Mafia 70: Traditional - Game over!

[ZONEACE]

VOTE Kalediscope

because of those damn letters i can't make.

[ZONEACE]

UNVOTE VOTE Flameaxe

part OMGUS part Lets get day 1 rolling with a nice bandwagon.

[ZONEACE]

These are not votes for Yamahoko.

How can we vote for someone not in this game?

whos been voted for thats not in the game??????????

[ZONEACE]

oh i see. Yama is being more anal than me about his name being spelled wrong.

[ZONEACE]

I must say I'm not pleased with Niv's descision to out the mason group. Unconfirmed mason does not equal mafia mason, it can, but its not a definite and if everyone in the mason group ends up being town then outing anymore of them jsut gives the mafia more easy targets.

I don't know why but at this point I'm leaning toward beleiving Simeon over Niv, but

FOS BOTH OF THEM

Ckillor's thoughts make sense (regarding Niv and Lemming possibly being mafia) despite it being unliekly and not the best plan for the mafia if it's true. so

FOS Lemming

as well.

I'm gonna

unvote flameaxe

as my vote there was really just trying to get the day 1 bandwagon train rolling but sense we actually have some real info now and real suspicions we don't need a random bandwagon.

thats all for now

[ZONEACE]

I think that theres a strong posibility that at least one of them is scum, with a slight posibility of both of them being scum. I don;t think the whole fime man mason thing is impossible, but i definately don't automaticaly believe its true.

[ZONEACE]

and with that I guess its obvious who the scum is.

Vote Simeon

voting for someone that believes you? good move.

[ZONEACE]

I don't know why but at this point I'm leaning toward beleiving Simeon over Niv, but FOS BOTH OF THEM

umm back there in post 98, where i said this. Clearly I'm scum though, OBVI. Oy, some people are so blind. How am I not supposed to suspect someone who votes me AFTER I say I'm leaning toward believing. It's more than OMGUS, it's logic. If you're voting for one of the few people saying they believe you then clearly there's something wrong there. Someone's trying deflect suspicion on to someone else.

[ZONEACE]

yeahi give up, if the town is gonna follow crap logic lik ethis I don't want to be part of the game..

I think Niv, Simeon and Lemming are all Scum, and it will be obvious after you lynch me.

I'm a basic townie, not in a mason group and with no power whatsoever, but go ahead and lynch me so i'll have to time to join a game that isn't full of people who quickly jump on logicless bandwagons.

[ZONEACE]

I mean seriously, you have two players contradicting each other's information, OBVIOUSLY one of them is lying. ANd yet you've decided to lynch neither of them. GOOD PLAN TOWN, GOOD PLAN.

[ZONEACE]

Im ndone playing, i won't be answering anymore questions. Its clear no matter what I say you all are gonna lynch me with your ZERO LOGIC so why try? This 5 person mason claim could EASILY be the mafia's way to safe claim, or it could really be there, I don't know and I don't care. So getting the others to confirm you won't do anything to sway me. Not to mention it would be a TERRIBLE idea if in infact you aren't mafia. The town having more people reveal themselves on day one is stupid, but since I've recieved votes for god only knows what reason, I don't expect to town to do the smart thing.

[ZONEACE]

well town i think it should now be quite obvious who exactly the scum are especially after this logicless lynch of me is over.

[ZONEACE]

Vanilla claims are more null tells to be honest.

so are you saying you'd like me to lie and make up a role so my claim is more convincing?

In that case, then I'm the doc guys and I can self protect so yeah, mafia, don't waste your time targeting me at night.


Is that better flare? a non-vanilla claim?

[ZONEACE]

I'm apathetic at this point, I'm just waiting for you all to lynch me so the town can realize it screwed up and finally get its head out of its collective rear-end and realize the mafia instigated and pushed this lynch with no logic.

[ZONEACE]

Yeah, pretty much the entire bit on what Niv "called me out" on. He didn't just pm me saying "ur scum lol".

In fact, to my knowledge, he didn't pm me at all, but that's what triggered this discussion.

Eh, rethinking it, here is probably where the miscommunication lies:

I send Niv a pm saying that one of us may be scum and we shouldn't talk that much.

He sends me a pm (presumably the one I picked up) saying that he didn't need to be telling that.
He follows up with a pm saying something about outboxes and saying "point stands".

No where did he mention I was scummy for what I said, just that he didn't need to be reminded that one was possibly untrustworthy.

Bolding mine.


Umm So which is it, niv sent you a pm, or he didn't? You have in 2 seperate posts called niv a liar (indirectly) and not a liar but confused without ever stating you were correcting yourself. So Which is it? Is Niv a Liar or is he just confused?

[ZONEACE]

even i am now starting to think that it's a misunderstanding. i think now that hte best place to look is Zone.

Unvote, Vote Zone

.

wrong wrong wrong wrong WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

[ZONEACE]

lol at patrick.

