Mafia 70: Traditional - Game over!

[ZONEACE]

11) ZONEACE.... I am of the opinion that he got the doctor killed, which makes me ponder whether it was on purpose or not.

Excuse me??? you wanna run that one past me again? I GOT THE DOCTOR KILLED???

[ZONEACE]

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is that enough Jdodge?

[ZONEACE]

maybe later

[ZONEACE]

i did, im considering it. will respond tomorrow or thursday

[ZONEACE]

it was A.

[ZONEACE]

that would be absolutely retarded. you've been looking for an excuse to lynch me since you joined the game.

[ZONEACE]

my official response is that I think you're scum cause you keep coming at me with crap logic, especially your most recent attack. Why would 2 mafia members EVER make a comment like that in a game? are you that STUPID skruffs that you really think BM and I are both mafia and talking about our PMs in the game thread????


You level of fail so far in this game is inexplicably high.

[ZONEACE]

you are dumb, true story.

[ZONEACE]

lynch me then smart guy. We'll see who's scum won't we?

[ZONEACE]

Simenon, I'm *NOT* confirmed, I claimed an innocent on the godfather and two counts of roleblocking.

Why are people treating me like I am?

I'm not

and haven't been

[ZONEACE]

And while we're bitching about masons voting each other, why is Niv on the wagon too? Having just confirmed she's a mason, do you guys BOTH think she's the scum implied in your roles? O_o

That would seem to be the implication.

[ZONEACE]

What is spin doctoring?

Taking the facts and making them mean what you want them to be.

[ZONEACE]

Seatel and Bookitty are really bothering me (scum wise, i don't mean they are bothering me on a a personal level). But ive been VERY busy lately so Im not prepared to make a vote at this moment, I'll try to make a reasonably intelligent post in the next couple of days. Sorry.

[ZONEACE]

I'm Vanilla. Would be nice if you let me post my final suspicions, before you hammer me.

what's stopping you from doing it in that post right there???????????????


that was stupid.

[ZONEACE]

so does anyone care if i hammer now? cause that post right there just SCREAMED scum. If you have final suspicions why wouldn't you just post them in your claim post?????

[ZONEACE]

So wehther bm is scum or not, and getš hammered before he lays out his "suspicions", lynch zoneace and mos tomorrow. Yes both of them in one day.

Why is he getting lynched again?

I've been sick and haven't been catching up.

u r teh smarterest

[ZONEACE]

Because im busy revising for my f***ing maths exam. Ive notified anyone whom it may concern that they should sit tight. Ill be able to post properly on Thursday, when i have a day off after my exam.

Wish me luck!

BM

ANd it would have been too much for you to have put that in your previous post? Cause showing up, claiming vanilla, and then getting indignant that you're close to being lynched, but still not posting your final suspicions looks scummy.

[ZONEACE]

Vote : ZONEACE

This works for me.

yep ur teh smarterest still.

[ZONEACE]

ZONEFUACE, I think you are a great guy. You're smart, charismatic, and I like the stylish flair you put in your posts. This game, though, this game I think you are slipping a bit.

meh, its possible. It could be that this game just drags ON AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON without anything being accomplished. We have decidedly scummy people that we could lynch, and instead, people keep coming after me. Is there a reason that bookitty, kore, bm and seatel are all not sitting there with 3 or 4 votes each? All them make my skin crawl with scum vibes.

[ZONEACE]

right so

vote bm

[ZONEACE]

I too am a little confused as to how im now suddenly scummy.

[ZONEACE]

im more struck by how it seems to have appeared out of no where.

[ZONEACE]

yeah let's vote me bookitty, that's a good idea...oh wait.

[ZONEACE]

kitty, you're wrong, shut up, it's really getting old you intentionally trying lynch townies. GIVE IT UP. why don't lynch someone actually scummy like Kore, or Seatel?



in fact, i'll take a step in the right dirrection

vote kore

[ZONEACE]

and you've proved my point OVER AND OVER.

[ZONEACE]

I MAY BE V/LA TIL THE 10TH

[ZONEACE]

kore, seatel and kitty bother me. theres my list ether.

