New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Titus]

Ok, I'll unvote and see how this plays out. I agree Dunn, I haven't heard of a backup nurse. Maybe he's just saying backup nurse where he should be saying backup doc.

Unvote

Varsoon knows the difference. He means backup nurse.

Ok, have you seen a backup nurse before? I haven't.

No but it is legal.

[Titus]

Varsoon, you want to lynch Wake or podog?

[Titus]

Ok Varsoon... Got it. I just haven't seen it before so that throws me off.

That makes Varsoon likely town. I don't see Varsoon doing this as scum. Is it possible? Yes. I won't feel comfortable with Varsoon near lylo if that happens. But the manner in which he claimed is pretty townie.

The MOONLOGIC scenario is this was cooked up in scumchat.

[Titus]

I smell a rat.

Lynch either Dunnstral or Titus.

I am not entertaining this or similar with responses. Thread is bloated enough.

[Titus]

I smell a rat.

Lynch either Dunnstral or Titus.

I am not entertaining this or similar with responses. Thread is bloated enough.

Obviously quote the thing that isn't directed to you rather than the real accusations that are deserving of respect and a response. That's totally towny, right?

The accusation that I am scum does not by itself require a response every time my scumreads say it.

[Titus]

I don't see how we can essentially have 2 protective roles and 2 backup roles

If anything, there is no nurse and the backup nurse is just for the mafia neapolitan which seems likely actually

maybe mafia does have a traitor?

If there are two docs, backup nurse seems possible. Also, Varsoon's crumb is 100% believable.

You see what I mean now about mafia neapolitan being a garbage role for the scum team.

Yes, and they are informed of all the claims at start and all the claims are town.

VOTE: podog

[Titus]

I smell a rat.

Lynch either Dunnstral or Titus.

I am not entertaining this or similar with responses. Thread is bloated enough.

So in other words you don't want to engage with people who question you.

You don't get safe spaces in Mafia, kiddo.

Say something worth engaging to.

Future posts will be noted and marked spam, so you know just how much I do not care.

[Titus]

I don't see how we can essentially have 2 protective roles and 2 backup roles

If anything, there is no nurse and the backup nurse is just for the mafia neapolitan which seems likely actually

maybe mafia does have a traitor?

If there are two docs, backup nurse seems possible. Also, Varsoon's crumb is 100% believable.

You see what I mean now about mafia neapolitan being a garbage role for the scum team.

Yes, and they are informed of all the claims at start and all the claims are town.

VOTE: podog

We're playing the pronoun game I see? Who is "they?" What does that statement have to do with what I said?

Also:

I don't know why podoboq's name is so hard for people, it's symmetrical

Scum. You literally just supposed all the claims were true and scum would believe that, and that's a basis for saying scum Neopolitan is shit?

Sounds like you know all the claims are town.

[Titus]

I was Sheeping. Town has a too many leaders problem. Mirhawk can judge that as shit.

It's not rolefishing to ask if a role is possible in the least damaging way.

[Titus]

I was Sheeping. Town has a too many leaders problem. Mirhawk can judge that as shit.

It's not rolefishing to ask if a role is possible in the least damaging way.

These are both legit and understandable responses. People don't necessarily have to agree with them; town has a right to hear a response and an explanation. We shouldn't have to force that out of you.

I didn't explain anything other than Mirhawk is free to judge that. Which I did by staying silent.

[Titus]

Scum. You literally just supposed all the claims were true and scum would believe that, and that's a basis for saying scum Neopolitan is shit?

Sounds like you know all the claims are town.

1) We KNOW there was a town Macho.
2) I believe Varsoon, because the crumb makes sense, and I townread him before his soft claim, regardless of his backup nurse claim.
3) I am inclined to believe that beeboy is a Miller. It just makes sense to me
4) Other stuff I know which have not claimed confirms that there are more garbage roles for Mafia Neapolitan to sniff out.

Literally all four of those are things I've said previously. So you're either not reading, or you're just misrepping me intentionally.

it's not a misrep to accuse you of knowing too much.

[Titus]

@Wake, Yes. I asked someone to claim "I am an even or odd night role".

