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[TwoInAMillion]

Good morning everyone.

VOTE: UnaBomaH

He obviously did not scumclaim.

[TwoInAMillion]

You know, 2inAMil vigged me the last time we played together.
Maybe I should return the favor this game?
VOTE: TwoInAMillion

Nice OMGUS.

I forget, were you scum or town when I vigged you?

[TwoInAMillion]

@Car - Why ask una to unvote? It pretty clearly shows that he's scum, and if he's scum, who cares who he is voting for?

[TwoInAMillion]

Una, obviously. Between saying someone is scumclaiming that isn't scumclaiming and omgusing me.

[TwoInAMillion]

Fro99er looks super town.

FOS: Lovebird

[TwoInAMillion]

Eh, I think Una is scummy as well.

[TwoInAMillion]

Okay.

VOTE: Lovebird

Assuming this is a vote so fixed.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: lovebird

[TwoInAMillion]

I love it when scum vote for me.

[TwoInAMillion]

LUV's vote is fine since Una is scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yes I have played with Una.

[TwoInAMillion]

I actually think the TIAM wagon brings more light on who else might be scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

Let's keep it professional:P

[TwoInAMillion]

I love it when scum vote for me.

Could you explain yourself why you're scumreading me?

Because you're scum. Fro99er has a strong scumread on you and I trust in Fro99er.

[TwoInAMillion]

Why are you townreading frogger?

Have you read his posts?

[TwoInAMillion]

It's day 1, what kind of real answer are you expecting?

[TwoInAMillion]

Make love, not war. Except against scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

Claiming bulletproof does not confirm oneself as town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Claiming bulletproof does not confirm oneself as town.

Then how about me claiming to shoot you?

That would be a bad idea if you want to shoot scum, assuming you are a vig in the first place.

[TwoInAMillion]

@TiaM - we have started in this site around the same time: do you have any idea how many games you have played (I could check this from your profile I guess), and how you have fared as town/scum respectively?

I am 6-5 as town and 2-1 as scum. My wiki is up to date except for my most recent town game(loss).

[TwoInAMillion]

What traits do you usually think I show as town that I'm not showing now?

[TwoInAMillion]

Transcend

Is it bad that I’ve disagreed with all 3 of your scum reads this game so far?

Is it possible
You are scum.

which reads?

[TwoInAMillion]

It would be funny if Mulch and Koki are both scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

@scum it's in your best interest not to night kill me. If you do, enjoy the town win.

Open the WIFOM!

[TwoInAMillion]

Day 1 fake claims are probably more common than soft claims.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm saying it's as likely he's not a vig as that he's claiming vig.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'd say it's more likely he's not a vig.

He's not at the top of my scum list.

[TwoInAMillion]

I was just making a general statement before, I didn't know it was going to be nitpicked.

[TwoInAMillion]

I thought the same as transcend w.r.t. lovebird's post 23 and even the second sentence felt off to me, not just the association. I think lovebird talking about the policy lynch like that is something scum has a slightly higher probability of doing than normal to seem town -- so in combo with the association I was on the same page. But I did think 38 was actually pretty insightful around the way the bird comment implied they're probably not buddies so meh. I'm not strong either way on lovebird right now. (as I'm typing this, don't love lovebird answering for transcend). I don't understand the texcat scumread either. Explain it.

Also Transcend is voting you. These players are high on my town list.

[TwoInAMillion]

If you and Mulch are mason's why did you say you are confirmed town "in my heart" instead of just confirmed town?

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm really really close to switching my vote to Koki right now.

[TwoInAMillion]

don't say it.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: 2319

[TwoInAMillion]

I see zero town reasons for Kokochi's fake claims.

however, everyone knows they are fake so I don't see any alignment indicativeness.

[TwoInAMillion]

I don't think a mason would have counterclaimed if they were smart.

[TwoInAMillion]

then i guess you don't know me

It's okay, I know you.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Transcend

Your scum mate


Sorry

You are scum

Voting someone because they don't want a quicklynch is a pretty anti-town reason to vote someone.

It doesn't matter if it's happened before, meta can change for certain players.

[TwoInAMillion]

then i guess you don't know me

It's okay, I know you.

..or at the very least you THINK you know?

What do you think of Mulch's vote?

[TwoInAMillion]

Let's stick with lovebird or 2319.

[TwoInAMillion]

I wouldn't let people jerk your chain so much, Transcend. Everyone gets wagoned sometimes. You are obviously town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Misguided, but probably town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Mulch doesn't always look scummy. He's a very emotional and surface level player as town. As scum he's more controlled and calculating.

