes. I thought Blazerunner was trying to blend in. It would've been better if someone else had killed him, though.PokerFace wrote:1) you encouraged someone to blow up blaze runner early in the game. Why? Got other reasoning or were you just agreeing with greasy spot?
2) anybody but you should blow him up of course and then you say you'll blow up someone that votes you?
2) That 'anybody should blow him up' was because I wasn't sold on Greasy Spot's guilt. I'd rather have waited for a better target to present itself. The second post was nonsense.
Also your rashness for bloodshed and seeing others blow people up seem to contradict your earlier comments of people holding back explosions. I think Elvis is right about you. I'm going to glance at Pickem and see if I agree with her on him too.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Ooba, as soon as your 24 hours have passed, feel free to dynamite the hell outa Quag.
Quag, if you have anything to say in the meantime, I suggest you hurry up.
Also I fail to see what your saying here. There were more people than just Yos2 who made comments in the queue about DGB. Looks like you are just trying to protect Surye because you believe nightson's death incriminates him. Yet analyzing nightkills is some big wifom.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Hmm.. Strange nightkill choice again.
I suppose the only thing particular about Nightson's posts is that he suspected Surye, but that's probably a distraction from the fact that the first nightkill is incriminating Yos2.
Vote: CEScum
I'd like this vote to be carried over to tomorrow because at the moment I'd support seeing CEScum blow up. And I think I'd find it ammusing to see surye be the one to blow him up. His comments day2 didn't sit to well with me earlier. I'll be taking another look at him to see if he deserves my vote more.
And as far as Adel and Yos2's plans go I think the system we got right now should work for awhile. We ask one of the two scumiest to strike a light then have the other Dynamite the first one. As long as the scum is found and blown up, things should work out. The wagon Yosarian2 is getting doesn't quite interest me at the moment. I don't see the 3 thing as a tell because i don't think balance would allow for only 3 in this setup. And going after lurkers is not a bad thing with lurking being a useful scum strategy in this game. I will be looking at what skruff's has been posting later.
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I posted this earlier. Are other people going to keep track of and post new vote counts on each page or am i going to have to do it?PokerFace wrote:Well Only thing I can think of is we vote for who are the 2 scummiest.Whoever posts first or maybe second on a new page should post a vote count at the end of their post.Once somebody reaches majority vote, the person with seond highest votes should dynamite them or vice versa. If niether of the two agrees to dynamite the other then there's chance we found scum, and third highest voted should dynamite the scummiest and so on. That's all I got at the moment.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I will now post a vote count example people should quote and use for later. I can't remember the exact agreed upon percent and votes necessary to start the exploding and I ain't about to do the math to find out the vote amount so feel free to edit these numbers should others update this later. I ain't keen on time zones either so assuming someone else does quote and update this later they are welcome to throw in whatever 1:50pm EST is in GMT.
@Mod: Stoofer, I didn't see anything in your rules saying I couldn't use different font colors or sizes. So can they be used to make this stand out better later? Also Armlx posted in the V/la thread. Something about his laptop power cord dieing.
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Vote Count of Day 3:
Cogito Ergo Scum - 3(Elvis, Skruffs, PokerFace)
UltimaAvalon - 1(Yosarian2)
Marmalade - 1(Elmo)
Elmo - 1(Marmalade)
Yosarian2 - 1(Claus)
Skruffs - 1(Adel)
"Not Voting - (Everyone else)"
19 people alive so its 10 votes needed for forced dynamiting
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Holy Crap!
I originally made that vote count thing to work as another example like I did in post 26 earlier except for everyone having 2 votes. After all I was the page's first post and I wanted other people to quote/update that thing for a future day. But now that I look back at page 9, I think UltimaAvalon might actually still be alive.UltimaAvalon wrote:Poker, I've already been blowed up.
Not all capsAdel wrote:DYNAMITE: UltimaAvalon
He is UltimAdel wrote:DYNAMITE: ULTIMAVALON
just in case the first try didn't work.aAvalon not UltimAvalon
I can't believe no one caught that. I didn't even notice it til now. I think UA is still alive. Shall we discuss things further, what should we do now? vote: UltimaAvalon? you want to start your wagon now UA?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I am still feeling uneasy about CES for the reasons i mentioned Day 3.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 64#1020464
Some people have been saying that is how CES usually acts and though I consider that a terrible excuse I am willing to try and take some time to meta him tomorrow.
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Sarcastro has made alot of posts with feeble amounts of content. He implies someone should kill quagmire for no reason at all at one point and then he says the same thing about Yosarian2 a day or two later. I'd like to see him provide more content or at least one real case on somebody.
Sarcastro wrote:I think somebody should kill Quag.Sarcastro wrote:So anyway, I hear Yos is scum.Sarcastro wrote:Skruffs, stop acting foolish. Asking whether or not LML killed Ooba had nothing to do with whether or not I want day to end. Your logic is nonsense. Why would I feel the need to "encourage further stimulation"? What does that even mean?Sarcastro wrote:Since when do people act smart in Bad Idea-type games?
He says no one acts smart in this killing games which is true from a Bad Idea perspective, but in Bad Idea II I seem to remember him providing alot of content as he tried to convince people not to go on killing sprees. I read that game awhile back and I would expect a town sarcastro to be doing to same stuff here instead of ordering people to take out Quagmire and Yosarian without reasons.Sarcastro wrote:I'm talking about people in general.
Vote: Sarcastro
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The case on Surye is he has not gone into depth about his opinion on skitzer. He basically made a quick general summary based on what other players have been saying. Like he is conforming to others ideas without adding more. Also in his seventh post his uses some whine in front of me to say that those suspecting Skruffs were the ones that killed him. Adel was the only person that voted Skruffs so she definatly didn't kill him. Scum control who gets killed each night so I would rather not decifer it. CES made a simular nightkill wifom tell which I pointed earlier.
The case on Skitzer is he made a misconception about the exact time Yosarian began his criticism of lurkers and that he has been doing some heavy lurking as well.PokerFace wrote:
Also I fail to see what your saying here. There were more people than just Yos2 who made comments in the queue about DGB. Looks like you are just trying to protect Surye because you believe nightson's death incriminates him. Yet analyzing nightkills is some big wifom...Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Hmm.. Strange nightkill choice again.
I suppose the only thing particular about Nightson's posts is that he suspected Surye, but that's probably a distraction from the fact that the first nightkill is incriminating Yos2.
I can see where you guys are coming from on Surye but I think Sarcastro really needs to do more. I'd apreciate it if him and CES both went into detail over who they think is scum and why instead of just quick sentences. Who would you two guys vote for as being scum. I don't think you guys have voted at all this game. You've just been saying so-and-so needs shot or is scum.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Yes I am. I have never heard of nor do I have any faith in the smiley tell, but looking back I guess you have made some valid points to go along with who you believe is scum. Getting your point across is probably better than too many details. The stuff i posted about you day three is what I have left concerning you. You seemed to be coming off as wanting to promote the rash killings. At the momment I have not finished meta-ing you, but I am more convinced sarcastro is scum than you. So i am going to keep voting sarcastro.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
I could argue that the use of the rolleyes smiley is a scumtell too, actually.Yosarian2 wrote: I really can't believe that anyone is actually taking that seriously as a "scum tell". Why, exactally, is it suspicious if I automatically used the phrase "all three scum" when I've played like a bazillion games where 3 scum are the standard?
And yes, there's a possibility you said 3 scums because that's the standard in mini games, and there's a possibility that you didn't. Even because the second is only a possibility, it still makes you more likely to be scum.
That's not the point. There have been 3 nights. Since townies have nothing to do at night, it seems like a good idea for scum to act like they have nothing to do with what's going on at night either, by means of miscounting the number of night. Really, it says DAY 4 right there.Yosarian2 wrote:Uh, I was pointing out that Skitzer was wrong when he claimed that the game had spent more times in day then in night, because there had only been two nights and they'd only been 24 hours each. I'd like to hear how that's supposed to be a tell.
