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[The Rebbe]

Hello everyone!

I am pleased to replace in. I will be reading this tomorrow. If someone can give me a brief synopsis of the game so far that will be extremely helpful. It will also be helpful if you guys can give me some reads and if there are specific parts of the game that you want me to take a closer look at.

Thanks!!

[The Rebbe]

welcome to hell

Don't worry. I've been there plenty of times.

[The Rebbe]

rb is obvscum
put your vote on him

Please explain

[The Rebbe]

Facts: rb is confirmed town, IC that could reveal whenever they PMed the mod. A wagon built on him D1, he revealed he was IC, we ran up some other people and one of them, Gin (TheRealGin-N-Tonic) claimed Vig and set out a pool of players to shoot. about 5, maybe more people vocally didn't believe him, he got lynched, and flipped VT. Night 1 kill was Texcat who flipped a red mafia odd-night roleblocker, confirming multiball. That was the only kill which means the red mafia kill failed (or wasn't submitted).

My opinion: Red kill probably failed due to protection because if there's a red odd-night roleblocker, it points to blue having an even-night roleblocker, which means blue couldn't have blocked the kill, which means it was stopped by BP, JK, town RB, doctor, etc.

Thanks!

Is this game multiball?

[The Rebbe]

It's getting late and I'm headed off to bed. I'll binge read this in the morning and will hopefully give you all my thoughts by the evening.

I want to ISO Pine and Alisae

[The Rebbe]

Rebbe say hi to me when you catch up

Hi.

[The Rebbe]

UNVOTE: Dunnstral

Until I can finish reading through

[The Rebbe]

Has there been any other claims I should be aware of?

[The Rebbe]

Day talk is active.

YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT

You're right
I am retarded.
Your blue tie is still shit tho.

Just some thoughts from reading RVS: This appears to be a town slip from Alisae. Had Alisae been scum, he would have known that the scum team(s) have daychat enabled.

[The Rebbe]

I recently played a game as an IC and Pine had day talk as scum and manipulated me throughout the game till I sided with him in LyLo and lost the game for town and said I'd vote Pine every game we play together that has daytalk.

Lol. I remember that game.

[The Rebbe]

They're trying to fake a townslip. I wanna see who's gonna try to fake a townslip next.

Disagree with this. I don't see scum!Alisae faking a townslip so early.

What I will say is that I'm not liking creature's discussion of multiball/singleball during RVS.

[The Rebbe]

I recently played a game as an IC and Pine had day talk as scum and manipulated me throughout the game till I sided with him in LyLo and lost the game for town and said I'd vote Pine every game we play together that has daytalk.

Lol. I remember that game.

Shit. Just realized I probably gave away my main account.

[The Rebbe]

That's because I stopped reading the rest. There's no excuse for not coming up with a lynch on slick

Can you give me a list of your reads?

[The Rebbe]

Okay, I was kinda worried I was wrong about Pine and that he doesn't play like this as scum, though, it now explains he's scum trying to not be lynched nor NKed by the other scumteam.

The good news is that if Pine isn't lynched today, the other scumteam will probably kill him now.

Really not liking Creature.

[The Rebbe]

I'm still going through everything. My biggest town reads right now are on Titus and Mortfield. I would prefer to lynch ssbm today over wraith

[The Rebbe]

VOTE: ssbm

I'll explain once I get back to my laptop.

I have no idea why Jin decided to fake claim vigilante. Possibly the worst move from a townie that I have seen. I'm just glad the real vig didn't counter.

[The Rebbe]

Ssbm, I would like a claim from you before the day ends.

[The Rebbe]

I'd probably like both of them to claim. Though we will probably lynch Wraith over ssbm. I don't want to vig a town PR, which is why I wanted ssbm to claim.

[The Rebbe]

Since I already claimed, I will also claim that I was informed from the mod that my predecessor was the one that shot texcat last night.

[The Rebbe]

Spoiler:

They're trying to fake a townslip. I wanna see who's gonna try to fake a townslip next.

Hey if my role pm is green which side am I on?

I agree. Assuming 9 scum right off the bat implies foreknowledge of the setup, which in this case means scum. It's also such an absurd ratio that it would have to mean multiball.

Vote: Debi

Mmm that's a g00d VOTE right there
right there
if I do say so myself (i do say)

Lol Debi, You don't get the context as to why it's actually a god like miracle and because you opened to the door to the maths, let's do it. (I'll also go over your other concerns but let me have some fun here)

Spoiler: Maths for the fuck of it

I have two completed games under my belt and then this one I'm playing. So far out of all 3 of them, Pine has been them all.

