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Post Post #22 (isolation #0) » Wed May 07, 2008 12:06 pm

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I believe the first person Talitha votes today is scum.

As a result, I am waiting for Talitha to vote.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #1) » Thu May 08, 2008 6:12 am

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vote Mathcam


Talitha has spoken.

Now let it be done!
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Post Post #38 (isolation #2) » Thu May 08, 2008 9:57 am

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Cam, what do you think of the fact that Talitha has found you guilty scum scum.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #3) » Sat May 10, 2008 11:58 pm

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Disavowment of Responsbility is a tradition at Mafiascum.

Why you getting worked up over it now Cam?

Cuz vote's on you?
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Post Post #82 (isolation #4) » Sun May 11, 2008 8:53 pm

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Where is the Sky?
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Post Post #130 (isolation #5) » Wed May 14, 2008 6:24 am

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Cam's cries of fustration reek of Scumbag who can't believe he might be lynched for no good reason.(Well no good reason from his point of view)

I likey.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #6) » Wed May 14, 2008 6:28 am

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and in my defense Macros, in that game I acted like a complete noncontributive sheep, it was only because a significant portion of the town was acting in the same noncontributive manner and the scum CLEARLY were shooting every contributing player at night.

Considering the importance of my role to the town, I do think it was rather good play that I decided to play "stupid sheep" in order to survive.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #7) » Wed May 14, 2008 6:30 am

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Cam, would you disagree with me when I say all random voting on Day one is equivalent to the Divestment of Responsbility i performed when I echoed Talitha's vote?

In fact I would argue that I take MORE responsbility for my vote than a player who has divested through random voting due to the fact that I actively picked the player whom I was going to follow, whereas a random voter does not actively pick anything.

Considering how much random voting is practiced across the forum, how can you say my vote is more of a scummy nature?
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Post Post #156 (isolation #8) » Wed May 14, 2008 1:05 pm

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Glork is so scum.

Seriously a player gets wagoned on Day ONE.

and you want FIVE REASONS FOR THE WAGON?

The demand on DGB is absurd to begin with, you're almost setting her up to fail.

The idea of needing to produce five solid concrete reasons for THE FIRST DAY ONE BANDWAGON IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.

I REPEAT.

ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.

Do you honestly expect a scumbag to commit not just one slip but FIVE SLIPS this early into day one for her to call him out on?

You are just setting her up to fail so you can pounce on her.

It's mindbogglingly stupid play. If we needed FIVE GOOD REASONS to wagon someone on day @#$%ING one we would GET NOWHERE.

And then when she does produce reasons(That aren't an amazing ironclad case, I wonder why. Maybe its cuz she doesnt have much to work with on DAY ONE?)

You hit her with REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEACH.

Which totally pisses me off to no end.

You asked somebody who jumped on the first day one bandwagon for FIVE good reasons when we're only SIX PAGES into the game and you're surprised some of her reasons are a REACH?

Seriously this absolutely reeks of Glork setting up a DGB hit just because

A)She's not that good at defending herself
B)She's got enough of a rep on this site to be easily bandwagonable
C)She's an easy day one target
D)He knew he could get her to post 5 reasons, being its day one he knew they wouldn't be that good.

I'd be absolutely horrified if this was how you play as town.


So here's what I'm going to ask you Glork.

I'll hold you to the same ridiculously stupid standard you've held DGB up to.

Glork, give me five reasons, based on DGB's posts alone, that contribute to her being scum.

unvote

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Post Post #157 (isolation #9) » Wed May 14, 2008 1:10 pm

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Btw I find it cute that Macros is voting DGB for "blatant bandwagoning"

when he is doing the same thing.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #10) » Wed May 14, 2008 1:12 pm

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Jathan u bum

get on the glork wagon

its going places.
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Post Post #165 (isolation #11) » Wed May 14, 2008 7:16 pm

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Everyone is prolly protown

shape up and stop sucking up

it doesnt suit you.
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Post Post #167 (isolation #12) » Wed May 14, 2008 10:59 pm

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@Glork

The tone of your post was not a questioning one,

"DGB, give me five reasons, based on Mathcam's posts alone, that contribute to him being scum. "

that's a command tone, considering your persona on this website is very much forceful, I don't find it surprising that you issued a command and she buckled under.

You also told her in the follow up upon her initially ignoring you

"DGB, answer one of my questions. Now."

I emphasize the Now part of that as being particularly forceful.

It wasn't so much of a "Do you have 5 reasons to suspect cam and if so what are they?" as much of a "Give me 5 reasons.. NOW"

I'm not quite sure why you imagine she would've been just as likely to deflect with fewer reasons. Also, how do you know she "made up" her reasons post=vote?
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Post Post #169 (isolation #13) » Thu May 15, 2008 1:22 am

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Basically he's saying that he would be confused about the game and this would be indepedent of his alignment.

