Large Normal 209: BooneyToonz VI - Journey to Boon Island!

[WhyMafia]

I doubt that Fykus and Assemble both have jailkeepers. I say lynch Assemble.

I have a question
Why would you lynch a 1 Shot JK over a JK that acts like a pseudo invest, and can use his role every other night?

[WhyMafia]

I think we should let Kaede, Fykus and Assemble live for one more day.

[WhyMafia]

So 100% gain information by her lynch or try to hunt scum and lynch someone else(not sure of %) and hope we don’t get double crossed by a wolf/sk and they kill a outed pr (% unknown).

Point is we have a 100% chance of a positive with her lynch.
Letting her live is a estimated slim chance of something positive.

Fair enough. An SK has no reason to help town
Could lynch Kaede over the other 2

[WhyMafia]

NO IDEA who actually hard-claimed and what, but I'm not gonna take part in that activity until called upon by the majority.
I can believe the Dominator-claim, excited to see what happens.
Dunkers enabler-claim was likely a joke..?

This seems weird, especially in conjuncture with quoting my post explaining all the hard claims and knowing about the "dominator"

Just posted.

Trying to figure out the optimal way to move onwards from here.
I think we just can't risk not lynching you here..

I think the potential negative scenarios outweight the positives, but I might be very much wrong.
I'm still the newbiest n00b in this game!

And this is full of doubt cast language, offers nothing to the gamestate, and lowers expectations

[WhyMafia]

There's been the theories of multiball or SK lying around, I'd argue that anyone that believed i was SK without consideration is mostly town who have no access to inside information.
Now who are the ones that thought i could be wolf?

Oh and btw... im flipping green.

This is as big of a plot twist as
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[WhyMafia]

it didnt work ;/

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: assemble

HOLY FUCK

[WhyMafia]

We're lynching between Ass and Kaede
I propose we lynch Kaede
VOTE: Kaede

[WhyMafia]

Because IMO Kaede has been scummier and Ass provides more utility

[WhyMafia]

It seems SvT from my PoV
But I could be mistaken in my premises
So Ass's RB failed On Kadee. Therefore they aren't the same alignment correct? If one flips Town, the other us guarenteed scum, no?

[WhyMafia]

Side-note
I still want tchill and una dead

[WhyMafia]

My townread of WhyMafia is slowly fading.

Same here.
And I would like to point out that he still scumreads me.
It's at a point where it doesn't matter what I write, he scumreads it..

Like wtf you're not even curious to why I SR you, didn't even respond to anyone's analysis of your first posts, and make me look like a tunneler

[WhyMafia]

Then I looked back over my reads and yeah they all seem to be consensus reads.

Yeah this is something common throughout the game, which is something that's been bugging me as well

[WhyMafia]

@Egg
We have Kaede - Who went from vig to SK to vig
Assemble, the even? night loyal JK who has confirmed Kaede is not the same alignment as him
and Fykus, the JOAT who used an invest N1 to find Piss had a gun, healed? Transcend N2, and now has a 1 Shot JK

[WhyMafia]

Also, I think Fykus would agree with me, but I have a gut scumread on tchill simply because he's been active lurking all game.

yes
We're putting him on the hot seat tomorrow/day 5

[WhyMafia]

Kokichi and Tywin did a lot of talking about tchill's meta without really getting specific. I'd love to know what they have noticed in his meta because I haven't figured him out yet. I read him incorrectly in our one finished game.

I'm using a bit of meta, but just look at his ISO lol
He's been active elsewhere as well ..

[WhyMafia]

No matter what, we're lynching between Kaede & Assemble. I'll vote either. I gave some more thought. Neither Assemble, nor Fykus's night actions make sense to me. Kaede's day play has been better than Assemble's, therefore I suppose I'll VOTE: assemble

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: TCHILL
Die scumfuck

[WhyMafia]

Sheep for victory

[WhyMafia]

Actually wait
Assemble vs Kaede could've been SvS theatre
The fact that we havent had a single day with 3+ kills is a little disturbing.

[WhyMafia]

Whymafia, why are you still alive?

I have no idea
My two guesses:
Scum are more interested in shooting scum
Or
WIFOM

[WhyMafia]

So you think my plan is to get my partner to mechanically engage in a 1v1 with me?

This seems bad. You both were already on the firing line. If one of you could be "mechanically clear" I am pretty sure I'd take it

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: kaede

[WhyMafia]

Yeah. Skirt why don't you FoS TChill?

[WhyMafia]

Yeah i dont want the day to end early, there's also things i wanna say before dying.

Like what?

[WhyMafia]

WM is probably town unless he's upped his scum game (unlikely)

RuDe

[WhyMafia]

Yeah. Skirt why don't you FoS TChill?

he hasn't really posted since i got into the game, and i know he's busy irl based off that mini that just finished so it isn't tactical necessarily. i do not townread him at all though.

How long has he been busy for? His votes have been scummy to me

[WhyMafia]

Speak of the devil

[WhyMafia]

I can and will eventually when there's information to be gained.

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: assemble

[WhyMafia]

Like you popped in once in a blue moon, voted a leading wagon, then disappeared. Your contributions have been non-existent, you haven't replaced out, you've completely coasted, and when you were active, put it off with "I need more info"

[WhyMafia]

While we're speaking of devils
Kaito if you're not gonna play please replace out within your next post
You gotta contribute something ...

[WhyMafia]

Your vote means nothing if you don't do anything

[WhyMafia]

pretty sure the above from kaede is as close to a perfect example of AtE as you'll get.

Just checked her ISO
Full of AtE
And it did effect me for a bit

[WhyMafia]

im ok with a kaede lynch. you are right im not contributing much. didn't take much for you to vote someone else though.

I can't have two scum reads? Lol
It's not even like I could've pushed you at the time seeing as you hardly post

[WhyMafia]

Kaede definitely today
TChill I want a full reads list from you

[WhyMafia]

no more votes til a vc please. too many lurkers and scum are definitely in the lurkers.

TChill why did you ignore this

[WhyMafia]

you might get one we'll see.

No
You're giving one or else I'm doing everything I can to get you lynched tomorrow

[WhyMafia]

UNVOTE: all
What don't you guys understand about quicklynching lmao

[WhyMafia]

why doe

[WhyMafia]

Hard claim not in a hod

[WhyMafia]

Any last words?

[WhyMafia]

TChill has given two stances this whole game ....

[WhyMafia]

I'm fine with a mass claim
Popcorn starting from the lurkers?

[WhyMafia]

TChill has given two stances this whole game ....

seems like whymaf was hoping to gain some momentum right here.

Of course I am
YOUVE FUCKING SHADED ME EVERY FUCKING TIME I BRING UP LYNCHING YOU
YET YOURE STILL ALIVE AND NOBODY SEES THAT YOUVE BEEN A SCUMFUCK

[WhyMafia]

I'm angry sorry

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: tchill
VOTE: tchill
VOTE: tchill

[WhyMafia]

Why don't any of y'all wanna lynch TChill

[WhyMafia]

Well I have seen an absence of people calling for TChill's blood. And it's a general statement for anyone who've doesn't want TChill dead

[WhyMafia]

Why don't we lynch TChill/Kaifo

[WhyMafia]

As town, kaito definitely should've replace doubt by now. He's literally cruising and this is ridiculous
I've explained TChill

[WhyMafia]

Or is it just this?

TChill has given two stances this whole game ....

And I didn't like how he just popped in and voted multiple times

[WhyMafia]

I can and will eventually when there's information to be gained.

This never happened either

[WhyMafia]

we're lynching fykus if mulch flips town and i'm not caught up at all.

Like what on earth happened to this. If I remember correctly, Fykus wasn't playing good till d3 not d2

[WhyMafia]

mulch can you explain why alisae is scum

you're falling into his trap.

And he was trying to limit our discussion with mulch

[WhyMafia]

And he has never thrown the initiative to push anyone. He's only shaded me every time I bring up lynching him, rather than arguing why he's Town

[WhyMafia]

All in all
He's a scumfuck

[WhyMafia]

yeah i could see una and whymaf. whymaf more so because it looked like he was hoping id be the easy lynch of the day.

???????
What does being easy have anything to do with being scum? I don't give a fuck if it's a so called "easy" lynch. I want to lynch scum. You clearly don't as you've been shading me all day with no substance

[WhyMafia]

Hard claiming VT

[WhyMafia]

Kokichi - Town Neighbor
Dunkerdoodles - VT
skirt skirt - Town Neighbor
UnaBombaH - ???
Egg - ???
Tchill13 - VT
WhyMafia - ???
Kaito Momota - VT
Transcend - Town Dominator

VT

[WhyMafia]

TChill provide something to useful for the last time

[WhyMafia]

Albeit TChill is likely to be Mafia ... if we were to go off setup spec
But is setup spec worth doing in a boon game?

[WhyMafia]

Agree on kaito
Meh on Una/Dunker/Kokoichi
TChill is a scumfuck
Need to re-read egg

[WhyMafia]

Can you say why you scum read me?

[WhyMafia]

@Everyone
Please re-check your role PMs just in case
I was a watcher in my last Normal and I happened to forget I was a PR .....

[WhyMafia]

Give me time to think for a bit ...
I do agree with Egg that I don't like Una's recent posting ... albeit that doesn't mean much in regards to Kokoichi's alignment

[WhyMafia]

I feel more comfortable voting una now dammit
Necessity there is to think. Convince me, everyone must

[WhyMafia]

Intent to hammer today

Just wanna respond to Una

[WhyMafia]

Tchill scum lurking

agreed btw
but NOBODY LISTENS TO ME

[WhyMafia]

Not until every player has hard denied it. If they don't claim it before I call them out they aren't town.

Hard deny

[WhyMafia]

WhyMafia was one of the more sound townreads in this game, which obviously created the wifom of why he hasn't been NK'd yet to a paranoid mind like mine.
Especially with two scum-factions, I'd think it's fairly unlikely that neither team thought he'd be a good kill..but I guess that's just how newbies think.

Fair statement. I have 3 hypothesis:
A) WIFOM
B) Scum are more interested in cross-killing/killing threats
C) Someone who knows me knows I have weak lategame, so they left me alive for this reason

[WhyMafia]

I dislike this post simply because he is willing to agree on Kaito being town (this was an answer to Transcend saying they think Kaito is town), and TChill being scum.
He doesn't commit on "Una/Dunker/Kokoichi" and says he needs to re-read Egg.
It was only two days ago, but at least so far he hasn't taken a stance on that slot.

A) I'm not gonna shy away from expressing myself to look good. I think Kaito's catchup was decent, and warranted not getting lynched today
B) M8 I've been calling Tchill scum since

DAY 1

C) You're an enigma to me, you have some horrible posts, some good posts, and some meh posts. I now town read Dunker BTW. Kokoichi is another enigma to me
D) I've been busy IRL lately sorry ;-;. I'll have more time starting next tuesday (Hype for 5 day weekend cause thanksgiving )

[WhyMafia]

What he has done, however, is notice that I'm going to be one of the easiest mislynches for today, so he is willing to go there...based on Eggs posts.

I've been expressing a scum read on you for a while ... so ???
And I don't understand this fascination with calling yourself an easy mis-lynch
TChill said the exact same thing ... as did Fykus .... If you're calling yourself an easy-mislynch, don't you understand why I scum read you in the first place?

[WhyMafia]

VOTE: Kokoichi

[WhyMafia]

This is an awkward twilight

[WhyMafia]

Should we PM Gamma?

[WhyMafia]

I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED

[WhyMafia]

Transcend why does it make sense for town to have this low amount of power

[WhyMafia]

There's definitely at least 1 scum within Transcend/Skirt Skirt IMO
Transcend does Eddie usually do gambits?

[WhyMafia]

I need to re-read Dunker's ISO bc I remember nothing from him
Agreed with your tone/gut read with Kaito, but it was concerning to me how he basically coasted before, and as town, I feel like he would've replaced out.
Mechanically, I believe your claim + I TR you so that points towards Transcend's guilt
Not sold on the associations with Egg, but still scummy nonetheless
Una is a mix, but by PoE he's townier
My list, town to scum:
Skirt Skirt, Dunker ????, Una, Egg, Transcend
With Dunker subject to change

[WhyMafia]

I have resolved to give the attention this deserves tomorrow

[WhyMafia]

AMA

[WhyMafia]

Tin foil

This is wolf that didn't mention me having a yellow pm since he has the final yellow pm

Tin foil

This was written by a wolf who had that exact thought BECAUSE he has the yellow one.

damn

[WhyMafia]

No matter what, we're lynching between Kaede & Assemble. I'll vote either. I gave some more thought. Neither Assemble, nor Fykus's night actions make sense to me. Kaede's day play has been better than Assemble's, therefore I suppose I'll VOTE: assemble

Right now I think Una is the wolf and think it's best that we lynch wolf today

Is Transcend confirmed or not?

Skirt Skirt retracted the guilty
Why do you think Una is scum again?

