Well, I thought the context in which he claimed wouldn't make sense for scum to do.
Claiming that his mason could be known by how he's interacted seemed towny.
Also, I think I might know the mason. Just a hunch, not sure.
So that's the reason you have? You sounded so much more sure
so why didn't you want to share the reason why if it's that benign.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2594 (isolation #201) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:06 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2591, gerryoat wrote:shot in the dark but gonna say the guy he just voted
I didn't ask you to answer
there's also more than 1 scum player in this game.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2596 (isolation #202) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:09 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2595, BigYoshiFan wrote:I didn't want sheep. I wanted to see how other people reacted to the claim, which I (probably) still haven't read yet.
so what do you make of Pine's comment about reasons to doubt the claim
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
you've barely mentioned pine all D1 and it's pinging my radar.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2599 (isolation #204) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:11 pm
Postby Fro99er »
And now it reads like you're afraid to give reactions to pine
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 1788, Alisae wrote:While I go dig and do #research
from what I heard, he does a lot more tunneling and posts a lot more.
Like he becomes a PL lynch basicly. I'll go get some games tho, but I think Pine might have some better examples since I think he played with drealmerz a bit more.
Well, I thought the context in which he claimed wouldn't make sense for scum to do.
Claiming that his mason could be known by how he's interacted seemed towny.
Also, I think I might know the mason. Just a hunch, not sure.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 488, ironstove wrote:If I was a vigi and I had 2 bullets and I was in a room with gerry, hitler, and stalin, I would shoot gerry twice.
In post 746, ironstove wrote:Do setups like this usually hit majority on D1? Anyway I hard claim not mafia. Remove your lynches.
In post 747, ironstove wrote:Haven't really been reading the game, I'm kinda low-effort towning it while there are this many players in the game because it's hard to formulate reads, but please continue posting and don't let me be a distraction.
These three posts stand out as not especially Town-motivated. I joined in the Iron wagon for three reasons - first, the above amounts to a weak scumread. Second, my TRs all/mostly were thinking the same thing. Third, a flashwagon can help pressure someone to react, which you did. My weak scumread is now a pretty lockscum read because you've reacted TERRIBLE to getting some votes on you. Seriously, Town just doesn't hyperobsess with arguing the minutia of their wagon, they fight it by acting Town. That weaksauce attack on Pep was a clear attempt to divert attention away from you. Your attempts to deflect suspicion back onto me, then to dismiss me as an idiot. Then continuing to hyperfocus on yourself.
Yeah, it all points to scum!Iron
Sorry, caught is caught.
Also, I think reads like this are hard to fake as scum. Even in multiball, when he refers to his TR's and who they read, diverting attention, and the flaws in his play, it just all reads to me as towny.
Yeah Yoshi is scum. That's super easy to fake as town, and if you were town you'd be more paranoid about this
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2605 (isolation #207) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:32 pm
Postby Fro99er »
It's super easy to fake a read as scum where your reasons are:
1. I had a slight scumread
2. My TRs are on my slight scumread
3. a flashwagon helps go!
then after the fact saying he reacted terribly to his wagon. Town can be defensive too and maybe that was just town!iron trying to scumhunt pep, but instead he just throws shade on a possible town!iron
this is super easy to fake as scum.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2617 (isolation #208) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:02 pm
Postby Fro99er »
ew to gerry's sheep
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
ISO him. I was scared to before cause i know he was bad. but how tf do you keep a vote the same through #5 post and not progress from anything at all
Right, but that's your only reason? And it's a reason Clumsy and Jaack have now brought up. You're literally sheeping and have no other case on dreal.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 2543, Clumsy wrote:Also, opinions on Dreal? Unhelpful town or scum hiding as that?
Thought he was maf one game and he was just really bad town, if that helps at all. so im scared to try and read that dude lol
In post 2588, gerryoat wrote:I think he might be maf, but again. i thought he was last time and i guess he's kinda similar. Soooooo.............................
