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Sure, I'll do that right after I get through all the pages.In post 1261, Alisae wrote:Clumsy fun assignment. Go ISO your previous slot hold and gimmie your read on them.-
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In post 808, Jaack wrote:I've mostly been focusing on a couple of slots, so I want to get my thoughts on everyone to make sure I'm not forgetting about people. If you want more elaboration, I can do it.
Actual Town:
Alisae - There have been a lot of votes camped out here all game, but like no case, at least not in a while. I haven't seen anything to make me feel Alisae could be scum - feels relatively productive, asking good questions. I'm guessing that some people (who are more like to be scum than average) are just camped out there because there's no strong alternative.
ironstove - Feels like a mislynch just waiting to happen. I'm more basing this read on how many people on the scummier side of things kind of popped up with opinions on a slot that hasn't done enough to get lynched this early. But I'm not getting any scumbuzzes from anything.
Transcend - Good balance of doing things and not being overly serious.
Done nothing to make me feel that they are scum and thus town for now, but still no strong feels:
ConManMick - I kinda get why people are scumreading this, but I don't feel like it's scum. I think the gerry vote is bad, but I don't think it looks super scum motivated with a decent amount of people hard townreading gerry.
dreamerz7 - Kinda disappeared as of late. Gut scumread on transcend seems unliklely to come from scum. Kinda not doing much, but that seems more to be his MO than anything.
gerryoat - I feel like his early confusion about it being multiball is probably genuine. Doesn't look like a faketownslip to me. I'm not getting that strong of townfeels here, but I never read anything that looks like scum to me, and his general attitude comes across more townie than not
Indigo - Start of the game was good and fine, but hasn't done enough to make me feel too strongly. Could easily move up.
kuror - His scumread and progression on gerry seem reasonable enough to me. Another one that could easily move up with more to work with.
Done to little for me to care all that much, probably a scum or two hiding out in here:
Gamma Emerald - A lot of nothing. His vote on me was blah, 355 was worse than blah but not that bad, but has mostly posted garbage, especially in the memetacular first 15 pages.
Lemon Tree - Has affected this game about as much as the breeze through, well, a Lemon Tree.
PenguinPower - If this is the power of penguins, then Antarctica is doomed.
PeregrineV - My gut reaction is town, but I can't really substantiate that in anyway, and there's not enough for me to feel confident in placing him any higher.
Pine - A player in this game.
Mixed Feeling Scum that I probably would be willing to lynch, but would prefer other options:
BigYoshiFan - I kinda get a gut townread from some of his posts which is why he isn't lower, but I feel like he's kind of been following the hip reads at the time. As I said before (I think) his pursuit of Pepcho looked like someone trying to make everything look scummy as opposed to someone trying to find scum.
Pepchoninga - On the one hand, I feel like a lot of the reasons people are scumreading this are bad and scum are trying to take advantage of him (see the person directly above). On the other hand, I have some significant reservations with how he's played. I wouldn't be shocked to see this flip either way.
TurboScum need rope:
Manuel87 - As I said before, I didn't like some of his back and forth with pepcho. I think there is a decent amount of reaching in his case on gerry, as if he's trying to justify it after the fact. I also think its fairly strange to townread PeregrineV like he did in 774 (the guy hasn't done enough to single him out as a townread), but I can't really put my finger on why that would help Manuel as scum. Just something to note for later.
Ramcius - Still don't like his Alisae read from earlier. 789 feels like overly combatitve scum. He's also just been camping out on the alisae wagon but failing to put any effort into pushing it (despite being around and pushing other players). Feels like scum who can't come up with a good excuse to move their vote.
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VOTE: Manuel87
Equally willing to vote Ramcius, but I feel there is more traction here.
@Manuel - Explain to me your Peregrine read from 774.
Jesus my predecessor is a scum-fuck. >_< A little over half way done. I hate catch-ups.In post 809, gerryoat wrote:
someone tell me if they agree or not and whyIn post 795, gerryoat wrote:
Let me break down why manuel might be scumIn post 774, Manuel87 wrote:This is where i am at right now.