Vote Yos- You happy now, PokerFace? I've expressed my opinion enough. Apparently you've taken the time to see if I made any votes this game, but if you actually read the posts you checked, you'd see I've given my opinion on a lot of people. And I don't need whole paragraphs for things that can be said in one or two sentences.
This appears to be a pathetic appeal to emotion. If this was worse idea mafia where I don't die in the process and there are no nights, I would be very tempted to eliminate sarcastro right this second.Sarcastro wrote:Please don't vote for me. It is mean.
And Yosarian2 you have to unvote before you... just kidding. I still would like other players to be doing this besides me, but here is the current vote count anyway. I checked the rules and I can use other font colors just not red. And the size of font can't be altered
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Current Vote Count of Day 4:
Cogito Ergo Scum - 2(Elvis, Yosarian2)
Surye - 2(Peg, Skitzer, )
Sarcastro - 1(PokerFace)
Skitzer - 1(Surye)
Yosarian2 - 1(Cogito Ergo Scum)
Hey Claus, you voted Yosarian2 day 3. You want to keep that or change it?
Not Voting - 9(Claus?, Elmo, Ergo, Flameaxe, Kuribo, Marmalade, NabNab, Quagmire, Sarcastro)
16 people alive so its 9 votes needed
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Nobody is lit. Deadline at the 6th May.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Hey Everbody. Here is my basic opinion on what has been going on since my last post.
I remain not a fan of the Yosarian wagon. The best evidence I saw on Yosarian2 was given in post 284 by kuribo. And since Yosarian's response to it makes sence, that isn't enough to make me vote Yosarian.
Elvis Knits' original reactions to CEScum and PEG postings don't ping my scumdar. I can understand what she said about CEScum because I had a simular rection to CEScum's posts. Meanwhile I've played with PEG on irc and scumchat, so I kinda expected that out of him. I don't really think she has been fabricating cases as much as has been said, so I am not really a fan of the wagon on her either.
The Surye wagon is a wagon I have no problem with. I approve of it and can see reason for him being scum. I mentioned liking the evidence on it earlier and if a majority becomes truly necessary I may get on the wagon. But right now my vote is going to stay on Sarcastro.
Since my last posting I have taken some time to do some slight meta-gaming on a few players. I haven't done too much, but from what I've looked at I am a little less confident CEScum is scum so I probably won't be re-voting him atm. Meanwhile I am still very confident sarcastro is scum. He is not posting like I would expect from a town sarcastro.
And this post is quite a pathetic appeal to emotions. Probably the worst I have ever seen in my life. He has thrown out accusations without reasons and pretty much done nothing. He is pretty much active lurking and not really contributing in his posts. If you want I can quote or repeat what I have said about him earlier, but seriously has no one noticed Sarcastro's scumness besides me? I am greatly considering adopting the oppinion UltimaAvalon voiced earlier and taking out sarcastro myself. If the town does not meet a majority decision on who is blowing up who at deadline, I might eliminate Sarcastro myself at that time.Sarcastro wrote:Please don't vote for me. It is mean.
At any rate, here is the current vote count:
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Current Vote Count of Day 4:
Yosarian2 - 3(Cogito Ergo Scum, Claus, Elvis)
Surye - 3(PEG, Skitzer, Ergo)
Elvis - 2(NabNab, Quagmire)
Cogito Ergo Scum - 1(Yosarian2)
Sarcastro - 1(PokerFace)
Skitzer - 1(Surye)
Not Voting - 5(Elmo, Flameaxe, Kuribo, Marmalade, Sarcastro)
16 people alive so its 9 votes needed
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Well I got to go. If I missed somebody's vote let me know. I'll try and post more as i get healthier. later.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Erg0 wrote:That doesn't really look like a genuine appeal to emotion to me. It looks more like a lazy defence. I'd suggest that you come over to the correct wagon, and I'dstronglysuggest that you don't blow up a guy that nobody else finds suspicious.Sarcastro wrote:Sorry for lurking, guys - I had a brutal week of essays and exams and this game wasn't really inspiring enough to make time for.
I'm really getting annoyed with Pokerface. Seriously, what's with all this "appeal to emotion" bullshit? Do you honestly believe what I said was scummy? I can't even fathom how that could be. You look like you're reaching desperately for some kind of validation of your suspicions here. I reallywantto say it's scummy, but I might just be blinded by the fact that you're acting utterly foolish.
Alright I guess calling it a non-defence is more sensible conclusion then the one I originally made.NabakovNabakov wrote:
Present most people with something that doesn't make sense and they'll try and add their own. Either way, non-sequiter = non-defense = appeal to emotion.Sarcastro wrote:
I didn't rail on somebody who "note[d] it's a non-defense". I railed on somebody who tried to argue that itNabakovNabakov wrote:Sarcastro's defense hasn't been an appeal to emotion, but it's certainly been bullshit. Posting a non-defense and then railing on somebody who notes it's a non-defense completely skirts the issue at hand. A slow-burn red-herring.wasa defense. Read Pokerface's posts. He seems to think that I was actually trying to use an emotional appeal as a defence.
The post I made which preceded your non-defense said the following pretaining to you:
PokerFace wrote:...Sarcastro has made alot of posts with feeble amounts of content. He implies someone should kill quagmire for no reason at all at one point and then he says the same thing about Yosarian2 a day or two later. I'd like to see him provide more content or at least one real case on somebody.
Sarcastro wrote:I think somebody should kill Quag.Sarcastro wrote:So anyway, I hear Yos is scum.Sarcastro wrote:Skruffs, stop acting foolish. Asking whether or not LML killed Ooba had nothing to do with whether or not I want day to end. Your logic is nonsense. Why would I feel the need to "encourage further stimulation"? What does that even mean?Sarcastro wrote:Since when do people act smart in Bad Idea-type games?
He says no one acts smart in this killing games which is true from a Bad Idea perspective, but in Bad Idea II I seem to remember him providing alot of content as he tried to convince people not to go on killing sprees. I read that game awhile back and I would expect a town sarcastro to be doing to same stuff here instead of ordering people to take out Quagmire and Yosarian without reasons.Sarcastro wrote:I'm talking about people in general.
Vote: Sarcastro
And one of your recent posts also says certain players are scum without giving reason why?...I can see where you guys are coming from on Surye but I think Sarcastro really needs to do more. I'd apreciate it if him and CES both went into detail over who they think is scum and why instead of just quick sentences. Who would you two guys vote for as being scum. I don't think you guys have voted at all this game. You've just been saying so-and-so needs shot or is scum.
Think you could give a case or vote somebody?Sarcastro wrote:
I didn't rail on somebody who "note[d] it's a non-defense". I railed on somebody who tried to argue that itNabakovNabakov wrote:Sarcastro's defense hasn't been an appeal to emotion, but it's certainly been bullshit. Posting a non-defense and then railing on somebody who notes it's a non-defense completely skirts the issue at hand. A slow-burn red-herring.wasa defense. Read Pokerface's posts. He seems to think that I was actually trying to use an emotional appeal as a defence.
Also, Quag is full of shit.
Also, CES is scum.
Also, if you bastards let Yos live to endgame I will kill you all. I remember what happened with MoS in Bad Idea II.
I expect that there's a good chance I'll have to make the kill today, which is understandable.
You can comment on anything from my last post left out here but higher up on the page if you want to too.
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@Elmo and Marmalade, its been about a week since you 2 have posted. Care to comment on anything? Any case or opinion you have on anybody?
@Mod: Stoofer please prod.
I am going to repeat something that was brought up earlier for emphasis. We are going to need to come to some consensus/majority decision by the deadline which is set at May 2nd last I checked. Not sure if Stoofer goes by 12:01am or 11:59pm of that day for his deadlines but regardless we need to get somewhere soon. Three or four days before the deadline April 29-30 I think who ever has the most votes should be pressured to strike a light so that they can blow up the second scumiest by May 1st in case the second scumiest should refuse to suicide with them immediatly.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Huh? First you vote marmalade with pretty much no reason, and now you vote Erg0 with absolutly no reason. And your last post had a paragraph analizing some players who were already dead.Elmo wrote:^ has good timing. Or better than mine, it appears.