I refuse to believe town's reads dont progress like that. At least last game when you were town, your reads were bad but they progressed a bit
This is a gross progression
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2628 (isolation #211) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:09 pm
Postby Fro99er »
Gerry can be Yoshi's scumbuddy. He's not even trying to figure out Yoshi. Just deferring to transcend and PV.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2629 (isolation #212) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:10 pm
Postby Fro99er »
He also wasn't trying to figure out dreal and then OMG DREAL IS DA SCUMZ BECAUSE NO READ PROGRESSION SO SHINY
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2632 (isolation #213) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:12 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2631, drealmerz7 wrote:would you like me to point out the entirety of the 2 scum teams?
is that helpful to anyone?
go for it
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2636 (isolation #214) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:18 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2634, gerryoat wrote:honestly idc what you think right now because if you can honestly look at dreal's iso and say that's okay, then you're maf or shit
So you think I'm maf, because I'm pretty fucking good at town. Got it.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2639 (isolation #215) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:21 pm
Postby Fro99er »
Actually, that's not defensive at all. That's me pointing out you think I'm mafia.
That wasn't a defense of myself
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2640 (isolation #216) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:22 pm
Postby Fro99er »
I'll also have the last laugh when i'm right about you and yoshi
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
Then why was Yoshi one of your stronger town reads here?
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
Do not bring outside influences into the game - this includes threats, bribes, wagers, promises, "trust tells", alliances, etc. Using knowledge from previous games is perfectly acceptable, but try not to carry grudges from one game to another.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
LOL no we aren't. That makes ZERO sense from a balance perspective unless town is jacked up with power and scum teams are all goons.
I would know. I ran an 18 person large normal and it was 13 v 3 v 2
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2651 (isolation #220) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:29 pm
Postby Fro99er »
dreal might be scum opposite Gerry. That's a fake town-slip by dreal
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 2651, Fro99er wrote:dreal might be scum opposite Gerry. That's a fake town-slip by dreal
THEN WHY ARE YOU ARGUING ABOUT ME VOTING DREAL. VOTE DREAL.
Because this is multiball and you're opposite dreal if dreal is scum.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
He didn't say 8 of you were mafia, he listed it as a possibility.
And 5 is possible too...I created a 13 v 3 v 2 as I said.
Why you're fixated on 8 is dumb, but 8 would never get approved here.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
I mean, it could be a fake town-slip by transcend.
At this point its not worth speculating about, but I'm quite positive it's not 8 because the NRG wouldn't allow it
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2675 (isolation #224) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:39 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2670, gerryoat wrote:can you stop ignoring my question. Can you show me what from his iso that made my vote bad, or what you think from his iso is good at all? I asked 4 times already
nothing from his iso made yoru vote bad.
Your shitty progression on dreal made your vote bad.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2677 (isolation #225) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:41 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2664, Clumsy wrote:Then why were you so hesitant to read Dreal if you think it's this obvious?
@Gerry
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2684 (isolation #226) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:44 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2678, gerryoat wrote:YOU SAY. HE'S MAF. BUT SAY. IM BAD. FOR VOTING HIM. LOL. WHAT.
you don't understand the concept of multiball do you.
you also don't understand why your vote is bad.
I also am not sure if dreal is maf.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2686 (isolation #227) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:45 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2683, drealmerz7 wrote:frogger...you get HUGE scumpings btw for your suggestion of odd teams
I'm suggesting odd teams...I was using it as an example to show why 4 v 4 makes absolutely zero sense. Nowhere did I suggest 13 v 3 v 2 was the setup here.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2697 (isolation #228) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:51 pm
Postby Fro99er »
1. Yoshi
2. Gerry
3. Pine
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
FROGGER FOR THE 5TH TIME, CAN YOU FIND ANYTHING IN DREAL'S ISO THAT SHOULD MAKE ME RECONSIDER MY READ ON HIM. YES OR NO
I already answered this.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2704 (isolation #230) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:54 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2700, gerryoat wrote:Frogger, so is your read on me dependent on the fact that you think i'm buddies with yoshi? or is there another reason you fos me.
I think you're scum
1. for your shitty progression on dreal where you first didn't take a stance on him, then said he could be scum, then said he's obvscum., which I already pointed out and
2. for your lack of a stance on Yoshi except deferring to Transcend and PV. Like, you're not even trying to sort Yoshi right now and that's not good.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2712 (isolation #231) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:06 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2709, gerryoat wrote:Is there any other reason? I'm less triggered now lol
no other reasons right now
now vote Yoshi pls since you're not opposed to a Yoshi vote.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2740 (isolation #232) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:29 pm
Postby Fro99er »
I want to hear Pine's reason for doubting the mason claim.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
Tell me what is different about it and I'll look and see if that's the case
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2753 (isolation #234) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:18 pm
Postby Fro99er »
I mean. Fuck it. Dreal vote parked on transcend all D1 in that game. So why does it make him scum he vote parked here all D1?
