Large Normal 205: Sibling's Love and Quarrel [Endgame]

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VOTE: Vedith

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Oh wow this is actually scum!Vedith good job

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RVS isn't pointless and Vedith is actually scum. I wasn't joking.

Your hunch is shit.

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Vedith has a different tone to his bullshittery when he's scum to when he's town, and his very first post is of the scum!Vedith variety

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Oh, my bad, actually meant the second

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Case them and I will

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Yup, just the one sentence.

It set off my subconscious alarm bells and then I agreed with them. He escalated in a jokey manner. It's scum!Vedith.

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Nah Vedith, the only scum I've figured out is you

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You're acting like votes aren't content

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Nope, I mean he reacted to being voted and you're saying he wasn't reacting to anything

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I agree with the premise but disagree with the implication

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I mean, I wasn't expecting people to disagree with me but I am seriously scumreading him.

Other people will come around later

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Oh, I double negatived

I mean, I wasn't expecting people to agree with me but I am seriously scumreading him.

Other people will come around later

EBWOP

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I count 1. Hi Alisae

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I thought we were really getting somewhere until it all went quiet

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It's a glorious gimmick. I'm tempted to reply in middle english like a peasant

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This whole time I was assuming the no lynch thing was a trap to catch the first person who was seriously considering no lynching, which would be Kaboose

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Oh, ftr I was kinda doing the whole thing where we get out of lylo.

I don't think I can catch scum from 1 post.

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Not lylo rvs

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BTW:

the fact that an rvs wagon is the highest wagon with 15 pages worth of shit probably says something that there's resistance from scum on one of the larger wagons

Going to say no, on the basis that there's so many vanity votes that they're not all scum. Wagons just aren't happening.

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Because that's the goal of RVS

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VOTE: Kaboose

looks good to me

PEdit: Yeah but you find better stuff immediately following RVS

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VOTE: Creature

This is probably a good time to shift vote. I don't believe I've played with Creature before but I am vaguely familiar with him

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^ Opportunistic

Okay, but I'd prefer it if you said why that was relevant

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Creature started posting and I didn't like said posts.

I'm looking for a serious wagon and this is going to be one

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Nah I was saying I am actually familiar with you, though you aren't with me

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Look through his iso. He basically just gradually escalates shading on LUV to scumreading LUV. I don't think it's genuine.

While he does it at one point he goes for a random attack on you, Transcend. Not sure if he's decided whether he can scumread you yet

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Oh do you not scumread LUV then

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That's not how I'd define shading

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It's more like not committing to a scumread, but implying that someone is scum. And in this case, you hop around it to test the waters then go for it, and now you're backing out of it because it's not really working for you

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No

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But I'm pretty sure you knew that

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This is a really convenient misunderstanding for your argument

PEdit: My meta is not rolling scum

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I could link an offsite game which is my only ever scumgame, but it was neighbourhood centred and I played a lurk-heavy game on the main thread while hard-pocketing my neighbours. You won't see me playing any alignment like that again

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So now you do scumread LUV after all and admit that you did before?

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Btw, LUV, there's something wrong about you.

I guess you're scum and you're just inflating your post count.

Post 488 doesn't look like a scumread?

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I don't know ask you

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Oh okay, I guess your grasp of the situation completely derails all that progress then

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You want to explain how, assuming your perspective isn't manufactured shite, that doesn't still look bad for creature from it?

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Oh do you not scumread LUV then

Shading: Bringing out the possibility someone is scum without actually scumreading them.
Scumreading: Saying you see someone as scum rather than town.

That's not how I'd define shading

Damn, jj you are bad. You are bad because based on Creatures definition, that is exactly what he has done.

That would have looked bad for Creature IMO, but you ruined it with this post.

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You also seem more preoccupied about discrediting me as a player than determining my alignment

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You discrediting me is pretty damn obvious, and you're calling me bad repeatedly rather than town or scum. The two aren't mutually exclusive but it's clear which one you're focusing on. And no, I scumread you rn and I'm highlighting reasons why, besides the obvious one on the way you jumped in that further validates my Creature scumread.

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You discrediting me is pretty damn obvious, and you're calling me bad repeatedly rather than town or scum. The two aren't mutually exclusive but it's clear which one you're focusing on. And no, I scumread you rn and I'm highlighting reasons why, besides the obvious one on the way you jumped in that further validates my Creature scumread.

So instead of answering my questions, you make a knee jerk read that I am Scum. Am I understanding that correctly?

Those were the answers to your questions

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So wait, I should have just accepted Creature's definition which I believed to be wrong? And me not doing that is alignment indicative?

