Arrrrggghhh.
Good. You?
VOTE: FourTrouble
My username is because I live in Texas and my name is Cat.
Arrrrggghhh.
Good. You?
I was looking forward to lynching him.In post 57, Egg wrote:Texcat, why don't you seem happy with a confirmed town?
I agree! More vocal and I can mostly understand it.In post 105, pisskop wrote:lapsa, youve gotten better too, it seems. at least, youre more vocal now
In post 359, FourTrouble wrote:@Lapsa - what do you think of Theta?
In post 364, FourTrouble wrote:@Lore - thoughts on Crush/Theta?
What's your fascination with Theta? She's barely posted. Hardly anything to form an opinion on. What do you think is insanely awkward about her 4 posts?In post 368, FourTrouble wrote:I never voted Lapsa. That's an error.
Theta's posts are insanely awkward. If he's town, I'd be very surprised.
I'd forgotten about that. Now I'm pissed off all over again.In post 535, pisskop wrote:Texcat never seems to.
I remember catching an otherwise neutral texccat in a nightless because of their login time when they shot a guy.
There's still not a lot to go on. You could be right, but I think that "uh wait" is just part of Theta's style. She seems to have 1 completed game where she was town and at a quick glance, I see a lot of the same sort of posting. Newbie 1788In post 582, FourTrouble wrote:Tex, what do you think about Theta now that I've explained the read?
I'd say the answer is Yeah, you did miss something. No one answered at the time, and I guess TChill never bothered to figure it out. He definitely goes in the not paying attention pile.In post 65, Tchill13 wrote:Lapsa is confirmed town? Did I miss something?
In post 67, FourTrouble wrote:Voting mod-confirmed town is scummy. It's similar to self-voting but much worse, much more pro-scum, because while a self-vote might lead to a meaningful wagon on yourself, voting mod-confirmed town leads to nothing, because mod-confirmed town isn't ever getting lynched. There's no possibility of deriving anything meaningful from Transcend's vote and that itself is scummy, it obscures his motives.In post 57, Egg wrote:Fourtrouble, why should we lynch transcend?
In post 152, FourTrouble wrote:What's forced about it? He voted mod-confirmed town. Even if it's "troll," it's pro-scum, for the reasons I've already mentioned.In post 120, Crush wrote:But is it enough to jump on him for? Especially since it was the first vote of the day (and likely a troll vote). Seems kinda forced.
In post 579, FourTrouble wrote:We're not lynching Lapsa.
I am absolutely not going to drink capri sun. What is that and wtf kind of army drinks it?In post 673, Transcend wrote:i am building an army
i need eleven volunteers
we will all vote lore and drink capri sun while doing so
I certainly still find Penguin scummy. We actually have quite a few empty iso's and I feel certain that there is some scum there. I think Penguin; I guess you think Theta. But scum could easily be Vifam or Platinum. I'd like to lynch into that pool of 4, but it wouldn't tell us much and so is probably not the best lynch on Day1.In post 740, FourTrouble wrote:@Tex - can you give us an update on your reads? Is Penguin the only person you find scummy?
Are you just listing the people who don't like your case on Theta? Doesn't that say more about your case than it does about Theta or those on your list?FourTrouble wrote:Let me explain how I'm using associatives, because apparently this sort of analysis is novel to ya'll. The weight of associative information points to Theta:
1. If Tchill is scum, so is Theta.
2. If Massive is scum, so is Theta.
3. If Transcend is scum, so is Theta.
4. If WhyMafia is scum, so is Theta.
5. If Gamma is scum, so is Theta.
6. If Texcat is scum, so is Theta.
7. If Ginn is scum, so is Theta.
If you don't understand one of these associations, I'd be happy to explain. To be clear, these associations don't tell us anything about the alignment of anyone but Theta. They don't tell you anything about the alignment of Tchill, Massive, Transcend, WhyMafia, Gamma, Texcat, or Ginn. But every association points to Theta. And that's telling, because it's likely there's scum among Tchill, Massive, Transcend, WhyMafia, Gamma, Texcat, and Ginn, at least one scum among them, so therefore it's likely that Theta is scum. This pattern -- and it's a scummy pattern -- shows up in most games. It almost always points to scum. I've seen it time and time again. I'm not using a single association to set up a lynching chain. I'm analyzing aggregate associatives to corroborate (not ground) my read on Theta.