[ZONEACE]

i never said anything about replacements, I won't be replaced, if you want rid of me so badly lemming, then lynch me, but i suspect people are wising to your obvious mafianess, so good luck with that.

[ZONEACE]

But, overall, I still don’t like the way in which Zoneace requested replacement when the going got tough, then stayed when the pressure eased. This combined with his lack of contribution of late, make me think he is probably scum.

Vote: Zoneace

hey genius, we've been over this, I DIDN'T REQUEST A REPLACEMENT.

RTFG

[ZONEACE]

probably not

[ZONEACE]

. Plus he seemed VERY confident that Zoneace isnt scum...

thats cause he actually knows what he's talking about. unlike so many people in this game.

[ZONEACE]

link?

[ZONEACE]

his point is that I'm town.

[ZONEACE]

So, why did you claim that the town was about to lynch you over faulty logic when we were no where near lynching you?

I've been playing this game long enough to know when a wave has begun. It was clear where the day was headed. I was going to fall victim to a baseless lynch pushed by atleast one (and likely more) member of the mafia. the original votes i got, if you'll go back and look, were without merit, by people trying to throw suspicion off of themselves.

[ZONEACE]

THE JUST FRIGGIN LYNCH ME AND SEE THAT YOU ARE WRONG AND BE DOWN A TOWNIE WHEN YOU COULD LYNCH SOMEONE WHO IS MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE SCUM.

god damn i'm sick of your useless logicless accusations.


how is me STATING MY TRUE SUSPICIONS ABOUT NIV, SIMEON AND LEMMING DELIBERATLEY NONCOMMITAL??????


christ you people deserve to lose if you do this.

[ZONEACE]

NO I STTATED I COULD SEE BOTH SIDES OF THE ARGUMENT. I made my beliefs known, but also made it known. There was a reason I didn't vote, because i couldn't be sure. I was looking at the situation from all sides BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT TOWNIES SHOULD DO SO THAT THEY DON'T F UP AND LYNCH ONE OF THERE OWN.

[ZONEACE]

I FOS'd him because while the case against him was unlikely it WAS STILL POSSIBLE. I FOS people who appear to me as possible scum, and he was possibly scum, unlikely, BUT STILL POSSSIBLE.

[ZONEACE]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]Could you make the font size huge? otherwise it's so hard to read your caps...[/quote]

EAT ME KSCOPE

Better?

[ZONEACE]

Are you implying accusations you have made have any logic? If they do, you are yet to state it. Please do so.

you read my post genius, my original thoughts on sim, niv and lemming had logic.

[ZONEACE]

yeah im done trying to make you see the truth cause YOU CLEARLY DON'T WANT TO.

so you have fun tornado and when you lose, don't look at me, you have no one to blame but yourself.

[ZONEACE]

viewtopic.php?t=261&highlight=
theres one

viewtopic.php?t=308&highlight=
another


Ive not been mafia many times so finding examples is hard

[ZONEACE]

crap, i messed up that tag. could someone (like the mod) fix that please?

[ZONEACE]

unvote VOTE ZEPPO

clearly you haven't been paying attention, what makes you think you're so special that you deserve some sort of extra argument when i've already made my case.

i think it should be clear that at this point anyone voting me is to be looked at with suspicion.

[ZONEACE]

Zoneace, how badly you're playing this game continues to flaw me. I stated quite clearly that the reasoning you had given, which I quoted, was that you were victim of a basless bandwagon pushed by scum.

I pointed out that the bandwagon wasn't baseless, Simenon had a good reason to vote for you. I even admitted that the following votes on you were slightly sus but you had to argue your case better than you have. Your failure to do this suggests to me that you are indeed scum. I don't see an OMGUS vote on me is doing you any good.

True to my word

Vote: Zoneace

and your voting for me indicates that you clearly have no clue what you're doing.

[ZONEACE]

because he's voting for me. OBVI

[ZONEACE]

did i say that?

[ZONEACE]

before his one post yesterday suggesting i might be a jester he hadn't posted in almost a week and he's only posted 5 times in the game. He's been super lurky and suddenly shows up to jump on a lame wagon. sounds like someone worth voting to me.

[ZONEACE]

Hmm... actually, I agree with you here... I had thought at first that your vote was OMGUS...

I may be irratic and stand-offish but i do have some idea of how this whole thing works.

[ZONEACE]

votecount please

[ZONEACE]

can we get

prods

on

Celtic

(hasn't posted since the 24th and only has 3 posts),

carrotcake

(same as celtic, no post for a week and only 3 total), and

hmrox

(no posts in 10 days)

and can we get some participation please? Page 14 and yet the following people have posted less than 10 times the entire game (not including replacement)

Aimee - 3 posts
Beastly - 8
Carrot - 3
Celtic - 3
Ether - 6
hmrox - 7
Venerable Zorg - 7
toaster strudel - 6
Yamahako - 5
Zeppo - 6


Thats 10 of 22 people with less than 10 posts and 4 of those have 5 or less.

