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Why isn't he town? What is alisae vs mulch about?In post 1018, Monaca Towa wrote:We are killing Mulch today.
There are no Ifs.
There are no Buts.
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So he claimed cop for no apparent reason and got wagoned as a result? And where is alisae in all of this? Part of a hydra or something?
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Ok, you seem to forget I haven't read the thread yet.In post 1044, Monaca Towa wrote:Yes people have already posted like two of them.
Nope.In post 1045, Dunkerdoodles wrote:egg are you scum too?
I don't catch up during night. Possibility of being killed and inconvenience of thread being locked and no where to type.In post 1056, Monaca Towa wrote:He has the night phase to do that Nagito.-
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Ok, bear with me on outdated early game stuff. It's more for me than anyone else anyway. I will try to be quick on the real early stuff and not say too much on it, but I need the full context to help me get reads.
I don't love Dunk's assertion of multiple teams at first glance. Maybe it really is Mod WIFOM like he says, but it comes off like having more info than the rest of us. But with two deaths a night so far and a vig flip, and Nagito flipping simply "mafia" in red text, it looks like he was wrong anyway. So if anything, that looks like real speculation coming from town. I also like his vote on Nagito as a "serious vote" to start the game. Doesn't feel like distancing because labeling it serious so early creates momentum against the target. I'm not convinced he did that to a buddy.
Early town vibes from Transcend, but I always town read him so I'm gonna try not to make too much of that yet.
Kokichi's "I am mafia" stuff really rubs me the wrong way. Like, obviously I'm not trying to suggest that it's a scum claim or anything like that, but it comes off...I dunno, like he's got something to hide and he feels like we won't figure it out. Like I picture him smirking when he posts. It's really hard to describe, but man it's a weird feeling.
Something Smart's post about not forming reads is...just ugh. I don't believe it "half jokes". I think a half joke is a hidden truth. However, the reasoning he gives about not being able to separate signal from noise sounds like he legitimately WANTS to sort everyone but just struggles to do so early in the game. So yeah this can be an early town read.
Kaede seems to be posting a lot of nothing. Feels like an attempt to stay under the radar. Granted I'm basing this on the first five pages, but ew.
Uhhh. Something Smart's not wanting to have reads thing that I said was townish looks less townish after his self meta claiming he's careful who he scum reads as scum.
Early town vibes from tchill. I like his point against something smart and his wagon vote on Nagito. I'm not sure what to make of Unabomb's Nagito vote though. I hope it's not just the smilie fucking with my head, but it felt like he was trying to be deceptive and that vote being a distancing move fits that bill.
Spoiler: Not game related
I've seen whymafia as scum and it felt like his entire focus was blending. His entrance here is the exact opposite. I see real scumhunting that he didn't seem capable of in that game. This is my strongest read to this point. He looks town and that read will probably stick when I'm done reading.
Tywin is probably town for the comment about having to write down reads because of the anime names. Mixing up reads is something that can come off scummy and he showed no fear of being voted for it.
Nagito's "forgot to mention I town read Something Smart" feels forced. Possibly talking about a buddy there. His interaction's with Himiko about Transcend feel like scum vs town though. Himiko's comment about being "concerned" feels real and Nagito's assumption that Himiko was town reading Transcend felt manipulative. Nagito reducing Transcend's scum read on Kokichi to "for posting a gimmick" is horrible too. Possible chainsaw defense of Kokichi. Also town points for Transcend in all of this.
^On all of this, I was dumb and hadn't realized Himiko had died. I came back here when I realized it to get rid of my stuff about town reading him because it's useless, but there's stuff that's still relevant to Transcend so I'll leave it here.
I want to mention that while Kokichi doesn't look good to me so far, there is one thing I don't care to go into at this time that gives me hesitance. I'd probably have Kokichi as my strongest scum read if not for that one thing.
Transcend's 205 gave five scum reads. One flipped scum. Of the other four, I really like three. Screen is the one I don't feel the same way on yet, but he's not a strong town read either. Too bad I wasn't here from the beginning. We would have really been on the same page. Assemble's reaction to being on that list sucks by the way ("show me where you pull shit like this as town"). Screen's actually isn't any better, saying that scum Transcend would fake confident reads.
Oh. That would have been helpful to know. Still don't love the fact that flipped scum is the one who jumped to Kokichi's defense, but that does explain a lot of my concerns.Nagito wrote:The gimmick is the character he is RPing as likes to lie and troll like that.
Srceenplay [7]: Maki Harukawa, WhyMafia, Monaco Towa, Nagito Komaeda, Transcend, TywinL, Mulch
If Screen is town, this is ugly.Kaede wrote:Alright then, ill trust this for now
VOTE: Screen
I know everyone has their thoughts on whether Rule of 3 is real or BS, but all of these players have flipped and guess what.Unabomb wrote:At the very least one scum in:
Maki Harukawa
Monaco Towa
Nagito Komaeda
I'm through Page 13. Will have a ton more time tomorrow but there's a start at least.
Town on top, scum on bottom:
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Kaito/fykus/skirt
Kokichi
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I don't know. It's just the way you come off.In post 2458, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Why do you think that?In post 2457, Egg wrote:Like I picture him smirking when he posts. It's really hard to describe, but man it's a weird feeling.-
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This doesn't sound like scum. If this day is Kaede vs Assemble, I'm probably supporting an Assemble lynch although I do need to read more before deciding that for sure. Was gonna do it now but my two year old is in crisis mode because he washed his hands and now they are wet (like holy crap no shit they are wet) so I'm gonna hold off until the kids are in bed.In post 2473, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Honestly tho, im just gonna be a walking ball of WIFOM for as long as I live. Town's win precedes whatever utility my role may have and if my sacrifice will get confscum lynched then so be it.
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And you seem to mean it. Scum would only say this to look town (I don't think you are doing that) or because they are playing against their win condition (the Mod hasn't intervened).
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Ok, one kid in bed, the other eating dinner and watching TV. Maybe I can get some reading in.
Screen asking what is bad about his bad post might be worse than the original post (Page 14, post 341)
Kokichi looks better here noticing some of the same things I did (comments on Unabomb, Screen, and Transcend)
Spoiler: My reads list, few changes
Ugh. Made it through two pages. Can't concentrate over a two year old's fart noises in my ear. Should have just waited for bed time.-
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Now that there is nothing to distract me...
Kokichi and Tywin did a lot of talking about tchill's meta without really getting specific. I'd love to know what they have noticed in his meta because I haven't figured him out yet. I read him incorrectly in our one finished game.
Whymafia's question about town reads on him and some other consensus stances is one that I see coming from town. I had actually just noticed myself that a lot of people's reads were matching my own. Then I looked back over my reads and yeah they all seem to be consensus reads. I feel like a lot of people are just on the same page. But that doesn't mean everyone is right. If a lot of those consensus reads turn out to be wrong, we need to look at the people who made those reads consensus. I'd suspect that 1-2 players who are consensus town reads and seem to be leading the charge probably turn out to be scum in that case. Problem is I don't know who that would be. Maybe Transcend? *shrug* (And of course after I type this I see three other people strengthen their whymafia town reads because of this post...)
I like Kaede recognizing a flaw in her own logic regarding tchill/screen being the same alignment.
I'm through page 20. Only a few things stood out in that stretch. Taking a break.
Town on top, scum on bottom:
Whymafia
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tywin
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Dunk
Kokichi
tchill
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Oh wow.In post 2518, WhyMafia wrote:@Egg
We have Kaede - Who went from vig to SK to vig
Assemble, the even? night loyal JK who has confirmed Kaede is not the same alignment as him
and Fykus, the JOAT who used an invest N1 to find Piss had a gun, healed? Transcend N2, and now has a 1 Shot JK
So Assemble who is scummy anyway can't be town with Kaede...which explains the 1v1.
Why did Fykus claim?
Well my question is more about his meta. What is different between his scum play and town play?whymafia wrote: I'm using a bit of meta, but just look at his ISO lol
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Yeah that happened but you said it would be a waste.In post 2612, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
Both tchill and egg should be able to confirm this btw.In post 2601, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:This is what I get for trusting kokichi saying he would "clear" me.
Anyway I think kaede is town and I don't like the Lynch but I can see it's happening anywY. So *shrug*-
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Actually that's technically true...In post 2637, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I never said I would. Nee-heehee~In post 2635, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:@Kokichi:
Care to explain?In post 2601, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:This is what I get for trusting kokichi saying he would "clear" me.-
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I have plenty of time Wednesday Thurs Fri and maybe Saturday.In post 2808, skirt skirt wrote:like, after me, the person doing the most scumhunting is... a fucking werewolf. come the fuck on. less than half the game is being helpful.-
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Lol at the bolded.In post 2874, UnaBombaH wrote:Not in a hood.
Not in any PT for that matter.
I think "ne-hee-hee" -animoo is overplaying a character, or trying to backpedal EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. they soft a role or noticing a "slip" or whatever.
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Confirming. I actually expected you to scum read skirt when I saw screen flip town. The neighbor spec mostly seems like Mod WIFOM I don't want to get into except that those in hoods with Assemble and Kaede probably aren't wolf. Not sure what to think of the pisskop death though. Kaede could be lying and he could have been their kill. Especially if Screen was a wolf kill because it would set up skirt for exactly this thinking. I don't think it's worth lynching him for this when I've been townreading his play.In post 2968, Kokichi Oma wrote:I went into today thinking the maf in the group was srceenplay, and the people in my neighborhood can confirm. But, they died so. That changes things.
