Large Normal 205: Sibling's Love and Quarrel [Endgame]

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert


Cant calm my mans down, he got that eagle too

[Zachstralkita]

Wagoning Vedith on page 1 is like getting French fries at Red Lobster

[Zachstralkita]

@Mulch I literally dare you try that shit this game. You can get lynched within a page LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

dawg Transcned I was going to do that meme but all the games it was in were locked so I couldn't quote ittttt LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

OK, so people are still doing RVS, which is pointless.

I have a hunch that there are no duplicate roles in the game due to the fact that we only had to confirm our role and not alignment.

Thoughts?

RVS on page 2? The nerve of those fucking lunatics.



Also don't you kind of confirm your align with your role?

Vedith has a different tone to his bullshittery when he's scum to when he's town, and his very first post is of the scum!Vedith variety

Oh, my bad, actually meant the second

By all measures it's far too early to tell. Esp. since a wagon built up on him.


Vedith scumtelling with his tone is only in relation to content. Otherwise his tone is NaI


And there's been no content here


You just read like you're eager to sR him and are well versed in reading him. I don't think your posts support the latter. i thought the wagon was a joke to begin with






VOTE: jjh

[Zachstralkita]

Let me just pause to ask you



















You scumread his chickadee and NL votes?

[Zachstralkita]

All of page 1 and page 2 Vedith is NAI for Vedith (except for the no lynch post)



That shits a reach


Speaking of which we not nolynching so you...guys..can..stop.. the joke

[Zachstralkita]

Do you post like that all the time sir.

[Zachstralkita]

I've often wondered how it hasn't become town meta to no lynch the fuck out of D1.

VOTE: No Lynch

You're joking right

I know the other two are probably joking but you're joking right

[Zachstralkita]

I've often wondered how it hasn't become town meta to no lynch the fuck out of D1.

VOTE: No Lynch

You're joking right

I know the other two are probably joking but you're joking right

What are the benefits of lynching on D1?

No lynching mechanically benefits scum day one

Gifs are my king, puns are my god. Of course, having said that I can't think of any puns. Woe.

Don't really understand what the point of no lynch on D1 would be. Care to explain how that would do anything other than hand the advantage to the mafia with a pretty bow on top?

Are you new or alt? I was thinking MariaR from the first post but that doesn't make sense now

There's an obvscum btw

But I'm keeping my meme vote until I'm bored and vote him/her.

Was hoping I'd catch your eye darling

[Zachstralkita]

Who would have thought chess wasn't alignment indicative huh?



Vedith wagon is worse by the way

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It's not even the wagon lmao it's jjh



Obliteration processes are a go

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You're not talking about something in this game though are u


The nolynch meme is just that

[Zachstralkita]

The point of the trap was actually to see which wolves would be opportunistic and vote for me

That's not a trap. Maybe they voted Day 1 no lynchers when people played mafia in like 1997 LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

From queue I got the impression that LQ was returning from a hiatus. Is this true?

[Zachstralkita]

From queue I got the impression that LQ was returning from a hiatus. Is this true?

More or less. I took a break from the site for a while. Had other concerns regarding Mafia. I am back now, however.

Ok that literally clears up all the concerns I had about this slot tbh

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch do you take recreational drugs

[Zachstralkita]

From queue I got the impression that LQ was returning from a hiatus. Is this true?

More or less. I took a break from the site for a while. Had other concerns regarding Mafia. I am back now, however.

Ok that literally clears up all the concerns I had about this slot tbh

What be these concerns?

A lot of these posts were "bad" to me, low level effort or applying surface level reasoning to players who aren't surface level

But I remembered how you inned and I said I can see someone not playing in a while making them

Spoiler:

OK, so people are still doing RVS, which is pointless.

I have a hunch that there are no duplicate roles in the game due to the fact that we only had to confirm our role and not alignment.

Thoughts?

this post was bad. the last part is NAI kinda

Vedith is Scummy for no lynch.

this post was bad

Kaboose obv town

I, the king of this game declare we're not NLing

So get that idea out of your head.

You are Town reading for bad behavior. Where is the consequence for poor strategy?

this post was bad

I remembered you're not comfortable with mafia, so maybe that chess is a nerve release.

Do we know the same LUV? I think not.

Spill me your meta at Luv.

Nah.

If anything I think the chess move is more indicative of town LUV though. But it's too early for me to say for sure.

But lets just say I know him well.

Prolly because you are both Scum?

this post was bad

K when i get home from work I'm bussing my partner

Toodles

Good, so you are going to find a reason to Scum read your buddy. I will look for this.

this post was bad

[Zachstralkita]

Mulch do you take recreational drugs

Who is more scummy, tranacend or me? If you had to take a side, now.

My answer is you

[Zachstralkita]

I like Steel. I think his concern about UZI is NaI tho.

Mulch do you take recreational drugs

Who is more scummy, tranacend or me? If you had to take a side, now.

My answer is you

Give explicit reasoning, now.

Dont do this w me dude I'm going to rope you so hard you get friction burn

I haven't seen you do anything really so I'm trying to sort you and not conbias on your slot

Transcend when he is town does not have a hard time showing it. In relation to you he is way townier


Why is he scum besides "gut"? You don't get scum!Transcend with gut.

[Zachstralkita]

I like Steel. I think his concern about UZI is NaI tho.

Mulch do you take recreational drugs

Who is more scummy, tranacend or me? If you had to take a side, now.

My answer is you

Give explicit reasoning, now.

Dont do this w me dude I'm going to rope you so hard you get friction burn

I haven't seen you do anything really so I'm trying to sort you and not conbias on your slot

Transcend when he is town does not have a hard time showing it. In relation to you he is way townier


Why is he scum besides "gut"? You don't get scum!Transcend with gut.

@zAhh
1) how is he much townier than me in relation, that's the question and you answered it by just stating that

You've both done nothing, you've taken more posts and he has some good reads. Town priority goes to.... Transcend.

2) gut is a perfectly find reason lmao

You're not lynching anyone with just gut so case what you have to and do so cohesively

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend is setting off my gut and he's also doing a shit ton of things that's bothering me, like:

Cheap shallow answers
Lamist
Pocketing me - especially calling me scum then town again
Trying to use our penguin game as some sort of read yet failing at it miserably

Not really a case, this is the type of post that made me want to lynch you in Large 203. There's no depth, substance or specificity.



I'm gonna sort you harsh as fuck. I'm not in your head so don't act like I know what you're doing


If you're scum you're gonna get fucked lol if you're town less rapid posting more bulk when you post

[Zachstralkita]

I was calling SD an alt, not you Kaboose




I feel a certain type of way about 209 compared to how I read you so far so I'll just think about it

[Zachstralkita]

mulch do you use baby powder or baking soda when you make your crack for personal consumption

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend is setting off my gut and he's also doing a shit ton of things that's bothering me, like:

Cheap shallow answers
Lamist
Pocketing me - especially calling me scum then town again
Trying to use our penguin game as some sort of read yet failing at it miserably

Not really a case, this is the type of post that made me want to lynch you in Large 203. There's no depth, substance or specificity.



I'm gonna sort you harsh as fuck. I'm not in your head so don't act like I know what you're doing


If you're scum you're gonna get fucked lol if you're town less rapid posting more bulk when you post

VOTE: zachalstika

Lmao your accusing me of no depth when 1) there actually is depth 2) it's the first day of day 1

And your reactions are overs aggregated

1) You must not know what depth means


2) This is correct


3) No they're not. You wouldn't be able to tell if they were either.




This is me responding serious. I need more to respond to.

[Zachstralkita]

Meme vote over

VOTE: jjh

Mafia.

Lynch.

[Zachstralkita]

Duuuuuuude I used to play soad all the time when I was younger

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System of a Down and Nine Inch Nails in 2017

Uzi bro you gone have to run my hands. Whats the problem if we going to be bumping Illmatic in 3090





Okay so I really think we should just give Mulch a post limit Day 1 and sort him after that. I feel like this is going to take up so much time and theres something else on my read on him that I don't want to say right now. We have scum we can lynch..like...jjh....