[ZONEACE]

All prodded with a sharp implement of your choice.

with a Shuriken, HUZZAH

[ZONEACE]

You may very well have made 40 posts in that time, but 39 have been appeals to emotions and OMGUS votes. Maybe I should just consistently post spam and spout OMGUS crap to get my post count up higher.

im sure if you weren't stupid and actually went back and looked you'd see that far more than 1 of my posts has been useful to the game, unlike you. but keep up the good work.

[ZONEACE]

The constant pointing out of Zoneace's possible lack of useful posting isn't exactly useful either...

HUZZAH a smart person.

[ZONEACE]

it might be interesting for someone to go back and count how many times Zoneace has used insults regarding intelligence towards other people in this game.

I nominate you

[ZONEACE]

1) Just because he acts this way in another game doesn't give him the right to act like this in this game.

2) He is exhibiting an amazing amount of scumtells. Are we going to just let players continue to exhibit them all game just because they were town and did it in another game?

3) He refuses to address the accusations against him. We're going to lynch him eventually. I think he's scum, but I'm trying to persuade the "he's probably town"

4) Jester's are an exception to the rule and one shouldn't go about thinking about Jester's all day when lynching someone giving off massive Scum tells. He's a horrible player and needs to learn

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

if you were any more obvious , well, actually, you couldn't be any more obvious.

[ZONEACE]

however if zoneace always plays like this, wouldn't it be more like a no tell?

zoneace doesn't ALWAYS play like this, he plays like this when he becomes the target of baseless attacks by those attempting to avert suspicion from themselves.

@ Zone: could you please post some real content of some sort. like who you think is scum or something.

umm you quoted one of my posts where i added protown content and explained who i thought was scum, AFTER you said this, so why would you say this? I explained why i voted for Zeppo.

[ZONEACE]

UNVOTE VOTE Flameaxe

part OMGUS part Lets get day 1 rolling with a nice bandwagon.

There's a post with pro-town content. games that start in day need a bandwagon day one to get info, so i was trying to get one started so we could get the game going.

I must say I'm not pleased with Niv's descision to out the mason group. Unconfirmed mason does not equal mafia mason, it can, but its not a definite and if everyone in the mason group ends up being town then outing anymore of them jsut gives the mafia more easy targets.

I don't know why but at this point I'm leaning toward beleiving Simeon over Niv, but

FOS BOTH OF THEM

Ckillor's thoughts make sense (regarding Niv and Lemming possibly being mafia) despite it being unliekly and not the best plan for the mafia if it's true. so

FOS Lemming

as well.

I'm gonna

unvote flameaxe

as my vote there was really just trying to get the day 1 bandwagon train rolling but sense we actually have some real info now and real suspicions we don't need a random bandwagon.

thats all for now

Oh look, another one. the post that started all the BS in the first place.

I think that theres a strong posibility that at least one of them is scum, with a slight posibility of both of them being scum. I don;t think the whole fime man mason thing is impossible, but i definately don't automaticaly believe its true.

ooh, look another, me explaining the post before when some clearly didn't understand logic

Then there are about 3 posts where i continue to try and explain my post as MORE PEOPLE don't understand logic

Yeah, pretty much the entire bit on what Niv "called me out" on. He didn't just pm me saying "ur scum lol".

In fact, to my knowledge, he didn't pm me at all, but that's what triggered this discussion.

Eh, rethinking it, here is probably where the miscommunication lies:

I send Niv a pm saying that one of us may be scum and we shouldn't talk that much.

He sends me a pm (presumably the one I picked up) saying that he didn't need to be telling that.
He follows up with a pm saying something about outboxes and saying "point stands".

No where did he mention I was scummy for what I said, just that he didn't need to be reminded that one was possibly untrustworthy.

Bolding mine.


Umm So which is it, niv sent you a pm, or he didn't? You have in 2 seperate posts called niv a liar (indirectly) and not a liar but confused without ever stating you were correcting yourself. So Which is it? Is Niv a Liar or is he just confused?

In this post I show where simeone CONTRADICTS HIMSELF since apparently no one else noticed it. He says one things then he says the opposite.

later on i've got a couple more posts still explaining the original post that caused all the commotion since it seems NO ONE understands looking at both sides of a situation and understanding both sides but still leaning toward one side over the other.

Then Zeppo votes for me, so I vote for him (with reason, not just OMGUS)
and look, here i explain it.

before his one post yesterday suggesting i might be a jester he hadn't posted in almost a week and he's only posted 5 times in the game. He's been super lurky and suddenly shows up to jump on a lame wagon. sounds like someone worth voting to me.

His actions seemed scummy, so i voted him, logically.