Yos: No harm, no foul.
There doesn't seem to be any analysis of your own, here. What's up with that?Surye wrote:So the score so far is that all Skitzer has done is lied, mislead, and lurked?
I'm pretty sure that the 'appeal to emotion' is just blithe sarcasm.
Mmm. Tentativevote:Erg0.
NabNab: Should Sarc die today? Why?
Claus: Why do you believe scum would bemorelikely to be active in this environment?
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 70#1023370
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 93#1023393
Think you can get yourself up to speed and contribute to what is actually going on now? Why Erg0 of all people?
I'm starting to develop a list of players which I believe to be scum. Elmo just got on that list with Sarcastro and Surye. Because we are nearing deadline and Erg0 is right about blowing up someone not enough people suspect, I'll be moving my vote to Surye yet still keeping an eye of Sarcastro and Elmo.
Vote: Surye
Person with highest votes should definatly strike a light by the 28th or 29th. Why must stoofer keep moving up his deadline?
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Current Vote Count of Day 4:
Surye - 4(PEG, Skitzer, Ergo, PokerFace)
Yosarian2 - 3(CEScum, Claus, Elvis)
Cogito Ergo Scum - 1(Yosarian2)
Sarcastro - 1(Quagmire)
Skitzer - 1(Surye)
Elvis - 1(NabNab)
Erg0 - 1(Elmo)
Not Voting - 5(Elmo, Flameaxe, Kuribo, Marmalade, Sarcastro)
16 people alive so its 9 votes needed
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Ok we need to hurry this along here. Deadline/no lynch = Bad. Some people are just saying some players are scummy while others are actually voting. Vote for whoever you think is scum NOW. Not voting at all is very bad. We all need to vote or reach some majority by late of the 28th-29th so that someone can blow up late 29-30. That way we beat the deadline for certain. Since we may not reach 9 votes, I think it may be necessary for whoever has the most (preferably majority but if not), should strike at light at or around the mentioned time. It may also be necessary for some enforcer to strike a light ahead of time to make sure things go through and we actually get a lynch. I remember Adel saying having the enforcers around to make sure a lynch goes through would be necessary.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 48#1015748
Quagmire or PEG if your willing to do that, that will be good or else I may have to do it myself.
Here claus said he might be willing to join the strike the light police or enforcers so if we can have someone on with a light struck as a precationary measure it may be good in order to make sure the two highest go off. Vote count hasn't changed and really it should for I think we need to do something.Claus wrote:Hmm. A vote count. Might as well post some content.
(sorry town, this game is not particularly inspiring me right now - if there is a spot open, I would like to volunteer for "strike a light police" role)...When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I am willing to support either a sarc or surye bombing. Either sounds good to me. Elmo is high on my list too but no one else seems to suspect or vote him yet.
The enforcer being lit should be only a "precautionary" measure. It is much more preferable that BOTH people going off are the two highest vote getters. The town will gain nothing from a no lynch. The town is hurt by a mislynch. Best way I can think of to avoid a mislynch is to have the voting decide those exploding, so people should be voting. And those with the most votes should be pressured to strike lights.
Here is the current vote count.
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Current Vote Count of Day 4:
Surye - 4(PEG, Skitzer, Ergo, PokerFace)
Yosarian2 - 3(CEScum, Claus, Elvis)
Cogito Ergo Scum - 1(Yosarian2)
Sarcastro - 1(Quagmire)
Skitzer - 1(Surye)
Elvis - 1(NabNab)
Erg0 - 1(Elmo)
Not Voting - 4(Flameaxe, Kuribo, Marmalade, Sarcastro)
16 people alive so its 9 votes needed
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I fixed one error (Elmo was marked voting for erg0 and voting for no one), but it has really not changed. And some people that have gotten voted are not posting in this game. Things need to change. If necessary I might strike a light too, but really I think Surye should be doing that.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Yes all those not voting definatly should be
Also I got some questions
@Claus:Can't remember if this was already answered or not. Can't find where or if it was but..
The 3 scum thing Yosarian said. Do you actually think there are 3 scum? If not then why is that still a relevant tell?
@Yosarian2:Would you be willing to strike a light and blow up Surye? I still ain't sold on you being scum but you two are the ones with the highest number of votes right now.
@Mod-Stoofer: Please Prod Surye and FlameAxe.
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The case on Sarcastro is as follows:Surye wrote:I really don't understand the case against Sarcastro... Hell, I don't understand how I have the most votes, based on one sparse comment. But Sarcastro even more so.
He has not voted or posted a valid case on any player the entire game, he has only said that certain players are scum without giving clear reasons why. No real content posted on why said player is scum so pretty much active lurking. He is not posting as I would suspect a town Sarcastro would post (meta info/read Bad idea Mafia II). His responce to said accusations have pretty much been a non-defence as he continued to point fingers at other people.
Links to relevant posts were this case is described.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 24#1025324
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 32#1025332
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 80#1030480
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 74#1030574
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 35#1031335
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 48#1031548
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 39#1032039
He is yet to vote or give a case on someone since his last post. I do supported a Sarcastro & Surye explosion. So you can pretty much consider me voting for either one. 4 votes on surye 2 on sarcastro.
Unvote, Vote: Sarcastro
now they each have 3 apiece tied with Yosarian2. What do you think of the case on sarcastro now Surye?
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Well yes I couldn't blow them both up you're right. They were both still at 3 votes back then so I was considering/thinking out loud about striking and maybe taking out sarcastro, but since it is now...kuribo wrote:
You do know that an explosion ends the day, right? You striking a light to get "both" scum doesn't help us in the least.PokerFace wrote: I am considering striking a light just in case. If they really are both scum that could be needed.
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Current Vote Count of Day 4:
Surye - 4(pickemgenius, Skitzer, Ergo, Kuribo)
Sarcastro - 3(Quagmire, NabNab, PokerFace)
Yosarian2 - 3(CEScum, Claus, Elvis)
Cogito Ergo Scum - 1(Yosarian2)
Skitzer - 1(Surye)
Erg0 - 1(Elmo)
Not Voting - 3(Flameaxe, Marmalade, Sarcastro)
16 people alive so its 9 votes needed
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Surye with most votes that probably wouldn't be right or necessary for me.
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Yosarian2 said he didn't mind a surye explosion yet did not directly say he would do it and I would also like the direct the same questionPokerFace wrote:@Yosarian2:Would you be willing to strike a light and blow up Surye? I still ain't sold on you being scum but you two are the ones with the highest number of votes right now.@SarcastroWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Current Vote Count of Day 4:
Sarcastro - 5(Quagmire, NabNab, PokerFace, Yosarian2, Elmo)
Surye - 4(pickemgenius, Skitzer, Ergo, Kuribo)
Yosarian2 - 3(CEScum, Claus, Elvis)
Skitzer - 1(Surye)
Not Voting - 3(Flameaxe, Marmalade, Sarcastro)
16 people alive so its 9 votes needed
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Considering how surye did not make good on his deal to blow himself up. He is obv scum
Vote: Surye
Let's run him up to the necessary "dynamiting" votes and then let's decide on who is blasting him.
ATM I hate to admit it but CEScum does make one good point about the sarc wagon. Some people jumped on at the last minute with little reason. Me and quag were supporting that wagon early and NabNab getting on it doesn't surprise me with the comments he made toward sarcastro earlier in the day. I moved my vote between Sarcastro and Surye since I wanted them both to go off since I believe both of them could have been scum.
I'd argue that Elmo got on the sarc wagon with the least amount of reason. I can see him as scum since he has done basically nothing in the game. He never even explained his vote on Erg0 or marmalade really. So I'd like to see Elmo and Surye blow up today.
@Flameaxe,please Vote for one of the people you mentioned so I can count it.
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Current Vote Count of Day 5:
Surye - 1(PokerFace)
Yosarian2 - 1(CEScum)
Not Voting - 11(Everyone else)
13 people alive so its 7 votes needed
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Well I'm not sure if I should count those or not. For the moment I am not going to since I believe the voting method Adel thought up is probably better considering the points she brought up in posts 111, 112. I don't really think Yosarian2 or skitzer is doing what Adel suggested scum could do with two votes but regardless I think the system we got going is still better with that in mind. If people want to disagree or have me use a new voting system then explain why, otherwise I am keeping this one in use.
@Quagmire,since PEG is gone you should pick a new enforcer replacement if you feel this is necessary.
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In general, both of you are acting a little too rashly. I recently took sometime to do some math and I looked at one of skruffs earlier posts.
Part of what Surye said earlier on this page is very valid. 3 people die with each lynching (The 2 that dynamite and the night kill)Skruffs wrote:No matter how many mafiates there are, we will need that many (x)*3 + 1 players alive.
That means if there are 3 mafiates, we need 10 players.
If there are four, (more likely in my opinion), we need 13.
If Adel in her "quick lynch" fever (just like LML and blazerunner before) is a townie who just killed another town, then going into tomorrow we will be down to 13 players, which is lylo if we have 4 mafiates. If we have five, then we've lost the game because we will not have enough players to kill the scum after today, once you take nightkills into account.
lylo arrives when we just barely have enough people left to blow up the remaining scum. If we assume 4 scum: 4*3 = 12-1+1 = 12. (One is subtracted at the end because the scum won't get a night kill after their last member dies. however that 1 is added back because we would need at least one more than 11 people alive in order to blow up the scum and have at least one townie still standing.) That would make lylo TODAY since we have 13 which is just more than 12
If there are 3 scum: 3*3 = 9-1+1 = 9. That would make lylo tomorrow when we have 10 people left. I servely doubt we have three scum because that seems unbalanced alittle, but if we do that would make Yosarian's earlier "3 scum comment" a highly valid tell. I'm going to look at his comments towards claus earlier and see if they were a valid case on claus or and OMGUS attack aimed at Claus.
The questions Surye just asked I think are rather valid. Kuribo first voted Surye Late into Day 3. What were your full reasons for getting on his case then Kuribo? I understand some of what was brought up on Surye Pre-day 4. Do you?
Yosarian2 also mentioned not liking Surye in some of his posts on Day3. I recall him mentioning some dislike for Surye then, but I can't recall why or what all he said. I'm sure I'll find it while i'm looking for his posts directed at Claus, BUT I am not against seeing him mention it again here so I ain't got to search all over. I'd like to hear Yosarian's answer.
I think I can guess what Quagmire will say, but I'll let him say it if he wants.
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I was in a hurry when I made part of my last post and missed this comment from NabNab. It is an important comment and Surye has appeared to answer some of NabNab's good comment.NabakovNabakov wrote:Claus dynamited with five hours left before deadline, roughly 7 pm Surye's time. Surye made no posts for over 12 hours before and after Elmo's posts. The story seems to check out, but you have to wonder why he made no other post in other games on the day of the deadline/why he committed himself to explode at a time when he would be away from the site.
Like I said before, I was under the impression that Surye was a dead man, so there was a need to choose another candidate and no need to pay any more attention to his wagon. Instead, we should be looking at competition between the Yos and Sarc wagons for the second candidate.
This second comment by NabNab repeats the first comment and brings up how we should do the voting wagon's of selecting who to go off. Should something happen to me i think I'd like NabNab to take care of the voting if he wouldn't mind. You accept that responcibility NabNab?NabakovNabakov wrote:This situation should not be an excuse to switch to having two votes. Once Surye is (inevitably) bandwagoned to extinction, we can use our votes to select a proper second.
I'm dissapointed in the number of people just saying "He didn't blow himself up, lol" as justification for their vote. Posting recordsdoindicate that Surye was not on for 12 hours before Elmo did the deed, that's not something you can just ignore. However, I have some misgivings about the whole situation. By all measures, Surye wouldn't have been on the site at deadline either. Whether he was just avoiding the site or couldn't legitimately post, it doesn't look good for him. (Considering that if heknewhe wasn't going to be away, he should have dynamited the last time on the site if he had the honest intention of going through with it)
I would like Surye to address these concerns before he's wagoned into oblivion.
I'll get around to tallying/posting a vote count later. Since Surye Struck a light and mentioned he will be going up I may change the style of the vote count to reflect that he is going off. But regardless I don't think anyone should blow anyone up until everyone has there say and some of these question are answered. If we are in lylo TODAY, 1 rash explosion could be the end of us so its best we stay organized.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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About to leave work so I'll make this quick.
**PART of this post is notes based on comments of others**
1. People need to stop striking lights
We are suppose to find scum and then blow them up.
Not Dance around like morons flaunting explosives
2. The following people need to stop lurking and do stuff
FlameAxe
Marmalade
Elmo <- I said he was Active/Passive lurking early and Yos just did too
Skitzer <- Some people made arguments he was lurking yesterday
3. The following people have questions directed at them that still need answered
Elmo
Yosarian2
Kuribo
FlameAxe
Quagmire - I guess he wants Yosarian gone and perfers Surye do it with how yesterday ended. So I can probably take him off here.
4.Vote count with new format (SAME RULES THOUGH) and light info included
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Vote Count info of Day 5:
Lit Enforcer: Quagmire
-No one voted for him to light
Lit Vote Getter: Surye
-4(PokerFace, Elvis, Ergo, Kuribo) He should have waited for 7
Lit Vote Getter: Yosarian
-1(CEScum) He should have waited for 7
Kuribo - 1(Surye)
Not Voting - (Everyone not mentioned elsewhere)
13 people alive SO IT SHOULD BE 7 VOTES NEEDED
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Yosarian tried to vote for both of CEScum and Surye
Skitzer Tried to vote for both ofinda" voted for this
Those voicing opinions of Surye and Yosarian blowing up without voting:
Flameaxe & Quagmire
Elvis supports some combo of Surye/Yos/Kuribo
@CEScum,I already mentioned part of why I moved from Sarc to Surye and then back to Sarc. Thought Sarc was scum, moved to Surye because I also thought he could be scum and I did not want a no lynch. Moved back to Sarc since having them both blow up would take care of suspicions I had on both of them. If you want me to go into more detail I will or you can look back at all I said day 3.
Elmo jumped on Sarc and was never really on Surye
NabNab jumped on Sarc and was never really on Surye
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Skitzer Tried to vote for both of Surye and Yosarian2
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We are in probably in lylo so light striking without some organization can be bad since I believe concensus and organization has a better chance of hitting scum. I don't think I ignored/missed anything, but I'll look back nonetheless.Yosarian2 wrote:Pokerface: What question did I have directed at me, exactally?
Anyway, I made damn clear why I had to strike a light, I'm not sure why you ignored it, Pokerface...
Also here is the question. I haven't found time to look back, been busy but I still slightly remember you saying you had some suspicion on Surye Day3.
Am I misremembering or did you have any suspicions about Surye then?PokerFace wrote:...Yosarian2 also mentioned not liking Surye in some of his posts on Day3. I recall him mentioning some dislike for Surye then, but I can't recall why or what all he said. I'm sure I'll find it while i'm looking for his posts directed at Claus, BUT I am not against seeing him mention it again here so I ain't got to search all over. I'd like to hear Yosarian's answer...When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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@Kuribo,Why did you just strike a light? Is it to hit NabNab because if Surye is still your intended target that wasn't necessary. We should be voteing and not recklessly striking a light out of no where.
Also could you answer this:
There was a case on Surye Day4, and I would like to know what were the reasons that prompted you to joining his wagon. Refresh my memory and include any reasons of your own in more detail if you would.PokerFace wrote:The questions Surye just asked I think are rather valid. Kuribo first voted Surye Late into Day 3. What were your full reasons for getting on his case then Kuribo?