Your an experienced enough player to know about pre flip but don't know that no lynches are bad and don't know or recognize pocketing? Give me a fucking break

It's my opinion that they are good. I believe in town powers doing great things by chance on N1 more than I believe us lynching a scum D1 by chance. That's really what it comes down to.

[Zachstralkita]

Who wants to start the Steel fan club with me

[Zachstralkita]

Who wants to start the Steel fan club with me

No

Who wants to start the vig steel fan club with me?

Man guys, don't tell me I have to start white "knighting" Steel HHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAA

[Zachstralkita]

Oh god he's scarier when he talks normal

[Zachstralkita]

I think you two are TvT so far and I hope Mulch had some warm milk before bed

[Zachstralkita]

What's the difference between dark and light green you piece of shit

And why is Realeo of all people your only other red

[Zachstralkita]

I just saw his scum game I will throw Nos down a flight of steps if he thinks he can do that

[Zachstralkita]

SD had initially pinged me but I think I actually want to genuinely sort the slot rather than keeping the obvious read after reading her later posts

And also when she said she was new which explains some of why she pinged me




I'm acc going to slap u though if you prefer lynching someone outside of our [active] pool

[Zachstralkita]

ugh but hugghhgh i donteven remember why i sr jj

i did but i guess it wasn't that strong ugh

He deadass said this is Vediths scum game off the first page which is total bullshit all things considered. There's a way to read Vedith and that's not how you do that

I thought everyone else's vote there was a joke


That said Vedith is on NL still, if he stays there seriously I'm not going to have a tolerance for his shitposting

later: OKAY LOOK AT ME IM SO NEW AND IM SO TOWN LA LA LA

Yeah I got everything else, but she didn't project to me with this attitude. I want more content from there






Also to keep it blunt Steel hasn't done too much of anything has he

[Zachstralkita]

Like you have to reasonably be able to tell that Uzi's chess entrance is NaI. Those things are more of a tell when people do them during the game

[Zachstralkita]

Lmfao son. I like posting like that just not nearly as hyper cause people can't read me then they vote me which pisses me off

[Zachstralkita]

Not sure if Kaboose is dropping pings or hard towntells LOOOOL

[Zachstralkita]

Hee hee

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Nay, upon ISO I wonder if zachstralkita is a good choice myself.

Don't tell me you think the games content warrants my ISO to be a certain way



Not at all. We've done nothing besides talk about Vedith, Mulch, how much Mulch posts, Mulch vs Kaboose which is annoying, dumb rvs vedith wagon and a little side of uzi getting scumread for entrances. I've said what I had to with some exceptions and most of the shit is redundant. Vedith is being dumb now so I don't care if he gets PL'd D1. Do you want me to make up the fucks I'm giving in this game?



Please don't talk about my ISO. You have jack shit in your ISO that can be really used for sorting save for prodding Uzi for incorporating chess into Mafia theory which is weird but it means literally nothing. It's hard for that to be AI imo for you or him.

[Zachstralkita]

Not liking Kaboose post 209 is a big one for me he bashes Transcend for buddying and then does it in the same post and then again a few later.

Let's move on to page 10
How much have trancend and kaboose played also why can't you make pre flips this early there's plenty of posts

VOTE: Kaboose
Zach can wait and we can tunnel each other again.

Lol we scumread each other correctly in Large 201 I called u and Fro9



They didn't want to lynch you til the end thooo

[Zachstralkita]

If I had got you right Trqnscndd I would have called the white team but I was preoccupied with WKing you for town cred so I wrote you off LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

Pedit: I was town in large 201!

LMAO fuck I'm high

[Zachstralkita]

Steel do you care that I'm trying to engage you over any conflict you have with my posting? Jw



Vedith I fucking love you man. What's the next most productive thing you can do besides no lynching? Vote a fucking slot with barely any activity, that's how




Transcend. Nosferatu read...?

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith I fucking love you man. What's the next most productive thing you can do besides no lynching? Vote a fucking slot with barely any activity, that's how

I get an A for effort though, right?

I think you've towned to me

[Zachstralkita]

dangman

SD might actually be scum

dangeroo

Hmm might be too early to tell. I think you and I are looking at the same type of "apparent" scum tells but we don't have a lot of hard stuff from that slot to weigh it against. It's a lazy ass wagon right now imo.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Nosferatu



Your presence I summon

[Zachstralkita]

Ohh I sseee.. you're calling LAMIST what I don't read as lamist

[Zachstralkita]

I can infer from that post she's read at least two pages I just don't know which two



Are we getting a sequel, SD?

[Zachstralkita]

I'm sorry my contempt for human beings has to seep out at some point


Nah I just havent seen a whole lot of sorting from you so I wanted to see what you were getting at

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone else thinks LUV got scum this game?

Are u thinking Large 200 Uzi

VOTE: creature

he's mafia

he feels tonally off

What

[Zachstralkita]

I mean not the numbers tho is his style the same? I havent checked


I don't think post count means anything lol

[Zachstralkita]

Nosferatu is sketch

now vote with da doggo

don't be ashamedto vote with da doggo

sometimes he lands scum

Eh I feel like Creature has to scumtell to me.

[Zachstralkita]

I think the Uzi push blows tho the thing is Creature is an enigma to me

[Zachstralkita]

Nosferatu is sketch

how's that

Your usual suspect fashion

also define scumtell

Like he needs to play scummy to me. What he's doing sucks but I have to see it coming from scum plus this is like the first thing he's done since his weird theory post


Im wondering what Transcend sees that I dont

[Zachstralkita]

I work better making one (with at most 2-3) lines posts.

Hence why you'll have to get used with 4 posts in a row.

I guess you're scum and you're just inflating your post count.

Are u thinking Large 200 Uzi

Yes, where we thought he was active but he was just inflating his post count.

VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

ok ya this is scum

This reads to me like the type of posting Creature talking about and the posting luv is doing are two different things




As in I think he believes this fr


Not as "glaring" to me.

[Zachstralkita]

Fuck man

I've been scum against creature several times and i have a fairly good understanding of how he plays as town

This isn't it.

Who are 3 people youre lynching in today? Include Creature

[Zachstralkita]

Zach what are you on, I want some.

Are you referring to specific posts of mine or all of them?

[Zachstralkita]

Zach what are you on, I want some.

Are you referring to specific posts of mine or all of them?

I was actually referring to 440, but I'd also love to know why you think LUV isn't scum.

Oh lmfao. Mostly sober besides a little wax all tree is gone rn




Lil Uzi Vertical's entrance was not alignment indicative and his posts haven't stood out to me in a negative way. I will run back from start to look at this Creature Sr on Uzi and why Transcend scumreads him because I think creature was towny too



Can you give me a reads list or full catch up? There's some things about you that ping me but I want to chalk up to your inexperience. I need to understand your thought processes though

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Creature

This is probably a good time to shift vote. I don't believe I've played with Creature before but I am vaguely familiar with him

Thanks for bussing lol

No seriously what reason do you have to vote here?

LOOL that shit was ew

[Zachstralkita]

Me?

His hop on Creature

[Zachstralkita]

Large 200 - Lil Uzi Vert

Despite not being too behind in the post count, Lil Uzi Vert didn't bring anything and was eventually lynched and flipped scum.

LMFAO UZI HE TRIED TF OUT OF YOU

[Zachstralkita]

Jj sounds sensible

What

[Zachstralkita]

Zach - I find your lack of faith in my scumread disturbing. You're also just constantly spilling random crap and I have a hard time reading around it.

One question


Fuck are u talking bout

[Zachstralkita]

That reads list screams new town to me though, jesus. It actually sickens me

[Zachstralkita]

That reads list screams new town to me though, jesus. It actually sickens me

It screams "How am I doing Trans? Am I a cool scum member with you yet?" to me.
But I'm considering yours too.

I have a reads list?