Scum:
gerryoat, Gamma Emerald, Pepchoninga
1.) his first scumread is me, and I was a polerazing slot this so far because of the fact i drew a lot of attention from the fake shot thing (that wasnt even my idea lol). I think he saw this as an opportunity to out a safe SR on me. Since there was just a recent spotlight on me, i'm a safe first scumread.
2.) His second scumread is Gamma, who hasnt talked in 2 days I believe. This is another safe scumread because not only is he not here to defend himself, but he can just say he thought that gamma is lurking right now. Since this is a the lurker, it makes it a good middle scumread.
3.) His third scumread is Pep. Who is looking more and more like lynchbait. If you see the amount of pressure and votes that have been piling up on pep, I think that he thought this was a safe last scumread just to throw in at the end, because since others scumread him, he won't be questioned much on it.
All in all, i think these scumreads are artificially and carefully crafted as scum.
VOTE: Manuel
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A lot of Alisae's posts around 600-700 look good on the surface, but something is rubbing me wrong there. Feels like scum trying to look like they're game solving, but asking questions that don't lead anywhere or can just be used to throw shade.
These are the ones that I'm talking about:
Spoiler: Trying to keep things neat
Spoiler: Part 3
My reads as of right now, town up top:
{ConManMick, Manuel87}
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{drealmerz7, PeregrineV, kuror0, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Lemon Tree}
{Transcend, Alisae}
{Pepchoninga, BigYoshiFan}
{ironstove}
A lot of these are pretty close tiers, not huge jumps in between.
Peregrine's posts are really scarce. Is this normal for him?
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In post 1384, Transcend wrote:
That's an enormous and terrible null pool btwIn post 1377, Clumsy wrote:{drealmerz7, PeregrineV, kuror0, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Lemon Tree}
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Pst, Alisae. Is "Mack" here, ConManMick? Asking for clarity here.
p-edit: That's niceIn post 902, Alisae wrote:Hmm, it might be a possibility that Kuror0 and Mack are paired, maybe even with Manuel.
Garry says that Kuror0 misreps him and Mack instantly jumps on Garry for misrepping.
Not to mention I say something about misrepresentation and he answers that when it was directed towards Mack, which also seems wierd. I don't think Kuror0 had any reason to answer my quesiton so him suddenly answering it seems wierd.
Also what I find wierd is that Manuel never interacted with Garry and he thinks that Garry is scum until Manuel gives a case on Garry.
So yeah, I'll be adding a body to the Mack wagon and maybe a flip will help me sorta understand what happened there.
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Thanks.
While some of your reads are just plain wrong, why the hell is Ramicus on the town side of things? I don't think there's been anything there to warrant that, unless you just think that it's mislynch bait?In post 872, Transcend wrote:Alright, more rainbows.
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{BigYoshiFan, Indigo, Pepchoninga, Pine}
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{Gamma Emerald, Jaack, PeregrineV}
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{Alisae, PenguinPower}
{ConManMick, Manuel87}
I want one of my reds to hang, and I want my orange and yellow reads to advance their thought processes a bit.
I don't get why Transcend is in this. What is your reasoning for Transcend being town at this point in the thread Pine? Also, is this still your version of this townbloc?In post 908, Pine wrote:Trying to decide. No worries, that was a Townish response.
I hereby declare the founding of a Townbloc. Transcend, Alisae, Pine.
I like this post. I haven't gone and looked at what you're saying in that game, because I have enough to do right now, but I might after I'm all done here. Maybe.In post 951, PeregrineV wrote:
My primary reason for not scumreading gerry at this point is we just finished Wordplay Mafia, where he was town and had similar posting style.In post 930, Manuel87 wrote:
So you asked me for my scumread on you.In post 910, gerryoat wrote:i'm ok with the mick wagon i guess. but i think manuel is more scummy. mick was drunk when he made those awful posts so it makes me wanna give him the benefit of the doubt
I gave my reasoning and have yet to see anyone that is defending you to argue about the points i made.
The best i got so far is " I think there is a decent amount of reaching in his case on gerry"
But that statement is just a way to devalue my points without arguing about them.
I have played 2 games with town!Gamma and in neither he was inactive. That can be because of RL so i wouldnt read him scum for that alone but on top of that the only posts he made when he was active were mostly unhelpful spam. For somebody with 52 posts thats quite an achievment. And i dont remember Gamma going that hard into unhelpful spam. In our last game together he even suggested replacing out because of the earlygame spam.In post 795, gerryoat wrote: 2.) His second scumread is Gamma, who hasnt talked in 2 days I believe. This is another safe scumread because not only is he not here to defend himself, but he can just say he thought that gamma is lurking right now. Since this is a the lurker, it makes it a good middle scumread.
3.) His third scumread is Pep. Who is looking more and more like lynchbait. If you see the amount of pressure and votes that have been piling up on pep, I think that he thought this was a safe last scumread just to throw in at the end, because since others scumread him, he won't be questioned much on it.
Pep tried to throw shade at me and i called him out for it so tell me how exactly i was using the arguments others made for my scumread? You say he is looking more and more like lynchbait. Doesnt that imply that you yourself think he is scummy? How do you come to the conclusion that he is lynchbait?
Btw you are trying way to hard to tell everyone that you are town. What is the reason to mention that every time you get a chance?
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In both games he goes to figure out Transcend's alignment. Turns out he was scum last game, and gerry called it, but otherwise he appears to be scumhunting in both this game and Wordplay.
Since this is day1, and I feel gerry can contribute more and better in future days, I have a townread on him for now, and am pretty much against his lynch. The person most likely to move me from that read today would be gerry.
I would like to hear about your Pepo scumread, and your drealmerz townread.
Exactly wrong, actually. Sorry.In post 908, Pine wrote: Could it possibly be so easy as Mick/Manuel/Ram?
Past post 1000, Transcend's posts are starting to look better.
{ConManMick, Manuel87}
{Jaack, Pine, GerryOat, PeregrineV}
{drealmerz7, kuror0, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, Transcend}
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{Pepchoninga, BigYoshiFan}
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(Some moved up from null, others moved up from null-scum, we're getting there though)
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Not sure what to do with Indigo/Elena yet.In post 908, Pine wrote:Trying to decide. No worries, that was a Townish response.
I hereby declare the founding of a Townbloc. Transcend, Alisae, Pine.
P-edit: Yeah, kinda just want to lay my head down on my desk at this point. zzz
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In post 1093, PeregrineV wrote:Reads by group, town at top
Manuel87
Ramcius
gerryoat
Alisae
BigYoshiFan
drealmerz7
Transcend
Pine
Jaack
Elena FisherIndigo
kuror0
Lemon Tree
PenguinPower
Gamma Emerald
ConManMick
Pepchoninga
ironstoveAgree with the top bit, but one question: Why vote Mick if he's not your lowest tier?
Ah okay. For what it's worth, I'm cool with voting Ironstove (at the point that I'm reading currently).In post 1104, PeregrineV wrote:Don't feel like leaving one vanity wagon for another at this point. No one else wants to vote Gamma or Ironstove, and I don't want 100 pages of PAGETOP!
I like the townbloc for the most part, but the scumbloc is wrong. I think at least 2 are in the inactives, and the rest are blending pretty well.In post 1119, Pine wrote:
I concur.In post 1110, Transcend wrote:Oh PeregrineV is town btw
Townbloc is Alisae, Transcend, Peregrine, Gerryoat, and Peregrine.
Scumbloc is Ramcius, Manuel, ConManMick.
Some games you win by scumhunting.
Some games you win by Townhunting.
This game? I might be both.
What's different about this drealmerz and the drealmerz in the game I modded?In post 1208, Pine wrote:Holy shit, drealmerz is in this?
*ISOs*
That's a scum ISO from drealmerz. I've been playing a lot with him, and I'm calling it. He joins the scumbloc.
Those are actually good townreads but I am worried about the reasoning.
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Good question. Let me finish reading, but I think that's my vote for now.In post 1238, gerryoat wrote:So. Many. People. Have. Iron. In. There. Top. Scum. Read. Yet. No. One. Will. Vote. Him. Why. Is. This?