Meaning he is saying even if he were a townie, he would be confused about this game.

OR

He is saying that if he were scum or if he were town he would be confused about this game. Which he couldn't know unless he knew there was nothing in the scum PMs to give some idea of the nature of the game we would be playing to the scum thus making them not as confused as the townies.

Which also hints strongly towards his scumitude.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #14) » Thu May 15, 2008 10:04 am

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You going on a hitjob on PJ made sense from a protown perspective cuz he could handle it. It makes sense because it looked like you were trying to get a grip on PJ's alignment.

None of that browbeating contained the type of loaded crap you've tossed at DGB.(well at least not in a serious tone as I can remember)

When you go on a hitjob on DGB it looks a helluva more like you are going for blood.(I mean why didnt you do the same to the people who jumped on prior to DGB?, looked like you were just waiting for an easy target to blast)

When you did that hitjob on PJ on day one, you weren't seriously out for his blood(considering he was the King, I don't see how you could've expected to get him lynched)

this hitjob on DGB however does have the potential of lynching DGB, and you look far more like a player going for the throat than any reactions.
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Post Post #191 (isolation #15) » Thu May 15, 2008 8:54 pm

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WIFOM much?
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Post Post #262 (isolation #16) » Sun May 18, 2008 1:56 pm

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You forgot to mention that if Mathcam was really going to vote me for Disavowment of Responsbility, he should've done it when I first disavowed(aka when i promised to follow tally) and not way afterwards after I vote him.
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Post Post #267 (isolation #17) » Sun May 18, 2008 9:02 pm

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I dont put much stock in claims.

i kinda just want him to die

but I want Glork to die more.
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Post Post #268 (isolation #18) » Sun May 18, 2008 9:07 pm

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unvote

vote Mathcam


cuz noone seems to like Glork :(
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Post Post #310 (isolation #19) » Tue May 20, 2008 3:52 am

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I am voting for Cam based on:

cam wrote:On a related note, I'm very suspicious of Glork, raj, and DGB for pushing for a claim. In my role PM, there is a very clearly delineated difference between my alignment and my role.
There's no doubt that I will claim pro-town as my alignment
, and given that my role is presumably independent of my alignment, I'm not sure what there is to gain from that either. Not only is it therefore bad play to claim (unnecessarily giving away information), it's also scummy to push for a claim. It's also possible that the scum role/alignment structure is set up differently, and thus that scum didn't know how worthless it would be to push for a claim. Raj is the scummiest of those three, so he gets my vote.
I added Bolding myself for emphasis.

You should be voting him too

Unless you got your alignment as "protown"
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Post Post #353 (isolation #20) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:42 am

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Ah but cam, you did make it a relevant part of your play when you decided to claim "protown" as your alignment.

We did not bing wording up, that was your action when you said you would clearly claim "protown" as your alignment.

We aren't cheating or playing outside the rules because we did not open that door, you did when you partially claimed.

If a scumbag claims townie and sights the wrong type of wording for his role PM, he can hardly accuse the town of cheating when they call him out on it and lynch him for it.
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Post Post #355 (isolation #21) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:45 am

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And I do believe asking for the last letter or the specific word of the role PM is highly unethical.

However lynching based upon something volunteerarily coughed up by the suspect in question that seems to not jive with the information one has at hand. I do believe that is perfectly ethical.
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Post Post #357 (isolation #22) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:49 am

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no im saying you opened the door.

Im not saying you cheated
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Post Post #364 (isolation #23) » Tue May 20, 2008 8:58 am

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you didn't "claim protown"

you wrote :

"There's no doubt that I will claim pro-town as my alignment"

That's a huge difference.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #24) » Tue May 20, 2008 2:25 pm

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No those 2 statements are not the same except for tense.

one explicitly mentions alignment, the other does not.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #25) » Tue May 20, 2008 2:55 pm

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When a player "claims protown" or "claims to be protown"

The general assumption is that he is claiming to be in the protown side of the game, it is generally assumed that all players are "claiming protown" as to do otherwise would be fairly silly.

This is a general attitude, that one is "protown" in the sense that one is aligned with the town.

What cam wrote was:
Cam wrote: On a related note, I'm very suspicious of Glork, raj, and DGB for pushing for a claim. In my role PM, there is a very clearly delineated difference between my alignment and my role. There's no doubt that I will claim pro-town as my alignment, and given that my role is presumably independent of my alignment, I'm not sure what there is to gain from that either. Not only is it therefore bad play to claim (unnecessarily giving away information), it's also scummy to push for a claim. It's also possible that the scum role/alignment structure is set up differently, and thus that scum didn't know how worthless it would be to push for a claim. Raj is the scummiest of those three, so he gets my vote.
It is clear from that quote that he is not talking about an alignment in the general sense of the word alignment but specifically related to the alignment section of his role PM and making an observation of a clear difference between that section and the "role" section of the PM.