@Sunlit: I'm not posting random shit like you're talking about at all. Your concerns about my posting are vague as shit. I don't know what you mean about the Creature read. I'm attempting to sort you


Enough bullshitting I suppose, I have a "scumread" on Steel and I say "scumread" because our wagons thus far this game have been literal piss so I'm doing the best I can IMO






First off the medieval gimmick doesn't mean anything AI. His posts are actually really honest but there is no analysis in them IMO besides him speculating a little about Uzi. The way he unvotes people he was voting reads to me like he didn't really sr them lol

Spoiler:

As for chess? It's quite simple. You can tell a lot about a person by the way they play chess. Certain playstyles reflect certain personality types and personality is a big part of a tool called meta. Meta when used correctly can help read just about anybody.

Dost ye all verily believe this explanation? Methought his game was done in jest, but such an reasoning as this is naught but falsehood.

Okay, I get the sentiment but I think this is an assumption you might jump to if he said this in like real life. You can't really tell his alignment from his theory about chess and to suggest that this vote was actually serious annoys me.

So, people really think his explanation was realistic. I've played some chess and my impression is only in high level play do players feel out opponents and such, and that for any random person it's a ridiculous conceit.

In context he was joking around too, so for him to later say that was his serious attempt at getting a read is very strange. Had I dayvig, I would have used it when I read that.

Was he joking?

The fact that you put him in your dayvig pool off of something NaI is lol

VOTE: jjh927

Oft this would give some points for initiative, but done so right after transcend's post it is not such.

But would he get "points" since you were already scumreading him?

Nay, upon ISO I wonder if zachstralkita is a good choice myself.

Doesn't specify any posts or.. anything. I lashed back at this cause I felt at this point we'd done similar amounts of shit in the game so for you to look at my "ISO" and arrive at the conclusion that I'm a debatable choice wasn't logical imo.

VOTE: Sunlit Diamond

oh FFFFFS I had a post written up and then I hit the wrong button.

Sum up: Mulch and Kaboose read probably TvT to me, but Kaboose less town-y because he got way defensive over a super obvious attack. Chickadee was reading town but then she posted the thing everyone's arguing about and now I'm not so sure. I wasn't surprised Mulch told Kaboose to shut up because Mulch had clearly gone off the shit talk deep end in order to make his point, but Chickadee was reasonable up to that point so it makes no sense for her to try to end the conversation unless she was worried something would turn up.

UNVOTE:

It reads fair and true.

Here's the SD vote/unvote. Her response was entirely underwhelming to make you unvote because I don't see what about SD's post read anything other than null, unless you were talking about her tone. It's like you voted her, and the post sort of appealed to you, and you unvoted. I just don't get the thought process through which you can so easily leave the same people you found scummy for ... light reasons

Lil uzi vert's latest postings are much improved, at present I seek his death no longer.

Needs I must reread and find some thing of new substance.

So his posting about the game reads townier to you than his posting about chess. I guess this is to be expected?

Steel do you care that I'm trying to engage you over any conflict you have with my posting? Jw

You appeared to react very angrily as though my statement was a harsh critique, and done with strong conviction. But it is not the case and ere I felt strongly of it, I would have voted.

I would like to find something I believe is scum, rather than direct my efforts at what I merely feel ambivalent towards.

I already responded to this and my initial post was kinda extra but I'm trying to find out if you're sorting players or just being liberal with your vote.

I would like to see where this goes

VOTE: Steel

[Zachstralkita]

Like voting then unvoting cause you are now unsure doesn't wholly constitute sorting. This is my issue. I don't think you're directly pressing people at all if so they've been rare instances

[Zachstralkita]

I would intend to say nothing further until I have someone I do wish to lynch, as I see not the value in posting whilst as indecisive as I am currently.

Perhaps you are right however, and asking around may be provide some inspiration faster.

Should one vote up a wagon they are conflicted on, just to see what happens hence? Would it not be acting in bad faith? Is it irresponsible, or perhaps sometimes necessary?

So do you need an "event" to happen for you to scumhunt? That's what I'm inferring.

The elephant on the table Mulch vs Kaboose I could not make head or tail of, and it is such still. Mulch cases very hard and pushes a read with such conviction as defies belief. I share chikadee's thought on mulch asking kaboose to not even defend himself to be scummy.

Yet kaboose claims he was very upset and hating of mulch, and it doesn't quite show through. He describes himself as feeling very hurt but I do not pick up the feeling, in truth his tone is rather unfazed to my mind. At the very least I do not believe it to be scum theatre, but I would hope to read more of each before making my judgement.

Oh... you just... didn't take a stance, huh...hmm that's a curveball

Mulch pushing with such conviction has to mean something though, and so does Kaboose being indifferent

Do you mean to tell me you don't have any theories from that interaction without them posting further? What about the people who reacted to it?

I would have liked to pressure lil uzi vert more, yet everyone dismissed it outright and ignored it. If there were more votes to follow perhaps he'd have felt some pressure, but I think even he did not take it seriously as it were.

Sunlit Diamond reads to be thinking about things to rather significant depth, and such is good enough a tell for now from a newer player.

Good point on Uzi.

If he was gonna get pressured, could it have been for scummy play and not chess? Like the fact that it got pulled out of nowhere gave it less credibility





Like what type of game is this? Is it gonna be a "you're manipulating me with memes" type deal?

[Zachstralkita]

Nos how about you handcuff one of your hands to mine this game




I have a little fucking trust issue


For




Some







Reason

[Zachstralkita]

Pretty sure my point is in relevance to the pressure on Uzi and not the reasons for why Uzi is Scum. My point holds true regardless of what one might think of the the fact Uzi tried to play chess with someone to get a read on them.

But do you think the more votes didn't come to Uzi because of that reason

[Zachstralkita]

Nos how about you handcuff one of your hands to mine this game
I have a little fucking trust issue
For
Some
Reason

nah fam
i aint into that bondage shit

nah i was going to laser eye you like I'm doing to mulch this game

[Zachstralkita]

Steel vote on Nos... now that's interesting

[Zachstralkita]

I have the best idea ever this game

[Zachstralkita]

We informally gladiate between Steel and Nosferatu














Unless you're all scared

[Zachstralkita]

We informally gladiate between Steel and Nosferatu

Unless you're all scared

I've been meaning to tell you - adding spaces in between what you say is pointless and annoying.

Why must we be scared in order to disagree?

I'll space out each letter for you next time...

I dunno I think our main wagons are stagnant and not founded well or at least we need more engagements on some of them. I wanna go in some type of different direction. Speaking of which, where the fuck Mulch and Kaboose at lmao

We informally gladiate between Steel and Nosferatu

I don't read steel as scum right now, so thats kind of a lose-lose for me.

Do you have thoughts on what I said about him


He's since been engaging people more but still

[Zachstralkita]

I have so many words for the postings of Mulch

[Zachstralkita]

I'm acc lying lol I've never seen him post like that, usually it's unintelligible hyperactive things when he's scum

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

@Mulch
Nosferatu is all over the place I kinda ignored it.

With Uzi. It's a little bit subjective but let me played it out:

From my experience, LUV is noticeably uncomfortable (qualitative analysis not comparative) when playing scum. I have played a game with LUV where he was caught guilty and I have mod a game with LUV where he's pretty much universal scum read.

When I say "uncomfortable", I don't mean he can't make posts, but he's not confident with his posts.

I think most of LUV's post are "safe" posts signlaing him not comfortable to go bold. I don't see anything confrontational when there's pretty much a lot to pick up here.

It a little bit bothers me LUV decided to scumread Elena when Elena is outside the spin zone when he doesn't have a stand with others inside the spin zone.

Can you go into this part more? I usually can't read Uzi early because he posts so casual I think I'm just talking to him like normal

[Zachstralkita]

Yo I'm

the

Steel fanclub. Your current vote is quite telling. You have yet to make peace with yourself or your lord and savior Jesus Christ. I can give you a pamphlet if you join me. My vla will be ending when I find myself awake, but for now VOTE: Realeo. I've been digging Transcend, so the offer is extended to you as well dawg.

THATS HOW I KNOW YOU A DIVA - WHERE IM FROM BEING OPEN MINDED MEAN A HOLE IN YOUR CAESAR

From jjhnumbers, Realeo and Nosferatu, Realeo looks worse.