What makes you so sure that Pep is lynch bait, but Iron isn't? I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I want to know your reasons.In post 1275, gerryoat wrote:Pep is lynch bait. Someone put a note on his back that says "LYNCH ME PLS xDDD"
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In post 1319, Transcend wrote:Pep is townPine, how do you feel about this?nvm you brought it up
To be quite frank, I'm tired of reading after 50 pages. My eyes were glazing over Elena's posts. I'll ISO that tomorrow maybe, get a better read there.
I'm bored of the white reads list.
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@Alisae, after reading through the game, if I look at it from a point of view as if my predecessor was a different player, I'd put them in my second to bottom tier. I'm fine with lynching any from the bottom 2. If you want me to do an actual ISO here, let me know, but my general opinion is that Ramcius looked scummy as hell. I know that it was just bad play, but that would be my objective read on it.
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What I have on you is mostly gut and what I pointed out that you (obviously noticed). It's a small read and very subject to change. Think null-null-scum.
This unvote tingled the sensors. Seemed very strange and awkward, like you were hopping off of someone who you knew was town, and thought the wagon going on them could come to fruition. Just kind of a gut thing though. I rely a lot on that early game.In post 704, Alisae wrote:UNVOTE:
Pep is now just coming off to me as a misunderstood townie who's most likely just writing his thoughts in a stream of consciousness and I think he would be a bit more careful about what he says. That's how his blatant contradiction reads to me.
Honestly though, I pointed out any posts that stood out to me in my big posts. Did you read through all that?
P-edit: I'm not pushing you for a lynch today or anything Alisae. Just an early game edge on reads.
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Can't sleep. Work in 7 hours. Ugh. Gonna do some low effort required things, I'll still get to the big things tomorrow or sometime.
Bad phrasing on my part. I'm saying he's right about those reads. Sorry for confusion.In post 1448, Pepchoninga wrote: Here is another thing. You just said that Ram was a scumfuck the whole day 1 before you replaced him. That would mean that you agree behind the reasoning of people who SR Ram. Yet now you say that you agree with Peregrive's top town reads and well they include Ram. This seems like a minor contradiction, but it has big meaning to the fact that you should never just frame you predecessor, so you can try and look towny.
Pepchoninga wrote:Another thing I found interesting about Clumsy. (Won't be providing quotes, but if needed, will do.)
He asks Trans I think, why he think I'm lynchbait but not iron. This means he belives that iron is lynchbait. Yet a few posts late he VOTES iron.
Minor contradiction with BIG meaning.
I'm asking that question to see what they think is different between the two. I even point out that I don't necessarily agree or disagree, I'm picking their brain. Nowhere did I say that I think Iron is lynchbait. If I thought someone was lynchbait, they wouldn't be on the bottom of my readlists. Don't misrep me.In post 1411, Clumsy wrote: What makes you so sure that Pep is lynch bait, but Iron isn't? I'm not saying I disagree with you, but I want to know your reasons.
Might have a point here. I'll keep that in mind when rereading this slot.In post 1459, Pepchoninga wrote:
I dislike this. Hopping back on a wagon that she was in before she voted me. Tho after seing that he push on me was weak and didn't get any attention and she knew she's not getting me lynched, she again hops on iron.In post 1415, Elena Fisher wrote:Pep's last post was really good and a lot of people wanting to lynch him makes me go to paranoia city
VOTE: Iron
Let's make this wagon take off
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Is that because of Ram, or because of me?In post 1439, BigYoshiFan wrote:Idc as long as he's not at L-1 where someone can lolhammer him.
I like everyone on the wagon except Clumsy, but that could easily change when he responds tomorrow.
Well the shut up was unnecessarily rude. Is your scumread a remnant of the slot, or do you take issue with the new occupant?In post 1436, Pine wrote: @Clumsy 1398 - Not quoting and snipping that long fucker of a post. Transcend is super obvTown. Shut up unless it is to scumhunt the other team or tell us yours.
