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Holy fucking shit thank you guys for writing an entire essay for me to come back to. Romeo and Juliet is shorter than this ffs. Gone for like 4 hours and you guys add 7 damn pages...
Anyways, this whole math thing was a complete waste of time. There wasn't any need for it in the beginning, and there still isn't a place for it. I'm not getting a complete scum read on Debi just yet, as the stupid ratios just seemed like a bit of an error. Also, the only read I'm getting on Gin is that he needs to change his tie color.
before i start, again, fuck math.In post 119, Wraith wrote:
I agree. Assuming 9 scum right off the bat implies foreknowledge of the setup, which in this case means scum. It's also such an absurd ratio that it would have to mean multiball.In post 106, Ircher wrote:
And, the reason for this totally useless nonsense is _____?In post 86, Debi wrote:TheRealGin-N-Tonic, there is something I'm failing to understand to do with your current actions in the round. You have voted to lynch Pine, which is all well and done, at this point in the game, 99% of the votes, won't have any ulterior motive behind them whatsoever, which is fine, if you don't have any main reason to be voting for Pine. However, you have currently created a contradiction, when trying to prove that your vote on Pine is legit, and has reasoning. The main problem with it, is as below:
You are claiming that it is very unlikely, for both you and Pine to both be scum in the same game, however the roles are chosen randomly, and I believe in a random order. So just for the sake of it, lets say we had 10 towns in this game, and 9 scum, it is unlikely but go with it. If Pine was first to get a role, then you, there'd still be a high chance of you both being scum:In post 60, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:It might be one-sided on Pine's side considering he's only made one post showing he's online but stopped saying anything afterwards, however on my end, to give you context to the vote, I recently played a game as an IC and Pine had day talk as scum and manipulated me throughout the game till I sided with him in LyLo and lost the game for town and said I'd vote Pine every game we play together that has daytalk.
I'd love to be able to tell mods in advance what roles to give Pine and I but the likelihood of me playing a game with Pine and I on opposite factions to set up a grudge vote scum theatre just for this game IF we both happened to roll scum would be a god like miracle. However, as much as I wish that was actually true, it is literally a close to impossible scenario, ergo the most logical conclusion is to not treat it as such and wait for more substance throughout the thread before you think you honestly caught 2/X scums when you're already wrong about at least 1 of them.
For Pine to be Scum: 9/19
If Pine is Scum, For Gin to be scum: 8/18
Therefore, For both to be Scum: Roughly 21/100
So it wouldn't be a 'god like miracle', ever.
Also another thing, when voting for somebody, you might thing they are suspicious or whatever. Therefore I have a question for you. If you are wanting to vote Pine, and argue for the vote on Pine, why are you suggesting he might not be scum via the 'when you're already wrong about at least 1 of them'???
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4-5 scum is a more logical coonclusion for the scum ratio. 9 scum in a 19p NORMAL game has probably a 1 in a Million chance AT BEST. (Most likely, there is a 0 zero chance of that happening cuz that makes Day 1 LyLo and could still screw town w/ a perfect game if it's multiball)
4/19 * 3/18 = 12 / (152 + 190) = 12 / 342 = 4 / 114 = 2 / 57 or <4% chance.
VOTE: Debi
Vote: Debi
If Debi had knowledge of the setup, then why the hell would she say that there's 10 town and 9 maf? It's 99.9% impossible that that's the case, showing that Debi does NOT have knowledge of the setup. That right there raises red flags to me. You obviously hadn't went back over your reasoning. You were so quick to jump onto a vote that it spooks me a little bit.
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Also, what the hell is single/multiball?
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What's not a slip, what debi said about the 10:9 or whatever? Nah, that was just human error. Just her trying to prove her point. I've done the same kind of thing before. No scuminess behind it.In post 232, Alisae wrote:Echo are you saying it's not a slip in this case?-
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Grey, was that # good posting sarcasm or was it an actual good post? Also, I'm really not seeing all the scum read that everybody is getting from alisae. Most of his posts have just seemed like him fucking around. Not much of a scum read for me. Just kind of what he does. I know him off of site, which could be swaying my vote a little bit without me realizing, but I'm trying to be as un-biased as possible. Can somebody explain the scum read for me? I'll read it tomorrow morning cause it's bed time. g'nite fuckers-
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You said that Kyouko or Dunn are the scum that you read so far, but isn't your vote out for Wraith??In post 393, Alisae wrote:
Kyouko or/and DunnIn post 382, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:So, if there is scum on the wagon, who is it?
Never mind, you covered my question later. Still seems like a bit of a slip though.In post 463, Alisae wrote:
I'm tryng to lynch Wraith. He is my own scumread.In post 462, Pine wrote:From her position on the short end of a big wagon, this looks like appeasement. Town doesn't try to appease, they try to lynch their own readsWait what? Now you're voting Pine??? How the fuck did that happen???
In just your next post, you changed your vote? okay...
After being called out, you decide to change your vote again. I don't believe that as a town you should be this bipolar about your votes. Pick one. Pine, or Wraith.In post 474, Alisae wrote:Either way, I think your scum on my wagon, since you didn't want the other people to get a chance to post content.
And fine, I'll stick to my guns some more.
VOTE: Pine
Going to bed, if I get lynched, look at Pine and Wraith.
I'm starting to agree with a lynch on rb, although I'd much rather lynch wraith. I'm still only this far though, so we will see if anything changes.In post 485, -Grey- wrote:
What's the matter rb? Doing damage control to distract everyone from your hardcore distancing and hoping nobody else questions why you are moving heaven and earth to justify not voting your scumread?In post 478, rb wrote:Okay i want everyone to stop focussing on alisae right now because if she's scum she's dead. Parse the other slots too, anyone who just uselessly tunnels on alisae rn is getting the murdercock tomorrow
We need to lynch Alisae and then rb d2.
Although I'd be happy lynching rb first, too.
Okay so these last 7 acts of the play were kind of useless. Not much information IMO other than just a few posts.
Alisae is not playing intelligently. (if that's a word).
Wraith is still my top priority for a lynch. Right now, in an optimal situation I'd like to lynch Wraith d1 and then rb d2 and then alisae d3 if he doesn't die by then.
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Who is this directed at?In post 629, EchoVision wrote:Also, I don't understand what you see that's scummy about me. The reason that you said before about my "frustration on the 190218657 act fucking play" everybody else seemed to have taken for a town tell?-
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Its not that I didn't think I was in the right frame of mind, it's that I didn't want to puke on my computer because later that night I did end up puking numerous times. was going to hold these details back but I figured you'd like to know...In post 1390, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Out of all the slots, this is my favorite lurker slot to to go.
Look at his posts from Jan 3 till now and tell me that's not just making up excuses?
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Again, wasn't really bouncing to avoid discussion, was more bouncing to avoid getting sick all over my computer...In post 1424, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
IF Echo said he thought I was scum and did a FoS, then it would have been chill but you don't fucking prod dodge for 3 days and vote someone to put them at L-3 and then bounce to avoid discussion. If you're not able to think clearly, then you don't make decisions like that. I've already said this shit but now you're appealing to emotions saying "he doesn't even give the poor kid a chance." Seriously?In post 1421, Alisae wrote:I'll get back to Gin later, but one thing I don't like about Gin is that he immediately doesn't give Echo a chance to explain himself. To me it comes off as saying "I don't care about your justification."
Now if Echo were to come back and not post his reasoning behind the vote, fine, that's blatantly scummy.
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I'm sticking with gin for now because of everything that he said after I was talking about taking a break because of feeling sick.
In Gin's 1395 he comes after me saying how stupidly I'm playing, but I just don't understand what's so stupid? My vote on him? Let me ask you this gin, if I did that same thing that I had done before, where I came out of nowhere and put up a vote on someone else, like idk, Ircher (first person who came to mind) would you still have came after me telling me that it was stupid and voted for me? Or was that stuff just because the vote was on you?-
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Huh?In post 1552, EchoVision wrote:also forgot to mention alisae is one of my strong town reads right meow
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cause I fuckin said so guyIn post 1607, Alisae wrote:Echo still waiting for you to explain the TR on me. I got all day.-
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also meaning since I put a vote on you, you don't want me around to get you lynched...In post 1644, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:We need to just end D1 because I'm starting to become apathetic. We can bitch and moan about lynches all we want, I'm just starting to lose interest.
Honestly, I could do a reads list in depth but it won't truly matter until we get flips on players.
As of right now I'm vote parking on Echo and will make a case on him because out of all my scum reads, he's the one I want to make a case on.
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not sure how to word this but you're very aggressive about everyone trying to lynch you being a "fucking idiot". I feel like you're trying to go for that "genuine frustration town tell" but it's not working very well.In post 1646, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:You're not getting them so lynch away like a fucking idiot.-
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okay now you're just getting super pissed cause you're semi-close to lynch and you know he has a case on youIn post 1655, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I DON'T FUCKING NEED TO ASK YOU IF YOU HAD A CASE ALISAE. IF YOU HAVE ONE THEN FUCKING BRING IT UP.-
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just cause drealmerz is a scummy doo doo headIn post 1674, Alisae wrote:So you scumread me for...what reason again?-
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willing to lynch for no reason other than the fact that he's "a bad influence on the game"... that reason is a bad influence on the game gtfohIn post 1676, drealmerz7 wrote:you're nothing but a negative influence to the game
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difficult to make an actual case when you just sit there and lurk and don't read half the thread.In post 1684, drealmerz7 wrote:really? wow that is pathetic
there isn't even a case on me for me to defend against - I've been unenthused by the game, it's been clear, so I sit back and watch a bit and have not much to contribute until the shit stops piling up at an exponential rate
I've made less than a dozen posts or some shit, and a rising majority thinks I'm scum? absolutely pathetic, really
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maybe if you read and stopped lurkingIn post 1701, drealmerz7 wrote:I don't know
I don't have a good view of the game currently
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how is town ruining the game wtf I'm so lost... and I've actually read the game!In post 1736, drealmerz7 wrote:you don't even get it
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this needs to die people it is a HUGE liability if town (already destroying the game) and most likely just scum reveling in the fact that they're getting away with this scumtastic shit (destroying the game)
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1) fuck yeah I do he practically has the same reads as meIn post 1751, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I can sum up why the policy lynch is almost a necessity right now in a couple of questions.