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2754 (isolation #235) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:22 pm
Postby Fro99er »
Like that was Gerey's main reason for Dreal and Dreal did here exactly what he did in that town game
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2758 (isolation #236) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:27 pm
Postby Fro99er »
He gave a reason for his Alisae vote here and he didn't feel a need to move it after that
You're really reaching now.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
I refuse to believe town's reads dont progress like that. At least last game when you were town, your reads were bad but they progressed a bit
Gerry this was your reason for voting him
I'm pointing out your reason is flawed because the town game you gave an example of his D1 read didn't progress.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2768 (isolation #238) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:36 pm
Postby Fro99er »
And it is lazy to make that the reason you voted for him after previously you said you were unsure. Now you're acting like you are sure that it's not his towngame and if that's the case why didn't you notice it before and why are you changing the reason from "his reads didn't progress" to "he gave bad reasons here but good reasons there for vote parking"
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
If he wasn't your biggest scum read why did you vote him and get so upset and ALL CAPS about him
And if he isn't your biggest scum read who is and why aren't you voting that person?
Because you've admitted Yoshi isn't your highest scum read.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
Gerry is mistaking me attacking his logic for me defending dreal
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2780 (isolation #241) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:42 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2773, gerryoat wrote:Frogger why is it that you're defending him and you're not letting him defend himself?
In post 2774, drealmerz7 wrote:and I seem scummy because I'm not behaving like I behaved in 1 game we were in together where I was town
that is horrible
Yeah. Meta shouldn't be the entirety of one's case. Good point. Another reason Gerry's sudden OMG HES SCUMZ push is so bad after being unsure.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
I refuse to believe town's reads dont progress like that. At least last game when you were town, your reads were bad but they progressed a bit
This was your argument at the time of your vote. It's only meta
Prior to that you were admittedly unsure.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
If he wasn't your biggest scum read why did you vote him and get so upset and ALL CAPS about him
And if he isn't your biggest scum read who is and why aren't you voting that person?
Because you've admitted Yoshi isn't your highest scum read.
Answer
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2786 (isolation #244) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:46 pm
Postby Fro99er »
I think I'd rather wagon Gerry than Yoshi at this point.
1. Gerry
2. Yoshi
3. Pine
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
I didn't want to do this, but you've annoyed me enough. If I was shit please tell me how I won best town performance in a game where I was the guy who drove the scum lynches in a perfect win.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2804 (isolation #249) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:11 pm
Postby Fro99er »
@Gerry what happened to Manuel? And where am i on your hierarchy?
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2809 (isolation #251) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:17 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2807, gerryoat wrote:i also dont like how you scumread and said dreal scumslipped, but dont even put him in your lynch pool. that's weird
What?
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2811 (isolation #252) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:24 pm
Postby Fro99er »
Right. But why are you saying he isn't in my lynch pool?
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
In post 2811, Fro99er wrote:Right. But why are you saying he isn't in my lynch pool?
You listed Me, Yoshi and pine. How is someone you think fake town slipped not on it?
Because we were asked to list only 3 people.
Dreal isn't in my top 3
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2817 (isolation #254) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:36 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2692, ironstove wrote:Ok, I have a suggestion because this game is going nowhere.
I would like everyone to post their top 3 players that they would like to vote for.
We will cross reference the results and find a lynch. If this game goes to 150+ pages before a lynch is made on D1, I'm gonna request to be replaced and laugh at the person that has to fill my slot.
1. Alisae
2. Pine
3. Elena Fisher
Gerry this is why I listed three.
Nowhere did I say those were my only three. Obviously there are more than 3 scum in an 18 person game.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
Everything. It's in my ISO plus Pine's scumteam is lolbad
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2828 (isolation #256) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:21 pm
Postby Fro99er »
Facepalm
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2833 (isolation #257) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:26 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2829, Alisae wrote:pedit: Frogger I don't think Mick was attempting to copy down someone's homework, but ok.
I never said he did?
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2839 (isolation #258) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:29 pm
Postby Fro99er »
In post 2837, Alisae wrote:pedit: Oh to me it looked you did cause you told him to get his own reads.
Read again. That was Yoshi
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2840 (isolation #259) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:29 pm
Postby Fro99er »
Then Yoshinrwalized what was up and gave that up
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post #2841 (isolation #260) » Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:30 pm
Postby Fro99er »
Yoshi is scum
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend