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Post Post #906 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:55 pm

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Made it to page 14. Will finish it later. Must play smash now.

I will tell you that in my reread, my vote will be on Panzer.
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Post Post #907 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:56 pm

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Post Post #911 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:22 pm

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Everyone can feel free to use the palindrome as much as they want.

You can also mix it up as well.

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Post Post #925 (isolation #3) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:09 am

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TS, so far it looks to me like Quag is logical town. If you can give me a decent reason that does not involve

A.Extreme Excitement
B.A conspiracy theory
C.A defense over an irrational MoS

Then I might listen. Maybe.
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Post Post #943 (isolation #4) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:53 am

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Page 1 nothing of signifigance
Page 2 not much of signifigance. I agree with Yos2 this page.
page 3
Yos wrote:In fact, I'd say the thing most worth voting for on page one is
vote:neo-viper

I don't like Panzer's reason for voting, but the way viper followed him there was even worse. That kind of following vote, onto a bandwagon of someone like Battle Mage who many people consider an "easy lynch", for no good reason like that looks like a scum tell to me.
Dunno if I'd actually agree with this. BM lynches are always fun and the right play.
BM wrote:I'm ashamed to say that Panzer is onto something here. So instead, i'll claim that it was my idea.

Unvote, Vote: Peers

Also, Yos, just because you are making a whole lot of sense, it doesnt mean i'm not keeping an eye on you.
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I dislike this. It's looks ALMOST like a subtle attempt to say "Lawl, you don't HAVE to listen to yos2, but I agree with yos2"

Page 4

Neo asks a legitimate question. TS says that he panicked.... I don't see it = |

Slight FoS:TS

BM wrote:Corsican Syndicate? yeh, i recall posting alot at the start of that, but i've completely lost track of it atm. Please do tell me what about my play in Mafia 71 provokes a reaction along the lines of "Fuck off BM".

TS's over-aggressiveness is noted.

My vote stands though.
Wishy wishy washy washy.

FoS:BM

Panzer wrote:FoS:Mert and Hasdgfas For both saying nothing more then "This wagon is nice and safe and no one will notice. Actually, Unvote I need to see more from these two but these guys are right up there with peers. I want to vote Hasd because Mert just got her but i don't think that is a legitmate excuse to pick one over the other. We should really look at those two.
This could be one of the most insincere looking things I have EVER read in a mafia game.
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People on page 4 are acting stupid about the bandwagoning stuffz. Like Panzer and ABR.

Page 5- ZOMG OMGUS OMGUS OMGUS from Sik to Yos.

Most everything else is useless.

Page 6
Yos2 wrote:I agree with Yos 2.
FoS:Sik
Apparrently I was wrong about things on there being useless.
I'm getting townish vibes from Hasdieaurgn and (GASP) BM for not joining the easy wagon on Sik by defending him with a Meta.

Still no good vibes from Panzer though.
Panzer wrote:So, are we lynching hasd or peers?
Hooray for False dillemmas! And spelling errors!
unvote, Vote:Panzer


Jordan is all over the radar in post 146

He attacks Neo for attacking Sik
He attacks Sik for omgusing (After defending him one statement before)
he attacks Peers for backtracking on a SARCASTIC STATEMENT
Jordan wrote:I'm willing to sort of let Silkario go for now, because of BM's post, this does not mean that I'll never suspect him though.
and that is extremely insincere.
FoS:Jordan

Page 7
A sudden Sik wagon with Kscope and ABR hopping on in posts 164 and 165 with nothing more than a vote. Notable.

An obvious ABR trap happens afterwards. :Roll:
Ergo wrote:
Peers wrote:I'm glad we don't have a deadline right now. I'd have to vote for Sikario8 out of self-defense, and that's a horrible reason to vote for someone (well, not -horrible-, but there's better).
I really don't like this post, I'm not sure why Peers feels the need to point out that he's not doing something scummy, or raise the subject of a deadline at all. It's not as black and white as Albert makes it out to be, but I certainly think it's a scummy post in its own right.

Unvote, Vote: Peers

IGMEOY, Neo-Viper.
I agree with this.