Shortly after that I ask for a vote count

then...

can we get

prods

on

Celtic

(hasn't posted since the 24th and only has 3 posts),

carrotcake

(same as celtic, no post for a week and only 3 total), and

hmrox

(no posts in 10 days)

and can we get some participation please? Page 14 and yet the following people have posted less than 10 times the entire game (not including replacement)

Aimee - 3 posts
Beastly - 8
Carrot - 3
Celtic - 3
Ether - 6
hmrox - 7
Venerable Zorg - 7
toaster strudel - 6
Yamahako - 5
Zeppo - 6


Thats 10 of 22 people with less than 10 posts and 4 of those have 5 or less.

Here i explain the DIRE participation situation in teh game. nearly 15 pages into the game and almost have the players have lackluster participation and 3 desperately in need of prods/replacement.


And now we've come to the conclusion. If you go back and actually read through my posts, you'll see that I've been trying to help the town. No way would bug the mod about participation if i was scum, bad participation helps the scum because it makes it easier for them to force a majority. Also, i've explained all my votes, and they've all had a reason. My vote for sim was more than just OMGUS, i stated that of him and niv i was believing him more, and yet he voted for me, why would you vote for someone that believes you? that only makes since for the scum to do to someone they know ISNT scum, so i voted him. I explained my vote of Zeppo. It wasn't OMGUS, he showed up, OUT OF NOWHERE after lurking for practically the whole game and throws a vote on a stalled wagon. I have been more helpful to the town that a fair number of people in this game, especially the lurkers, so before you get all high and mighty and start exclaiming i'm so unhelpful and anti town, take some time to actually gather info after the subject.

[ZONEACE]

Showed up out of nowhere? I made one post early on then waited until I had anything to add before posting again rather than clutter up the place with useless posts. I put forward the idea you were a jester and asked you to respond with a reason why I shouldn't vote for you. If you gave a well reasoned post like the one above I never would have. Instead you came up with this gem:

unvote VOTE ZEPPO

clearly you haven't been paying attention, what makes you think you're so special that you deserve some sort of extra argument when i've already made my case.

i think it should be clear that at this point anyone voting me is to be looked at with suspicion.

as i pointed out, before that ONE post about jesters you hadn't posted in the game in 6 days, and prior to that 6 days you'd only posted twice in the game, thats out of nowhere to me.

[ZONEACE]

You're cranky.

but he's also correct, and that's what matters.

[ZONEACE]

Ok, just quick thoughts.

Zoneace, absolutely terrible player.

oh eat me you asshole, this is the FIRST GAME you've ever played with me, so spare me the braod sweeping judgements of my character. Unless you're a god damned betazoid you can kiss my ass. Not to mention you've been here for like 2 months, so excuse me if i think you aren't the best judge whats good and bad.

MoS is acting weird but i've got no read on him.

NO MoS is acting like someone who knows what he's talking about because he actually has some experience with me.

[ZONEACE]

whereas a bad player would take it personally

umm except that you personally attacked me, so you can act all high and mighty if you want but you attacked me, prick.


as for MoS yes i do have something to do with MoS, the reason people are voting for him was for his defense of me. Sounds to me like that might have something to do with me.

[ZONEACE]

So if he comes up scum, you're scum?

yeah cause that's what I said


can we lynch this half wit???

UNVOTE but FOS Zeppo

VOTE WHITE

The entire case against MoS is crap, and well you're pushing REALLY hard at me, despite the fact that the case against me is CRAP.

[ZONEACE]

Huzzah, people in this game are starting to make sense.

[ZONEACE]

[quote="ZORG[/quote]


ZOMG YOU MEAN LIKES THESE I LINKED TO.

viewtopic.php?t=261&highlight=
theres one

viewtopic.php?t=308&highlight=
another

Proof that I don't always act like this, i was mafia in both those games and certainly didn't, which was the point that was originally trying to be made by MoS.

ZOMG.

[ZONEACE]

it might be nice if a veteran could provide me with a link, to save me having to look through hundreds of topics.

thats the quote i fucked up


also, you wouldnt have to look through hundreds of threads if in the serach you just type my name into the box and limit the search to the various game sub-forums.

[ZONEACE]

IM NOT FUCKING OMGUS PERSONIFIED. THIS IS THE ONLY FUCKING GAME YOU GOD DAMNED BEEN IN WITH ME. READ SOME OF MY GOD DAMNED GAMES ALRIGHT. HELL, READ THE OTHER 2 GAMES I'M IN NOW. I DON'T FUCKING OMGUS ALL THE TIME AND I HAVE EXPLAINED ALL THREE OF MY VOTES THIS GAME. THEY'VE HAD MORE REASON THAN OMGUS JESUS CHRIST GET SOME FUCKING READING COMPREHENSION.


here i'll list some games where you can see im not OMGUS (not gonna link cause im sick of doing everyone elses fucking job for them).