In this game? Entirely. This is me in Strahd. Transcend is my Andrius, Alisae is Sly, and regrettably, you replaced Dunnstral.In post 1405, Clumsy wrote:Pine, how much can I trust you?WHAT. Disagree. Stop it. You were on board a bit ago.
Yoshi: Happy birthday. I hope you have a good one.
I will still do this in more detail at some point in the very near future. Short versions: I believe the Ironstove wagon is pretty explained by everything going on above, and that's pretty much the gist of mine too. Mick and Manuel have had a very rough start in this game, but I am confident in my townread of them for reasons I can't talk about right now. For you, it's a bit of an odd read because I agree with most of your reads, but I can't shake this feeling that you're hunting scum as a member of the opposite scum team. But I've never done a large game before, or even read one, so I'm kind of going on instinct for how all that works. The interaction between you and Alisae around 670ish really seems off for me, on your side.In post 1432, BigYoshiFan wrote:Hey Clumsy, when you get some time, could you give me your reasoning behind your reads on me, ironstove, ConManMick, and Manuel? Reading through your catch-up, I'm not satisfied with how you've explained these reads.
Question for you, what is your progression from this:
In post 666, BigYoshiFan wrote:
Multiball is one reason.In post 663, Alisae wrote:But Yoshi you like how I'm pushing Pep yet you scumread me.
I mean, I understand this is multiball, but that's just weird.
Your uncharacteristic and poorly-evidenced defense of gerry is another.
This being early in the game (so my reads could all be wack and Pep could be town) is another.In post 668, Alisae wrote:Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?
to this:In post 671, BigYoshiFan wrote:
I don't know, because you're scum and don't wanna believe it?In post 668, Alisae wrote:Yoshi why do I feel like your read on me is complete bullshit?
Putting Alisae above the null line? I didn't where a shift in your read came from, but it is 3 A.M. here and I should be asleep.In post 1235, BigYoshiFan wrote:{Transcend, Gerryoat}
{Elena Fisher, Pine}
{Jaack, PV, Alisae}
{LemonTree, drealmerz7, Gamma Emerald, Ramcius/Clumsy}
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{Manuel87, kuror0}
{ConManMick, ironstove, Pepchoninga}
I stole your rainbow reads Transcend. XD-
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I like the pressure, but I want more interaction before a lynch decision.In post 1482, Transcend wrote:The iron lynch owns-
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This lynch isn't going to happen. Either Ironstove or someone else.In post 1570, Transcend wrote:I like that we got a larger wagon but I only voted to see his reaction. I still think he's probably a mislynch, and I'd much rather.
VOTE: Mick-
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In post 1579, Pepchoninga wrote:
Who are you suggesting should be lynched then.In post 1577, Clumsy wrote:
This lynch isn't going to happen. Either Ironstove or someone else.In post 1570, Transcend wrote:I like that we got a larger wagon but I only voted to see his reaction. I still think he's probably a mislynch, and I'd much rather.
VOTE: Mick
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Oh man, I wonder if that had to do with me playing catchup a little at a time, and not wanting to place a vote that affects the current gamestate while I'm reading the past gamestate. Just a thought though. :PIn post 1597, Fro99er wrote:Iron wagon is scum motivated and clumsy' seas the grossest. Especially after listing iron as his top scumread several times before finally voting him with a half-assed sense of care of doing so
Just got off work, need to read the newest pages.
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In post 1688, gerryoat wrote:Clumsy and Fro99er fight to the death
Finally home. Ready to test my might. First though,1 quick question to everyone on the playerlist: What is your read on Pine?-
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In what way was it the grossest? The fact that I had him scumread through most if not all of my catch up? How after I decided on reads for most of the (active) playlist, he was at the bottom so I voted him? How dare I hold my vote until I'm caught up to the present game. :PIn post 1597, Fro99er wrote:Iron wagon is scum motivated and clumsy' seas the grossest. Especially after listing iron as his top scumread several times before finally voting him with a half-assed sense of care of doing so
I was asked to give my thoughts about my predescessor. There they are. They played horribly and put me in a horrible position to try to salvage this slot. I was expecting to get a red PM, and I was actually a little hoping for that, because I have more fun as Mafia. I was expecting that because I read a bit of the game before I got my PM, and based on how things were reading, I thought I would be picking up a scum PM. But if my honest thoughts are "wrong" to you, here's this.In post 1606, Fro99er wrote:
Scum reading your own slot?In post 1398, Clumsy wrote:While some of your reads are just plain wrong, why the hell is Ramicus on the town side of things? I don't think there's been anything there to warrant that, unless you just think that it's mislynch bait?