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I get that the definitions are highly similar but he was trying to imply by his definition that he wasn't scummy for it

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LicketyQuickety

Why my definition makes me look scummy?

Tbh I'm actually interested in this answer because if you accept Creature's definition then shading is not inherently scummy

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Admittedly that's probably a good take

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I've been meaning to actually put effort into this game but I haven't and now I'm really behind

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Legitimately can't even remember shit about my reads any more.

UNVOTE:

Zach, why do you want to lynch me? This should help me read you

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Do you mean to say you actually just don't have a read on me?

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Okay that's not as terrible as I thought it was

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@Everone at Carc's wagon:

Why am I not scummier than Carc? Like, if the case is "there is something wrong about Carc," then isn't I'm definitely worse than Carc?

Swing and lamiss

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@Everone at Carc's wagon:

Why am I not scummier than Carc? Like, if the case is "there is something wrong about Carc," then isn't I'm definitely worse than Carc?

Swing and lamiss

And I'm not like that? Have you saw my vote at Creature?

It was a joke. I think you might be town. Same for Carca, but I have more substantial reasons for Carca. What do the wagons look like

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Mulch, I'm a guy lol

Yeah, I'm pretty notorious actually for misdoing genders

Not a good thing to be notorious for

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I think Realeo was trying to defend you but didn't think of saying the reasons he townreads you

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jjhnumbers, where are you?

I was playing tabletop wargames then helping my dad replace a fence panel for my grandma. Do you need me for something because I'm even less caught up than I was and I want to sleep because I didn't get much last night

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Would anyone be down for a Vedith wagon btw?

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Is that ever a serious claim from Vedith

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If people buy it I'll back off but I felt like going full circle. Who's Mulch currently tunneling

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Nope

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I'd say it's in pretty okay faith though because I'm at least gonna iso someone before I vote them

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That was implicit, also going to sleep soon unless anyone has any better ideas

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jjh927's Premium Unofficial Vote Count

• Realeo
  ---------- 5 ( Zachstralkita, Transcend, Narna, Nosferatu, Creature, )
  L- 4
  
  
  Narna
  ----------- 2 ( Realeo, Mulch )
  L- 7
  
  
  Nosferatu
  ------- 2 ( Kaboose, Steel )
  L- 7
  
  
  Kaboose
  --------- 2 ( Vedith, Lil Uzi Vert )
  L- 7
  
  
  Vedith
  ---------- 2 ( Carcalilly, LicketyQuickety )
  L- 7
  
  
  Steel
  ----------- 1 ( Chickadee )
  L- 8
  
  
  LicketyQuickety
  - 1 ( Elena Fisher )
  L- 8
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ------ 2 ( Wake88, jjh927, )

PEdit: Your unofficial votecount is wrong. Mine is right. I knew I spent that time for something

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LQ, you stealing Transcend's avatar is confusing and this is the third time it has confused me

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I was about to produce an evil version of Transcend's avatar but I don't think you'd consider that useful

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Wasn't there some resistance to me voting before I'd properly caught up?

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Switch your avatar to this so I know the difference between you and good Transcend, LQ

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Switch your avatar to this so I know the difference between you and good Transcend, LQ

There must be a solution to the problem. I know! Go by our usernames instead of avatar.

You can read a game a lot faster when you know who is talking by your peripheral vision without actually having to read the names that aren't right next to the words they are speaking

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Wake88, jjh927

These players better vote someone soon or I'm going to consider getting them today.

jjh927 posting occasionally but not voting (not even having scumreads) is so bad.

I have some scumreads but I didn't think people wanted me voting without catching up? Admittedly I'm nowhere near as confident as normal because I'm kinda struggling with this game. Tbh I doubt I'm catching up before the next day because I'm now doing the work thing.

I like Kraska's entrance because I dislike evil Transcend (good Transcend is town) but I'm completely offput by the people who've been on different wagons at different times and therefore don't like certain wagons. I should probably join this wagon.

VOTE: LQ

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Don't majority, want to see reactions

lmao I'm pretty sure you're supposed to try to wagon without the guilty, then reveal the guilty. You can also not reveal it at the start of the day to see what people do at the start of the day.

I'll vote Transcend if you say you've got a guilty on him again but you don't seem to want people voting him

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I'm not V/LA, I'm just somewhat disinvolved with this game tbh. I thought I liked games with lots of posts but I think I actually like games I'm heavily involved in and don't really know how to get into this one

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Could someone give me a good load of people to iso

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Why don't you replace out?