Shadyville
Mystery in Shadyville
Clavin and Hobbes
DP9 Blackadder mafia

[ZONEACE]

whatever, i'm done with the braindead noob.


anyone worth my time wanna add to the game.

[ZONEACE]

No. I'm very much not scum. I'm very much a plain vanilla townie being railroaded by atleast a couple scum.

[ZONEACE]

I swear to god you people cant friggin read.


yes WHITE WAS PUSHING HARD AT ME, BUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT WHAT DID I SAY, THE CASE AGAINST MY IS CRAP, WHICH IT IS.

for fucks sake, stop taking parts of sentences and ignoring the rest. hell you make anything anyone says mean whatever you want if thats what you're gonna do.

zeppo showed up, OUT OF NOWHERE and mentioned suspicion of 1 person with a shit case against them and came after another person with a lame case against them.

[ZONEACE]

[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]I didn't ask you to claim, did I?[/quote]


umm i claimed already back like 6-7 pages ago or something, so i didnt just claim for you. this was information that was already out there.

[ZONEACE]

he does indeed always play like this (which is not a good thing IMO).

you know, i almost want to be modkilled, this is so friggin useless.

you people are stupid.

am i playing like this in NOXKill? NO, am i playing like this in Match of Champions, NO, am i playing like this in the noob game i'm in NO, did i play like this is Shadyville? NO did i play like this in Mystery in Shadyville NO. did i play like this in DP9? NO.


honestly, READING COMPREHENSION. you all speak english right? why then are you all having SOO MUCH TROUBLE reading?

[ZONEACE]

I should reread.... didn't MoS say that you always played like this which you agreed with? I'll go back and try and find some quotes.

If he did I didn't see him say that. what i saw him say was that he's seen me act like this in this situation ebfore (where i was a townie being pushed into a corner for no reason with no way to defend myself) and he's seen how I act when I'm mafia and well, its very much not how i've been acting this game (cause people were trying to claim my behavior was a scumtell)

[ZONEACE]

Zoneace is not scum. You think he's scum because you have never played with him before. Or, you know he's not scum and are pushing a lynch on him because you think he's an easy target and don't realize that those of us who've been around this whole time know the Zonace isn't acting scummy.

however if zoneace always plays like this, wouldn't it be more like a no tell?

You're putting words in my mouth. I didn't say that. I said he wasn't acting like he does as scum. That statement is not logically equivalent to "always plays like this", therefore it is not the no tell you are proposing.

FOUND IT


there, it was NIV who tried to make it seem like MoS said i always act like this, which he wasnt. he then called NIV on it and explained.

[ZONEACE]

Okay so he wasn't quite saying that you always play like this.

However in this game viewtopic.php?t=1478&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=0
You were scum, you were lynched day 1 and you played similarly though not

as

to how you played now. (I chose this game because it's the most recent game I could see that had finished).

umm your problem here is that in this game the Mafia were actually the majority who were trying to rid themselves of the town, so essentially, the Mafia were the Good Guys and the Townies were teh bad guys, SO ITS THE SAME SITUATION AS THIS ONE.

[ZONEACE]

no its not, its like Bizzaro Mafia. Its just the regular concept, only inverted.

[ZONEACE]

I'd also like to point out that in the game zeppo pointed out, i ended up being right about 2 of the 5 people i specifically pointed out. the first 2 i named ended up being in one of the minority groups.

[ZONEACE]

Zone:
Recklessly defending anyone that defends you, scummy or terrible play.

recklessly defending anyone that defends me? I didn't recklessly defend MoS. The ONLY thing you people had against him was him defending me. I called a spade a spade and broguht to light that that was a SHIT CASE. good try though.


keep up the good work, you're REALLY just spot on today.

[ZONEACE]

Btw, nice to see how you don't disagree with the other two.

Did i say that? No, i didn't. Claiming may not have been the best idea in your eyes, but in my eyes it was what i had to do. and i must say that im still alive, so clearly it wasn't THAT TERRIBLE.

as for ad hom, meh, i really could not care less.


also,

FOS Kscope

because i do agree there hasn't been much added by his posts. but also

Big Ole Pat on the Back for Kscope

for voting white.

[ZONEACE]

what the hell is WIFOM?


god i go away for a couple years and you guys freaking create an entire new languagte of just acronyms

[ZONEACE]

So your basic argument is that ZONEACE is so bad at the game that he's unable to conceal his scumminess even a little bit?

i think thats what their argument is. honestly, the arguments have been so flaccid and weak that its hard to say exactly.

[ZONEACE]

Erg0, are you saying that zoneace has not made scumtells?

Are you saying that scum would never be so blatantly scummy?

i think he's saying that you're grasping at straws.

[ZONEACE]

well everything you just said is WIFOM.