Nah I actually need you to explain this. How u have Realeo really looking worse than these 2>? LOL

nosferatu may be nuller at the moment but I don't see how you have Real less town than them

[Zachstralkita]

jjhnumbers is a townread, while Nosferatu doing this is something I sort of expect.

But what do you scumread Real for this game? I don't know anything about that other game and I have close to zero meta on him so it doesn't influence me any






Re: Transcend: Bro you started the Creature wagon with "He's tonally off" why are you surprised the wagon comp is questionable LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: realeo

creature still scummy

relaeo's vte was p non committal there somaybe a bus

lolpfa

can someone give their 2c about the creature wagon construction because i'm baffled by it rn

Why are you still confident calling it a bus given wagon composition?

[Zachstralkita]

Elena, your votes this game have been... jeez.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: realeo

creature still scummy

relaeo's vte was p non committal there somaybe a bus

lolpfa

can someone give their 2c about the creature wagon construction because i'm baffled by it rn

Why are you still confident calling it a bus given wagon composition?

like it's like "why are so many people voting thi scummy slot"

then i realized realeo didn't do much to push on creature (vice versa tbh) so it leads me to think it could be bussing to lok good for future vcas

But FMPOV the Creature wagon start makes no sense so you jumping to Realeo makes me think you're going off the same path that was used to create the Creature wagon because I didn't see what you're getting at when you started it and I don't see where you're going here cause it's following the same logic

Like that happened several pages ago. Do you think your Creature SR is actually solid for the reason that you gave?



The only thing that pings me about Creature is him SRing realeo the most off the wagon members LOL

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend you play scum very well I'm not going to give you a pass the whole time. I got finessed twice already lmfao

[Zachstralkita]

Meh something about creature hasn't pinged the "yep creature is town" bell and in fact some of his posts look p stinky.

Ok is realeo's posting itself scummy tho

[Zachstralkita]

Elena, your votes this game have been... jeez.

Would you like to talk on them or vote me for them? Either work.

Let's talk about all of them lol either be passive or aggressive with me, don't be both



Im not trying to kill you lmao

[Zachstralkita]

Elena, your votes this game have been... jeez.

Would you like to talk on them or vote me for them? Either work.

Let's talk about all of them lol either be passive or aggressive with me, don't be both



Im not trying to kill you lmao

I was not trying to be aggressive I was trying to come off nonchalant, What votes of mine don't you like and why?

Do you really scum read the people you voted? Vedith was RVS but do you scum read Vedith right now?

[Zachstralkita]

everyone I voted minus you and Vedith I have some type of sr on yes.

Let's speak on Kaboose and Real then

[Zachstralkita]

Oh boy

Uzi vertical, how do you feel about re igniting the JJ wagon?

[Zachstralkita]

I literally could've just lied right there

and you don't care, despite lecturing on complacency.

That's ya town read tho

[Zachstralkita]

Not liking Kaboose post 209 is a big one for me he bashes Transcend for buddying and then does it in the same post and then again a few later.

Let's move on to page 10
How much have trancend and kaboose played also why can't you make pre flips this early there's plenty of posts

VOTE: Kaboose
Zach can wait and we can tunnel each other again.

Look here for Kaboose but to add to it

I have to unvote Mulch now. There's no way I can honestly say right now that my vote is more because of my scum read on them and more because of how they're treating me and how mad they've made me.

UNVOTE: Mulch

I'd just like to see everyone's opinion on our exchange. I can't use my opinion because it's literally formed out of hatred now.

I actually really like the first part of this post it feels genuine but the hard part of me to figure out is if it's caught scum who just get super pissed or this is town trying to read mulch he doesn't seem to be figuring out much so that's why it's a scum lean

I see how you got to LUV but I don't see the same things you did at all, like not remotely


As for kaboose do you think emotion is a valid tell?

[Zachstralkita]

You don't need charisma to start a wagon bro you need a case with a foundation lol


your 907-921 on Uzi was the most decent thing you've said about him this game...

[Zachstralkita]

LMFAO HE SAID YOU SOFT TOO

[Zachstralkita]

Aye yo Narna I'm bout to do you like Chess did Saga

[Zachstralkita]

Lol bet

[Zachstralkita]

He wants me vigged bro been hitting the cactus juice


Its like 4 possible ways he could have come to that conclusion without being scum though, so I have my own theories on that

[Zachstralkita]

#FreeWake man

[Zachstralkita]

First off Im not doing the shit where you have 19 posts on a page (12 in a row)



Are you going to condense your posts

[Zachstralkita]

k im demotivated

someone carry me

you can vote steel on my behalf

i have to win the gladiate without voting him

Are you meming

[Zachstralkita]

What your read on JJH slot?

[Zachstralkita]

I've been taking this shit in some of it gives me a fucking headache but I'm just waiting on Carcalilly full catch up and Wake catch up

[Zachstralkita]

if zach's mafia i've lost lol

It doesn't matter if I town my reads are wrong I still blow


Lackluster wagons are annoying why are you just chilling like this

[Zachstralkita]

I think it's pass Lily's bedtime so you'll be waiting a while

Tryna vote jjh when u see this ?

[Zachstralkita]

I'm undecided about your gimmick Trans


What do u read on Steel/Nos/JJH/LQ

[Zachstralkita]

I think it's pass Lily's bedtime so you'll be waiting a while

Tryna vote jjh when u see this ?

How many votes do you realistically think we can get?

Fuck you mean. We move to lynch scum whether are not people were inclined one way or another, if everyone wants to stagnate on their own reads it's going to be their problem



The main wagons are Creature Carca and Uzi? Yeah no one in this game can say shit to me at all

[Zachstralkita]

Oh my mistake Realeo is a wagon. Did the stars line up and show you he was scum cause I haven't seen anyone articulate decently how his posts do

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: JJH


Fucks sake

[Zachstralkita]

I think the initial premise that he could scum read Vedith off of NaI Vedith posting is bullshit to me. Whether it was just false confidence or scum confidence, just go to the first two pages. You cannot tell me anything Vedith did there was AI save for the no lynch vote and dare I say that's not AI for him... JJ was the one person I thought was pushing the Vedith wagon seriously

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone who claims to know Vediths play knows he plays lynch bait as town. Why then if you are going to do a premature push is it on Vedith of all people?

[Zachstralkita]

Also did I read that whole exchange wrong or did Creature and JJH talk about different definitions of shading for 3 hours

[Zachstralkita]

Oh wow this is actually scum!Vedith good job

RVS isn't pointless and Vedith is actually scum. I wasn't joking.

Your hunch is shit.

Vedith has a different tone to his bullshittery when he's scum to when he's town, and his very first post is of the scum!Vedith variety

Claiming to know Vedith this well is more disingenuous than just bad but whatever(I know him that well and I told JJ he wasn't making sense)

[Zachstralkita]

Like this guy used tone as an indicator for FUCKING VEDITH.

[Zachstralkita]

And he's on an ass wagon now so I feel pretty decent about this

[Zachstralkita]

Aye yo Narna I'm bout to do you like Chess did Saga

You're just booty tickled that I left Writers Bloque. Quit fence sitting and soft defending every wagon that isn't your shitty vanity one.

You're still here though

also what does that mean? The first 3 wagons are shit. I made two "vanity" wagons and and pushing my push

[Zachstralkita]

As of last page I'm not on Steel. Jjh is almost the size of the one you are on and probably has similar chances of going to L... so false





If I recall I was tring Realeo and Elena is the only one that's casing him? I'm trying to sort both of those two

[Zachstralkita]

If you're dissatisfied that's a communication issue or your problem, Narna. The wagons at this game start have been comparatively shit compared to my recent completd Day Ones... I'm dubious about something here and lack of input from certain people is just ehhhh




pedit yo he hasn't even been here I'm not going to make a new case off of things I already said... how is that particularly different from some of the pushes you guys have been making




You thinking Kaboose vote is better is lol, LQ. What confuses me about you is the transparency. If Kaboose is scum here do you not think that having seen your approach to him, he will now tailor his play accordingly when he returns? He hasn't been here so we can't really do anything about KaboosevMulch yesterday(which is like the biggest thing about that slot) without new info. I'm just wondering.


pedit Hmm..

