Anyhoo...
I can attest to the fact that MeMe is most definitelyRossWilliam wrote:Battle Mage, I think she's just getting replaced. Meme doesn't strike me as the type who'd run off just cause things are getting a little tighter
I can attest to the fact that MeMe is most definitelyRossWilliam wrote:Battle Mage, I think she's just getting replaced. Meme doesn't strike me as the type who'd run off just cause things are getting a little tighter
My position on Beep! Beep! is that she's scum. I'm afraid I can't actually explain it, though, as I have no actual basis for this position. It's nothing more than a random hunch. (though at this point in the game, random probably has close to, if not more than, a 50/50 shot of hitting scum)petroleumjelly wrote:Mr_Gnome_It_All
Explain your position on Beep! Beep!, then analyze MeMe/mathcam.
Three reasons:petroleumjelly wrote:MGIA, explain why you recruited Beep! Beep! into the cult after the town had specifically come to the conclusion that you should not recruit.
I never made any such agreement and refuse to allow myself to be led by anyone, in any game, ever. If you don't like that, tough, I don't care.petroleumjelly wrote:1.)If you are town, then I do think it is the town's decision to make. A directed Vig does not change their choice overnight simply because "they make the decision" -- if they do they are not too good of a player (even, I would argue, if they happen to hit scum). If you want to make a choice like that, you ought to be arguing about it ahead of time instead of doing it leaving yourself discredited by not following the guidelines to which the town had agreed.
How, exactly, does is hurt town and can be disasterous? I have yet to see a reasonable explination to this. And I've already addressed that it's better scum spends a night killing me than to kill another power role.petroleumjelly wrote:2.)You might not "trust" what we say, but a little common sense goes a long way. Your role hurts the town more than it helps the town. Even if you managed to steal a vote from scum, having you killed just replaces the vote and you turn out to be ineffective. Stealing a vote from a townsperson could be disastrous. And of course, if you are scum this was highly convenient timing for you.
OK, I guess I can concede this point to you. However, by the time I decided I would, there really wasn't enough time to debate, so I just went on with it.petroleumjelly wrote:It's not question of whether or not you are "willing to be led"; it's a question of "why didn't you argue for your position prior to making the action", or -- at the very least -- "why did you not inform us you might take a vote prior to actually doing it?".
Now this I just don't agree with. A person would have to be extremely careless and irresponsible for either of those scenarios to play out (and don't try to argue that using my ability was just that, because it was neither careless nor irresponsible. It was merely inconsiderate). I don't just throw around votes, and have no intention of "quick-lynching" anybody. Also, at this point in the game, there isn't a single person here I would refuse to lynch unless there's a damn good reason, in which case I shouldn't need to refuse because other people would see it the same way.petroleumjelly wrote:Stealing votes can be disastrous because (a) a misplaced vote from you is all the more likely to end in a quicklynch [or in factbea quicklynh vote], and (b) if you happen to find one of the scum townish, the town mayneverbe able to lynch that person because we will never be able to garner enough votes without your double-vote (or triple-vote, etc). You are accumulating more and more power which allows you to lynch anybody with only a few voters on them, or alternatively, effectively have the town refuse to lynch somebody.
In what way would you like to hear from me?mathcam wrote:I really think we need to hear from MGIA again.
1) could be one, could be two. can't know for sure until more information is revealed.petroleumjelly wrote:1.)How many scum groups do you think there are?
2.)What do you think the scum groups are? Two mafia? Mafia and a Werewolf? Cult? Serial Killer?
3.)How many members do you think are in each scum group?