[ZONEACE]

zoneace I'm not going to be responding to anything you say because I think all your accusations are baseless and stupid and there's no reason to, and if you continue to pursue me I will make a post that looks like I said I was replacing but never actually stop acting like I do and then completely backpedal on saying anything remotely close to replacing

WELL YOU'RE CLEARLY FUCKING STUPID.


i never once said anything about replacing. ok. NEVER ONCE. you are a liar, you say lynch all liars, if i wasn;t already sure that white needed our attention i'd say lets take your advice and lynch you.

[ZONEACE]

Is someone bitter that the crap bandwagon he was trying to push derailed? AWW POOR LEMMY.

[ZONEACE]

again, making up MORE LIES. if i were just OMGUS I would have attacked, Erg0, Yama, flare and Kscope, i simply haven't.


you say lynch all liars, you're basically advocating your own lynch.

[ZONEACE]

DOES IT SAY "HAI PATRICK REPLACE ME KTHX BAI"?


NO i wasn't gonna answer anymore questionwhile i was the target of a pointless, baseless, likely scum driven wagon. and I didn't. now that the town is playing with at least a semblence of sanity, i'm cooperating.

[ZONEACE]

zoneace you just got burned so hard how does it feel? do you rubs the lotion on the skin?

How does it feel to have a mind blowing case and all you have to say to it is "NO YOUR STUPID"

I'm done arguing with a two year old. I will not be removing my vote until someone roleclaims scum

where the hell did i get burned? you're the one being proven a liar.

[ZONEACE]

listen, if it obvious from the acts of these two who the scum are then the town is beyond help.

the two of them keep trying to distract the town with shit that's already come and gone. this whole incident with me is OVER and has been, but they won't let it die. everytime they bring it up it just serves to reinforce their obvious anti-town behavior

[ZONEACE]

go ahead...show me where I lied. But I don't think you will because you haven't defended yourself this entire game with anything more than "no ur stupid"

except maybe one paragraph in a huge megapost, but it really did just boil down to "no ur stupid"

umm this is more than one paragraph in a mega post. i explain all of my votes here, they aren't just OMGUS but you are ignoring that because YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY TRYING TO DISTRACT THE TOWN.

UNVOTE VOTE Flameaxe

part OMGUS part Lets get day 1 rolling with a nice bandwagon.

There's a post with pro-town content. games that start in day need a bandwagon day one to get info, so i was trying to get one started so we could get the game going.

I must say I'm not pleased with Niv's descision to out the mason group. Unconfirmed mason does not equal mafia mason, it can, but its not a definite and if everyone in the mason group ends up being town then outing anymore of them jsut gives the mafia more easy targets.

I don't know why but at this point I'm leaning toward beleiving Simeon over Niv, but

FOS BOTH OF THEM

Ckillor's thoughts make sense (regarding Niv and Lemming possibly being mafia) despite it being unliekly and not the best plan for the mafia if it's true. so

FOS Lemming

as well.

I'm gonna

unvote flameaxe

as my vote there was really just trying to get the day 1 bandwagon train rolling but sense we actually have some real info now and real suspicions we don't need a random bandwagon.

thats all for now

Oh look, another one. the post that started all the BS in the first place.

I think that theres a strong posibility that at least one of them is scum, with a slight posibility of both of them being scum. I don;t think the whole fime man mason thing is impossible, but i definately don't automaticaly believe its true.

ooh, look another, me explaining the post before when some clearly didn't understand logic

Then there are about 3 posts where i continue to try and explain my post as MORE PEOPLE don't understand logic

Yeah, pretty much the entire bit on what Niv "called me out" on. He didn't just pm me saying "ur scum lol".

In fact, to my knowledge, he didn't pm me at all, but that's what triggered this discussion.

Eh, rethinking it, here is probably where the miscommunication lies:

I send Niv a pm saying that one of us may be scum and we shouldn't talk that much.

He sends me a pm (presumably the one I picked up) saying that he didn't need to be telling that.
He follows up with a pm saying something about outboxes and saying "point stands".

No where did he mention I was scummy for what I said, just that he didn't need to be reminded that one was possibly untrustworthy.

Bolding mine.


Umm So which is it, niv sent you a pm, or he didn't? You have in 2 seperate posts called niv a liar (indirectly) and not a liar but confused without ever stating you were correcting yourself. So Which is it? Is Niv a Liar or is he just confused?

In this post I show where simeone CONTRADICTS HIMSELF since apparently no one else noticed it. He says one things then he says the opposite.

later on i've got a couple more posts still explaining the original post that caused all the commotion since it seems NO ONE understands looking at both sides of a situation and understanding both sides but still leaning toward one side over the other.

Then Zeppo votes for me, so I vote for him (with reason, not just OMGUS)
and look, here i explain it.

before his one post yesterday suggesting i might be a jester he hadn't posted in almost a week and he's only posted 5 times in the game. He's been super lurky and suddenly shows up to jump on a lame wagon. sounds like someone worth voting to me.