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I finally found the time to take a second look at some of the comments between Yosarian2 and Claus. Claus had some valid points in his case on Yosarian2. And I believe that possibly both of them took things a little to far about the lurker disagreement making the other scum. Claus had more on Yosarian than just the disagreement while Yosarian2 mainly had the interaction about the disagreement as a case on claus.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 32#1023632
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 08#1027408
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 72#1030572
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 89#1036689
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 91#1037291
I thought Claus explained his case but aparently not well enough for yosarian2.
[joke]Last i checked disagreeing with Yosarian2 is not a scumtell or else Mr. Stoofer would always be town.[/joke]
@Yosarian,I have noticed stretches of time in which marmalade has had little posting. He did not post over a course of 8 days between Apr 18th and the 26th and then 10 more days between Apr 28th and May 8th. He has not really contributed much in this game and he did not vote yesterday and should have provided more content as deadline loomed. I have mentioned him to be somewhat lurking. Do you believe he is lurking? I think NabNab more so voted him for what he believes is a contradiction.
@Elmo,you think you could comment on some more recent posts? Your votes with little reason still bother me aswell. You need to give more reason when you do vote. I still have no clue why you jumped on marmalade and Erg0 earlier.
@Flameaxe,your last post was on May 2nd. Think you could vote or say something up to date?
Last I checked the deadline is the 16th we need some kind of consensus here.
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Vote Count info of Day 5:
Lit Enforcer: Quagmire
-No one voted for him to light
Lit Vote Getter: Surye
-4(PokerFace, Elvis, Ergo, Kuribo) He should have waited for 7
Lit Vote Getter: Yosarian
-1(CEScum) He should have waited for 7
Lit Vote Getter: Kuribo
-1(Surye) He should have waited for 7
Marmalade - 1(NabNab)
NabNab - 1(Yosarian2)
Not Voting - (Flameaxe, Marmalade, Skitzer, Quagmire, Elmo)
13 people alive SO IT SHOULD BE 7 VOTES NEEDED
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Something more, an open question directed at anyone that feels like answering it. Since certain people are already lit, do you believe we should still count votes toward them? I'll tell you my view on this later.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I have 2 problems with Kuribo
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He yells at Surye for pointing to the nightkill and then he does it himself. Kinda feels like the pot calling the kettle black.kuribo wrote:
Further, I see the comment about the NK as scummy because it seems like you're trying to sow confusion in the town by pointing out an odd NK.Surye wrote:CES scares me mostly because I see him as the next irrational player that will blow up someone at the drop of a hat, but I'm not convinced he's scum at this point. Scum has no incentive to blow them selves up, and CES seems pretty convincing he'd take someone out when he feels justified (even if town doesn't..).
I'm pretty confused by the night kill choice myself, I have a suspicion that all the calling out of him as likely scum, and then him dieing, may be a tactic to distance scum from the kill, but I am not sure of this, what is everyone else's take on this choice?
...AND LATER...
Pickemgenius comes out of almost nowhere to call you "def scum." He dies that night. Usually I don't take much stock in NK discussion. But, tell me, Surye--- did you think you'd found a cop?Surye wrote:
Both of them? I can see how the most resent can be seen as somewhat scummy, though after re-reading, that is exactly what I found, I'd like to see where I am wrong.pickemgenius wrote:vote: surye
def scum.
reading his most two recent posts have convinced me.
And what is wrong with my second to last post? I'm not sure what you don't like about it.
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He got on the Surye wagon real late day 4, just as Surye made an attack toward him. If he really beleived so strongly in the big case he gave on Surye, I think he would have gotten on surye when the more pressing arguments were first given. Getting on late and now giving all those reasons makes me think he is being a little opportunistic.2.
As far as Yosarian2 goes, I have been getting a little bit of the impression that he is just lashing back at whoever attacks him now. He used to be attacking Elvis earlier in the game and now he has laid off of her as she has not been pushing as hard on him as she was before. HOWEVER Yosarian2's recent comments do have some valid points so I suppose it isn't exactly OMGUS. He has also not attacked everyone on him. He has considered quagmire to be town.
At this point I think I'd be willing to let Surye choose which he takes with him. And if he does not make a choice this time, then somebody should definately take Surye out. I'll post an updated vote count shortly.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Quoted For Truth and Emphasis!!NabakovNabakov wrote:All people not voting for one of the people they would like to explode are doing themselves a great disservice. All people who aren't actively attempting to decide who they would like to explode are doing the town a great disservice.
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Vote Count info of Day 5:
Lit Enforcer: Quagmire
-No one voted for him to light
Lit Vote Getter: Surye
-4(PokerFace, Elvis, Ergo, Kuribo) He should have waited for 7
Lit Vote Getter: Kuribo
-1(Surye, NabNab) He should have waited for 7
Lit Vote Getter: Yosarian
-1(CEScum) He should have waited for 7
NabNab - 1(Yosarian2)
Not Voting - (Flameaxe, Marmalade, Skitzer, Quagmire, Elmo)
13 people alive SO IT SHOULD BE 7 VOTES NEEDED
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I can guess who FlameAxe and Quagmire want to vote for, but I'd prefer they did it and not just encouraged the explosions. Skitzer, Elmo, and Marmalade what the hell are you doing?
@Mod-Stoofer: Please Prod Marmalade and Skitzer they have not posted since last thursday.
And Yosarian2, I still want to know what your opinion on marmalade is.PokerFace wrote:@Yosarian,I have noticed stretches of time in which marmalade has had little posting. He did not post over a course of 8 days between Apr 18th and the 26th and then 10 more days between Apr 28th and May 8th. He has not really contributed much in this game and he did not vote yesterday and should have provided more content as deadline loomed. I have mentioned him to be somewhat lurking. Do you believe he is lurking?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Looking back there were actually 2 mistakes in my last vote count, my bad. And Surye only pointed out one of these.
Lit Vote Getter: Surye
-5(PokerFace, Elvis, Ergo, Kuribo,Skitzer) He should have waited for 7
Lit Vote Getter: Kuribo
-2(Surye, NabNab) He should have waited for 7
Skitzer still needs to post though since May 8th which was 6days ago and if I forgot to mention any other lurkers they need to speak too.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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You have an odd theory there CEScum. I already gave some reasons why I was between both Sarc's wagon and Surye's wagons day four. If they aren't enough for you then oh well. But tell me, you got anything else on me besides being between those wagons?
Also there are a few other things I need to say to you based on post584 and some stuff from day5. (0 is a comment and not so much a question)
0. Don't use the red color font.Before I started doing the vote count thing I was told not to use red since it is suppose to only be used for dynamiting. I suggest no body use red like that. You can bold my name and make it black if you feel that is necessary. Or do something else just not use Red.
1. What about Yosarian's interaction with Surye makes you think he is not scum with Surye?Basically why are you getting off his case so quickly? It seems uncharacteristic of you. After all you pushed so hard on him. Even after saying this half way through yesterday:
You went right back at him with these:Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Surye:Don't dynamite yet.
I think Yos' latest posts are actually quite townish. I suggest taking a look at the other switchers, Elmo & Pokerface (since NabNab's already backup enforcer) before someone gets overeager.
Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:I wantYosto blow upSurye.
Also at the begining of Day 5 why did you vote Yosarian over Surye?Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Yos, if you're town, blow up Surye!
Surye, if you're town, blow up Yos!
Kuribo, if you're town, start making sense. NabNab is the backup-enforcer, and shouldn't be dynamited at least yet.
Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:I'm back, and last day was a disaster.
Surye and Yos are probably scum together. Notice how people jumped from Surye to Sarc after lights were struck, without much new reasons to do so.
Vote Yos
Since we got it setup so you can only vote for one person, the person you find the scummiest; What detail would make you put your vote on Yosarian instead of someone who avoided going off as Surye did on day 4? Yosarian was on Sarcastro's wagon as well day 4.
2. Erg0had alot of pro-town logic on day 3 around when UltimaAvalon and Adel 'got stoofed'. He also pushed hard on Surye being guilty. Do you actually see him being scummier than Marmalade and FlameAxe, two people that have rarly if at all voted? What are your thoughts on this?