If Theta is scum, we'll have to figure out who Theta's partners are. I haven't thought about who yet. Lapsa (and a few others) didn't want to lynch Theta because they were worried Theta's flip wouldn't give us information. In contrast, I'm confident that Theta's flip will give us valuable information, because there's lots of associative information to work with. I haven't sorted through the information yet. That's all I'm saying.
Sorry, I don't understand this. Would you tell us your read on Theta, please? You can just pretend that they are not being replaced if that makes sense.In post 1614, PMysterious wrote:The reason I didn't give reads on those being replaced, is because this is only Day 1, and we have nothing to support the claim of either of them being Town or Scum. I can't give a read on a future player that hasn't posted or been recognized yet.In post 1606, texcat wrote:PMyst, Your reads look to be based on how much non-fluff someone has posted. Is that right? And even though Theta and Platinum are to be replaced, I think your read on them is still relevant and could be helpful. (Or at least your read on Theta.) Remember, that if Theta is scum, that her replacement will still be scum.
And yes, my reads are based on lack of fluff, because the more fluff is posted, the less information can actually be given across without it being lost.
Or lynching you might help.In post 1612, Vedith wrote:Also Tex - Who do you want me to vote for?
Would lynching Trans help with the Avatar issue that annoys you?
It will take you 45 seconds to iso Penguin. If his iso does not seem scummy to you, then I'm not sure I'm going to be much help.In post 1629, Gamma Emerald wrote: Can you level with me on Penguin? I haven't seen anything notable in their posts.
Didn't I try to talk you into a yellow tie the last time we played?In post 1736, Ginngie wrote:I've always been a suit and tie, it's just meIn post 1735, pisskop wrote:thats ginngie
I want to know about her avatar choice, but w.e. She's pretty town.
Wasn't I wearing a red tie when we played together?
Also it's yellow because this year's SUPP, im on team Yellow so gotta represent
Yeah, that's
Yes and nice smudge. Is there some reason you think I'm scum or are you just throwing shade?WhyMafia wrote:Question:
Am I the only one that thinks Tex is scum?
Sorry, it's just the volume of posts make it quite hard to fully grasp what's going on in the game
In post 1631, texcat wrote:It will take you 45 seconds to iso Penguin. If his iso does not seem scummy to you, then I'm not sure I'm going to be much help.In post 1629, Gamma Emerald wrote: Can you level with me on Penguin? I haven't seen anything notable in their posts.
Vedith wrote: Why do you think Lore is trying to protest Trans as town, rather than just ignoring the read or just giving a shot answer?
Yes and yes.Vedith wrote: WhyMafia is voteable because they are not town to you or because of their play (opportunist fuck)?
Which troll is it that you like? Seems like this game is full of them.In post 2583, Tchill13 wrote:I liked the troll tbh.
This.
Slingshot/Waffles is in the Theta slot, right?In post 2656, PMysterious wrote:I looked through Slingshot's entire ISO, and not once did I see a scumclaim. There might have been something that was misinterpreted as a scumclaim, but I did not see a scumcalim. If anything, the Slingshot wagon feels like it was just made out of the sake of making a wagon.In post 2652, Gamma Emerald wrote:Slingshot scumclaimed
So, Gamma, Albert, if you two are reading this, I would like to see where in the ISO you noticed a "scumclaim", and quote the ENTIRE post, not just parts of it.
WTF? You spent 100 pages telling us to lynch Theta. Spelling out bullshit preflip associations to Theta. Then when the Theta slot gets to L-1, you suddenly bail? What kind of crap is this?In post 2768, FourTrouble wrote:I'd like to pivot the lynch to JJD. Thoughts?
PMysterious wrote:Oh, well in that case. I would say platinum/Judge, Albert, Trans, and texcat are the most likely scumteam.In post 3048, Vedith wrote:I mean in your opinion....
Judge for the desperation play, Albert for saying that there was an "obvious" scumclaim and wagoning Gamma and you, Trans is the wild card of the group, and texcat for the hammer on the innocent child, I think.
I don't think so. Can you point to where he claimed?
Mutton led the charge on Lore. Why do TChill and Gamma look town for voting Lore, but not Mutton?In post 3080, pisskop wrote:all the votes on lore right here actually look pretty townie. Lessso the mutton one, but the tchill and gamma ones do all right.
Why's Tex rundown Trying to run up Tex when lore is in trouble.