[Zachstralkita]

I read jj as derptowning with that shade definition stuff, and I didn't see any reason Realeo is explicitly towny from you. However, upon seeing the jj vote now, I guess I can't legally call it a fence sit. I think you're wrong here bud.

Well the game has never been "guilty until proven innocent", it's the other way around. Am I lying

[Zachstralkita]

I could also do Realeo, but I feel like a wagon on him will be less effective than a wagon on Kaboose.

So do you think wagons on inactive produce more than wagons on active

You thinking Kaboose vote is better is lol, LQ. What confuses me about you is the transparency. If Kaboose is scum here do you not think that having seen your approach to him, he will now tailor his play accordingly when he returns? He hasn't been here so we can't really do anything about KaboosevMulch yesterday(which is like the biggest thing about that slot) without new info. I'm just wondering.

Yeah, I feel reading Kabooses reaction will be more reliable. I mean, he has to return at some point, right? That would kinda invalidate the whole "we can't do anything about Kaboose right now" argument.

the right now part is key word. I'm wholly expecting him to return

[Zachstralkita]

Lynch the slot before the catchup? WTF LOL

[Zachstralkita]

Y'all are super fucking wild I'ma take a breather

[Zachstralkita]

Lynch the slot before the catchup? WTF LOL

This is not a good post lol

I dont think in my life I've lynched a replacement before they've fully flowed into a game sorry




I flipped intelligent this game take it how you will, I've been pretty clear about how I feel so far

[Zachstralkita]

@LQ

pedit yo he hasn't even been here I'm not going to make a new case off of things I already said... how is that particularly different from some of the pushes you guys have been making

I'm kinda waiting on him just like you are waiting on Kaboose man, you act like my push is out of nowhere when just that we disagree on the reasoning

[Zachstralkita]

Given the context I disagree.

Is slightly over the top though. I mean this is a large, she's nowhere close to L-1.

Meh maybe I'm just being stupid but that defense is kinda weird

Chick is prob reckless town rn

Oh you two are confused


I place my vote on people I'd be ok with dead. If I use my vote for pressure I don't SAY thats what I'm doing it for.


Its my impression that when the fast wagon gets started you want the fast lynch, why's it unreasonable for me to assume you actually want to kill the slot I was town reading (Replaces are never AI.... and we have only partial content from Carca)

[Zachstralkita]

I could also do Realeo, but I feel like a wagon on him will be less effective than a wagon on Kaboose.

So do you think wagons on inactive produce more than wagons on active

Answer? Do you just feel this way for the specific two players

[Zachstralkita]

Transc U sr me cause I take issue with a push being started off something nai (not from you specifically if you scumread diamond)



But that's just dumb

[Zachstralkita]

Well iso mulch and kaboose and read their feud and tell me what you think

That's p much what started the game

Pedit i don't think i sr you anymore but why did you bring that up out of nowhere

Is 1 page out of nowhere? You're being unreasonable with me


Narna I scumread Diamond until she told me she was new then I said fuck naw that's classic derpy new town


Was in process of still sorting but then replace. Insufficient info from Carca rn

[Zachstralkita]

Why isn't it newb scum?

I was under the impression it would have been less newbie scum and just transparent tbh


Like if Carca catches up fully and then produces garbage then I will lynch there but implying I'm scummy cause I think the way a push or wagon began is shit is just lazy

[Zachstralkita]

I mean yeah I'm pretty sure I read some stupid shit directed at me that came out of Carcas post, but thats not at all cause for me to sr there

[Zachstralkita]

I react to everyone that speaks to me



Who said I was calling u scum LMAOOOO

[Zachstralkita]

I don't know why you reacted so strongly to that weak accusation when it was mostly a meme

Besides when have i ever scum read you as scum lol. I pocketed you both times.

I mean I more thought it was serious because to me if you guys are gonna join that wagon like that I wouldn't put it past you to sR me for something so simple

[Zachstralkita]

That catch-up was bad but again I mean, do scum post something that terrible given they have Day chat?

OK, this makes total sense. You are saying its AI as Town to have shitty posts.

No I'm saying either alignment can make shitty posts. What was the motivation behind Lily's content she's given? To appear like she has reads or is gamesolving? If so, I don't really get that vibe at all but I can understand because Fitz style catch-up posts are designed to do just that.

IDK who Lily is.

Carca(lilly) that is one part of the name of the person you're voting



Pedit.... Narna what do you mean by "waiting to vote you" here

[Zachstralkita]

GIF's Large is one of my favorite games ever.

I think Wake is a nurse now and he wasn't then, being a nurse is probably a shit ton of time and work with very little time left over so I honestly see why he got pissed at you for that

[Zachstralkita]

We are referring to NY 196.

[Zachstralkita]

It was fucking A50 lol mans said Varsoon



We literally coined the term "pulling a A50"

[Zachstralkita]

HE WAS SUPPOSED TO JAILKEEP ME

I DIED THAT NIGHT

LGSLGZLDLGZUDLGSLHXL HI FJCJ

The Zach LYLO town tells were not enough I'm sorry

[Zachstralkita]

And implosion and I both seemed to forget the JK situation lol

[Zachstralkita]

Does this mean never in my life again am I going to witness a 40 page Wake and Titus TVT?










What era is this

[Zachstralkita]

Things that made that game

- Zach making a reads list in microsoft paint (+1 hunna)
- 6 people fake claiming mason
- hangman (i solved the puzzle in one guess lol)
- me, you, boem, and kraska memeing the game

LOL ALL THE MASON CLAIMS WERE LYING. Varsoon and I CCd Titus and Dunn but we knew we were both full of shit

[Zachstralkita]

Does AGar play anymore? That dude was cool.

[Zachstralkita]

LMFAO WAKE WAS THE FAKE BOMB CLAIM. HE FLAMED DUNN SO HARD FOR VIGGING HIM


LOL Dunn actually kind of made me mad at some points in the game but it was hilarious the whole time

[Zachstralkita]

Me waiting for Carcas fucking catch up

I know we're posting a lot of shit here but that's not what anyone wants you to catch up on..

[Zachstralkita]

Lmaooo

Im so dumb in that game u gotta hmu when you peep

[Zachstralkita]

Before I get back on topic in relation to this game, I just have to... *twitches into flash backs from the old times*

Spoiler:

[Zachstralkita]

Carca please I'm sorry ignore our shit post because I had a tr on your slot but I can't tell whether you're just wasting our time or you're actually upset at these people scumreading you

but they are Sring you cause you havent really contributed anything to the rest of your catch up or posts..

[Zachstralkita]

Carca please I'm sorry ignore our shit post because I had a tr on your slot but I can't tell whether you're just wasting our time or you're actually upset at these people scumreading you

but they are Sring you cause you havent really contributed anything to the rest of your catch up or posts..

Wrong.

She's scumtold.

About 5 times in the past 15 minutes.

Those posts are garbage I agree but is she actually 12? Uzi talking bout the bed time, talking hella shit on the younger folk LMAOOOOOOOO Uzi you not safe in the streets

[Zachstralkita]

Age is just a number

If she's 12 or 112 and claims mafia, I'm going to lynch her.

Oh but fr you're hardly getting at the point. How people play mafia is based on who they r



I cant really blame you at this point though

[Zachstralkita]

Creature, Large 200 was multi-ball. Which means I actually had to scum hunt. Compare how I scum hunted there to here.

Oh fuck TALLLLK THAT SHITTTTTTTTT ! !

[Zachstralkita]

Jesus FUCK.

CREATURE SAYS THE CARCA WAGON CONSTRUCTION IS BAD

BUT TWO OF HIS CLAIMED TOWN READS ARE VOTING THERE.

THAT IS INCONSISTENT NONCOMMITTAL SCUM PLAY THERE. JESUS FUCK.

Yeah but he seem nonchalant as fuck about all of this llol

Carcalilly does not look to have a town focus here, and I wish not this wagon be distracted prematurely. I should want to see mulch comment on carcalilly for now, as he has played with her.

