New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

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I am a

3

-shot vigilante (I know, right) and I basically kamikazed into the bomb claim, having used up all my shots

Why'd he FAKE CLAIM that's part of the reason I shot at him, didn't think there was a 3-shot vig and bomb as town killing roles in the same game

He also hard defended scum and hard pushed town so good run I guess

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Yeah unless I'm the sk who shot at a bomb claim

I had reason to believe he wasn't a town killing role because

I'm

a town killing role

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Also I shot at mirhawk last night which explains no extra kill

They commuted

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last night being night 2

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VOTE: Zachstralkita

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Actually




Why did the mafia kill podoboq?

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And why is everyone IGNORING his death

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Why does podoboq only talk about himself, his claim, ME, and mirhawk for like the past week

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What's your airick case

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He didn't soft he CLAIMED MACHO

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Of course Zach just slipped a reason why he'd kill him so I guess that makes sense

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This is not how Zach would react as town.

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How about you give me your full reads and why I should consider airick and actually contribute like I have

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I haven't contributed?




I shot wake

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stop ignoring me

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UNVOTE:

OK this is the non quickvote day and Zach needs to shape up his act lest he gets punked

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Why did you fake claim masons and then 1 shot and then 2 shot and now 3 shot vig?

The vig thing was so I didn't get roleblocked

2-shot vig is pretty normal so they wouldn't expect I'd have a 3rd shot, which I shot wake with (where there was a possibility of me dying)

The real answer is I can fake claim whatever I want since I'm the town killing role and Wake wasn't

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VOTE: beeboy

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Why are you so caught up on "scum vig" but don't consider serial killer?

No, it's not possible for there to be a scum vig because it's blacklisted in normal games

It is possibly for there to be a serial killer in normal games

I am a vig

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If I were a "scum vig" you're saying I'd have shot at whoever a50 had protected? (kraska in this case)

More like you have no reason to actually suspect me and you've done nothing all game

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Nah I have reason to suspect you but you are correct I have done nothing all game.

do something

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What does that killer poe look like

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gonna need a solid "poe" or "case" from zach and beeboy on airick

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N3 shot at town. He's even confirmed he felt he was town.

I didn't feel he was town LOL

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VOTE: Airick10

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if you guys want I can offer some sick poe

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UNVOTE:

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Did peregrine not claim his day 1 protect before dying? or did I forget it

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Given that Dunn has claimed Vig and apparently didn't hit anyone N1, what do we make of this?

....A50 jailkept me

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beeboy was lurking in the shadows

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I expect a town flip but whatever

So why'd you vote him?

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Almost50 is scum for voting with his scum read btw

But yolo

Are we sure he's not jailkeeper...?

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VOTE: Almost50

what a load of horse shit.

Except it's probably not, for I am indeed a

4

-shot vig and shot at beeboy.

So either mafia targetted beeboy with me, they targetted zach, or zach made the kill


By the way that's the second person I've successfully called out on fake claiming with my shots but then they turn out to be town anyway. I have to kindly ask you guys to stop fake claiming

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Anyway that really is my last shot

No clue why I'm still alive by the way

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He wasn't really doing anything... if you guys say he led the lynch, do you think he had a guilty result?

Also, he claimed miller and I did not believe his claim. I was right.

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By the way, that mafia flipped a protective role so you may want to rethink varsoon getting visited night 1. I thought about it.

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Aside from shooting Mirhawk and Wake your shots have been fucking awful this game.

PEDIT: Yea. He might've been protected.

Can we do a massclaim now?

and lapsa, and beeboy

My shots have not been awful. Two anti-town, two fake claimers, 1 mafia, and 1 who wasn't doing naything

Who would you have shot? Mirhawk, peregrine, and airick?

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shannon claimed vt

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VOTE: A50

I thought about it and I believe mirhawks claim >_>

Do you have anything else to bring to the table? Like, I don't know, elaboration?

Ya let's lynch A50 because town has too many protectives.

Theory: A50 is a mafia who fake claimed his partner's jailkeeper status and beeboy had a guilty on a50

Still reading up

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{Zach, Dunn, Me, Trans, Varsoon, Implosion, Kraska}

Who is left.

We will hard lynch the remaining players and win

AGar and Shannon are town

That leaves Airick Boem and A50

Gonna say he checked Agar and Shannon

Which means you should be mad at beeboy's checks and not me

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Transcend also strikes me as a town aligned player.

AGar, Titus, Transcend.
Town squad go!

Uh

{Titus, Varsoon, Agar, Beeboy, Transcend} These are town
{Wake} This may be town

>_> I got no scum reads.
Waiting on my main man Varsoon to come in!

Well if it were someone other than my scumread discrediting my reads then I'd give it a second look.