3. I recognize that NabNab is an enforcer, but where on your suspicon list would you put him?What color shade and why out of curiosity?
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Wow the thread went silent for a while. Were you all waiting for me? You don't have to. We got too many lurkers as is.
Excuse me, but when you voted Yosarian at the begining of the day when he had not yet struck a light. The point I am driving at is that you voted Yosarian over Surye. You are suppose to voted for the scumiest. At the start of day 5 did you actually think Yosarian was scummier than a guy that did not go off like Surye did?Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:
Hardly.PokerFace wrote:But tell me, you got anything else on me besides being between those wagons?
It's not really his interaction with Surye. Some of Surye's posts mention Yos in a way that looks like more than distancing. It's just a minor point in his favor, though. His behavior yesterday is far more important to me.PokerFace wrote:1. What about Yosarian's interaction with Surye makes you think he is not scum with Surye?Basically why are you getting off his case so quickly? It seems uncharacteristic of you. After all you pushed so hard on him. Even after saying this half way through yesterday:
Order is preferable above chaos. That's why I wouldn't want to vote for someone who hadn't struck a light. kuribo was actually high on my town list, higher than Yos. Hence the choice for Yos as dynamiter.PokerFace wrote:Since we got it setup so you can only vote for one person, the person you find the scummiest; What detail would make you put your vote on Yosarian instead of someone who avoided going off as Surye did on day 4? Yosarian was on Sarcastro's wagon as well day 4.
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At any rate here is the big comment I promised. My analysis on Surye's and CEScum's interactions and comments:
This is quite a bit of BS here. I don't recall you ever saying anything hostile toward Adel. Nothing directed at her that would make the two of you go off together.Surye wrote:The top of my suspicions right now are Skruffs, Yos, and CES. And I really don't find CES particularly scummy so much as wildly dangerous to a town win, he seems to far driven by emotion, and if anyone sets adel off, I see it being him. Skruffs and Yos seem to be somewhat bussing by focusing on moot points, but I'm not sure.
The only answer I can think of for him to mention you at all like this would be distancing. These comments were around a time when both Elvis, skruffs and myself were voting you. Its usually a good idea to distance yourself from a scum buddy when they have a wagon on them. That's what i think Surye was doing in these posts.Surye wrote:CES scares me mostly because I see him as the next irrational player that will blow up someone at the drop of a hat, but I'm not convinced he's scum at this point. Scum has no incentive to blow them selves up, and CES seems pretty convincing he'd take someone out when he feels justified (even if town doesn't..).
I'm pretty confused by the night kill choice myself, I have a suspicion that all the calling out of him as likely scum, and then him dieing, may be a tactic to distance scum from the kill, but I am not sure of this, what is everyone else's take on this choice?
You also too used WIFOM around a night kill. And this WIFOM tell kinda defends Surye while atacking Yosarian2.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Hmm.. Strange nightkill choice again.
I suppose the only thing particular about Nightson's posts is that he suspected Surye, but that's probably a distraction from the fact that the first nightkill is incriminating Yos2.
Are you really happy over a dead scum? This too is a scum tell. I also mentioned some earlier summy remarks about you in this game back when that wagon was on you. I can repeat them if you forget them. Of all players currently alive, i am leaning towards CEScum being a partner with Surye.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Finally.
A dead scum should surely give us some information. I don't feel like rereading today, but I will do so tomorrow.
Vote: Cogito Ergo Scum
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Odd, thats not the assumption I was expecting. The posts where the two of them interact according to your analysis are 221 and 527. I'm going to have to look back at those posts to see what you mean.
Oddly enough it seems the player list now only has three people if you catch my drift. More posting would be apreciated by all. Since Skitzer went through all of Surye's posts I am wondering what his take on those posts I mentioned is. Do you see it as distancing or do you believe CEScum's deduction is more rational?
ATM I suppose it is another possibility, but it doesn't explain everything.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:2) Those comments are definitelynotdistancing, but they're comments from a scum trying to cast doubt on someone's townness.
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The main/primary reason I am voting you is really because of this:
I'll explain it further now.PokerFace wrote:
You also too used WIFOM around a night kill. And this WIFOM tell kinda defends Surye while atacking Yosarian2.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Hmm.. Strange nightkill choice again.
I suppose the only thing particular about Nightson's posts is that he suspected Surye, but that's probably a distraction from the fact that the first nightkill is incriminating Yos2.
1) Scum control who dies at night. Because they control the result it is usually not a good idea to analyze the death for you can run into WIFOM.
2) As you analyze the previous deaths you say that the last night kill implicates Surye. You then undermine your own logic by saying that is probably a distraction.
From this I get the impression that you are trying to setup a pre-emptive defense against attack for Surye. No player had yet looked at the night kill so I can see this action as a possible pre-emptive defence for a paranoid scumbuddy.
3) You said it was probably a distraction from the fact that the first night kill incriminates Yosarian.
So its okay to look at one night kill and not the other? Parts of your logic undermines itself and the basis of your logic is wifom that I can see as a pre-emptive defence for Surye as well as an attack of Yosarian. Someone people were viewing as scummy.
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Now you kinda avoided this question earlier.PokerFace wrote:Excuse me, but when you voted Yosarian at the begining of the day when he had not yet struck a light. The point I am driving at is that you voted Yosarian over Surye. You are suppose to voted for the scumiest.At the start of day 5did you actually think Yosarian was scummier than a guy that did not go off like Surye did?
I am asking if you actually found Yosarian scummier than Surye back then. Yes or No? And Why?Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:1) I thought Yos was town because of the way he behaved after Quag struck a light, so, yes, I suspected him before that moment.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Yosarian2 wrote:Hmmm...
Looking at the end of the day yesterday, I don't really like NN's behavior. It kind of feels like he's looking for some alternative to the Suyve bandwagon; first he goes after me, then just about the time when it becomes obveous I'm completly willing to blow him up he backs down and goes after kuribo.vote:NabakovNabakov
From these two posts from quagmire:Yosarian2 wrote:
Hmm. Interesting. I guess how he goes about doing his enforcer duties today is likely to give us information about his alignment, assuming he survives, but I'm not sure that's enough reason to let him totally off the hook for today.Cogito Ergo Scum wrote:Yes, I noticed this too, but I think it's not very productive to go after the enforcer.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 47#1045647
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 48#1045648
I kinda got the impression Quagmire made NabNab the enforcer over Kuribo because he was begining to suspect NabNab some. If NabNab is really scum, his actions around enforcing should indeed tell us. As it stands I don't really see a problem with people voting the enforcers as long as the suspicions are waranted. Should an enforcer be voted to light we will just need some people to volunteer to be the next enforcers or something like that.
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I looked back at those posts and I kinda think you are, Skitzer. I suppose what Surye said could have been boasting, but considering Elmo said "Stop striking lights" around the time UA and Adel blew up, I don't see Elmo's statement as boasting. I also don't think Quagmire was scared of Elmo and Flameaxe.skitzer wrote:sigh...
Surye was scum.
Elmo said "STOP STRIKING A LIGHT YOU MORONS"
Surye later quoted this post and said "game winning post."
Am I the only one that sees this as a boastful remark between two scum?
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 44#1048744
Some things in those quotes I think were getting taken out of context. The only significant conection between Surye and Elmo I saw is the one yosarian mentioned here:
I'd like Elmo's answer to that question.Yosarian2 wrote:Hmmm. Elmo hasn't really done all that much this game, has he? He voted Marmalade, then later couldn't remember why; he agreed with Adel and my stratagy advice in general terms. The timing for his sarc vote looks bad. Said he didn't think Surye was scum, never explained why.
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Something else, NabNab why marmalade?Do you have more reason because he not the only lurker. Also I recently got bored and read newbie games 564 and 578. Those games are now completed and marmalade was lurking heavy throughout both of them. Just thought I'd bring that up. He was scum in one of those newbie games and town in the other so how much he lurks didn't seem to be a definitive factor between those two games. Marmalade has not posted on the site since the 17th of May. I kinda wish I had noticed that aspect before Stoofer took his leave because we will probably be needing a replacement for him.