Huh? You just gave Gamma town cred for voting Lore, but now you say that he derailed the Lore wagon. This is nonsensical.In post 3080, pisskop wrote:This is good post. the first quality post Ive seen in a few pages. Of course, wifom, but assuming lore is a competent and aggressive maf player its not bad.In post 2344, Tchill13 wrote:I think lores best chance to lynch someone else was when the pmysterious wagon started to get some traction.
The derailing of the lore wagon 2369 by gamma.
The spazzing out of Judge Dredd
False assoc, even though you point out that WhyMafia was deflecting from Lore?In post 3080, pisskop wrote:~ what?In post 2632, Lore wrote:i am not okay with a whymafia lynch until someone gives me a reason why he is scummy
You arent really in a position to make demands. Nor claim you wont 'lynch somebody because they don't have a reason for being scummy'. The reason they look scummy is that they are playing poorly, and they were on the block all game.
this looks a bit like false associations, should lore flip red.
And what does only 1 kill last night mean?In post 3080, pisskop wrote:This looks good to me. ABR can be town still. For now.
Just be glad I kept reading after the flip came.In post 2660, Vedith wrote: Just be glad it's only 25
This is ... meh. We could not tie the viggie up on lore.In post 2665, MuttonChopMagic wrote:if there's an actual vig and she's scum then obviously she's eating a bullet tonight no vig cc needed
if she's town and scum don't have a blocker (they don't always!!) we get a new conf town meat eater
Overall Im glad you left them to prove or disprove themselves. But how do you seperate scumkills from vigkills. Being a solid scummy slot doesnt guarantee anything, if multiballs and crosskills.
A town vig would mean either sk/town or weak-scum multiballs.
As I said yesterDay, FourTrouble was advocating for Theta's lynch strongly right up until Waffles, Theta's replacement, got close to a lynch. I didn't understand his change and when I asked he just said I was paranoid.In post 3080, pisskop wrote:<3In post 2705, Albert B. Rampage wrote:ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME MUTTON LOOK AT THIS SLOT. TWO PLAYERS REPLACED OUT OF THIS SCUM SLOT AND THE THIRD IS LITERALLY THE SCUMMIEST PLAYER YOU HAVE EVER SEEN IN YOUR LIFEIn post 2122, SlingshotWaffles wrote:I'm just saying that if I'm Town, I'm VI.
I mean, Im not gung ho about this, but you make a great arguement.
This vote to derail the Waffle wagon.In post 2785, FourTrouble wrote:Oh, really? I missed that. Why hasn't a wagon formed on this guy yet?In post 2782, Transcend wrote:Platinum posted something the mod deleted along the lines of "fuck this site, btw i was scum".
VOTE: JJD
Wholly hell I got bored.
- Why are we derailing the wagons for a Judge Judy lynch? I would not have been opposed to his roping were I here, but with 2 good wagons there idkwtf you guys are going fetching claims for scum to shoot at or wifom and ignore.
I'll accept scumpoints here.In post 3080, pisskop wrote:I just wanted to point this out. Tex and Vedi can have scumpoints here.
I still don't think that Waffles could have made up that claim. And I thought Lore's claim to a N1 vig was scummy as hell. With PM's flip, I was obviously wrong. My guess now is that scum have day chat and helped Waffles with the claim.In post 3128, Albert B. Rampage wrote:When texcat said that waffles claim sounded real, it became apparent to me she was scum too.In post 3123, WhyMafia wrote:Let's all be friends instead.
And why is everyone suddenly SR'ing Tex? I mean ...I think he's scum, but yesterday nobody supported me. What changed?
Who are the other two?In post 3148, Transcend wrote:there's 3 kitties in this game and i'm the only doggo
Sorry, I was in a hurry to get to a meeting. Did I forget anyone else?In post 3353, texcat wrote:{Lapsa}
{ABR, Mutton, Trans}
{Egg, Lore, Vedith}
{Fykus/Gin, massive, TChill}
{jjh927/Gamma, Crush, Lexa, Penguin}
{WhyMafia, FourTrouble}
{pisskop}
{SlingshotWaffles}
Popcorn toFourTrouble.
This make absolutely no sense whatsoever. You broadcast that you were going to target TChill. Why would scum try to kill him? Lore has stated that he killed PM. And I believe him.In post 3502, SlingshotWaffles wrote:Vanilla Townie result.In post 3501, Srceenplay wrote:I need clarification on your role.
Do you get a vanilla result or vanilla town result?
Do you know that you healed Tchill (mod confirmed)?
Yeah it's mod conf that I healed him.