Because I don't like the idea of just ditching slots when you feel like it and intend to play out any games I ever join. I'm not massively more busy than I have been before, though admittedly I'm more distracted

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As in, the people I think I should be isoing? In addition to the ones that Vedith gave or what?

I'm going to bed soon but I'm getting something to do for tomorrow when I plan to make a serious effort to actually get involved in the game.

I feel like I should probably iso Kraska and Elena. Kaboose might also be a good shout. I want to check Steel because I like Steel and I remember TRing him but I also remember people not liking him for some reason from my skimreading so I need to figure out what's going on there. That's 4 names but eh I'm not gonna make one up

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Or just don't ISO shit and start your reads from here.

I tried a similar concept and that failed immensely. In my headspace there are too many people and not enough questions

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What happened with the whole Mulch guilty thing btw

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What happened with the whole Mulch guilty thing btw

How much have you read

Not enough

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What happened with the whole Mulch guilty thing btw

How much have you read

Not enough

Seriously, how much have you read?

I can't total it up. I kept up at the start and then I fell behind and then I skimread and jumped around all over the place and now it's totally out of hand

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That's not productive. Also I'm awake now

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I got prodded and this along with the almost hammer is a wakeup call. I'm gonna finish isoing the 9 people I have on my list and I'm gonna say what I think about those people. Then I'm gonna talk to people about that shit and then maybe I'll iso some more people. If I still get lynched I can't really blame anyone else because this game has been shit tier for me

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It's already night for me, but this is the game I'm gonna be focusing on for the next hour, maybe two if people engage me

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Oh and I seriously apologise for how I said I was gonna make that serious effort to get into this game and then didn't. I've been playing a lot of fortnite.

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Jj I'm gonna bus you sorry

Can I join in on the hydraslip scumslip memes

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Oh I'm a VT

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I can't exactly total it up because there's been a lot of skimreading and a lot of "Okay, I'm gonna catch up from the last point I had bookmarked", reading a few pages, then getting distracted

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I wouldn't feel right doing that until I'm done isoing people, especially after LQ

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I'm not flaking, not this time. And if I do just lynch me

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Like, let's be clear about this- after my earlygame and the VT claim it's almost implausible that I get nightkilled, so if you don't lynch me at some point I'll be riding this game out to the end, and everyone else is gonna have to agree to trust me on that or outright lynch me. And there are objectively worse lynches because I'm not a PR, and I can't tell you where the better lynches are at yet so give me time

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I'm not flaking I'm reading isos

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Ftr Zach is town, Mulch is town, Creature is town, Trans is town and LUV could be scum

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Is there a place I can actually buy those

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I've read those 5 and I'm reading Kraska's rn

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I think Kraska's town, and Elena is probably town by play (though I'd kinda want to talk to her in real time) but mason claim kinda seals it.

Kaboose and steel are last on my list

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Kaboose is town and Steel is very very town. I'm gonna go over Mulch again because I had a thought

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That's why I'm resorting you, Mulch

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Like, I'm working on dissecting all your pushes on all the people ever.


Transcend, I asked for some people to iso ages back, then got a 5 people, then got asked who I wanted to iso and gave 4 more. I just copypasted both lists into notepad and started isoing

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Where's Mulch's meta at

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I was legitimately about to vote Transcend for zero rational reason and just an overcoming gut read until I realized it was LQ posting as transcend

LQ is giving me guttown vibes

I know this was fucking ages ago but can this be explained? It's a tad contradictory.

It's the only glaring thing that wouldn't be here as an example of your posting habits over the whole game. For example, there's a lot of "mindmelds" being thrown around and I can see potential scum motivation behind some of your posts (such as the mindmeld ones), but then some of your posts just reek of town and I can't see them being fabricated.

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My answer to what?

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Okay Mulch, so first up I grabbed a scumgame and towngame of yours and jumbled them around so I didn't know which was which, and then I read it and I thought your towngame was scum.

The other reason I wanted some meta was to see whether you fake that level of towniness in certain posts in your scumgame, and I don't think you quite do. This could be confirmation bias. I don't like meta reads and tend to use them as extra tonal info anyway, but I reckon you're town.

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I've had fucktons of time to look at this thread I've just been putting it off

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That's why I'm on VLA. Also it's 5:30am

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That's why I'm not on VLA. Also it's 5:30am

EBWOP

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Actually I think society is a time-orientated construct which is why I have nothing better to do at 5:30 am

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Kaboose, why do you think I would fake reading two of Mulch's games like that?

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Like, if I was gonna fake that I'd say I could actually read him