You know why there's issues. Some jackass cries Lynch Titus after every post.

[Titus]

Nah, how it works is scumhunting. Not spamming Wake.

When's the last time you tried to sort anyone?

[Titus]

Almost, I wouldn't mind voting PV but do you mind a podog/Wake vote? They are spamming to lynch me over and over after 7-10 people said no on lynching me and it's all they will talk about.

[Titus]

Wagon D1 recycle, here we go.

Zach/Dunn/Boem/Agar, agree on something good.

[Titus]

is titus cornered scum or just being ridiculous at this point?
thoughts?

Or annoyed that the same people who tried to mislynch wagon me failed didn't get the hint after Vedith flipped scum and I was a big part so they asked again, they were directly told NO and they wait and they still do a last minute push at deadline, based on the fact I cease responding to every inane mental fart.

That would piss anyone off.

[Titus]

Almost, that was sarcasm. I don't believe the mod told Almost50'about their roles. Scum would know a neopolitan's power based on their other roles. The Neopolitan is useless to scum sounds too smart by half.

[Titus]

if we are not lynching Wake/podog/k77, I don't mind PV.

[Titus]

because what moderator in their right mind would conceive of the idea of a backup nurse without a nurse

if they were going for something like that they would just put a nurse without a doctor or a deputy without a cop. Those are sort of standby choices (along with miller) for moderators looking to add a named townie to a setup. They wouldn't think of it.

Named townie is a thing.

VOTE: PV

[Titus]

(also, if there are any town-aligned killing roles other than Dunnstral, then my reasoning will change significantly and Mirhawk is somewhat likely scum again. But I'll cross that bridge if it comes up)

Not sure I follow

The likelihood that the mod put in a mafia even-night doc if the only town killing role is a 1-shot vig seems very low.
If there's also like, another 1-shot vig, or an even-night vig, or something like that, then it becomes more likely.

An even night doc is a fake if there's no even odd night anything else most likely. Is it certain? No.

[Titus]

It's most likely 2 with Varsoon as a named townie.

[Titus]

Good night.

[Titus]

At this point PeregrineV is probably the easiest, most consequence-less mislynch for mafia. He's atrocious. Flotsam. About only reason why I would consider voting him is his lazy vote on Mirhawk, but I also pushed for Mirhawk lynch so that wouldn't feel so good.

How about podoboq or kraska? She's been looking around for a nice mislynch since she subbed in.

I'm voting the largest out of those three. Podog is my favorite.

[Titus]

I would be fine with a Titus, Boem, or Dunnstral lynch today, with emphasis on the two former.

As with the Mirhawk wagon I don't feel confident in or trust the PV wagon, because again I'm seeing little to no resistance to it. Neither are going to get my support.

To be honest with you shannon I don't feel Varsoon's crumb was obvious: the post never pinged my gut.

Dunn, if you have another shot, please vig wake.

[Titus]

@Zach, Ok.

VOTE: Podog

At some point, you will need to reconsider that if Wake's so wrong this much, he's scum with a green pm or flat out scum. I get today is not the day. But you need to think about it.

[Titus]

@Boem, It's not. I spell by sound. I can't say his name. Given podog's behavior, I have no incentive to try. It's not like wrong gendering.

@Zach, Was wake on Vedith? He's pushing me you and Dunn? The spam needs to go.

[Titus]

1)

@Wake I have 0 experience with Titus but

2)

I've said about 89 times that for Titus to be scum, Dunnstral has to be as well and I don't believe that

1)

Holy shit. You don't know her like I do. She's VERY good at the game.

2)

Titus could be Scum and Dunn be Town, because Titus is smart and experienced and Dunnstral is Dunn.

Yeah, I am not God. This is terrible BoP strawman. Titus is obvtown... BUT SHE IS AWESOME AT SCUM.

Like really, you can tunnel me the entire game with that and provide no content or help to town.

Oh wait....that's what you're doing.

[Titus]

I never said you were obvTown Titus. I don't feel like you're your Townself this game, and I've held that opinion for quite some time now.