Since that isn't the case, lemme simplify my reads.

{Dunn, Zach, shannon, Almost50}
{kraska, Airick, Wake}
{Mirhawk, podoboq, beeboy}
{Titus, Peregrine}
{Varsoon}
{AGar}
{Boem, implosion}

feels pretty safe to me.

Why is AGar scum?

Mirhawk being a blatant counter wagon worries me.

Who's your alternative? Implosion?

I am just sheeping trascend this game tbh.

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Nah he asked you why Agar was scum in particular

Pretty sure Agar was n2 check and Shannon n4 check

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I think it's very dumb and risky to make solid inferences like that.

So tell me what you think.

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T thought those 2 were town regardless of any cop results which is why I'd say they were bad checks

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ur dumb

Guess I'll wait for this mass claim thing to be decided but it's probably a good idea

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I'm out of shots lol, I won't be shooting at anyone

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It's amazing that I was able to claim 1-shot then 2-shot then 3-shot though and not get roleblocked during that time

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Why would a50 claim his jailkeep?

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In that scenario there would be no reason for him to claim his jailkeep, if I'm claiming my vig shot

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Because then his jailkeep is essentially useless

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I think there's a good chance there's two mafia left though

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Right I thought 5 mafia would have been normal, looks like 4 would make more sense here

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Maybe the last mafia would have a role but nothing active so the mafia jailkeeper would have someone to protect? Like backup nurse or something

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Hey
Want me to claim?

Yes, it is finally time

I believe mass claiming is good at this point

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Alright, I'm a full vigilante but I'm not shooting again unless someone claims doctor

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Even if you think I'm a serial killer you shouldn't be voting me

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just keep protecting a50 and I won't shoot anyone then

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if we believe that the jailkeeper/doctor/nurse are all town

and that agar and shannon are cop checks

I think we have an easy game

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oh yea and the motion detector

And I think zach is town too

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Zach was on both vedith and airick though

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Pretty sure agar is the cop clear

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so... stop wagoning them please

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Or at least let's examine beefboy's stuff

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wait there was motion on agar?

Possible that last mafia has an ability?

Can mafia use their role and do the factional kill in the same night if there's only 1 mafia?

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I'm going to assume that they probably can

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He doesn't get answers like he used to now

Hold on I need to reread beeboy's stuff

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Can someone tell me why AGar is scum?

VOTE: Agar

The Mason claim makes me want to believe Titus is town. When I claimed Mason's in a game recently with her and Dunn it didn't exactly go that well so doing it as scum to get some sort of town cred just seems odd to me.
I will slowly develop more reads.

I don't see the vote switch as scummy, but the who he picked is kinda weird seeing as how he decided to blatantly sheep some other people (including Titus) instead of one of his secondary reads. Given how pissed off at the rest of the town he sounds I wouldn't have expected that.

I find everything before what you quoted pretty genuine.

Yeah I'm not going to vote him.

The points he makes on Titus are pretty legit. I think they're wrong, but I also believe he thinks they're right.

I'm thinking maybe he figured screw this shit I'll just sheep. I don't think he's liable to be sloppy enough as scum to just jump on a bandwagon that doesn't coincide with his reads.

Reads like frustration to me.

I've got to got to go.

UNVOTE:

Ok so I did some investigating of my own for my own vote and I appear to be voting a town aligned player.

Transcend also strikes me as a town aligned player.

AGar, Titus, Transcend.
Town squad go!

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Uh

{Titus, Varsoon, Agar, Beeboy, Transcend} These are town
{Wake} This may be town

>_> I got no scum reads.
Waiting on my main man Varsoon to come in!

This limits the night 1 inno to one of Titus, Varsoon, Agar, Transcend

Pretty sure it wasn't Titus based off something he says but I can make a case for the other 3

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Also I read over Varsoon's ISO because everything Titus said made me think he was scum and it is too bs for him to be scum. It remind me a lot of his total bs play from cyberpunk.

I don't think Varsoon would pull all that stupid surrounding the masons as scum
I also know his lurking is a legit cross site non alignment indicative thing

Sits and waits for Varsoon.

Sits and waits for Varsoon.

...for what, exactly?

I've got no leads besides still kinda wanting a lynch on Titus.
Dunny can be fine for now.
Oh, also, I can confirm one player as town, by the way, but only after a certain condition is met.
I don't know if that helps.

I want to see if you are town and I am pretty sure you are.

Cause your claim seems legit.
I read your ISO and it seems too out there I guess for you to be scum. Like you are doing things i don't think you would be doing as scum,
Mainly gut though.

Pretty sure Varsoon isn't the cop inno n1. I'll rule out Titus too

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VOTE: Titus

Why are we doing this?