Now the first game was the HungerGames Round 2 and that contained 17 players and there was 4 evil roles so we start out as me landing scum with a 4/17 chance. Now we multiply that by the Pine having the slot of scum as well so it's 3/16. Let us not forget that Pine also replaced in to a scum slot so that's a 3/16 chance he had the chance of replacing in to a scum slot and join me with day talk which is a 1/2 chance of being included.

Next, we move onto a game we just had where we had 5/8 townies and that was my chance of landing townie and 3/7 chance for Pine to land scum that game and again, 1/2 chance of having a game together with day talk.

Finally, this is where we do a little assuming here but I doubt the maths change would be astronomical. We assume a 4:1 ratio of scum meaning we have 5 scums this game, Now by the way the PM was worded, I'm going to go under the premise of a 5 man scum game meaning there would be a 5/19 chance I roll scum and for Pine a 4/18 chance he's scum.

After multiplying by 100 to give us percent, we get

0.006475749% chance that all of this has occurred so Pine and I could use that as scum theatre.

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Spoiler:

Nice, using Pine's alignment in your previous games as basis for you 2 not being scum together. That's great logic there

Btw, did anyone check the forums Debi linked to see if their games are usually 10v9?

Seems irrelevant. Looks like 10 and 9 are numbers picked because there are 2 factions and Debi split the players in half. There's no way any site would be running 10town:9scum, that's D1 LyLo.

I'm not making any arguements against anyone because quite frankly I'm not attempting to push for a specific lynch at the moment.

Okay so if you're not pushing a lynch why are you voting Creature? This doesn't look RVS

Good points Pine!
VOTE: Creature

VOTE: Alisae

FoS:Wraith

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^spoilered per player request - nested spoilers don't work so I had to break it up into three spoiler= tags

So I don't accidentally shoot a town PR. Though people would probably have picked up on my soft claim.

[The Rebbe]

Sorry, didn't mean to quote all of that.

@MOD: Can you please erase that big quote wall or at least hide it under a spoiler tag?

[The Rebbe]

Why is that?

I have a bad habit of claiming prematurely. I just don't want to hit a town PR by accident.

[The Rebbe]

Considering that my predecessor vigged one scumfuck, I don't see why the vig is being a detriment to town.

[The Rebbe]

I've only played as a vigilante once, and that was on a now defunct website. My style as a vig is to vig those who I see as either being lynch bait or the player with the second biggest wagon at the end of the day.

[The Rebbe]

I'm not vigging you tonight.

[The Rebbe]

How hillarious would it be if the mod was just making us think it was multiball?

I've seen moderators do that before. That might actually explain why there was only one kill last night. I don't think both scum teams would accurately role block each other.

[The Rebbe]

Any smart protective would but I wouldn't expect you to understand

I take this as a soft claim. Care to share any important results from last night?

[The Rebbe]

I'm not up for lynching zach.

If Zach is scum, then this is probably scum as well. A meta read on dunnestral shows that he does not like to bus his partner and often defends him.

Off to bed. I'll post tomorrow.

[The Rebbe]

Dreal: Cut it out. You are entering policy vig territory.

[The Rebbe]

wouldn't mind policy lynching drealmerz

I would rather vig him than waste a day policy lynching.

[The Rebbe]

I don't consider it policy. I seriously think he is scum and a huge threat.

I also think he's scum. My problem with him is his erratic posting and his erratic tone. He's impossible to read.

[The Rebbe]

Reading through now. I really do not buy Creature's vig claim.

@Creature: Did you shoot last night? If so, who did you target?

If this game is mb and there are 2 vigs (I highly doubt it) why was there only one kill last night? I think creature is bullshitting.

[The Rebbe]

VOTE: Wraith

I'll take care of either echo or ssbm tonight.

[The Rebbe]

VOTE: Wraith

I'll take care of either echo or ssbm tonight.

Are you saying you're full vig?

Yes. I'm unlimited shot full vig.

[The Rebbe]

@Creature: Let's coordinate tonight. Who are you vigging?

[The Rebbe]

@Creature: You shoot Slick. He has done nothing this game. I have a higher post count despite replacing in half way through day 2. I am going to shoot ssbm tonight.

I agree that the doc needs to stay on Severa.

I am not finished reading the game, but should be finished by day 3. I'll post my notes then.

[The Rebbe]

I can do that. If we don't lynch him day 3, I'll vig him night 3.

[The Rebbe]

If he flips town, I'm vigging you tonight.

[The Rebbe]

Rebbe

If Wraith flips cop, who shoots who?

You shoot severa