Yeah, you've discarded all my town actions because Titus is good at scum. Any action can be dismissed that way. At some point, you're going to have to fucking read me and stop spamming and engage other people when they tell you I am fucking town. Right now, if you're town, you're like the Homeless man yelling about evil lurking in every corner.

Shave that monstrous posting beard. Engage with people over why they think I am town AND their scumreads. Spamming wagon me every time a wagon fails will not cut it.

I absolutely have zero desire to repeat Gunslingers in a fucking large theme. None.

[Titus]

Podo according to VC you were already voting Titus? Was that vote for emphasis or did you just want to feel special?


I'm gonna need this Titus wagon to cease and desist

That Titus wagon is fueled by scum.

The PV wagon is fueled by town.

At some point, you're going to need to realize PV is Vedith recycled by different town players are playing different roles regarding the wagon pushes. Same with k77.

[Titus]

VOTE: PV

[Titus]

Yeah, you might actually give a read or two, since you're posting on site.

[Titus]

Well, yeah about half the events in the thread.

That reads list is keep the town leaders happy and keep wake v Titus going.

I know my Gundam.

You eat rope.

[Titus]

Titus says that her wagon is scum fueled when it's me pushing it.
okay.jpg

You are not fueling ANYTHING.

[Titus]

Wait what is this about gundams?

Gundam Seed.

I was scum and kept Wake v Sakura going after each other until I mislynched Wake as Uncced PR. I kissed his ass there and was uber kind to him and got him lynched due to noise.

Wake knows that game.

[Titus]

Wait what is this about gundams?

Gundam Seed.

I was scum and kept Wake v Sakura going after each other until I mislynched Wake as Uncced PR. I kissed his ass there and was uber kind to him and got him lynched due to noise.

Wake knows that game.

I barely remember the last game I completed, let alone one over 2 years ago.

So please don't say I know that game when I barely remember anything about it.

Really? I think that's the only game where I've drawn scum with you that I recall and helped establish my scum meta.

I have mentioned that game repeatedly, and you have said nothing.

[Titus]

I don't buy either being a doc, which is sad.

I feel this who thing is orchestrated by scum.

[Titus]

I am waiting on the flip.

[Titus]

Beeboy, shut the fuck up and go play with barbie dolls or something.

Don't do that.

Agreed.

[Titus]

Titus was in the game where I was in a scum only neighborhood.

modded by GIF

Oh way was that ny 192?

[Titus]

Titus was in the game where I was in a scum only neighborhood.

modded by GIF

Oh way was that ny 192?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59516

Tbh neither me nor PV got into that game

[Titus]

And my soul is going to be mildly furious if you all go for Titus/Dunn lynches tomo

If you're Town you need to stop being so naive.

And if we learn it's MB everything changes.

You need to stop straw manning, or claim scum.

[Titus]

I think i might have fucked up lol.

Better say how now.

[Titus]

Mirhawk has coasted.

What we need to do is set aside old biases and look at what is possible.

No one seems to have an odd/even night role. That suggests Mirhawk is lying.

[Titus]

*breathes*

[Titus]

Ok. But I do have to warn you, I make a terrible Nacho.

[Titus]

You can pour down ketchup on dem nachos and it will still be a good nacho.

VC.

But it won't be Nachomamma.

[Titus]

@Mod, mafia pt please.

@zach/implosion, a little lylo/endgame tip in the future, look at the flips of the dead. I am a firm believer in the idea that everyone provides something so look at the dead players and ask what they would do in lylo. I had a mostly town wagon that wouldn't die, yet scum shot me. Why would they do that? Because I was never going to let Mirhawk get away with the even night doctor most likely. The dual jk claim is also something I wouldn't stand for. The dead may not point out an obvious suspect using this method, but that's helpful to say why scum didn't kill you.

[Titus]

@Titus
Actually the reason we shot you was to break up the you/zach/dunn triangle you guys had going. It had to be done before the game got small enough that you guys were a significant voting block.

Welp, damn. I think it was a good call given Zach and dunn never worked well together without me.

[Titus]

Sig away Podog.