Yet lil uzi vert white knights her far too hard as well, methinks. Furthermore he is concerned very heavily with his own meta and responding to things said against him, moreso than scumhunting it appears.

They thought I was insane for SRing that guy lol

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend, if you place scum!Creature I know preflips are bad but do you place him with scum!Carca? Cause he's WKing that chill as fuck LOL

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi you deadass stayed on LQ?


... why.

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi you deadass stayed on LQ?


... why.

Don't really feel scum Lily.

I know he's still not here but you were with me on JJH and we were waiting for him then


What do you see scummy in LQ?

[Zachstralkita]

Elaborate on the misrep but - are you serious?


I pointed this out too but... LOL

That catch-up was bad but again I mean, do scum post something that terrible given they have Day chat?

OK, this makes total sense. You are saying its AI as Town to have shitty posts.

No I'm saying either alignment can make shitty posts. What was the motivation behind Lily's content she's given? To appear like she has reads or is gamesolving? If so, I don't really get that vibe at all but I can understand because Fitz style catch-up posts are designed to do just that.

IDK who Lily is.

[Zachstralkita]

Maybe I shouldn't have angered Transcend...

Interesting

[Zachstralkita]

Carcalily is not impressing me and Chickadee is a decent option inside that pool. Idk why you have Mulch/Kaboose/Vedith inside of there when those people haven't been talking

[Zachstralkita]

Elena gave me the impression she was trying to sort genuinely from her interactions, at least a little

[Zachstralkita]

Do you have any positions you can quantify Wake that'd be cool


All I know so far is someone you won't lynch...

[Zachstralkita]

Like you appear to be having a hard time with Transcend and I but we're not exactly orthodox are we

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith lurk is not what I expected at all. I forgot he was here for a little

[Zachstralkita]

Idk why you have Mulch/Kaboose/Vedith inside of there when those people haven't been talking

You actually said the reason why those people are there. Hint: It's on this quote.

I thought we wanted content out of KaboosevsMulch that's why we wanted them both here



I'm not starkly opposed to having Vedith on the list any more

[Zachstralkita]

Chickadee were you scumreading jjh before? Uzi and I tried to wagon there earlier...


@Carca I still don't know whether you are caught up on the game or not..? What are reads

[Zachstralkita]

Great, NAI reasons as I thought. Thanks for admitting that.

The acronym IDK in all caps comes off as angry and combative which is why I scum read it. Even if you still claim to not know who I was referring to after this, me mentioning how she caught up should've been a big giveaway for you.

This is a reach though... that's why I was like ? When you linked me to that post

[Zachstralkita]

Chickadee were you scumreading jjh before? Uzi and I tried to wagon there earlier...


@Carca I still don't know whether you are caught up on the game or not..? What are reads

Purposely avoided voting null

Transcend

Lil Uzi Vert

Steel
Creature

Zachstralkita
Chickadee

Nosferatu
Narna
Mulch
LicketyQuickety
jjh927
Kaboose
Realeo
Wake88
Elena Fisher

Vedith

What the fuck is this

[Zachstralkita]

Through what... methodology..... is... that..

[Zachstralkita]

Uzi bro come back to JJ let's get his Buzz Lightyear lookin ass

[Zachstralkita]

You may be scum slot but I can't form a progression or sort if you don't post and you haven't been posting so I'd like a wagon in effect



The wagons are still nearly the same, people I want posting aren't posting, and Sweet Prince Transcend has left us for how long I do not know


Transcript made me re read creature but I still have my own reservations on that, I want to see those two interact

[Zachstralkita]

Nah u were gone when I semi cased you back in 1840 (the year)



Uzi shares some of the same sentiment for scumreading you, LQ thinks it is not AI which has a little merit cause you haven't been giving new content until






now

[Zachstralkita]

Chickadee were you scumreading jjh before? Uzi and I tried to wagon there earlier...


@Carca I still don't know whether you are caught up on the game or not..? What are reads

Purposely avoided voting null

Transcend

Lil Uzi Vert

Steel
Creature

Zachstralkita
Chickadee

Nosferatu
Narna
Mulch
LicketyQuickety
jjh927
Kaboose
Realeo
Wake88
Elena Fisher

Vedith

What the fuck is this

What you asked for

So these are your reads caught up on the game? Insight into scumreads...

[Zachstralkita]

Apparently your scum with those 3 lol

Oh, I see. So now your case is about insulting my intelligence. How about this: If I am unintelligent, then I must be making bad posts. Why are my bad posts AI?

What the fuck are you talking about?

I'm poking fun at Lily's read list by jokingly explaining what it means to Zach.

IDK who Lily is

[Zachstralkita]

The best meme is actually the fuckin capital letters being 'COMBATIVE' lmao




Words are weapons... for real

Don't think JJ will happen today. People want Lily.

At this point, unless Kaboose comes back, she will be the lynch sadly.

Does it seem like people just sat around today

[Zachstralkita]

And why is Chickadee a bad idea?







How sway

[Zachstralkita]

Apparently your scum with those 3 lol

Oh, I see. So now your case is about insulting my intelligence. How about this: If I am unintelligent, then I must be making bad posts. Why are my bad posts AI?

What the fuck are you talking about?

I'm poking fun at Lily's read list by jokingly explaining what it means to Zach.

IDK who Lily is

Best meme lol

What did I piss you off about?

Also:

Lmaooo

Yes, you are petty because you choose to try and include yourself with social interaction that has nothing to do with you at all in an attempt to be liked.

You two can chill you don't need to be doing that lol


Also I was clearly making a meme with the idk


You have to admit it's kind of funny

[Zachstralkita]

I felt that the people's case at Carc is as unpersuasive as Mulch's case at Kaboose but the fact Carc's case gets double the vote from Mulch's case suggest that mafia is prolly hoping into the wagon and Mulch is town (for making scum not comfortable to jump to his case or casing against scum!Kaboose hence why it doesn't get traction)

I disagree with the reason, mostly agree with the conclusion, and deem this towny

Is this a politically correct way to say

I disagree with everything Realeo say but him townreading me and I townread him for being an obedient slave?

I needa catch up on a page or two but I think I'm just going to stare at this for a while

[Zachstralkita]

I think out of Carc's wagon, Narna is the scummiest.

Spoiler: So Narna is pissed of out of Carc incomprehensible read list?

1317 also bad

Don't forget the fence sit in #1304

Would you rather me not be honest?

S c U m C l A i M

#catchup post

i'm on my computer for once so heck yeah im gonna make it pretty

31

+LicketyQuickety

I agree, cool game movement attempt and some setup spec is always great.
36

+jjh927

This sounds really legit, and from prior experience I can agree.
38

-Transcend

This is another level of too early.

~Decent TR on jjh rn, small SR on Vedith

53

-Zachstralkita

Early game reaches are the best.
64

+LicketyQuickety

All the good opinions
70

?Kaboose

I disagree with the statement, but I like how their first post is to contribute to the current discussion.
79

-Lil Uzi Vert

Feels awkward and forced to me. Like scum. Also counting on Real a bit.
82

-Transcend

Nahhhhhh boiiii

~Strong TR on Lickety, SR on Trans

102

-Steel

Baaa! Baa!

?Mulch

is starting to rub me the wrong thing but I'm pretty sure its just a Mulch thing.
150

?+Mu

lch

This feels like Town!Mulch but in its raw form it's kinda scummy,,, but I know how that feels

Mulch do you take recreational drugs

169

-Zachstralkita

Could you do more than copying and pasting "this is bad" plz?

~Starting to TR Mulch, slight SR on Zach

Transcend, wherefore dost thou believe lil uzi vert be pious and not heretical?

I beseech thee, an thee consider this crusade ill founded. Speak thy true suspicion as thou hast mentioned to be most severe, yet hid.

Stop. It's driving me batshit

206

-Lil Uzi Vert

plz...
209

+Kaboose

Nice work. This looks like a town that wants to win.

mulch do you use baby powder or baking soda when you make your crack for personal consumption

im actually dying
like
help

231

?Transcend

wHY

~Page 11: My Mulch TR goes up, Lickety going down a little, Trans shifting towards null

This entire catch-up trying to talk in the past is scummy as fuck too. I would know, I do it as scum

There's an entire new page of posts every time I post something. Wtf else am I supposed to do?