As a result he is saying that he is claiming "protown" as his "alignment" but alignment in this sense is not alignment in terms of the overall game but alignment as in the alignment section of the role PM.

This is a fundamentally different statement than saying that you are aligned with protown forces.

This is also a statement that hints severely at Cam's guilt.
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Post Post #393 (isolation #26) » Wed May 21, 2008 5:50 am

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If you can't deduce this is a vanilla setup from your role PM, then how would cam deduce such a thing that much earlier?
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Post Post #430 (isolation #27) » Thu May 22, 2008 7:10 pm

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I think i'm more fustrated by the players who think that this game is some kind of chore and that the goal of mafia is to just kill people.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #28) » Fri May 23, 2008 1:13 am

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Fun's a fairly subjective term.

Why should your idea of fun be imposed on anyone else?
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Post Post #448 (isolation #29) » Sat May 24, 2008 6:40 am

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I am the Prodder

I get to prod people who are neglecting the game.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #30) » Sun May 25, 2008 6:55 am

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hey cam

what made you think this was a vanilla only setup in terms of our( non moderator actions?

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Post Post #464 (isolation #31) » Sun May 25, 2008 11:17 pm

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BAH
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Post Post #466 (isolation #32) » Mon May 26, 2008 6:04 am

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you wote:


On a related note, I'm very suspicious of Glork, raj, and DGB for pushing for a claim. In my role PM, there is a very clearly delineated difference between my alignment and my role. There's no doubt that I will claim pro-town as my alignment, and given that my role is presumably independent of my alignment, I'm not sure what there is to gain from that either. Not only is it therefore bad play to claim (unnecessarily giving away information), it's also scummy to push for a claim. It's also possible that the scum role/alignment structure is set up differently, and thus that scum didn't know how worthless it would be to push for a claim. Raj is the scummiest of those three, so he gets my vote.



It seems to imply that there would be no information gleened from the alignment section of your role pm, which could only be true if all alignment PMs were the same and thus offered no information, which could only be true if you assumed this was a vanilla only setup.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #33) » Mon May 26, 2008 2:43 pm

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So you think it was possible the alignment pm said something like "You're a cop"?
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Post Post #470 (isolation #34) » Mon May 26, 2008 2:43 pm

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and no this is not my first split game, and I'm not certain this is a split game.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #35) » Mon May 26, 2008 3:32 pm

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i didnt write that
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Post Post #475 (isolation #36) » Mon May 26, 2008 3:37 pm

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can we kill him now?
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Post Post #477 (isolation #37) » Mon May 26, 2008 3:45 pm

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ok ill go prod him
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Post Post #491 (isolation #38) » Tue May 27, 2008 3:57 am

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They have

they just want an easy wagon at this point

the Giant Arrow saying "I'm scum" above cam's head is glowing a wee bit too bright for them
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Post Post #493 (isolation #39) » Tue May 27, 2008 4:28 am

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He's terrible
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Post Post #495 (isolation #40) » Tue May 27, 2008 5:30 am

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I dunno

but most of the time what he does puzzles me.

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Post Post #501 (isolation #41) » Tue May 27, 2008 7:22 am

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I'm not vouching for his innocence.

I'm vouching for the fact that his play doesn't make a dime of sense to me most of the time.

Just so we're clear what i'm vouching him for.
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Post Post #510 (isolation #42) » Tue May 27, 2008 12:05 pm

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I still Think Cam/Glork are our best bets for scum.


I think cam has yet to properly explain away my last jab at him.
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Post Post #526 (isolation #43) » Wed May 28, 2008 6:12 am

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because he was scared shitless that we'd kill his ass for doing something like this.(which is what you all are doing btw)

Thus he kept his silence hoping it would go away.

At this point he's admitting it because he's so bored by the game that he no longer cares about living.

Any of this sound like say um

scumbag behaviour?
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Post Post #529 (isolation #44) » Wed May 28, 2008 7:56 am

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damn you macros

i would've written a way sweeter death post

can we like swap duties or something
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Post Post #542 (isolation #45) » Wed May 28, 2008 3:49 pm

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sounds good to me
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Post Post #565 (isolation #46) » Thu May 29, 2008 9:26 am

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This sux

u should swap me roles macros

I wanna write death scenese lol
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #48) » Thu Oct 16, 2008 1:37 am

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oops

my bad mathcam

:P

and to the scum

Good Job winning!

if u wanted a more interesting game, u should've left me alive :D

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