His actions seemed scummy, so i voted him, logically.

Shortly after that I ask for a vote count

then...

can we get

prods

on

Celtic

(hasn't posted since the 24th and only has 3 posts),

carrotcake

(same as celtic, no post for a week and only 3 total), and

hmrox

(no posts in 10 days)

and can we get some participation please? Page 14 and yet the following people have posted less than 10 times the entire game (not including replacement)

Aimee - 3 posts
Beastly - 8
Carrot - 3
Celtic - 3
Ether - 6
hmrox - 7
Venerable Zorg - 7
toaster strudel - 6
Yamahako - 5
Zeppo - 6


Thats 10 of 22 people with less than 10 posts and 4 of those have 5 or less.

Here i explain the DIRE participation situation in teh game. nearly 15 pages into the game and almost have the players have lackluster participation and 3 desperately in need of prods/replacement.


And now we've come to the conclusion. If you go back and actually read through my posts, you'll see that I've been trying to help the town. No way would bug the mod about participation if i was scum, bad participation helps the scum because it makes it easier for them to force a majority. Also, i've explained all my votes, and they've all had a reason. My vote for sim was more than just OMGUS, i stated that of him and niv i was believing him more, and yet he voted for me, why would you vote for someone that believes you? that only makes since for the scum to do to someone they know ISNT scum, so i voted him. I explained my vote of Zeppo. It wasn't OMGUS, he showed up, OUT OF NOWHERE after lurking for practically the whole game and throws a vote on a stalled wagon. I have been more helpful to the town that a fair number of people in this game, especially the lurkers, so before you get all high and mighty and start exclaiming i'm so unhelpful and anti town, take some time to actually gather info after the subject.

can we please just lynch white today and lemming tomorrow. seriously, its obvious they arent with the town because they refuse to let go of something THE REST OF US have moved on from.

[ZONEACE]

I think he's the scummiest person and i'm trying to show him how scummy he's being. However I attribute it to being simply a bad player, not scum. Which is why i'm not pushing for a lynch, i'm pushing for him to shut up and stop distracting us.

stop distracting us, you and lemming are the ones distracting everyone.

[ZONEACE]

I've yet to see you scum hunt btw.

I hereby retract this statement.

I have yet to see you, Zoneace, hunt scum in the last 5 pages.

really is that why i've pointed out repeated you 2 are obviously not with the town?

you megaposted yourself ahahahahaha.

It's not your place to tell us your actions and if they're scummy or not. It's ours

umm for someone railing against WIFOM so hard you certianly just used the shit out of it right there. Its my place to tell you my actions and explain them?????????????????


hahah, you really do have the metal capacity of a turnip.

[ZONEACE]

Its my place to tell you my actions and explain them?????????????????
.

that should say Its NOT my place

[ZONEACE]

ok im done arguing with these two mafia. I suggest we lynch white and lemming ASAP.

I will not be responding to either them for the rest of today, or likely tomorrow though (and hopefully both of them will be dead by the next day)

[ZONEACE]

Ok, let's break it down into smaller questions:

1. Do you agree that ZONEACE's scumtells are extremely obvious?
2. Do you agree that ZONEACE is an experienced player?
3. Do you agree that ZONEACE is not stupid?

I believe that all of these questions can be answered "yes" with some certainty. Unless you can come up with another factor that I'm missing, the logical conclusion is that ZONEACE is aware of what he's doing. WIFOM applies to questions of motivation, whereas these are questions that can be answered definitively based on available facts.

erg0 let it go, let then piss and moan about me into the infinite time. just focus on people who aren't intentionally trying to distract the town.

[ZONEACE]

I give up on this. You've gone from calling WIFOM to completely ignoring the point of my questions, so you're obviously at the cognitive dissonance stage already.

When you come down, just look for someone useful to vote.

the problem erg0 is THEY are the someone useful to vote.

[ZONEACE]

FFS, I swear if one more person, in one more game, declares that they get a 'scummy vibe' off me, without having a clue why, I'm going to kill someone.

you mean, like tonight, with your night choice?

[ZONEACE]

Nice rolefish.

meh, it was worth a shot.

[ZONEACE]

i have no opiunion of Sir T at this point
i think MoS is likely town
and Yamahako is moving up my scum list quickly with each post he makes
but I think our best targets are white and lemming.

[ZONEACE]

Sticks and stones.

will break your bones, but your words will get you lynched.

unvote vote yamahako

i so wish i had 2 votes.

[ZONEACE]

And what should that tell you?

that you need to gather more info before you present your case cause you don't wanna blow your wad too early and be wrong or not have enough info to convince the rest of us?

[ZONEACE]

oh goodie, another turnip for the vegetable garden.