;;;;_______;;;;;

~Ok, I'm tired from doing post by post anyway

~Page14: I feel like Mulch and Kaboose are both town doing the fighty fights.
~Page15: Nosferatu is lookin' weird, Trans now a dead null
398

+Lil Uzi Vert

I kinda like this vote
~Elena giving me them town vibes

~Page18:

um.

~And Creature doesn't look too bad to me

IM SPLITTING MY CATCHUP IN HALF BECAUSE THIS IS TOO MUCH HOLD ON

How the fuck am I supposed to read this, and why are people colored red

and

green?

Spoiler: So he Carc Narna to move the game?

Multch v Caboose was TvT

What's the Realeo case

I'm voting him bc scummy

But is there something more meaty that will glue my vote to him?

Pedit: same

He scummy, lemme see if I can pull something outta my ass.

I got nothing, but you sees it right? Elena's posts on him are ok, but vibes are king d1. VOTE: Carc let's get the day movin'.

Spoiler: But at the next breath he is at scum!Carc?

I guess if we lynch inside that Carc wagon, we're likely gonna hit scum.

Or we could lynch Carc

What is exactly Narna's case at Card that makes him so confident at scum!Carc? I don't like Mulch case at Kaboose but at least I can still relate to that, but Narna doesn't even pretend to have a case.

Narna push is disgusting. I'm getting at all of you in a second

[Zachstralkita]

Spoiler:

Ewww... AND Steel hopped on.


VOTE: Realeo

Your case seems like it just came from thin air. What you're missing about Narna's approach to Carcalilly and your whole approach to that fucking wagon is that:



- Some people scum read her predecessor(this factors in for a different reason)

- Carca's replace-in was actually objectively shitty...

(This is from a person that townread Sunlit Diamond. So when the replace happened I actually had to put in effort to sort and Carcalilly has produced reads at this point that would be more useful as like... fucking stock market prices than a reads list AFAIC)


What you do here is like misrep the whole ... perception of the wagon

@Everone at Carc's wagon:

Why am I not scummier than Carc? Like, if the case is "there is something wrong about Carc," then isn't I'm definitely worse than Carc?

What the fuck is this? It reads like you skimmed when all that stuff happened because the scenario you're outlining is not the same as what happened.. this is WAY too vague.. Carca's posting was pinging a few people and it was even worse because some of them thought her predecessor was obv scum, whereas some of them didn't.

What the fuck is 1626

Because I feel cases at Carc's is over blown to the point "Why I'm not the leading wagon now?"

It's like the only reason why Carc's wagon picked up is because more people town read me compared to Carc so Carc is easier to be mislynched, especially that there is day chat in this game where mafia can coordinate.

Um... what?

Pretty sure our 3 main wagons have been Creature, Realeo, and... SD/Carca


The reason why one of these wagons picked up is because the person in question started pinging people, not because anyone was specifically gauging mislynches IMO. This is inherently dishonest. First of all, the way Carca replaced in wasn't helpful. I know we were shitposting but she like did half a catch up and I still dont know if Im waiting on the other half? Plus her posts were very sporadic and shit, and some of her offhanded comments were scummy. She didn't offer analysis. I don't know if Carca is an analysis type of player. I thought of that slot as a possible derp town ML so I wanted to like SORT sort it but what Carca's given me so far is like... minimal information. I just finished a game with her but I'll talk about that later

There's not much of a case on you at all either Realeo.

You're acting like there is a legitimate case towards Carc.

Largest problem here is you're pretending like this was a "case" type wagon. It's not. It was a spur of the moment type wagon which built momentum and how said player reacted to that wagon entirely dictated how people read her.

I felt that the people's case at Carc is as unpersuasive as Mulch's case at Kaboose but the fact Carc's case gets double the vote from Mulch's case suggest that mafia is prolly hoping into the wagon and Mulch is town (for making scum not comfortable to jump to his case or casing against scum!Kaboose hence why it doesn't get traction)

Um... Mulch and Kaboose is an entirely different ballpark compared to this shit. They had a fucking yell fest, for one. That might be a TINY fucking part of the variable.



What? This is like comparing apples to TNT


Sorry, I think that Realeo is full of shit. Before the Narna push he "sorts" Carcalilly by questioning and answering in a way that doesn't really mean anything nor was relevant to the original reasons why people were scumreading her... literally produces nothing.

VOTE: Narna

I'm bored. Creature's wagon is not picking up. Trying new one.

So you're bored and your first step is to go to the Carca wagon and pick the player who is scummiest


The point is, regardless of Carca's alignment I still think you're scum because you fake sorted her and wrote it off as a lynch that was happening for "no reason".

Then you stretch a push on Narna with a complete misrep of the entire Carca wagon. Yeah, fuck out of here, lynch that. I think Steel looks worse for that vote but I want him to comment on the situation.

Jesus fuck. Uzi. What are you doing over there.

[Zachstralkita]

Does the vote count in a spoiler? Shit.


VOTE: Realeo


Case is above

[Zachstralkita]

I'd like responses from Transc, LQ, Uzi,......... Steel


Sorry but if we can start wagons on the strength of "tonally off", capital letters, and "Lily" then you're not just going to walk past Realeo operating off of a fictional narrative.

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach

Do you agree that Carc does not deserve 6 votes?

this is on a different train of thought completely





You pushed Narna for circumstances surrounding the Carca wagon that were..... not how that wagon played out at all. It is literally evidenced all throughout that "case" you have.

I'd like responses from Transc, LQ, Uzi,......... Steel


Sorry but if we can start wagons on the strength of "tonally off", capital letters, and "Lily" then you're not just going to walk past Realeo operating off of a fictional narrative.

Why do you want to hear my opinion on the matter?

You said to his face:

I read your case. Your first two points are good,

So I need to evaluate your sanity is all. Cause you and I read the same case.

[Zachstralkita]

@Luv let me explain in a little that has naught to do with the point


Nos.... there's literally cases with memes incorporated here man. I feel like I'm possessed by a demon

[Zachstralkita]

Most people seem to come around to Lily's slot and I think it's fair for one to look at the peak of the wagon and see who had scummiest hop.

So your issue with Realeo is that misrepresented how the wagon formed Zach?

But more importantly, if I misrepresented how the wagon formed

but I still get the core content right

(judged by the fact you didn't say no to my question), why am I scummy? This is the logical link that I missed.

To use an analogy, if I'm Bill O Reiley, you only proved that I'm sexist (wrong), but proofing why I'm sexist doesn't proof me why I'm harassing female (morally evil)

At this point, I felt that the entire issue Zach has is with my word choice?

Yeah this is what I think it is at this point.

Like I read the case and was just left saying "Huh?" over and over again.

Absolutely not


He lied about the entire way the Carca wagon happened? I can't make this any more clear

he implied it was for reasons that it wasnt, implied carca was voted because she could be more easily mislynched, said the reason for scum!Carca was "she feels off", and pushes Narna with this magical fuckery


What do I gotta do here to make this clear?

[Zachstralkita]

Oh no. Narna is not scum becuase of gif. I literally have laid out why I scumread Narna, LQ.

lets not mince words your case is garbo fam

Can you maybe get a post in here with like words inside

[Zachstralkita]

LQ the reason why what you just said doesn't make sense to me is


Realeo case is like if a murder witness is giving info to police on a murder but he starts talking about like the fucking battle of Normandy

[Zachstralkita]

Okay I'll specify in the morning

[Zachstralkita]

nah that's not facts I said some people scumread Diamond I never mentioned Narna's name explicitly with that I just used him in that vicinity

[Zachstralkita]

Oh yeah ofc I just haven't articulated myself well which I said I will do tomorrow

[Zachstralkita]

Oh yeah ofc I just haven't articulated myself well which I said I will do tomorrow

So one of the things I didn't say earlier is that Realeo pushing Narna off the strength of that case is scum-motivated. Will go more in depth today

[Zachstralkita]

AND ITS THIS NARNA BW

Before I elaborate more can you please comment on my case on Realeo starting the Narna bandwagon? I feel like I'm getting treated like it's delusional

[Zachstralkita]

man

[Zachstralkita]

I thought you were srs, you demoralized me this game from your pattern of pushes


and you pop in here seeing what I see about the narna BW being shit but I have a whole case about that which generally did not receive good reception


and you vote me

[Zachstralkita]

Spoiler:

Ewww... AND Steel hopped on.