[ZONEACE]

well ill have to go back and look for specifics, but I have a list. The behavior of your 3 for the last couple of days has not set well with me.

[ZONEACE]

this is in NO WAY a defense of MOS, i'm pretty indifferent, but Bookitty, could you be trying to force this case on MOS any harder. I mean honestly, you're acting like a damn lyncher at this point (no im not saying you are). Its just annoying and a bit scummy.

[ZONEACE]

ZONEACE, I would argue I pushed a much harder case against Simenon. It was certainly more than three posts worth. Why didn't that one bother you enough to comment on? Three posts are enough to overcome your "indifference", when a great many more did not?

That's one of the reasons ive been suspicious of you. You're trying WAY TOO HARD.

[ZONEACE]

i can't reach a breaking point?

ive been keeping mum about the ridiculous pushes most of the game but ive notcied them. They're getting tired.

[ZONEACE]

Ether: Why are you answering questions addressed to Sir T?

that was a little weird.

[ZONEACE]

the point was FOR HIM to answer the question.

[ZONEACE]

if he tried to lie.

[ZONEACE]

For the life in me, I cannot understand need for ZONEACE vig. He doesn't need to be vigged. You don't vig easy lynches. Besides that, he is town. You vig people who are scummy AND notoriously hard to be lynched.

Well at least one of you understands.

[ZONEACE]

still not scum, but good try sime.

[ZONEACE]

Are you ok with the fact that Sir T wants to vig me with no reason for thinking I'm scum?

im ok with it, but then again thats cause you're scum wiht kore

[ZONEACE]

So just for the record, ether and sim think i was bussing TS from day one? and Bussing BM? That i made NO attempt to keep scum buddies alive? Am I correct in my understanding of what you two believe?

[ZONEACE]

I would say Kore, Seatel or Bookitty.

[ZONEACE]

they're scum.


But if we're going to keep the masons alive just because they're masons (despite the fact that one of them is scum and its the one i mentioned) then fine remove the mason from my list.

(but just for the record, i told you so about bookitty)

[ZONEACE]

im all for not lynching Jdodge, simply out of self preservation because i seem to be number 2 on the vig list behind him.


and seeing as how i'm not scum staying alive is my goal.

[ZONEACE]

lol i almost made the same mistake earlier with Jdodges post SirT.

And no i don't think its survivor, but staying alive is certainly one of my goals in everygame.

[ZONEACE]

Great, so i die tonight, DESPITE NOT BEING SCUM.

truly wonderful.

[ZONEACE]

YES STAYING ALIVE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN GETTING A LYNCH IF WE'RE LYNCHING THE WRONG PEOPLE. WHAT DOES VIGGING DO BUT PROVE IVE BEEN TELLING THE TRUTH THE WHOLE GAME AND ALLOW THE SCUM TO CONTINUE OPERATING UNMOLESTED.

[ZONEACE]

You know what, if he's scum then Vig me. i can live with that, if i have to die in a scum for town trade to make you all see what's going on then fine. BUT IF JDODGE TURNS UP TOWN I NEED TO BE ALIVE TOMORROW.

If Jdodge is town and you vig me, then we wake up tomorrow with 8 people and likely 3 scum meaning lylo.


Honestly if Jdodge comes up town i don't think you should kill anyone.

[ZONEACE]

its certainly the fault of everyone who votes for me/vig's me. CONSIDERING THERE ARE SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER TARGETS.

but really, if jdodge is town and there are 2 deaths tomorrow night, you're clearly not a vig and instead a sk.

[ZONEACE]

My last post was made before I read ZONEACE'S last post, so read it before you read ZONEACE's last post.

does that mean you agree with that post?

[ZONEACE]

so now theres no possibility of a scum mason?

interesting that you just discounted that completely

[ZONEACE]

ZONEACE, you think Korejora (your choice for vig) is better target than you in eyes of the town? Why?

ill answer this later I need to go back and find things as my notes haven't been what you'd call well, much of anything.