Eeeewww.
Now, hopefully you can feel better about that and I can actual play a realist game. Slot played like shit before I got here. I'm not saying I'm stupendously better, but I'm trying to work with a bad situation as best I can. Yes, if I wasn't playing this slot and Ram was still playing it, I'd be fine with voting him, from an outside perspective.My slot has played a perfectly good town game and no one should have scumread Ram at any point in the game. He obv towned so hard that everyone in the game simultaneously townread him, all the way until he replaced out. -rainbows-
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In other words...In post 1429, Clumsy wrote:What I have on you is mostly gut and what I pointed out that you (obviously noticed). It's a small read and very subject to change. Think null-null-scum
"I put you in my scum list because I didn't have a reason so i'll make it up as "gut" and weasel my way out of my fake scum read on you"In post 1622, Fro99er wrote:
Oh hell no. Explain why transcends posts are better. This just looks like "fit in with the crowd"In post 1398, Clumsy wrote:
Yeah no. Nice framework you got going on there though. It's a weak null-scum read. That's why it's between my null and null-scum tiers. How dare I express reads.
I don't get why Transcend is in this. What is your reasoning for Transcend being town at this point in the thread Pine? Also, is this still your version of this townbloc?In post 908, Pine wrote:Trying to decide. No worries, that was a Townish response.
I hereby declare the founding of a Townbloc. Transcend, Alisae, Pine.
**snip wall**
Past post 1000, Transcend's posts are starting to look better.
{ConManMick, Manuel87}
{Jaack, Pine, GerryOat, PeregrineV}
{drealmerz7, kuror0, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, Transcend}
{Alisae}
{Pepchoninga, BigYoshiFan}
{ironstove}
(Some moved up from null, others moved up from null-scum, we're getting there though)
13 pages to go.
If you can't see how Transcend's posts look better from this:
Spoiler: Before
to this:
Spoiler: After
then I don't think I can help you. Enjoy that wall btw. Now, after that point, there is still some shitposting in there, but the ratio isn't 9:1 shitposting to content anymore. It's closer to 1:1, which I'm guessing is normal for Transcend.-
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I don't like the interaction between Alisae and fro99er on p. 66. Looks fishy. I also don't like how easily the wagon shifted to my slot. Why was there so much resistance to voting Ironstove but none to my slot?
I feel like Pep is using this as a way to scumread me without looking like he's pushing attention elsewhere.
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No you ain't. I've asked multiple times for you to get on his wagon, considering all the points I made against the slot and my request to at least look at our interactions were mostly ignored. You instead opted for fake claims and bad reaction tests.In post 1627, Alisae wrote:
We've all been doing it...In post 1602, Pepchoninga wrote:
FINALLY SOMEONE AKNOWLEDGES HOW SCUMMY THE DUDE IS.In post 1596, Fro99er wrote:VOTE: clumsy
Been reading. This dude is scum
At the very least, clumsy and iron don't appear to be aligned (just ISO clumsy and you'll see what I mean)
We just haven't been voting there yet.
Although he might have a point here lol.
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The fact that all you've done this game is sheep isn't any less disgusting too. But I hate the Ram slot, so for now I think you are in the right direction.In post 1631, Alisae wrote:I know right, he's absolutely disgusting.In post 1655, Pepchoninga wrote:
Oh yeah, I like you even more now! All hail beer!In post 1633, Fro99er wrote:
Beer please.In post 1629, Alisae wrote:Here, let me get chu some tea.
/me gets you some tea.
Frogs like tea?