Yos states the same thing in the next post, obviously so I can state I agree with Yos2.
FoS:Peers


Page8
TS wrote:So, Sikario is a selective flaker. In my experience (your experience may vary) I have noticed that flakers are very often scum caught early. They sign up for a game of fooling everybody for months, and they get caught in the first week. Disgusted or disappointed with their own performance, they flake. Or they half-play, or sorta give up, that kind of unsportsman-like behavior. So my guess is that if Sikario has stuck to this game, it's probably because he's enjoying it more than the other games, i.e., he's not prematurely caught scum.
I can tell you, from experience, this is untrue.

TS is being really reasonable. This encourages me, in light of her irrational defense of scumbuddies and statements as scum I have seen before (Such as Cats mafia and PR3) protown vibes.
ABR wrote:I find him scummy for not voting Peers because he is afraid of that being seen as OMGUS, and playing to survive, which will be interpreted as scummy, etc. etc.

However a town wouldn't care about what he's being seen as as long as his vote is in the right place.

I can point to games where I've bullied players in a similar fashion as town if you really want.
Then you asked him a loaded question! If he followed you he was playing to survive and look good! If he didn't, he was scared that it would look omgus, and was playing to survive!

Major FoS:ABR
I would say that ABR is possibly setting up a newbish town, or throwing a newb buddy under the bus, and hard.

Page 9

Suddenly I'm conflicted. ABR provides a decent case against BM... = ( If BM comes up scum, I would say it's better evidence against Peers, and that it's more likely ABR is town.

A few comments. Some desperation from Peers. Som more uselessness from Panzer. A lack of Yos2 posts. Some reasonableness from Ergo. Nothing to noteworthy though.

Page 10
MoS wrote:Unvote, Vote: Toaster Strudel

Metagame policy to lynch TS in every game until I see some useful posts instead of random ranting that doesn't even contain logic.
Mosnotreadingmustfos

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Mos is teh funneh. I'd say he's probably being sarcastic, and TS is getting less reasonable as she gets more excited. = (

BM votes ABR AGAIN.

Page 11

BM actually had a good trap, as the townie PM IS in the first post... now ABR is grasping straws.
MoS wrote:TS is a crackpot idiot who gets way too carried away divulging herself in ridiculous theories that are so strung out they fall apart like a house of cards if a breeze comes through. I'm more than willing to policy lynch a person like that in any game, unless I have a better suspect. And since it's only page 11 on Day 1 of a large game, that's a damn good place for my vote.
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"LAWL I DUN WANNA READ, SO IMA VOTE TS! YAY FOR NOT READING!"

Seriously.

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Page 12
Yos2 wrote:Lurking really hurts the town, and I think that just relying on the mod to control the problem is not in the best interestes of the town. Anyway, I understand that some reasonable people disagree with me on the validity of lurker voting, and that's ok, but I don't like that you're apparently using that as one of your reason to join the large peers wagon.
......Yos2 has been lurking.... <.< All of his posts have been protown, the few he had, except for these on page 12.... meh I still think he's town atm.

hasdrepgiubdec isn't understanding posts.
MoS wrote:Why is everyone assuming I'm a Jester? It's kinda weird that it already popped up this early in the game, just because I made a policy vote on Day 1. What's the big deal? DGB/TS is a liability to the town, so eliminating her helps us. I don't really see how this at all indicates that I am some sort of diabolical Jester trying to get lynched. And yes I know that this ridiculous matter was started by ABR and should therefore be completely disregarded. However, it wasn't disregarded, so I'm concerned as to why the idea was given credence.
Well... if you're not being protown then logic follows you are... ANTITOWN. Gah, at least read and don't policy vote. I don't think you're town if you refuse to only policy vote, and act like you're not doing anything wrong. When I lurk I admit it atleast = |

page 13

So far MoS is still being stupid. Elmo (IE ME) made me laugh with the clue-by-four line.
Panzer wrote:It feels like distancing. MoS and TS are both experianced players, know what is and isn't out of character of eacher and each have more then enough games under their belt to be metagamed. I have a feeling MoS is looking bad for TS to look good. This theory is far-fetched but it's all I got on the situation.

Still voting peers.
Zomg, this feels sincere. Suddenly TS's and MoS's doesn't. Yet I don't like Panzer's other posts.

Conclusion? The size of this game... if all three are scum, I'd say they weren't the same scum group. This is mainly theoretical, as is the TS/MoS distancing thing.

I am aware my vote is still on Panzer.

XD TS called MoS Quagmire's mentor. Everyone knows Quag DESPISES MoS. Now she's entering her straw grasping phase....