In post 3554, jjh927 wrote:Tex, my understanding is that he is told whether or not his action succeeds, not whether or not his target was attacked.
In post 3502, SlingshotWaffles wrote:Vanilla Townie result.In post 3501, Srceenplay wrote:I need clarification on your role.
Do you get a vanilla result or vanilla town result?
Do you know that you healed Tchill (mod confirmed)?
Yeah it's mod conf that I healed him.
Who do you suppose attacked him, knowing that Waffles was going to protect him?In post 3560, jjh927 wrote:Texcat, why are you so certain Tchill didn't get attacked?
So what exactly did the mod confirm to you?In post 3572, SlingshotWaffles wrote:(joke)In post 3571, SlingshotWaffles wrote:Is slap a Daykill?In post 3570, jjh927 wrote:Consider yourself slapped, Waffles
Slap: jjh
But I actually don't think that Maf hit Tchill.
In post 3567, jjh927 wrote:No clue tbh I'm just weirded out a little by your confidence in both sides of the argument at not very distant points in time.
I thought Waffles had declared that TChill was vanilla town. If TChill is scum, then Waffles has to be scum. Why aren't you voting Waffles?In post 3871, WhyMafia wrote:My motivation is that as town I consider you scum, and thus someone needed to be eliminated. You can just as easily be bussing. And I'm voting Crush due to Transcend not youIn post 3869, Tchill13 wrote:What's the motivation in this? I jumped off your wagon, started the crush wagon and you voted with me. Why are you voting WITH your scum read?In post 3855, WhyMafia wrote:TChill is scum
I don't know many of the players in this game, but the ones I've played with before like Transcend, pisskop, Vedith, ABR, lapsa, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some again, could probably come up with the claim. I could easily see it as a collaborative effort.In post 3766, Egg wrote: Texcat, your theory is that scum (who you obviously feel have daytalk) gave waffles the fakeclaim. Give me a list of players in this game who you think are capable of coming up with that claim.
I obviously had a different idea of what Waffles meant when he said that the mod confirmed that he healed TChill. I thought that meant that TChill was attacked and that Waffles healed him. But TChill makes zero sense as the scum kill. And Lore claims to have killed PM. I'm reluctantly willing to accept that you can heal someone with them being attacked, but I still don't accept Waffles' claim.In post 3818, Egg wrote:Texcat, why does one of lore/waffles have to be lying?
Whelp, I'll keep voting Waffles, at any rate.In post 4119, Crush wrote:Just lynch Waffles if both him and Tchill are alive tomorrow, thank you. Good game guys, sorry for not putting in enough effort.
In post 4429, Fykus wrote:Why would waffles verify teech when he wouldnt know if he were scum or not? Unless he got recruited night 1
TChill claimed VT. Waffles verified him to prove his role.In post 4430, Srceenplay wrote:That's my point.
There would be no reason for a scum TChill to ask to get checked by Waffles.In post 2831, Tchill13 wrote:So he can only protect vt's? If that's the case he could protect me this night phase and clear my slot as VT right? Which would also protect me from Lore if his claim is real.
On Day 2, Lore took credit for the kill and explained the non-read of the soft claim.
@WhyMafia, What is your case on TChill? Are you still voting there?In post 3250, Lore wrote: i shot pm. i didn't read pm's claim as a soft pr claim though looking back now i can see why i should. it just didn't really even occur to me that thats what she might have been doing and the town seemed on board with a pm kill last night. like i said: i went back and forth between PM and WM (to try and get one of the town favored scum, tchill was not on my lsit because waffles was going to "confirm" him) and Mutton (my personal vendetta). i decided to follow what i thought the town majority would prefer since few if anyone else read mutton as scummy. that said: i do feel like total shit for shooting a pr so like..... sorry. i am basically vt now since i've used my one and only night action so i care much less if you guys want to lynch me today but it would still be a mistake over lynching actual scum.
waffles i can see as being scum aligned or town aligned. i made it pretty clear that i was considering shooting tchill last night then waffles comes in and says he is a VT healer/investigator/thing and tchill jumped in with a "INVESTIGATE ME" which could be a weird scum plan, esp IF there is day chat which we don't and wont know unless there is a role that somehow reveals that which from what i know isn't a thing.
In post 4406, texcat wrote:@Transcend, Day 2 you said you had a hard innocent, and then you changed your mind. Can you explain what happened? Why do you now have 2 soft guilties?