[WhyMafia]

I think WhyMafia is a good candidate: he got townread early and waffled a bit with his read on assemble.
IIRC he was also one of the players advocating we save him.
I think he got towncred(?) for coming up with the notion that Kaede/assemble could have been S/S, but it would've been easy at that point to throw it on the table just in case..
He has also dropped his intensity a bit, or at least that's how I see it, and it would fit the profile of him wanting to surf this day through and take the shared victory tomorrow.

I'll try to find time and ISO him tomorrow after I'm done at work.

1) What do you mean I waffled on my read? Can you elaborate? At one point in my big summary post I did advocate keeping him alive due to his PR, but I scum read him for a while and voted him quite often.
2) Why does getting town read early make me scum?
3) I remember saying that as a potential theory. I gave it out as something I thought could be plausible, and it turned out to be true. Clearly I didn't get "town cred" from you for it, yet you still town read me earlier. Why is this post coming from town and not scum?
4) I actually had lots of time D1. I haven't ever since. Sorry about that :/ But why can't this reason be applied to well ... Dunker?

TBH a lot of your reasons for scum reading me seem like What If's or can be applied to others. I'd like to start a dialogue with you though, to hopefully make us easier to sort. Keep giving me questions and I will do my best to respond.

I have a poor track record in LYLO, and want to hear from everyone

[WhyMafia]

Btw, he's still scum. We don't want to lynch mafia so unless you have an argument for wolf!transcend he's not on the table.

I'm tempted on Dunker

[WhyMafia]

Can everyone give their read of Dunker

[WhyMafia]

Hmm
Right now I'm at:
Skirt Skirt, Kaito, Transcend/Dunker/Una/Egg

Obviously that list is humongous
I'm leaning on Una and Dunker as scum

Can someone state why they TR Dunker?

[WhyMafia]

What's the harm in no-lynching as this point in the game BTW?

[WhyMafia]

I'm fine with lynching Dunker
VOTE: Dunker

[WhyMafia]

I'm fine with lynching Dunker
VOTE: Dunker

i mean this is kind of a wolfclaim but i still want transcend/eddie lynch

If you're town, why would you not want the wolf lynched today. We've established it's optimal to lynch the wolf today.

[WhyMafia]

We have 4 days. Nobody hammer tomorrow. I need to think

[WhyMafia]

These latest events should definitely make it clear that unabomb is a better Lynch than dunk. He's actually right that his push to Lynch mafia which is against the grain, is more likely to come from town. Scum him should be perfectly happy with the non-him wolf pool being lynched. Why waste time on Eddie and transcend when he could just NK them when the Lynch is clearly not happening?

As WW, if he lynches 1 member of mafia, that leaves only 1 member of mafia left. That means if he has a successfully kills the last member of mafia tonight, he's pretty set. Or is that wrong.

[WhyMafia]

I do think that talking during twilight is pretty sketch
Una what's the difference in telling us now, or in the future

[WhyMafia]

i've defended myself already and i don't feel like repeating myself
transcend and skirt are both mafia it's pretty obvious imo
una's been towny even though 3678 was scummy, kaito's been towny so that leaves whymaf.
i'd do whymaf or una at this point

Dunker your defense is either
"Bad logic"
"you've been given reasons why you're town" (which i explicitly disagree with)

[WhyMafia]

The fact that Dunker is literally voting a vanity wagon and saying that Transcend/Skirt Skirt are obvious mafia despite not showing/explaining that this late in the day is bad

[WhyMafia]

OKAY SO LIKE DUNKER IS PROBABLY SCUM BECAUSE I RECKON THAT HE WULD HAVE BEEN QUICKLYNCHED AS TOWN

BUT I DONT THINK HE IS THE WOFL

WHY

[WhyMafia]

tt

tt?

[WhyMafia]

I need to get better at scumhunting

[WhyMafia]

My mind was fucked with all this multi ball
Bahhh
Gg everyone!

[WhyMafia]

If anyone has any advice, I'd greatly appreciate it. I originally did hard scum read kaito, but it went down after he posted those few posts. I have no fucking clue how to sort transcend and egg though. If anyone can point out how transcend was Town and why I should've realized egg and kaito were mafia, it'd be really beneficial!

I felt like my day play in general is really good early game, but tends to dwindle as the game keeps going. Was it optimal for me to bus my partners?

Last thing, I've been interested in hydra'ing with someone. I've never hydra'ed before, and I think it'd be fun to share a slot with someone. I tend to struggle with special mechanics, but I feel like if I can safely talk to someone about those mechanics, I might be able to be more confident

[WhyMafia]

ill join the pre in train
/pre in