Also I posted this during the last day and Yosarian never comented on it.@Yosarian,I have noticed stretches of time in which marmalade has had little posting. He did not post over a course of 8 days between Apr 18th and the 26th and then 10 more days between Apr 28th and May 8th. He has not really contributed much in this game and he did not vote yesterday and should have provided more content as deadline loomed. I have mentioned him to be somewhat lurking. Do you believe he is lurking? I think NabNab more so voted him for what he believes is a contradiction.Yosarian2you have mentioned the need for pressure on lurkers throughout this game. You often said Flameaxe and Elmo needed to post more but you never said anything about marmalade even when I made that coment yesterday. I would say Marmalade was lurking just as much especially since he has not been voting. Anything you want to say, Yosarian2?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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PokerFace - 1(Cogito Ergo Scum)
Marmalade - 1(NabNab)
NabNab - 1(Yosarian2)
Elmo - 1(Skitzer)
Not Voting - (Elmo, Elvis, Erg0, FlameAxe, Marmalade)
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Well I'm an idiot
I thought the deadline would be on next firday morning but considering how Kuribo took down Surye a bit ahead of time its on the morning of the 3rd of June a tuesday. With CEScum on leave it is now difficult for me to get him to strike a light. I guess I'll have to do it myself on Saturday-Sunday assuming thats what everybody wants. I suggest the enforcer (NabNab) strikes his light at or around the same time. As it stands the vote count hasn't changed, it needs to because everyone at one vote doesn't really say who should blow up who. I'd say my top two suspects are CEScum and Elmo. I'd like to hear Elmo's answer to NabNab's question because I have been considering him as being worse than CEScum. People need to vote who they want to go off now. People like Flameaxe need to post.Mr Stoofer wrote:ALIGHT
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Deadline will be ~3rd June.
@Flameaxe,please vote or do something. Who would you like to see go off?
^everybody should be asking themselves that question really.
Also there is something i want to say if I'm not here for day 7. I ain't going to lie to you, Yosarian2. Near the end of day 5 alot of your comments seemed to come off as retalitory and omgus. Now mind you they weren't exactly that since you gave some good reasons for thinking as you did, but they still felt like omgus because of the ferocity you were displaying towards those attacking you. I also noticed that you attacked Elmo and Flameaxe for lurking. Yosarian you did attack every lurker except for one. I was keeping track and the one lurker you did not mention was Marmalade. In some ways I was considering you as being scum near the end of day 5 and the possibily, marmalade was a scum buddy of yours.
ATM I don't think you are scum. I'm disagreeing with this day 5 impression. Regardless the thought did cross my mind so I thought I'd get that out there. I still think the possibility of only 3 scum is false. That's about as balanced as a 2-ton elephant walking on a fishing line thin tight rope. But that doesn't mean you can't be in a group of 4. That's all I wanted to say. My suspicions in Elmo and CEScum are alot stronger at the moment.
Everybody needs to start checking in an weighing in on who they want to blow up.
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@Mod - Mr. Stoofer, any chance you could extend the deadline and send out some proddings?
Marmalade - not posted since May 8th
Flameaxe - not posted since May 11th
Everyone else has at least posted once during day 6
STRIKE A LIGHT
NabNab should be doing this at sometime today aswell, or else I may have to kill him for not fufilling his enforcer duties. I am not sure who I'll target at this time (Elmo, CEScum, NabNab, Yosarian) those are people I actually have either large or small suspicions on.
According to the math I gave here earlier in the game
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 39#1044839
We could theoretically afford a no-lynch, but since we are not really at a stage where there are alot of suspicions or improving our odds is optimal, I don't think a no-lynch would be good play at this point. I strike a light at this time in an attempt to get scum and keep the town and this game alive.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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*Current deadline is June 3rd*
I don't know if stoofer will be able to move the deadline or not so having someone with a light struck right now is indeed necessary.
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PokerFace - 1(Cogito Ergo Scum)
Marmalade - 1(NabNab)
NabNab - 1(Yosarian2)
Elmo - 1(Skitzer)
Not Voting - (Elmo, Elvis, Erg0, FlameAxe, Marmalade)
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IT HAS NOT CHANGED AND SHOULD. WITH EVERYONE AT ONE VOTE IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE A CONSENSUS WILL BE REACHED AND THAT IS NOT GOOD.
Yet I am a fan of gambling, I am PokerFace.
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Laziness or not you need to look at what has been happening and say something. Also Elmo would you mind giving some reasons for wanting Yosarian to die?
If I were to pick between elmo or NabNab to go off I'd pick elmo. I'm not sure if I'll blow up CEScum or not. I am not a fan of the idea of attacking a man when he is not around to do anything about it. Ain't entirely sporting so I may choose to take out Elmo should you guys vote for that more. I give no gaurantees either way since voting is still suppose to be going on. People playing need to vote and say who they want to go off and if they have a preference on which of the three struck should go off. I don't want to go off/blow up someone else without some ammount of consent from others, that is important.
Regardless I'll see if I can modify my sleep schedule so that I'm awake to go off at least an hour before 9am BST tuesday since that has been Stoofer's traditional deadline time so far. If Stoofer has not moved the deadline and someone else has not already gone off, i'll figure out who I'm hitting and go off at that time. The person I hit will either be whoever has most votes or someone I mentioned suspecting earlier.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Well it looks like Stoofer is not going to move the deadline. NabNab or Elmo if one of you wants to make the kill be my guest I won't be killing until the time I specified earlier. If you think I won't be awake then go ahead and do it. I should be able to be awake at that time if I plan things out right. If I later feel there is no way I'll be awake I'll let you know and make the kill earlier.
Still not sure who I'll hit, most likly CEScum or Elmo or someone the players support. Other options I have considered but will probably not do would be NabNab or Yosarian. How they got on the sarc wagon and touched on surye's scuminess would be only reasons, I suspect them very slightly. Only vote that has changed is Elvis voted Skitzer for reaching in his case on Elmo. Skitzer's comments on Surye being connected to Elmo through Surye's post are a bit of a reach from my point of view but the connection from a view of Elmo's posts don't seem like a stretch to me.
Something I can't explain that has crossed my mind while writing the above. I got a feeling "somebody wants" me to kill Elmo. Threat of this being lylo and mislynch ending the game paranoia perhaps, but I want to get all my thoughts out there before I go off. Make no mistake I will do all in my power to make the right choice should it become necessary
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I am not big on Flameaxe dieing because I've seen him be lazy townie like this quite recently. Check Loser Mafia.
Elmo's lurking/lazyiness? is something I can't place. I can't see it being a way of determining his alignment one way or the other so I consider it a null issue in determining his allignment. If flameaxe knows more about that issue I'd be glad to here it.
I see absolutly no reason to blow Elvis up. I stated earlier that if I'm dead I'd like her or someone else to volunteer to do the vote counting. I've seen her as being town for pretty much the entire game. Elmo just randomly saying she needs to go off with no case on her looks very OMGUS.
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As far as who would want me to get elmo its simply a conspiracy theory that is nagging me in the back of my head. A crazy idea where skitzer, CES, and Yos would want me to do that. Possibly paranoia but if I place the exact reason that vibe has crossed my mind I'll bring it up.
Something I think people should keep in mind, on the bizarre chance we mislynch today and it is not game over, then that means there are 3 scum (2 would be a mockery of anything remotly balanced). So Yosarian should be put under heavy pressure because nobody would have guessed there were three scum and his slip would be incredibly telling.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Actually I should probably clarify this better. In Loser mafia he didn't lurk like he has been doing here but he was exceptionally lazy when you consider the fact that he never really scumhunted at all in that game. Read his posts in that game yourself. If you still want to get him for lurking I prefer he just stepped it up or got replaced instead of going boom.PokerFace wrote:I am not big on Flameaxe dieing because I've seen him be lazy townie like this quite recently. Check Loser Mafia.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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^Made 8:33 am in my timezone (USA-EST which is GMT-4 during the summer)Mr Stoofer wrote:Hi all, I am back.