1) Do you, as town, trust Alisae to make a good decision in LyLo, regardless if you are alive or not?
2) Do you, as town, believe Alisae's spam-like posting and OMGUS behaviour benefit the town more than it does harm it?
3) Do you, as town, believe that you can get a fair read on her by the end of the game and will be able to fairly judge if her slot is scum or not compared to an a scum slot?
If you can prove how Alisae's slot strengthen's the vitality of the town, then I'll back off, until then, I'm 100% confident that this lynch is actually the better path to go down.
2)its not really harming it so what's so bad about it, it's just getting you silly little scum fuckers upset
3) oml it's a he... Alisae is a fucking he... I've been clawing my eyes out every time someone calls HIM a she. Anyways, you even agreed he's town! in your previous post you legit said "alisae is one of my stronger town reads" so gtfoh
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says the guy who hasn't even read the fucking game... and you've been here since the start!In post 1754, drealmerz7 wrote:please read the game if you are going to replace in and have the power of a vote to decide the fate of our beloved town
or ya know, ISO the main wagons at least first
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I've got a leaning towards town read for you but it's stuff like this that confused the fuck out of me... There's no focus in all alone and I just don't get why you voted him. still reading, hopefully you stated a reason later on
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have you read the whole damn thread yetIn post 1860, drealmerz7 wrote:quit being lazy and making dumb plays-
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In post 1975, texcat wrote:
1) Really? Alisae has the same reads as you. Can you tell us what those are? Spell them out for me, cause as far as I can tell Alisae has had a scum read on every single person in the game at some point. Is that what you're agreeing with?In post 1949, EchoVision wrote:
1) fuck yeah I do he practically has the same reads as meIn post 1751, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I can sum up why the policy lynch is almost a necessity right now in a couple of questions.
1) Do you, as town, trust Alisae to make a good decision in LyLo, regardless if you are alive or not?
2) Do you, as town, believe Alisae's spam-like posting and OMGUS behaviour benefit the town more than it does harm it?
3) Do you, as town, believe that you can get a fair read on her by the end of the game and will be able to fairly judge if her slot is scum or not compared to an a scum slot?
If you can prove how Alisae's slot strengthen's the vitality of the town, then I'll back off, until then, I'm 100% confident that this lynch is actually the better path to go down.
2)its not really harming it so what's so bad about it, it's just getting you silly little scum fuckers upset
3) oml it's a he... Alisae is a fucking he... I've been clawing my eyes out every time someone calls HIM a she. Anyways, you even agreed he's town! in your previous post you legit said "alisae is one of my stronger town reads" so gtfoh
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oh whoops forgot my scum reads for ya taco cat
you (taco cat)
gin and toner (bad combo btw who would mix those)
wraith (kind of fallen off but he hasn't said much so idk about him anymore, mostly leaning scum)
drealmerz (wonder why)
and pine is kind of null right meow, haven't paid much attention to him. will do when we get one of you fuckers lynched <3-
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this is kind of giving me a scummy vibe oddly enough. to me, it feels like there's obvious people that he could vote for, but either they're his team mates, or he doesn't want to draw attention to himself by jumping on to a wagon
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but the thing is he's not anti-townIn post 2052, drealmerz7 wrote:
actually it is a pro-town move sometimes to remove an anti-town town player - that is the extent it has gotten toIn post 2049, Ircher wrote:
then you are game throwing.In post 1746, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:I'm leaning more town on Alisae but I'm policy lynching that fucking slot.
he's actually doing a pretty good job scum-hunting. I think we should get rid of an anti-town scum player like you. I'd vote you but I already have a vote out for you and don't wanna be a pain in the mod's ass-
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sir what the flying fuck monkeys are theseIn post 2166, Alisae wrote:Also let's do these
{Me, rb}
{HS, AA, Zach}
{Slick, Dunn, Creature, Drealmerz, Debi, UZI}
{Ircher, Titus, Kyouko (THIS DUDE DISSAPEARED), }
{Gin, Wraith}
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what about me? thought you were making your case against me now I'm not even on your sus list? okayIn post 2265, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:All Alone, HS, Zach, can't pick a 4th but prolly a lurker.
I'll self hammer at this point but lynch these slots lynched with fire after I'm dead.
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