@Varsoon why I am I voting Titus?

Right it's definitely not Titus as the cop clear n1

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Actually, I'm fairly certain that Varsoon was beeboy's night 1 inno.

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I can assure you guys that Transcend and Agar reads actually formed during the end of day 1, and not overnight (which the varsoon read did)

So yeah agar isn't the cop check

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@mod Can a Mafia member use a factional kill and individual action on the same night?

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VOTE: agar

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So wait, Dunn is now claiming full vig? What happened to saying you'd never fake claim? How do we know you're not a serial killer?

There's two kinds of people: Me and dirty fake claimers

Wake and Beeboy fall into the latter category

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Transcend's claim was close enough and didn't make me want to shoot him so

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So are you actually a 2-shot motion detector or did you really get a result

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I agree that I'd rather the doctor protected the motion detector

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By the way did we ever decide that a50 was actually town jailkeeper after a mafia jailkeeper flipped?

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VOTE: Zachstralkita

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Zach you busser

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Zach pretty please with a cherry on top claim so I don't lynch you

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I never inferred my superiority in that post

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UNVOTE:

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Zach might actually be mafia who bussed hard

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Zach is normally completely (like 90%) wrong on who is scum so it's weird that they've been falling left and right - heavy bussing suspected

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I heavily outperformed you this game

I should honestly get a gold medal for my performance this game.

not kidding

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How about you tell me who the last mafia alive is

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By the way I just realized that we're actually at an even number of players (10)

So yes, I will be shooting tonight and it's probably going to be the last shot I take

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And why do you not mention third parti--

Probably because the only third party available in normal games is a serial killer

and we don't have one of those I assure you

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you're not killing me today by the way - I'm serious about us having an even number of players and me needing to shoot

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How do you know the mafia cap?

Were you not reading the rest of the thread

Be honest

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WAKE COUNTER CLAIMED A VIG

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Titus didn't save me I wasn't even being voted

Wake's smart claim made he deduce that he was not a town killing role (correct) and so I shothim and he was... vanilla town

Why claim bomb when threatened with the prospect of being shot by a VIG? How is that a towny action?

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You see my sig? it's probably THE LOWEST FUCKING END OF THE SPECTRUM.

We didn't cc an actual pr and let them get lynched

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Scum wouldn't claim bomb like that for the exact same reason -- fucks like you would shoot them

Except he'd be banking on me NOT shooting him

Clearly he figured "it doesn't make sense for a vig to shoot at a bomb claim!"

Except he forgot to account for the Dunn factor

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You see my sig? it's probably THE LOWEST FUCKING END OF THE SPECTRUM.

We didn't cc an actual pr and let them get lynched

I later helped win that game so

NO YOU DIDN'T YOU GOT CARRIED THROUGH

don't even start with this right now

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Wake was blatant town.

He hard pushed town all game

He hard defended mafia all game

saying "he was blatant town!" after he's flipped isn't impressive

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we're not lynching the doctor claim while transcend and a50 are alive

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doctor should probably be on transcend who scans vanilla townies

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Are you going to wagon me or...

why would I do that

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Commence plan "kill all vanilla townies except for whoever transcend checks)

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what about the fact that there was a mafia jailkeeper? Do you suspect a50?

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Note: a50 claimed jailkeep targets on people who hadn't claimed. So if he were mafia fake claiming that he could be caught by someone saying 'no I wasn't roleblocked" so if he were mafia he'd be role cop or another roleblocker

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They shot lapsa because I was saying "lapsa/mirhawk team" and mirhawk was scum while lapsa was town

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Zach give me your thoughts on boem and shannon and kraska

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Tell you guys what

If we come to a CONSENSUS that implosion should be lynched

I will shoot him tonight instead

Thoughts?

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YES HE Claimed nurse who turned into doctor

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Unless beeboy outright claimed his check on Varsoon then you're just speculating.

But using my expert deduction I figured that he checked varsoon night 1.

Also transcend SAW varsoon being visited on night 1 with his motion detection

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VOTE: Agar

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Also, I'm not too sure a Doctor could exist with a JK I'd have to agree

But peregrine flipped doctor and you claimed jk so...............?

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somebody case boem

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Varsoon is the cop inno ?

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AGar and Shannon are town

This is really bugging me, it really looks like those were the checks - it was at the beginning of D4.

Right but take a closer look - Beeboy develops a townread on Agar at the end of day 1, not overnight

He might have also townread Transcend after he said Varsoon was visited if someone wants to do some research

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Airick10

,

Mafia Jailkeeper

, was lynched Day 4.

Now it is

Night 4

.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-07-22 17:25:33).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEalWO4IjC4

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