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Wait, what?skirt wrote:Piss didnt even soft vig. But, yes.
This doesn't sound as confident as I'd expect after that wagon hop.Transcend wrote:i can see a world they're scum in tho
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I actually think this is our best chance to hit scum. He's really my last scum read still alive and he makes sense with either team unless I'm missing something.-
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I mean these are his only Nagito mentions:In post 145, UnaBombaH wrote:...this game so far... I feel like already skipping the RVS...
VOTE: Nagito Komaeda to start the RWS! (RandomWagoningStage)
An RVS vote and a possible Rule of 3 post.In post 318, UnaBombaH wrote:At the very least one scum in:
Maki Harukawa
Monaco Towa
Nagito Komaeda
Also: Fykus has entered the building.
His Assemble "mentions" (Ctrl+f) are pretty much all inside of quotes.
His Kaede interactions seem mostly fine, but I don't see any reason they CAN'T be scum together either.-
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The only reason anyone gave me that he could be scum in inactivity. I've seen recently that he can be active as scum and knows what he is doing. Do you have a better reason? What do you think of unabomb?In post 3073, WhyMafia wrote:Why don't any of y'all wanna lynch TChill
That would make tchill and kaede neighbors together and wolves together.Skirt wrote:tchill is probably the wolf if he's scum-
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Probably true, but why is he likely wolf if scum?In post 3082, skirt skirt wrote:
hmIn post 3081, Egg wrote:
The only reason anyone gave me that he could be scum in inactivity. I've seen recently that he can be active as scum and knows what he is doing. Do you have a better reason? What do you think of unabomb?In post 3073, WhyMafia wrote:Why don't any of y'all wanna lynch TChill
That would make tchill and kaede neighbors together and wolves together.Skirt wrote:tchill is probably the wolf if he's scum
maybe
just maybe
u shouldn't base reads off of something like hood spec thatdoesn't impact game balance whatsoever and could literally be randomized as has been done in the past
Wanna help? I only have one vote so I can't do it myself.skirt wrote:you can lynch una if you want. frankly, i don't really give a shit, he isn't a "town read"-
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It's really not. My posts should answer your questions. Go back and read them so I don't just end up repeating myself. I admit there is PoE involved but I was definitely scum reading you before now. Reading past this post, I do see that you went back and realized this. If you are town, the mentality in 3101 is your problem. Until you've really mastered some things, dont try to look town as town. Just find scum and let your play speak for itself.In post 3095, UnaBombaH wrote:
Out of the left field..In post 3028, Egg wrote:Vote Unabomb
I actually think this is our best chance to hit scum. He's really my last scum read still alive and he makes sense with either team unless I'm missing something.
Eddie also already cased me: I'm a useless lurker, not scum.
I'd be interested in hearing WHY you scumread me?
Transcend are you asking for reads from me or unabomb in 3106?
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I was referring to the bolded:In post 3101, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm not stupid even if my play seems bad at times, it's just thatI'm still trying to learn what people scumread on this site, and what not.
And before people jump on that being something only scum say, nah.
Most of being a good townie on this site is being able to towntell yourself, and then getting NK'd or lynched anyway. ("obvious" townie/paranoia)
I think my biggest problem on forum-mafia is that I'm way more "complete" in my communication when I can use facial expressions and actual tone.
Trying to convey tone by text...ech.-
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Because unabomb is more likely wolf and could be mafia. Kokichi is probably not wolf.In post 3200, Dunkerdoodles wrote:why can't we just lynch kokichi
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^I second this. WhyMafia has felt pretty obvtown for a while.In post 3209, WhyMafia wrote:Can you say why you scum read me?-
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Third time doing so, but yeah. I'm not doc.In post 3211, skirt skirt wrote:Everyone in your next post please hard decline being doc/rs/protective. If you do so, and you try and claim it later, we quick lynch you. I am very sure there's a town protective lying here and I think whatever thought process makes you think that's a good idea is wrong.-
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Wouldn't you be voting me if I'm scum regardless? I don't think you are scum, but you are confirmation biasing hard here on both kokichi and myself.In post 3247, skirt skirt wrote:Kokichi is maf, egg could be the partner, una could be wolf I guess. It's basically whether you wanna lynch a 90% mafia or a 40% wolf
WM, I would do kokichi here. If he magically towns egg is maf WKing him. Up to you tho. Chill, you aren't gonna care about what I say so u do u.-
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Yet you honestly believe I'm either scum with kokichi or scum white knighting kokichi? Think about how much sense that makes for a second.In post 3250, skirt skirt wrote:
If I thought you had a better chance of flipping scum than Kokichi, yes, I would be voting you.In post 3249, Egg wrote:
Wouldn't you be voting me if I'm scum regardless? I don't think you are scum, but you are confirmation biasing hard here on both kokichi and myself.In post 3247, skirt skirt wrote:Kokichi is maf, egg could be the partner, una could be wolf I guess. It's basically whether you wanna lynch a 90% mafia or a 40% wolf
WM, I would do kokichi here. If he magically towns egg is maf WKing him. Up to you tho. Chill, you aren't gonna care about what I say so u do u.-
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This feels very townIn post 3262, Dunkerdoodles wrote:looking through your iso there is very little mention of nagito throughout the whole thing, yet you're claiming to have been a major contributor. looks like bussing to me
also any reason you mysteriously stopped pushing me when kaede came along? you aren't pushing me when i'm obviously a valid wolf candidate.