I think Quag is town atm. His post 316 is insightful and sincere imo.


Page 14

Albert agrees with the person he wants to lynch I believe.
MoS wrote:Why the hell woudl you give up on metagaming? It's the most reliable way to find scum. To dismiss meta-evidence is a horrible strategic plan.
Do you have a link to any other game where you have voiced this opinion?
Panzer wrote:This is effectively clouding the judgement of townies. Because MoS could be town and TS is most likely town and they are simply arguing with each other forcing the town to go on a witch hunt.
How did you come to this conclusion?

I will explain why, so far, stupidity has abounded on page 14.

MoS IGNORES the entire thread, for a random policy lynch vote, not even checking if TS has been doing the same things.
TS then over reacts to this ONE POLICY LYNCH VOTE
Quag stays pretty rational.
Panzer wrote:Quagmire, depending on the other pieces in the puzzle, could be scum. If peers is scum, It could mean MoS is scum and TS is town. This could very well mean quag is either playing poorly or is giving MoS the benefikt of the doubt due to tenure.

Right now, that's what I see of quag, He is voting TS due to him knowing MoS for a long while. That doesn't stop im from being advantageuous scum voting for whoever in the arguement of two towns.

The biggest thing to me is peers lynch. I would like an alignment to go off of before we continue discussing MoS TS and Quag.
.....This is not even a rational thought. You just seem to be jumbling names, words, and could. I dislike it.
TS wrote:Peers is stalled at lynch-2 with MoS and Quag coming in with an off-wagon, distraction vote. To metagame MoS here, his vote looks independent of any in-game considerations. Quag's vote, however, has no bone to pick with me (I am sure of that, I have rarely played with him), so it's much more suspicious, maybe hiding behind a veil of support for a friend.
So why are you letting the guy off the hook who you just admitted is
ignoring the game
?

Page 15

MoS gets rational. The problem is he has distracted from EVERYTHING by making his own evidence. I don't like it one bit.
Major FoS:MoS

TS wrote:Today too, Sikario8 continues to post in other games and ignore this one. I hope there is a good explanation.
As a frequent lurker lately, I will confirm that avoiding games is usually more on how mch work it takes to post. Not explicitly avoiding a thread. To be honest, I would make MORE of a point to post as scum (though not much more) since I'd be more concerned about suspicions. I am extremely tired of seeing this.

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Schism wrote:I would go as far to say that MoS is throwing around smoke and flames... And so are others. Earlier, mos was getting attacked for posting oddly and now everyones right aboard with him. jeez.
I would agree with this sentiment.

Why did Sika do a dice roll at the end of page 15?

Page 16
MoS wrote:We need more pressure on Jordan.
I need you to make less distractions on significant wagons.
FoS:MoS


I'm tired of Peers being stuck to the bottom of Jordan's behind.

Page 17
MoS wrote:How the hell wasn't I an easy wagon with the anti-MoS sentiment that had already been growing before you voted me. Just because people hadn't placed a vote yet doesn't change the fact that the feeling was there. Everyone was speculating about me being a Jester or scum, and you took advantage of that to try and start a wagon on me.
..... I may feel the need to switch my vote to MoS if I see more posts like this = |

(Hair pull) Why is everyone being so STUPID on this page!?! MoS is being irrational, accusing others of mistakes he is making, using weak arguments, and distracting from everything. It looks like he's doing what I did a few games ago in open 20, and that is intentionally using scum tactics.
unvote, vote:MoS
He's either a Jester, or scum. I can honestly say I've never seen MoS play like this. He's not even angry!

Page 18

Quoted replies are only funny for so long.

Why is quag policy lynching.

Why is Quag suddenly stupid. = |

Quag why are you being stupid? You were being so rational = (
MoS wrote:You just proved my point. You quoted me the entirety of your case against me, and the only reason you are trying to get me lynched is because I made a freakin' policy vote on Day 1, even thought I made no effort to convince anyone to join me, and abandoned it when there was something useful for me to direct my attention to. That's a completely bullshit case that has no substance to it whatsoever, and it IS nothing but smoke and flames.
Day 1. Page 10. Saying that there was nothing to go off of. Essentially a random vote without your dice tags.

MoS is trying to bully someone by skewing facts.

Page 19

Are Jesters "normal" roles?

ABR is being stupid. WHY IS EVERYONE IN THIS GAME BEING STUPID!? I actually think ABR is being gambitting town. He needs to stop and play right.

Peers is ignoring an MoS metagame.

Halfway done I am posting this. I will finish, this later.

Just to make sure
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Post Post #944 (isolation #5) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:55 am

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I have made it to page 19. Until Quag started policy lynching he was logical and townish. Then he started being like MoS and stupid.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #6) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:59 am

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^5 Now read my post
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Post Post #948 (isolation #7) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:01 am

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No, if he followed you, by your own admission, he would be doing the thing that made him look protown. You could have spun it as him being scum either way with that question. A true "Loaded Question"
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Post Post #953 (isolation #8) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 6:44 am

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TS, what did I
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post about that tell. Read post pluz.
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Post Post #955 (isolation #9) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:12 am

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Post Post #969 (isolation #10) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:48 pm

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So... if I call you scum, you won't snap about an integral part of the game?
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Post Post #971 (isolation #11) » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:02 pm

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Err that was directed at MoS of course.
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:35 am

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DGB's logic in the post about Yos2 and Has being scum because they were defending a scumbudy, so we should lynch them instead of Quag is HORRIBLE.
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Post Post #1109 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:00 pm

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Yos quoted it TS.

I'm finding it hard to get back into reading >.<; Semester started today.
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #14) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:16 pm

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TS, please summarize a case on why quag is scum, including quotes or at least post numbers for evidence.
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Post Post #1148 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 09, 2008 3:30 pm

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TS wrote:
My experience in this game is that people that give the town a hard time about claiming are almost always scum.
....Games please. THis isn't my experience at all.
TS wrote:[...]he was careful not to link himself to other players beyond policy-voting me, following MoS and trying to intimidate Bookitty a little [...]
How about his early play compared to MoS? This is false.
TS wrote:Look at how he wasted 30+ pages policy voting, didn't claim earlier at lynch -1, refused to answer questions even from his friend Yosarian, stubbornly refused to cooperate, try to find scum, and actually play the game in a manner that HELPS the town. He only recently switched his vote from me to Bookitty to intimidate her, in my opinion, because Bookitty was using her brain, and Quagmire wets his bed every time he has to deal with a player that is able to think.
When did Failure to claim become a scumtell?

Why wasn't MoS JUST AS SCUMMY pages 10-20?

Your last point here is silly.
TS wrote:(1) Jerked town around about role PM business.
(2) Needed to be at lynch minus 1 to allegedly read it.
(3) Has done absolutely nothing pro-town.
(4) Sabotaged all attempts for us to evaluate his alignment.
(5) His current strategy is to make sure he cannot be linked to any other player but one.
(6) Stubbornly policy voting a single player while denying it.
(7) Categorically refuses to answer questions - even from Yosarian who defended him earlier.
(8) This lynch will be informative of the alignment of the players that defended him, ie Yosarian, MoS and hasdfas.
(9) To completely refuse to involve oneself in the game in any capacity beyond a wholly useless policy vote, is thoroughly scummy. That's the kind of thing a mafiosi might do in order not to compromise his buddies and leave no hints leading to them.
1. So how is he scum?
2.So how is he scum?
3.So how is he scum, and not just not protown?
4.plausible if it can be proved he was doing it on purpose, and not just dicking around.
5.See early game. This is a silly scumtell i think.
6.See earlier comments
7.Scum or a "good lynch"?
8.Doubt it
9.No it's not. It's anti town. Doesn't mean it is indicative of alignment. You also contradict your point 4 with this statement.

Your last quote is kind of meh. I'd say thats more about Quag being disenfranchised with the game and how it's being played, than Quag actually being mafia because of it.

So how much of this case is bias, conspiracy, and things just not leading to alingment?
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:45 pm

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Panzer, why did you wait until Quag wouldn't be lynched for you to go straight back to Peers?

Now I want to vote for Panzer
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #17) » Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:13 am

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The point that he's going for the easist lynch. It's no longer quag, so... BACK TO PEERS.
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Post Post #1229 (isolation #18) » Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:28 am

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I was talking about Panzer.
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Post Post #1255 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:39 pm

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How come EVERY GAME I'M IN WITH KSCOPE, he is wagoned for no reason, other than lurking or something stupid.

plz let's not b stoopid.
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Post Post #1260 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:46 pm

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There's alot better reasons to vote for Panzer or MoS.
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #21) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:48 pm

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Why did ABR switch from a larger wagon to a smaller wagon to end the day on page 50?
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #22) » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:53 pm

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I think Ergo and I were both in that game actually[/offtopic]

But this generally happens to Kscope in everygame.
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #23) » Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:50 pm

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Why did he claim townie and THEN doc?
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #24) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:10 am

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Mod:Does Peers have two votes?
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Post Post #1414 (isolation #25) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:16 am

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So, let's totally throw blame on someone.

That sounds awesome.
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #26) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:50 am

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.........

NEGWLTWWWTKY

Something about nuclear I know that.

but really?
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #27) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:21 pm

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Peers your logic makes babies cry.
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Post Post #1449 (isolation #28) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:37 pm

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It doesn't matter who his target is atm.

It just makes babies cry.
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Post Post #1458 (isolation #29) » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:55 pm

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Peers, quit making babies cry!

Everytime you talk you make puppies stomp kittens, and then those puppise get stomped by cows.

Scenario A:You claim your target.

SO WHAT!? The person who killed KNOWS something stopped them. They're going to assume it's you anyways. So what you're doing is just hiding information from somebody who may
already have it


And what will it do for the town?
Absolutely nothing
. The scum have no reason to disbelieve you. The town has reason too. Maybe you blocked a vig kill, IF you blocked a kill. The vig should NOT come out to confirm you. That would make babies crush crying kittens, while the babies cried.

Scenario B:You come out with your information.

WHO CARES, IT'S USELESS.

FoS:Peers for the auto overdefensiveness at hiding his target.
Since you didn't go through any of the above thought process, you must have thought it would confirm your claim one way or another. This shows an extreme lack of hesitation to confirm yourself.

FoS:ABR
For just being stupid and trying to press something retarded.

Now can we PLEASE stop making babies cry?
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Post Post #1484 (isolation #30) » Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:37 pm

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TS I literally want to strangle you right now. You're attitude is insufferable. = |

I mean seriously.

WHY WON'T YOU ALL BE LOGICAL!? WHY MUST YOU MAKE BABIES CRY!?

I would guess from the extensive scene that Peers died from either

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B.A mod mistake

TS, what happens if Quag IS town? What will your thoughts be?
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Post Post #1498 (isolation #31) » Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:18 pm

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Oh you've GOT to be kidding me.
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:31 pm

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TS I haven't voted you yet, so I don't understand why you say OMGUS.

How can you be certain it was a mod mistake? It really doesn't make a difference, but I'd hazard a guess that the scene made it more likely there was a delayed kill.

You had just made a post about Quag saying you were sure he was scum. Last time I saw someone so focused on someone they were scum. See open 19 nightless. I'd prefer you to attempt to take in all angles if you are town, and to force you to make some type of answer on his alignment if he's possibly town if you're scum.

I said you've got to be kidding me, because you had just said you were going back to quag, setael comes in and says a few words about Panzer, and all you say is "I can go for a panzer lynch" and move your vote.

I'm still contemplating about TS right now, I just find her extremely exasperating atm.
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Post Post #1513 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 3:42 pm

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TS wrote:Players I'm willing to vote for today:
Panzer (who rushed to lynch Kscope in a way that prevented him to claim)
hasdagas (who rushed to hammer Kscope in a way that prevented him to claim)
zu_Faul
SirTornado
Setael

Players I'm not willing to vote for today:
ABR (I totally believe the claim)
Bookitty
Jordan
Erg0
What happened to this list?

ABR why are you voting Ergo?

ABR, why did you press Peers to reveal his target?

TS why are you voting Panzer?

Panzer, why are you voting TS?


Set's being logical, I'm thinking she's town. Question though, why are you voting Panzer? Why do you think a Has or Panzer lynch would be good?
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Post Post #1544 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:34 am

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Albert wrote:Eg0 and Setael are assuredly highest on my scumlist. I cannot explain except for my 20 game+ razor sharp intuition, plus recent tells I've gotten from Setael to separate her scumplay from her townplay, although I am more sure of Eg0 who I've since more of throughout the months.
No I've seen Set scum, and this is not Set scum play that I'm used to. This looks like Set town play. See Open 19.

I'd like cross game examples of both, as all I'm still seeing from you is "OH EM GEE, SCUM"

Volkan is doing a reread without using present information. I'm saddened.
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I'm not talking about this game. I'm talking about your play in previous games, Egypt in particular. This game is starting to feel like Peril in Panama all over again.
Oh you should have seen Fire Emblem.
TS wrote:Look at what's happening... people are being jumped on for putting in a vote #1, people are being jumped on for even considering putting a vote #2!!! How on earth are we going to lynch anyone? I hope this day 2 isn't day 1 all over again. Let's COLLABORATE, GET OUR ACT TOGETHER and GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD, please!
This is not happening at all. Quit skewing the facts. Since the day has started you've switched your vote around 5 times.

You aren't even attempting to make a case, except on Quag, and you then switched your vote two posts later.

I also am dissapointed you are ignoring all attempts to start discussion to chide the town for something they haven't even done yet.

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Post Post #1555 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:14 pm

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Huh I could have sword TS had voted more than twice today.

Meh, still
TS wrote:Look at what's happening... people are being jumped on for putting in a vote #1, people are being jumped on for even considering putting a vote #2!!! How on earth are we going to lynch anyone? I hope this day 2 isn't day 1 all over again. Let's COLLABORATE, GET OUR ACT TOGETHER and GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD, please!
This didn't happen
TS wrote:Yeah, and who is making cases right now? Panzer who just flaked? ABR who decided for unfathomable reasons that Erg0 is scum??? Zu_faul, who is, in my book, potential scum and is voting for me anyway? Who? Show me some good cases. ABR who is asking OTHER FREAKIN PEOPLE to make his cases??????? My case on Quag is a total waste of time. I wasted 55 pages on Day 1, can you imagine my frustration? Nobody wants to lynch anyone.
So how does this excuse you from not making a case yourself? Or even another case? Instead of counting those 55 pages as "wasted" you could try reading some more of them, you know. If you're town I'd at least think you'd try to analyze some wagons or try and see who was just voting MoS.

I haven't gone through the whole thread myself, but I'm not calling 55 pages wasted, and complaining about the lack of activity. There WAS legitimate discussion, and you could always, you know, ANSWER MY QUESTIONS I ASKED, instead of getting overdefensive.
TS wrote:Right, I'm not discussing enough? I haven't posted enough in this game??? Something the town hasn't done yet??? Were you there yesterday??? Argh!
How about today. With most of the major suspects gone, complaining doesn't get discussion going.
Boo wrote:I'm curious to know what people think of Quagmire now. If I were a big believer in nightkill speculation (I'm not usually, but I don't have much to go on in this game otherwise) I would be voting hasdgfas, because the people who were nightkilled were to greater or lesser degrees supporters of Quagmire during the recent day.
Meh, this is a very subtle statement, and I don't really like it. It's like you're trying to say something, but not exactly come out with it. Kind of planting the idea.
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I think Quag/Volkan (who I didn't know had replaced untiL I saw Bookie's last post) is neutral to me, because I don't think Quag was acting off of his alignment when he posted, but more out of apathy than anything. So, IMO, any statements he made are pretty null.

I'm keeping my vote on TS, because while her vote did not move as much as I had thought, her suspicions are all over the place, she's agreeing with seemingly random statements.

Example:Bookie says she'd prefer a Panzer or Cow lynch. She asks which one (after posting she was certain Quag was scum), and Bookie responds with a vote on Panzer. TS responds by moving her vote to Panzer.

Example B:Post 1503, BM posts he doesn't like my last few posts, votes me.

TS says BM (BM!) has a point about me, and she could see her voting for me.

I feel like she's either A.Hiding from commiting to to much (other than something about Quag/Volkan) or B.attempting to buddy up maybe.

NOTE:This isn't really all that strong, but I find it's stronger than it's to much I've seen today, and I'm going to trust my hunch, since I didn't trust it as well last game and lost because of it.
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:29 pm

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Setael, not Bookie.

Dangit.
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Post Post #1563 (isolation #37) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:00 am

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Today TS, Today.
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #38) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:27 pm

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Hey, give me the list for designer MoS.
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Post Post #1664 (isolation #39) » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:08 am

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err... kay

Also I'm still here, I took one of my weird week long breaks where I lurk all over the place.

Ask anyone who's in Fire Emblem mafia, since night there lasted like a week or so.

Also feel free to replace into fire emblem mafia!

and I will attempt to catch up on stuff relatively soon.
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Post Post #1675 (isolation #40) » Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:39 pm

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How about townie?