I like tea.In post 1660, Alisae wrote:
You're underaged.In post 1655, Pepchoninga wrote:
Oh yeah, I like you even more now! All hail beer!In post 1633, Fro99er wrote:
Beer please.In post 1629, Alisae wrote:Here, let me get chu some tea.
/me gets you some tea.
Frogs like tea?
I like tea.
Why is the beer one the only one you responded to?
Why? Again, not agreeing or disagreeing (Pep, looking at you here), but I want reasoning.In post 1657, Fro99er wrote:Jesus fuck pep is so scummy too
Again, how the hell is Ironstove avoiding being the major wagon right now? We had a lot of people on him, and it dissolved quickly and easily with not much input from him. Why is there so much resistance there?
I want everyone (or most of everyone that we can get that is) to give their read on Pine. I'll explain why later if I really have to, but I'd love to not have to. A lynch on my slot isn't going to happen. If it does, town has already lost to the scum teams.-
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Not even what I said. The wagon instantly shifted to me. It's currently bigger than Iron's wagon, despite Iron doing nothing to improve his spot. I don't like how easily Alisae went from 0-80 on me. I'm not going to do any more tonight, this game is frustrating me. This is why I like to play as scum. If people scum-read me, I'm not getting frustrated at it, it's just because they're right. As town it's infinitely more irritating.In post 1744, Fro99er wrote:
You're such a joker. Iron got to L-3. You're only at L-5 if I count correctlyIn post 1695, Clumsy wrote:I don't like the interaction between Alisae and fro99er on p. 66. Looks fishy. I also don't like how easily the wagon shifted to my slot. Why was there so much resistance to voting Ironstove but none to my slot?
Yoshi, I know you're waiting on me, but I'm really not in the mood to do any of this right now. I'll get back to you, apologies.
I can't read Fro99er right now, too frustrated at him to get a read based on logic. Alisae is slipping down the ladder for me.
Pep and Alisae are not on the same team as scum. If they were, they could easily hide under all of this drek going on currently.
Work tomorrow. MLK day. Will be tired. May or may not be here. Be back by Wednesday, and hopefully I won't want to throw my monitor at one of you.
P-edit: No I won't. At least, unless someone decides to LOL-hammer when I'm not here. And if that does happen, lynch with impunity.-
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That still doesn't address what I'm saying. But keep dancing around things and just trying to make me look bad. Can't wait to rub it in your face.In post 1828, Fro99er wrote:Spoiler: vote counts
Come on clumsy. Iron went from 2 to 7 in 150 posts.
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It's honest. Your plushy frog face is meh.In post 1838, Fro99er wrote:
This is so meh. So self awareIn post 1818, Clumsy wrote:This is why I like to play as scum. If people scum-read me, I'm not getting frustrated at it, it's just because they're right. As town it's infinitely more irritating.
P-edit: Where's my head-slamming wall? The RESISTANCE to voting IRONSTOVE even though so many people had him as a scum read, which was pointed out by someone else in the game, and when the votes FINALLY went on him, he came in and didn't do anything to make the slot better, and all the votes are coming onto a different wagon. It's called a counterwagon to scum, as Elena pointed out. Fuck's sake.-
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I'll do it later. Not in the mood. I'm going to go read Alisae's bedtime storybook post and going to sleep. Goodnight.In post 1818, Clumsy wrote: Yoshi, I know you're waiting on me, but I'm really not in the mood to do any of this right now. I'll get back to you, apologies.
I can't read Fro99er right now, too frustrated at him to get a read based on logic. Alisae is slipping down the ladder for me.
Pep and Alisae are not on the same team as scum. If they were, they could easily hide under all of this drek going on currently.
Work tomorrow. MLK day. Will be tired. May or may not be here. Be back by Wednesday, and hopefully I won't want to throw my monitor at one of you.
P-edit: No I won't. At least, unless someone decides to LOL-hammer when I'm not here. And if that does happen, lynch with impunity.-
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I'm glad I decided to check this before my promised Wednesday return. Did you guys want a hammer without claim? -_-
I'm close, -2 or 1 right now, so I'll claim before someone lolhammers. I'm a mason. And not one of these fake masons being tossed around, I'm a real fuckingvampiremason. The observant of you should know the masonry now, but if I have to full claim I will.