[TwoInAMillion]

Mulch doesn't always look scummy. He's a very emotional and surface level player as town. As scum he's more controlled and calculating.

pocketd#pocketed

meaning what?

[TwoInAMillion]

disagree

I've seen him implode a few times as scum

It happens but it's not as believable.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm sure everyone will claim vig by the time the game is over.:rollseyes:

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm sure everyone will claim vig by the time the game is over.:rollseyes:

Found the vig

Who?

[TwoInAMillion]

[quote="In post 991, Aneninen"](17) TwoInaMillion, so are you townreading Mulch? Referring to your 934. Did you like his answers after your post? What do you think of Kokichi?/quote]

Currently he's a null read. He's not as active as normal so I am a little weary. He seems to be overthinking things.

[TwoInAMillion]

Scum don't want to provide content.

[TwoInAMillion]

Mulch is just throwing things against the wall to see what sticks.

-1

[TwoInAMillion]

I would be okay with 2319 Lovebird or Mulch.

[TwoInAMillion]

I would be okay with 2319 Lovebird or Mulch.

0/3 bud try again

Is this opinion or fact?

[TwoInAMillion]

I would be okay with 2319 Lovebird or Mulch.

0/3 bud try again

Is this opinion or fact?

Opinion

I think I would need more of an argument for my opinion to change then.

[TwoInAMillion]

It's a good thing we have your "feelings" or we'd be in some really deep shit.

[TwoInAMillion]

It's a good thing we have your "feelings" or we'd be in some really deep shit.

It's a good thing we have your "feelings" or we'd be in some really deep shit.

like why the FUCK are you so determined ALREADY to devalue my opinion? As I see it you're concerned about me suspecting you and would like to discredit me before I get people on you. I see past your bullshit however.
VOTE: Twoinamillion
And don't think because I'm not voting you I'm not noticing you Mulch. Real classy swooping in and blank quoting two posts with a clear intent to discredit.

I went to go vote you and then realized I already was

How dare I devalue Gamma's wrong opinion.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

ATE.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

ATE.

Yeah I do it as both alignments o buddy o pally

UNVOTE: frogger

I've seen you play better as town. Doesn't seem like your town game to me.

[TwoInAMillion]

Gamma is obv scum. Can we lynch his slot now and get it over with?

[TwoInAMillion]

Nobody’s even being toxic, gamma

That's what I feel is happening, at least from 2iam and mulch
One thing I'm glad about is I know that fissure is mulch because if he tried to meta me without that information being available to me I'd lose my goddamn mind
Anyway I'm gonna go back to catch-up since interacting in the now has proved to be a very bad idea.

I'm glad you think that anyone who thinks you're wrong is toxic.

[TwoInAMillion]

Nobody’s even being toxic, gamma

That's what I feel is happening, at least from 2iam and mulch
One thing I'm glad about is I know that fissure is mulch because if he tried to meta me without that information being available to me I'd lose my goddamn mind
Anyway I'm gonna go back to catch-up since interacting in the now has proved to be a very bad idea.

I'm glad you think that anyone who thinks you're wrong is toxic.

It's the way you're going about it, it doesn't feel like you care to correct me you just want to make me look stupid

Given your vote total and my vote total I'm pretty sure you're the main one that feels that way.

[TwoInAMillion]

I may be a bit overreactive to people like Gamma but it's because scum tend to gravitate towards attacking me when I am town for some reason.

[TwoInAMillion]

(6) Gamma Emerald: Kokichi Oma, rb, Almost50, Fro99er, TwoInAMillion, Fissure

[TwoInAMillion]

Just because others haven't chimed in much doesn't make you less scummy.

[TwoInAMillion]

I must say I am a bit offended at only being town lean for Transcend.

[TwoInAMillion]

I can see some of the people on the Gamma wagon being scum so there is a chance he could be town, meh. Namely rb and almost50

[TwoInAMillion]

Isn't this a normal game?

[TwoInAMillion]

I just find it unlikely that our first two claims are such wierd roles.

[TwoInAMillion]

I think Gamma is lying because I don't think a mod would think of/place a vig/miller.

[TwoInAMillion]

Although in a previous game Hawk claimed miller and I thought he was lying and I was wrong, so what do I know?

[TwoInAMillion]

Obviously a different situation, but still the same as far as being a miller claim.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also, this is another situation where Gamma should have claimed conditional miller first post if he was town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Also, this is another situation where Gamma should have claimed conditional miller first post if he was town.

Not really? There's a condition to it, so mafia would think "what is the condition for" and likely make the connection that it was tied to a power

I don't think the mod would create a situation where they purposefully create a situation where the player wouldn't want to make an optimal declare first post play.

[TwoInAMillion]

I never get credit for anything.