There it's possible.

End of discussion.
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Post Post #1839 (isolation #41) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:11 pm

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I shall post stuff in a few minutes/hours/days/weeks! I promise!

Also I was
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Post Post #1841 (isolation #42) » Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:59 pm

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and that statement is false.
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Post Post #1851 (isolation #43) » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:11 pm

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TS wrote:BM is posting everywhere but this game.

Is he purposely lurking because he's town, or scum?
1.Quit being so subtle. That last statement added nothing, but to make sure people thought it looked scummy

2.It's a stupid argument anyway, that is more of a null, lazy, or lack of opinion tell than an actual scum tell. It's something that sounds bad, that you can't actually draw information from.
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Post Post #2160 (isolation #44) » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:41 am

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IH is totally here

IH is totally going to be catching up this week.

IH has mutliple people on his back to ensure this.
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Post Post #2310 (isolation #45) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:57 pm

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Yay. I can shout at Volkan later.

Also I will attempt to post this weekend before I start cramming for exams.
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Post Post #2313 (isolation #46) » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:56 pm

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Post Post #2315 (isolation #47) » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:41 pm

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^7 fo sho
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Post Post #2319 (isolation #48) » Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:44 am

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Just for clarification, I think your number system is silly, and just adds on needless complicated percentages (which isn't even percentages anymore) in place of simple adjectives.

If you ARE going to use the number system, I would like to request you put them in order from scummiest to town or towniest to scum. In other words, put your nubmers in order. Thanks.
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Post Post #2331 (isolation #49) » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:02 pm

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I've decided I'm going to post thoughts on original things, and then gradually catch up.

So in other words, start off playing the game, and the plan is I continually post and catch up from integration, looking up what I need to.

This sounds like a good idea.
Elvis wrote:I believe there is a a townie mindset that is mostly looking for "scum" player and "town" players. At least in the beginning of a game, I don't think townies think about or look for SK's. It's too nebulous. Maybe later in the game I can see trying to identify scum from scum and looking for an SK. But I think townies don't look for SK on D1.
I would generally agree with this. Unfortunately I don't think that TS is a generic player, as she is a pretty eratic player. Whenever she gets caught, she's usually pretty clear, so I'd personally say that this tell on her is probably null. I like your logic on this though.

I generally like Elvis's answers to Volkan's questions.

On second thought, due to the spam(partly MY spam), I may review the last few pages, but I probably won't read the 30-40 pages I actually missed in the mean time unless the conversation shifts to that point where something interesting comes up from it.
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Post Post #2527 (isolation #50) » Sat May 31, 2008 1:54 pm

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/not replaced?

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Post Post #2528 (isolation #51) » Sat May 31, 2008 1:59 pm

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Also, we've not sunk to listening to BM in my absence, have we?
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Post Post #2530 (isolation #52) » Sat May 31, 2008 5:51 pm

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Xylthim wrote:So you're saying that the fact that you're making the most retarded comments in the world is not a scumtell. Gotcha.
See Open...7 I think it was where BM tried to get me lynched, while he was town, by saying, "It's what (Forgot his name) would have wanted"
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Post Post #2534 (isolation #53) » Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:58 pm

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I will have limited access from this saturday, the 7th, to next saturday, the 14th (which will not be lurking ZOMG).

the 7th and 8th I'm going to a two day smash tourney (melee bitches), and then that monday afterwards I'm going to the beach with my family until that friday. I may have internet access that week or not.
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Post Post #2563 (isolation #54) » Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:12 pm

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Obviously you don't DESERVE to have a vote. = P
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Post Post #2565 (isolation #55) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 12:08 pm

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I steal people's double jump's in melee.

Is that the same thing?

ALSO XYL!?!

We should lynch that guy ASAP, or is that not Xyl from MTGSchat?
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Post Post #2569 (isolation #56) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:15 pm

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Well, the fact that you're not dead, means you're scum or unkillable.

or else nobody else knows who you are to know the tradition of killing you the first chance they get.
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Post Post #2571 (isolation #57) » Mon Jun 16, 2008 2:49 pm

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Uh... Dude.

IT'S XYL.

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Untrod Tripod (7:27:18 PM): you enjoy whoring
xcaykex (7:27:24 PM): yes
xcaykex (7:27:26 PM): i know that

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