I am not going to forego a vig, not if we are treating the vig as an extra lynch.

AN EXTRA WRONG LYNCH THAT WILL PUT US IN LYLO

[ZONEACE]

it makes a huge difference, cause something could happen tonight that would sway people or we could get some sort of info revealed tomorrow or someone else could make a mistake and we could find a scum and still have a chance of winning the game.

One thing ive found in mafia is that inevitabilities rarely come to fruition (sp)

also, im currently composing a small explanation for why kore needs to die


oh and i don't think its traitor +3 i think its 3 mafia left in total. 1 mason and 2 non mason.

[ZONEACE]

im adding EVERYONE to my do not vig list if Jdodge is town.

[ZONEACE]

Vote ZONEACE

then let's kill mos and win the game.

Still not scum.

vote kore

[ZONEACE]

See the reason you're discounting Kore as scum seatel is the exact reason im suspicious. Kore (and kore's predescessor aimee) we're fairly tunnel vision early on (on both BM/zorg and TS) and it reaked of bussing/distancing.


But in all honesty guys, I am not a good lynch.

[ZONEACE]

hahaha you are all so gonna kick yourselves. i cant wait to see everyones reaction when we lose.

[ZONEACE]

Where is everyone else? This is an open and shut case. Let's take down a scum.

hmm yeah speed lynch=suspicious.

unvote vote MoS

[ZONEACE]

if they think they can get away with it. If they find someone that enough people find scummy.

oh well, you should probably be lynched tomorrow when everyone sees just how NOT SCUM i am.

[ZONEACE]

well before you weren't being completely stupid/obv scum, now you are.

[ZONEACE]

I can understand voting for me (kinda of, even though im clearly not scum) but hes actively advocating quick lynching. It seems like a scum trying to get the town behind what some of them thing is a good lynch that he knows really isn't. he had no real evidence against me, but thinks i should be lynched ASAP. If he had an information role and had caught me in a lie then fine, quick lynch to your hearts content, but in this situation it's a scum move.

[ZONEACE]

Sure, I don't think we're quicklynching anyone.

you may want to tell MoS that, cause he certainly thinks we're quick lynching me

[ZONEACE]

Does anyone else think that we could catch/clear anyone with a mass claim?

In this game? No.

[ZONEACE]

I don't blame MoS for leaning toward me over Kore after her interaction with BM. I don't think Kore is scum. I know it's not me and I don't think it's MoS so that's why my vote is on Zoneace.

And that's why you're wrong.

[ZONEACE]

I am most suspicious of Kore, Seatel and Bookitty, like i have been for the last 2 and a half days. I realize its pretty much impossible that all 3 of them are scum but i couldn't pick 2. MoS' bombastic swings are starting to inch him up the ladder, but i still think its 2 of the 3 i mentioned.

[ZONEACE]

So if it's one of three, ZONEACE, why are you apparently voting for someone not even in your top three?

oh woops, that was a left over defensive/self saving vote from when MoS was trying speed lynch me.

unvote vote kore

[ZONEACE]

I have been attacking ZONEACE at least twice during this game and because he hasn't changed, my opinions have not changed.

you think your pointless and incorrect attacks are going to make me change? Cause you may want to bring that dellusion to an end.

[ZONEACE]

well ive already done this in my own way but whatever

Kore is my number one
Book and Seatel are my secondaries
I AM voting because Kore is scum.

[ZONEACE]

my reasoning is I KNOW its not me. I don't think its sim or niv. I can't get a read on MoS (he's all over the map)

That leaves 4. Ether, You, Kore and Sea. I haven't seen ether's behavior as scummy. Now i have You Kore and Sea. I guess i could see Kore and Sea as the final 2. You're coming across more and more like town. I've explained my suspicions of Kore.

[ZONEACE]

4-6.


going back and looking at the night time activities, i think its entirely possible theres 1 mafia left and then the SK (theres obviously a SK. We've had 2 deaths at night that aren't Vig kills unless the vig is retarded) I would guess (for no particular reason) that the SK is the untrustworthy mason.

[ZONEACE]

ZONEACE: Sir Tornado was the vig, and already claimed all the extra kills.

If we have a serial killer, I think he/she is a pacifist.

oh right i forgot that.

[ZONEACE]

... you still don't get it.

[ZONEACE]

Actually, I prefer to lynch ZONEACE, if it comes down to it. At least town would derive something from that, and while I think MoS is very likely scum, I think ZONEACE might be, meta read or no.

And if Korejora is correct and I'm going to be lynched tomorrow regardless, I'd rather be held responsible for his lynch than hers. At least she contributes more than one sentence at a time.

vote ZONEACE

where the hell did this suddenly come from??? Nice random tunraround. you really have no concept of what's happening do you? (well either that or you're in on it.) I'm STILL not the correct lynch. i wasn't day 1, I wasn't day 2, day 3-5 that didn't change. Kore is the correct lynch. The behavior in relation to now dead scum should make it at least somewhat obvious kore is the correct lynch.

But yeah, goodposting boo. Your sudden change of heart makes perfect sense.

[ZONEACE]

gee there's a shocker, One of the scum switching the vote to me. SHOCKING.

well, right back at you seatel

unvote vote Seatel

the baseless vote change on top of my previous suspicions (and frankly an attempt to save the town from another mislynch)

[ZONEACE]

Kore's last post convinced me she's town and Zoneace's last post convinced me he's scum. It's a tone thing. And it's good enough for me.

Nice BS reasoning by the way. my TONE hasn't changed ALL GAME. so if suddenly my tone has convinced you I'm scum then you're full of crap cause its no different now than it was yesterday or the day before etc etc. You are just pulling reasons to lynch a townie out of your ass, and Boo's misguided change of heart gave you the oppurtunity to save Kore from death, and yourself from being exposed. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE someone else see that seatel's reasoning is absolute bunk and put an end to this inanity and insanity

[ZONEACE]

umm your vote is baseles sbecaues your reasoning IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE. you claim i've changed my tone, which is patently untrue. Bald face lying does=/=base for a vote (unless you're scum)

[ZONEACE]

See the reason you're discounting Kore as scum seatel is the exact reason im suspicious. Kore (and kore's predescessor aimee) we're fairly tunnel vision early on (on both BM/zorg and TS) and it reaked of bussing/distancing.


But in all honesty guys, I am not a good lynch.

Here's what I'mtalking about book. this post i made a while ago. This is when i first explained my reasoning for voting kore.

[ZONEACE]

why are you quoting Merrily We Roll Along simenon?

[ZONEACE]

Me, STILL.

[ZONEACE]

so looking back, and considering where we are that day one argument between Niv and Sim has be concerned. Both have sort of been forgotten as possible suspects since then and i think that was probably a HUGE mistake on our part. Still not sure who is the scum, but both of them are huge blips.

[ZONEACE]

ok, so, we're waiting on niv to respond. So, hey niv. Respond so we can lynch you or sim.

[ZONEACE]

vote sim

Something about niv's last few posts make me believe he's town. I don't really have an explanation, its just a gut feeling, and frankly, it looks like that's as good as anyone else.

[ZONEACE]

vote: Niv

Peekaboo.

Am I the only one that is bothered by this post?

[ZONEACE]

screw it,

unvote vote no lynch

[ZONEACE]

and you are all still as stupid as you were at the beginning of the game.


you know, im fed up with these false, baseless accusations

unvote vote zoneace

if you wanna lynch me so bad and end in the game in a town loss, then have at it. ive had mroe than a enough of this BS.

[ZONEACE]

I...still don't think ZONEACE is scum.

I will most likely hammer Niv; in the meantime, hi.

you seem to be the only who is able to figure out the obvious.

[ZONEACE]

hmm so i was wrong about everything until the last day, well frick

[ZONEACE]

after about the 3rd day I knew I'd make it to the end of the game. The mafia wasn't gonna kill me cause I was such an obvious target for possible lynching and i'd convinced enough people in the town i was in fact innocent I'd never be lynched.