you said you were scumreading me multiple times yet today not one word about me.-
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Couldn't tell by your posts. Looks more like kokichi was a straight scum read until you got used to the posting style and then he was a straight town read. *Shrug*In post 3325, UnaBombaH wrote:
I never had any trouble voting here, but I have still been torn on that slot for the entire game.In post 3246, Egg wrote:Anyone else notice unabomb making a self preservation vote but acting like he's finding real reasons to vote kokichi?
It's the kind of "wifom" (not exactly that in this case I think?), where you think no scum would act so blatantly scummy and fake..but then again..but then again..and so on.
To your big post, I thought Eddie might have meant me on the doc this g because he mentioned the possibility that kokichi was doc protected which makes sense for me . I agree with your next quote. I think you are wolf and can't rule you out as mafia, not the other way around. Also not irritated with Eddie. I just think his logic is off and wanted to help him take a step back and fix it.-
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It's obvious who he means. Let him deal with it how he wants for now.In post 3347, UnaBombaH wrote:
False, I'm not progressing at all.In post 3346, skirt skirt wrote:Bad progression
I wanted to hear who was your pick for being the protective.
I can only think of two slots that could do it at this point, and it would still make sense to me.-
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Fell asleep reading this last night and lost what I had typed out but basically...I don't buy Eddie's claim obviously. So unless he wants to tell us why town would fKeclaim there, my best guess is that kokichi was right about mafia having a rolestop and Eddie is wolf who shot transcend so he believes he has a true guilty.
Eddie, it makes no sense for tchill to have claimed to me. I didn't suspect him and he didn't trust me. If he was going to claim, he'd have done it in the thread during the day. At the same time, if I was scum, why wouldn't I just shoot a scum read who I wasn't able to get lynched like unabomb. If I was wolf, I'd be desperate to hit mafia because I'd be outnumbered. If I was mafia, I'd want to eliminate the wolf NK in case they were coming after me. Either way, I wouldn't be shooting town reads right now.
As for the tchill shot iself, I'm guessing whichever team shot him probably was shooting a scum read. No other reason for it.
Kaito, you asked what tchill and I discussed last night. He made one post asking for my reads. I gave a thought out reply and landed on unabomb as a wolf and skirt/dunk as my best guess for mafia. Basically I figured mafia has at least one member in control of things which gave me at least one of Eddie/transcend and then PoE would point me to dunk or kaito next. Whymafia is still solid town to me.
Eddie's claim changes things for me though. I now think he's wolf and transcend is mafia. I'd guess unabomb for the second mafia but would need to check interactions if transcend were to flip mafia at some point.-
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Eddie you're in a normal game making a claim that would be off in a theme game. To why you'd claim it as wolf, maybe you thought everyone was dumb enough to buy it. On not getting unabomb lynched, say what you want but I pushed hard and it didn't happen. And on tchill why would him not claiming not change anything when your point relied on him claiming?
Kaito is that to me? Because if so, I honestly don't care. I don't see why that couldn't be possible.
I typed he above before reading Eddie's big post. Hmm. My question is if we have to hit wolf first and those are your reads why fake the guilty on transcend and not unabomb? I mean you explained thinking you might die and everything but getting transcend lynched from that point of view is still far from perfect. You should have just come in helping me Lynch unabomb if you are town. That post is about all I was waiting for to call you town though. That claim was never believable and as I said I needed a reason why town would do it before calling you town.
I haven't found the bracket keys on my phone yet but I'd vote unabomb if I could. Will do so Tuesday when I have my computer if nothing has changed. But yeah I'm back to unabomb as wolf and probably transcend mafia with dunk or kaito.-
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