VOTE: Realeo

Your case seems like it just came from thin air. What you're missing about Narna's approach to Carcalilly and your whole approach to that fucking wagon is that:



- Some people scum read her predecessor(this factors in for a different reason)

- Carca's replace-in was actually objectively shitty...

(This is from a person that townread Sunlit Diamond. So when the replace happened I actually had to put in effort to sort and Carcalilly has produced reads at this point that would be more useful as like... fucking stock market prices than a reads list AFAIC)


What you do here is like misrep the whole ... perception of the wagon

@Everone at Carc's wagon:

Why am I not scummier than Carc? Like, if the case is "there is something wrong about Carc," then isn't I'm definitely worse than Carc?

What the fuck is this? It reads like you skimmed when all that stuff happened because the scenario you're outlining is not the same as what happened.. this is WAY too vague.. Carca's posting was pinging a few people and it was even worse because some of them thought her predecessor was obv scum, whereas some of them didn't.

What the fuck is 1626

Because I feel cases at Carc's is over blown to the point "Why I'm not the leading wagon now?"

It's like the only reason why Carc's wagon picked up is because more people town read me compared to Carc so Carc is easier to be mislynched, especially that there is day chat in this game where mafia can coordinate.

Um... what?

Pretty sure our 3 main wagons have been Creature, Realeo, and... SD/Carca


The reason why one of these wagons picked up is because the person in question started pinging people, not because anyone was specifically gauging mislynches IMO. This is inherently dishonest. First of all, the way Carca replaced in wasn't helpful. I know we were shitposting but she like did half a catch up and I still dont know if Im waiting on the other half? Plus her posts were very sporadic and shit, and some of her offhanded comments were scummy. She didn't offer analysis. I don't know if Carca is an analysis type of player. I thought of that slot as a possible derp town ML so I wanted to like SORT sort it but what Carca's given me so far is like... minimal information. I just finished a game with her but I'll talk about that later

There's not much of a case on you at all either Realeo.

You're acting like there is a legitimate case towards Carc.

Largest problem here is you're pretending like this was a "case" type wagon. It's not. It was a spur of the moment type wagon which built momentum and how said player reacted to that wagon entirely dictated how people read her.

I felt that the people's case at Carc is as unpersuasive as Mulch's case at Kaboose but the fact Carc's case gets double the vote from Mulch's case suggest that mafia is prolly hoping into the wagon and Mulch is town (for making scum not comfortable to jump to his case or casing against scum!Kaboose hence why it doesn't get traction)

Um... Mulch and Kaboose is an entirely different ballpark compared to this shit. They had a fucking yell fest, for one. That might be a TINY fucking part of the variable.



What? This is like comparing apples to TNT


Sorry, I think that Realeo is full of shit. Before the Narna push he "sorts" Carcalilly by questioning and answering in a way that doesn't really mean anything nor was relevant to the original reasons why people were scumreading her... literally produces nothing.

VOTE: Narna

I'm bored. Creature's wagon is not picking up. Trying new one.

So you're bored and your first step is to go to the Carca wagon and pick the player who is scummiest


The point is, regardless of Carca's alignment I still think you're scum because you fake sorted her and wrote it off as a lynch that was happening for "no reason".

Then you stretch a push on Narna with a complete misrep of the entire Carca wagon. Yeah, fuck out of here, lynch that. I think Steel looks worse for that vote but I want him to comment on the situation.

.

^^^


Also Realeo's exact words were that he was bored so he went to start a new wagon. So he tries to scumhunt in Narna, the person on Clilly wagon who has the least posts(?) and happens to coincidentally be the scummiest



That's not what you want to do when you generate info, it is what you do when you want to pretend



Come on guys

[Zachstralkita]

Carca was never getting voted because she was scummier than Realeo, she was getting scumread cause her posts were pinging people entirely independent of the Realeo wagon. There is a distinct difference here, he is acting like he saw both himself and Carca as mislynches being actively pushed. This is a... lie? Why are there similar inconsistencies in the rest of his case?


It is not me misunderstanding Realeo, it is him portraying false events to back the stance




You guys are on FUCKING NARNA

[Zachstralkita]

Steel was just like "well I thought I knew what I was doing but now it is revealed that I may not " plus his push on Nos has always been ass.

Who the fuck places this guy hard town? I literally just want to know on what besides his tone and his appearance of being transparent do you credit him with this

[Zachstralkita]

I mean sure, but he also like pops out with the push on Narna like he wasn't expecting him to come back lol because the case does not hold up to scrutiny sorry

[Zachstralkita]

I see Uzis perspective but it is holding increasingly less weight to me because even if my case is somehow void does that quantify you hopping on the Narna wagon and solidly thinking that's the best place for your vote right now off of the strength of what Realeo said about him?




I just don't think so at all

[Zachstralkita]

Ok I have a confession to the general public can I take a moment

[Zachstralkita]

Ok I have a confession to the general public can I take a moment

I... don't think the really shitty way Carca posts is entirely AI. We just stomped her into the ground no questions asked when she was scum last game, I read her so easy



But I'm getting different vibes here. I really just peeped and when we were bitching at her to post content and finish the catch up today, she's basically like "uhh what do you want me to do?" "Ummm I can't post rn" *posts something tangentially unrelated, gets scumread more*. That's such derpy fucking play. It reads so innocuous

I feel like there would be an active attempt at defense here.. . She just gives off the air of being innocent



Because by all rights she should be dead right now for that fucking posting, and the fact that she doesn't appear worried is pretty telling to me. When we got her as scum last game she genuinely panicked and was just saying dumb shit I'm not getting the same exact vibes here at all. Like I'm sorry but that reads list is not one that scum fakes. It literally looks like names in hat to me but I read some of Carca's posts and realize she probably just analyzes behind the scenes and only presents a small part of whatever she drew. I don't think is entirely made up




Meaning that fucking wagon is lazy and if you're on it at all you should feel bad personally please help us discuss like the cases some people are pushing. I saw like 0 people ever comment on Uzi vs LQ like townies are talking about who we want to lynch and who we don't and NOTHING ELSE and are surprised we fucking stagnate.The way wagons and pushes this game have played out is so shifty to me this game

I see Uzis perspective but it is holding increasingly less weight to me because even if my case is somehow void does that quantify you hopping on the Narna wagon and solidly thinking that's the best place for your vote right now off of the strength of what Realeo said about him?




I just don't think so at all

People won't vote Elena, LQ, or JJ.

Um why do you scumread Elena

Jjh hasn't posted like I wanted him to but he is aware that I wanted him to be posting


Why do you town read Steel

[Zachstralkita]

I didn't like her interactions with you or her comments about Chi's stance on Kab vs. Mulch.

I don't town read Steel, he's just also like those names, never getting wagoned sadly.

I mean Nos is actually talking with his words now so a Steel wagon isn't that grim anymore

[Zachstralkita]

i woulda been hella pissed if i were scum!lily this game and i was just getting wafflestomped down the lynch drain again and i dont see any anticipation of that here which is a reason i kinda think shes town

this is a bad post btw

No dude she scummed so hard in the game we're talking about loool hes totally right

[Zachstralkita]

zach what's your creature read because i fell asleep angered trying to sort that guy

I see what you were getting at yeah, it's scummy behavior tbh

I don't like his lack of descriptiveness though, and how you can't get the guy to like explain stuff but he's just there. I don't know if this is fixing my read a certain way though


He seems really carefree


Although this might be because we're not pressuring shit because "WE DONT THINK THE WAGONS CAN HAPPEN" ?