That said, town is not in control of things right now. I'm very sure at least one or two of the movers and shakers are scum.-
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Thanks. I'm going to either hang around a bit or just go back to sleep, but I'll be here in full either tomorrow or Wednesday ( and deliver on things promised). I've been frustrated at the game for a few different reasons and it's getting in the way of actually playing well. So hopefully I'll have a clear head then.-
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I don't like this by the way. If you guys thought my vote on Iron was lazy, what's this? Kuror0, what're all of your reads?In post 2256, kuror0 wrote:ok finally finished catching up. But for now I will just VOTE: clumsy
Many players are catching so we should have a nice end of the day, I have to sleep but tomorrow will post my list and ideas.-
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Dreal, if you agree, then if you're town you should be in here making a splash D1 instead of just sitting back.
I'm interested about Pine. Don't think not posting here is indicative. But someone is leading town around.
Yoshi's fake vote is towny I think. Iron's been better lately. -sigh- I need to reevaluate reads.
P- edit: try not to talk about it too much, scummies have earsies.-
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Yeah, kinda like that list. Is Gamma lower for a reason? I don't remember him a whole lot this game so far.
Dreal, you haven't really done much to get a higher read. I'm not much one to talk, but I've been participating.
Btw, I was asking everyone about Pine being town because I could have subtly told him my claim. Decided against it later though.
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In post 2318, Alisae wrote:Clum list your strongest TRs in order from strongest to weakest with the following people in mind:
Manuel, Mick, Elena.
Why ask this then?In post 2324, Alisae wrote:Trans I already found them. In fact I don't need to hunt for something that's in plain sight.-
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I think you might be right about that Transcend, but that's also anti-town to be voting a leading wagon that is at L-2 or L-1 or whatever it was and not reading the thread. I can see scum doing it to claim "I didn't see it, I wasn't reading, LOL", but I can see Iron -actually- not reading too. It's not helpful.-
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This is terrible. Stop pushing and fishing. I'm good with a lynch here too.In post 2338, Pepchoninga wrote:Ummmm, ok. Call me dumb or something, but why the mason claim now? Isn't just a very easy manipulative way tho? I'm just giving something ti think about.
Also if there is one mason, there should be another mason, right? If there is, please claim it.
I still don't belive that Clumsy is saying the truth. It seems like it's a desperate attempt to get pressure off. Also a very common one too.-
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In post 2318, Alisae wrote:Clum list your strongest TRs in order from strongest to weakest with the following people in mind:
Manuel, Mick, Elena.In post 2320, Alisae wrote:I meant only sorting those 3.In post 2324, Alisae wrote:Trans I already found them. In fact I don't need to hunt for something that's in plain sight.
-_- Why even ask the first one then? I know of exactly 1 reason to do so.In post 2340, Alisae wrote:Clums got to L-2 or L-1 or something like that.
And yes Masons are in pairs, but you can easily figure out who they are by looking at his ISO.-
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I think it's very scummy to keep pushing for the masonry to be outed. How do people not see this? It just makes a kill list for the two scum teams, and I can coordinate to help with the claim later. I have a target on my back now, which makes it easier for protectives. More targets makes it harder. Stop. Pushing. The. Masonry.-
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Does this read off for anyone else? I mean, he's right, but the phrasing here strikes me as odd.In post 2424, gerryoat wrote:
no he isnt. if he's actually mason,In post 2421, Pepchoninga wrote:
Clumsy is the lynch for today. Period.In post 2418, Fro99er wrote:
Calm DownIn post 2416, Pepchoninga wrote:
Do you really belive the mason claim?In post 2388, Fro99er wrote:catching up
so clumsy claims mason, pine is still gone but not forgotten
VOTE: pine
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I'm actually finding myself agreeing with the second part of this.
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You have no idea how much I wanted to tell you that I replaced Persivul. -_-Pine wrote:
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