This Mizzy business in an open game is sorta stray to be attacking.
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Agree with this, though TSN said the same thing along with the crap logic of someone with 3 votes must be lynched.DrippingGoofball wrote:jediknight wrote:Actually a little bit more...
The fact that people town today could be cult tomorrow scares me alot. Remember that penny thing where you add a penny a day and over a month you make like a million dollars or something? Yeah...kinda like that.
So I think that unrecruitables are very valuable. Not saying I necessarily believe the current roleclaim but wanted to put that statement out there.unvote, vote: jedinighton account of the use of the expressions "scares me a lot" - sounds exactly like what a cult recruiter might say.
Also calling no backsies on your mass claim thing TSN. It was pretty massively potentially disasterous to the extent just saying "my bad" doesn't cut it.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Just waggling the worm out there waiting for him to bite, eh?DrippingGoofball wrote:
Explain why, please.jediknight wrote:I am unrecruitable. Hence the term scares me a lot.
No clue why anyone would claim otherwise though at this point. It's like claiming you aren't scum.....Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Telling the truth about what? His not claim? His alignment has 0 to do with Jedi's really.farside22 wrote:unvote:
vote: Armix
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Just recruiting famous players is the worst strategy ever, just imagine theres a protective or tracking role, who is going to be targetted?lord_hur wrote: 1. This is not about lynching good players, it is about lynching famous players, and anyway this a bad argument, because good players are as dangerous as scum as they are good to have as town. I'm actually much comfortable playing with bad players/newbies as town, because they are much more likely to make mistakes at one point or another.
Also, the good players are dangerous as scum so lets lynch them argument is A) terrible and B) really scummy. The person has a 1/4 chance of being scum usually, so the benifits of them being town are weighed 3 times as heavily as their being scum. In this game, even if they are scum, theres stil 4 other groups for them to find and destroy to win.
Again, lynching recruits != a winning strategy till all the recruiters are dead.2. This is not about lynching recruits, this is about lynching players who are more likely to be recruits.
We are currently choosing at random.
And we are lynching those who are most likely to be scum. Its called scum hunting.
Attempt to buddy up I'm pretty sure.I think we just increase our chances to hit scum if we target famous players. I mean, who could resist trying to have Erg0 or you at their side ?
They would still be scum after being recruited....3. As I said, this tactic is only going to work on first day, because on subsequent ones, CRs will probably try to recruit players who they think are "not as good", because the good ones will probably be already recruited by others.
Your post is full of faulty logic and WIFOM about potential cult actions. Basically, I call BS and you trying to get the better players out of the way to coast through. Far worse than anything Jedi has done.
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No, doubt it.kabenon007 wrote:Well, I suppose that we should consider the fact that the CR's saw this bum rushing as a possibility and refrained from recruiting anyone in an effort to make us do their dirty work for them.
Agree.Also, I agree with farside. It does us no good for townie who are -3 or 2 away to just give up. An inventor is a valuable role, if he had claimed that, I would have believed him, because I was just something like an inventor, besides, it seems like there are many odd roles in this game.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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This has been a topic of discussion/concern for a while. The first game I was back where I wasn't dead by the end of D1 was someone posting their role PM at L-1 (after we didn't believe their claim of townie). LH's was probably the least disrepectful instance I've seen though.Lowell wrote:Is it just me or are there more and more quitters on mafiascum these days?
"Fine, kill me. See if I care. I'll show you. I didnt' want to win anyway. Takes one to know one. I'm taking my ball and going home!"
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Very incorrect. 1) Most games have limited lynches and you trust these tells and 2) scum tells are part of scum hunting which is part of town winning.DragonsofSummer wrote: I am very unwilling to trust what look like obvious scumtells at this point (after what has happened already today). Especially since we now have a limited number of lynches left.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Had the same confusion occur in Cultafia, hence the reason I asked.Xtoxm wrote:
Sorry, yeh I mean leader. Gotten used to saying CR in my mini cult mafia, currently ongoing.armlx wrote:xtoxm, when you say CR do you mean Cult Recruiter (aka Leader) or Cult Recruit?Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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So, since you didn't again, you are voting someone for not having access? Sounds dumb/opportunistic to me.Xtoxm wrote:
That is an accurate observation, yes...Muerrto wrote:
But you didn't unvote...Xtoxm wrote:
Ok, that's fair enough, just don't wanna let people use lurking as a strategy.Erg0 wrote:That would be correct, yes. I was busy over the weekend when the game exploded, hence I missed something like 14 pages of action. I'm playing now, though.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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Hi, I'm WIFOM, nice to meet you. There are infinite factors around recruits you can't just assume. And again, cult games aren't won by lynching recruits D1.Lowell wrote:Sounds okay. If I had to meta this, I'd say it's the sort of second-tier experienced players that will be targetted for recruit. Someone like armlx.vote armlxAway Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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This alone has convinced me that Pooky (repl. Mizzy) is not a valid lynch as Mizzy figured out the game like 10 pages early, which seems pretty townish IMO.Muerrto wrote: And yes, this game is fast and the wagons are haphazard. I'll be amazed if town wins...Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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The issue becomes that with him claimed its probably best for him to just not try and kill cult leaders for now as it creates more dissent among the town and might let him weasel out a win, and letting him kill cult leaders is the only reason for him to be alive.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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My Votes: TSN, DoS, Jedi, You.farside22 wrote:
pot this is kettle how are you doing?armlx wrote:Farside's voting history has been pretty unstellar so far as well, mainly how fast it jumps. Its pretty insane even for this game.
1 townie who was acting fairly scummy, 1 person who claimed survivorunder pressure, 1 claimed SK who has no reason to kill cult leaders which is the only thing he is useful for.
You: TSN, Jedi, Wayne, Mizzy, etc....
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As for your last post, I think the deal is people are probably willing to vote for multiple people at this point and are chilling on the one they find most scummy. Doesn't mean they won't switch once a specific wagon hits critical mass. Your proposistion just seems like an awkward way of stating what we already assume will occur.Away Wednesday the 24th through the 31st-
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:goodposting:Macavenger wrote:It's possible he's a recruit, self hammering would make sense then; as it prevents the possibility of drawing more links to your recruiter. Hell, even if he's a recruiter that has a recruit, if he knows he's screwed up and is about to be lynched, I guess there's always a faint hope he could win by having his recruit survive into a final 3 and endgame a townie. I agree self-hammering isn't bad for town in this game under certain conditions like it normally would be, but it's far from a town tell.
It's also possible that he knew he wasn't self hammering according to the rules and was gambiting hoping we'd assume he was dead and move on or something.
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Well, if you are that sure...
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Looking back on xtoxm he's scummy for some of the reasons I found farside scummy (voting record, especially the Mizzy vote), and I can see a possible connection based on xtoxm's random vote and farside's weak attack, albeit a weak one at best. Rather lynch farside first and go from there though, so
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