*sigh*

[TwoInAMillion]

I said there was a chance, I didn't say it was likely.

There's also a chance Trump could end up being the best president in history.

[TwoInAMillion]

I had like 10 scumGamma posts and 1 that maybe where I thought he had a CHANCE of being town.

[TwoInAMillion]

VOTE: lovebird

[TwoInAMillion]

BAAAAA!

[TwoInAMillion]

I think the A50 kill means the masonry is on the right track

[TwoInAMillion]

TwoInAMillion
Transcend
Fro99er
rb
Jodaxq
aneninen
LilUziVert
UnaBombaH

texcat
Kokichi Oma

assemblertws
macabre
Lovebird

[TwoInAMillion]

Aneninan, what do you have against Lovebird as a lynch?

[TwoInAMillion]

are you referring to someone specific?

[TwoInAMillion]

Why him?

[TwoInAMillion]

Just to be clear, I find it more likely that Kokochi and 2319 are more likely both scum than both town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Just to be clear, I find it more likely that Kokochi and 2319 are more likely both scum than both town.

hey i agree lets b friends

Sure you can join my townblock with Transcend and Fro99er.

[TwoInAMillion]

I obviously wasn't hesitant. There was one post where I was reconsidering things and a million where I wasn't.

[TwoInAMillion]

Aside from that, it's normal for town to question themselves because they don't have the information that scum have.

[TwoInAMillion]

I never called you scum, I called you null on my read list, but now that you are acting so defensive...

[TwoInAMillion]

Lovebird is obviously lurking.

[TwoInAMillion]

You're gonna get yourself force replaced Trancsend.

[TwoInAMillion]

Yes, Trascend and the late A50 are in my masonry.

[TwoInAMillion]

By my count lovebird is at L-2

[TwoInAMillion]

Literally nothing Koki has said this whole game makes any sense.

[TwoInAMillion]

If it were me I would lynch lovebird and vig Koki

[TwoInAMillion]

Lovebird are you an alt?

[TwoInAMillion]

Lovebird has done nothing to convince me that she is town.

[TwoInAMillion]

Lovebird has only been on site for a month so she might not have a scum game.

[TwoInAMillion]

Assemble is also a mislynch. Why don't people want to lynch scum? Why are people obsessed with 'who bussed' how about who is the scummiest.

Why don't you actually give reasoning behind your assertions instead of just Player A is town, player B is scum, player C is scum because they don't agree with me.

[TwoInAMillion]

Why can't koki and tex both be scum?

[TwoInAMillion]

Why can't koki and tex both be scum?

Then vote Tex. If you think I bussed both my partners.

I'm pretty sure lovebird is scum, but thanks.

[TwoInAMillion]

Because you are all being dodgy/lurky.

[TwoInAMillion]

Because you are all being dodgy/lurky.

How? I have the 2nd most posts in the game of people alive. And I clearly explained my scumread in depth.

I don't like that you are defending my scumreads.

[TwoInAMillion]

Well, you're the only townread I have that is really defending lovebird.

[TwoInAMillion]

We are set in a pretty town/scum block at this point and I am going with that.

[TwoInAMillion]

2319 was replaced by marshy

[TwoInAMillion]

Koki is not playing the townbuilding game at all and that bothers me. Koki and Lovebird are still my strongest scum reads.

[TwoInAMillion]

Deciding who the town players are.

[TwoInAMillion]

I'm honestly thinking Lovebirds is prolly town since I saw in a postgame it was mentioned they lurked as scum, so this level of activity seems very different than that.

This also makes me think lovebird is scum. Since Gamma was scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

Usually if users post in other threads and not this one it's because they are scum.

[TwoInAMillion]

the 2319/marshy slot is looking very scummy as well.

scum r on da ropes.

[TwoInAMillion]

That's because scum know they are losing. There's not much to talk about when you know who the scum are.

[TwoInAMillion]

switching votes a lot can be alignment indicative it means you don't want to be held responsible for your vote.

[TwoInAMillion]

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Transcend is either being dumb or is scum. Not sure which yet. Did he claim mason earlier?

fro99er is prob town

Mulch pings me. Not quite sure why. It might have something to do with the kokichi entrance. I'm not really sure.

PEDIT: @TwoInAMillion: that really depends on the context. It's true Lovebird doesn't have a ton of content between her votes, but that doesn't mean her votes are nonsensical. Her frustration with being wagoned is obvtown.

Frustration at being wagoned is less NAI than vote switching.

[TwoInAMillion]

Transcend fakeclaims more than he truthclaims.

[TwoInAMillion]

Plus he is my mason.

[TwoInAMillion]

Why does transcend getting banned mean the game gets canceled?