The deadline will hit in 15 hours and 27 minutes from this post.
That would make deadline be at midnight in my timezone so I should easily be awake around 11pm or 11:30pm. I usually don't go to bed til way after that anyway. If someone else has not already gone off I'll pick who I'm taking with me based on what the town has been saying or what I myself have already said. It should be obvious to you all by now who I've been considering.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Odd that's not what I expected CEScum to do. Is he unvoting me out of fear or are those comments genuine I'll have to think on that. Him saying my last posts were good despie them saying I am probably going to blow him up comes off as wierd.
It is currently just after 8pm in my timezone (8:08).Deadline is in four hours I'll go off in about three if someone don't beat me to it.Can't remember if NabNab ever mentioned what time zone he is in at the momment. If you are on the West Coast of USA, 11pm my time zone would be 8pm yours. If you are not in america I got no clue what time zone you would be in or what time deadline would be in relation to you. If you got a target, feel like being galant, or if you are genuinly aprehensive about having me do it then you can over step me. Otherwise I'll do my best to see you guys in about 3 hours. People should still be voting and posting right now as the end of the day nears.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Check that did math wrong. In summer daylight saving time
8:33am site clock is really 9:33am my time zone so
7:20pm site clock is really 8:20pm my timezone.
8:33am + 15h = 11:33pm + 27 minutes = 12am site clock which would be 1am my time zone. I got more time then I thinking.
Deadline is really 4 hours and 40 minutes from now.
At any rate going with 2 hour leeway is better than 1 so I'll still see you guys in about 3 hours anyway unless nabnab/elmo goes off ahead of time. Still leaning toward hitting CEScum. I'll at least be giving him some time to do something more if I still want to take him out later. Still would prefer elmo going off over NabNab since Elmo is more suspicious. I'll post another copy of the vote count should I feel its necessary. I'm going to look at CEScum in isolation shortlyWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I lean towards agreeing with Erg0's recent postings. i'll say so why shortly working on big post. Elmo should be giving reasons why he thought about killing Yosarian earlier. Pot calling kettle black scenario.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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which ever it is.
And I actually think erg0 may have given more reasons for certain thoughts than Elmo has been doing. Understand though that I am not leaning on killing elmo at this moment. more on that later big post on wayWhen I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Here are all posts where Yosarian mentions Surye before Today hopefully i did not miss any.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 26#1019826
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 57#1025057
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 18#1033618
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 55#1037755
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 06#1038106
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 76#1041076
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 69#1044369
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 14#1045714
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 76#1046076
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 35#1046235
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 48#1052548
insomenot all of these Yosarian (basically day 4 stuff or 2-4 links here) He mentions suspicions of Surye, but does not go greatly in depth. He does not go too far in depth as to why he suspects him seems like he is just agreeing with the group.
Here are all posts where CEScum mentions Surye before today
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 90#1019490
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 66#1028566
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 58#1040658
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 86#1046486
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 66#1046666
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 01#1053201
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 58#1055458
He seems to always believe Yosarian is scumier and stays primarily focused on Yosarian. He didn't really say much on why he personally thought Surye was scum ever. Could argue that there has perhaps been some tunnel vision between Yos and CEScum over the course of the game when wagons were on them and they were atacking each other.
I'd be willing to bet at least 1 of them, possibly both of them is scum with Surye. Got to get it right the first time to make sure this game stays alive. Yos hasn't posted in awhile I kinda thought he'd weigh in some before deadline. I think he has been online today. If he is lurking that would be for fail.
I am actually starting to consider the scum group existing among the players CEScum, Yosarian, perhaps Skitzer for some recent comments from CEScum. It should be noted that both of them made comments about Surye's death that seemed to portray joy. I have trouble thinking they are really joyful. If I were to stake alot on the vibe of CEScum and skitzer wanting me to hit Elmo. Evidence for that would be Skitzer's case on Elmo and CEScum's earlier colored scum listings. Yosarian quickly made a triple post and mentioned elmo earlier i would he woulkd chip in more on that matter. Marmalade is another possibility for scum but more so only if Yosarian is in the group.
If Elmo is scum, the town would get little info from his death and have trouble finding other scum so it may be best i take out one of CEScum of Yosarian. I think Yosarian pushed more on Surye going boom then CEScum did. Only thing that favors me taking out Yosarian over CEScum would be the fact that CEScum is inline for enforcership. If you are reading this NabNab you perhaps should name a second enforcer because I think i will be hitting CEScum. 11pm is less than an hour from now if you or anyone gots something to say you better do it now. I may wait and give you alittle time but I will definatly make the kill before there is only 1 hour left. If there is anyone out there that remotly thinks I'm bluffing you should realize that my name is Pokerface for good reason. I don't bluff.
For shits and giggles to see who lady luck favors I hit
1=Yos
2=CEScum
Original Roll String: 1d21 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1
I will of course listen to myself over lady luck anyday so keep that in mind.
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Odd preview had that as a 2 and the submission sent it to 1. Oh well I still favor my own judgment over dice anyway. Though it was meant as a joke for fun, it could most likely bite me in my ass if I am arround tomorrow and thus would harm the town as well. I would definatly perfer I go off over NabNab today.
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Vote Count info of Day 6:
Cogito Ergo Scum - 1(PokerFace)
Marmalade - 1(NabNab)
NabNab - 1(Yosarian2)
Elmo - 1(Skitzer)
Skitzer - 1(Elvis)
Not Voting - (Elmo, Cogito Ergo Scum, Elvis, Erg0, FlameAxe, Marmalade)
10 people alive so it should be 6 votes needed
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People lit: Me, NabNab, Elmo
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So you actually want to kill someone? I'd obvious prefered I could play the game longer since I'm having too much fun but I best get myself in check because that dice joke thing probably went to far.
Who and why do you want to kill them, Elmo?
Any particular reason you want to go off? Worried about suspicions on you, bored/lazy with game or is there another reason I not considering. I'll be online until I do go off or someone else does it.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I need to calm down a bit.
I see you as scumier than NabNab. I think I should go off over NabNab at this point. If he wants to disagree and jump in here he can.
If you, Elmo want to go off make sure you have a good target in mind there is still a great possibility of lylo.
As far as you being possibly connected to yos, skitzer, CEScum I see that as highly unlikly.
Connections I see linking NabNab to scum would be how nabNab voted Sarc and did not push hard Surye yesterday. He pushed more on kuribo.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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cool we are all online right now. I think much less of either of you being scum now. Let us continue discussing in real time.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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I am willing to take out CEScum. Do either of you object? If Elmo wants to make the kill he should say who and why.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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ok I just now read Elmo's last post he said he'd go in 15 minutes. I'd like him to mention a definate target before then. I don't see Erg0 as scummy. Only things he remotly did as scummy was lurk alot and say UA could blow up Adel if he wanted, when it was revealed that UA was still alive "kinda".
If elmo don't go off in 15 I'll go off in 25 and hit CEScum.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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EBWOP: by last post I was refering to 680. Serious ninjaing and snarthage going on here.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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If elmo does not go off at the time he says I'll be hiting CEScum the time I said. Any objection NabNab?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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very well as long as you don't want to claim overburdened and go off on some choice I will.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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15 minutes have gone by are you going to do it or not?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Format looks correct yet i would have prefered you made a different choice
CEScum much scumier than Yosarian. Any particular reasoning of your own you want to mention Elmo?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Well let's hope he is scum, there is no turning back. I understand some of what Erg0 said so I considered CEScum as much more likly being scum than Yosarian.
Assuming I am here Day 7, I'll be glad to clarify anything I recently said since some of it is rushed and erratic. I kinda flew off the handle a little bit since I wanted to have a little bit of fun. Quagmire had fun when he bluffed Yosarian and I kinda overdid it alittle. If you guys want me to go off next as a result I see that as being cool. I'll double check your format again before I go to bed.When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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