I NEVER ASKED FOR A REPLACEMENT, GET SOME DAMN READING COMPREHENSION BEFORE YOU START TYPING OK.


and no, i'm no OMGUS. Yamahako has been acting strange all day. SO, you're wrong again.

3 wrongs, don't make you right zorg.

[ZONEACE]

barring the mindnumbing syntax and spelling errors niv makes a lot of great points.

UNVOTE VOTE WHITE

its clear what we have to do today.

[ZONEACE]

could someone explain person c to me cause i'm a little lost. The vernacular has changed significantly in my absence.

[ZONEACE]

ok, my question then becomes, since it seems that some people are trying to claim "Person C" is always scummy, what if the the point A makes about B is valid and decent reason to vote for B? how is C scummy then?


sorry guys, i dont mean to keep asking about this, its just this is a completely new ideal to me (clearly the meta has changed).

[ZONEACE]

Who originally brought of Jester, and who was it referring to? First person to bring up Jester is probably scum, and if they're scum, they were probably defending a buddy with the Jester idea.

Except the first person to bring up jester brought it up in reference to me, and I'm not scum so they weren't doing it to defend a buddy.

[ZONEACE]

could we get prods on Aimee and Flare? thursday was Aimee's last post and its been a week for Flare.

[ZONEACE]

questioin, whats IMGEOY?

[ZONEACE]

Right. So now you work one job...

GET TO WORK D:<

ICE BURN

[ZONEACE]

Why is white scum again?

Why isn't White scum?

That's just

argumentum ad ignorantiam

. Nice try, though.

Actually it's more

argumentum ad ignoring your question

, but that's besides the point.

Now allow me to apply a bit of

ipsedixitism

and say "trust me on this one". I will probably be repeating this

ad nauseam

, so I would recommend that you get used to it.

I can quote fancy words in italics too

Pfft. Doesn't change the fact that your response was a blatant fallacy and that you are avoiding actually giving a case against White.

PYRAMID POWER

[ZONEACE]

This 32 page day 1 is hard enough to follow in English.

QFT

[ZONEACE]

I consider buddying up in all forms scummy. I guess a benefit to buddying up to lurkers is if you suspect them to be mafia and you buddy up to them then you end up doing their work for you. OTOH

lurkers are going to come out eventually or they'll be lynched (ideally)

and when the do come out they'll have (I guess) a warm feeling toward the other person for buddying up to them.

Generally I can't see how it's protown and buddying up is scummy (IMO) so there you have my reasoning.

TS, go scum hunt.

no, ideally scum will come out and they'll be lynched.


i'm happy with my vote

[ZONEACE]

there's still no F in my name guys. it hasn't changed.

[ZONEACE]

seeing as how it has been just about 4 weeks, i would support a deadline.

[ZONEACE]

isn't Niv also a mason???? he's voting White.


so your logic is flawed.

[ZONEACE]

umm it seemed to be from the conversation earlier in the day that all the 5 masons know who each other are, so if Simeon knew white was a mason, then logically so would Niv, which clearly isnt the case here.

FOS TS

you sure white isn't YOUR partner?

[ZONEACE]

yeah, what erg0 said also

[ZONEACE]

its called an ALT someone forgot to log out ovbiously.

[ZONEACE]

damn you erg0 STOP pre saying everything.

[ZONEACE]

As for Niv's vote, it looks from the previous post that he may not have kept up with the game, maybe he forgot White is his masonbuddy?

COUGHbullshitCOUGH

unvote VOTE TS

we can lynch white tomorrow.

[ZONEACE]

thats -3

[ZONEACE]

unvote vote white

i agree with MoS and seatel

[ZONEACE]

what would have been a better play lemming? outting yourself now, or investigating TS tonight and then based on that result deciding whether or not to out yourself?


oh and White is still the right lynch guys.

[ZONEACE]

Most of this post strikes me wrong, and I'm thinking that you're claiming cop just to survive a couple extra days. So

IGMEOY: TS

However, even a counterclaim won't prove TS scum, since we could have multiple cops. I'm willing to give TS a chance for now, but we need to watch her like a hawk. She'll slip eventually if she's scum.

Also notice that she *still* hasn't answered many of the accusations against her.

Unvote, Vote: Zorg

is this the post you're talking about?

[ZONEACE]

I'm at a loss. Is it the counterclaim comment? are you saying he was rolefishing?

[ZONEACE]

Better:
He's making it seem like he's counter claiming cop, but doesn't want to attract the nightkill. The "we could have multiple cops so no counterclaims" is a pretty obvious subclaim. But since we have two cops, the idea of MoS counter claiming is shot down.

This makes him by far the best lynch available.

Meh, i could buy that, but i still say white is the best lynch.

[ZONEACE]

whats dethy????


(sorry, more new words).

[ZONEACE]

could we just lynch white today, then get the cops results tomorrow and then lynch zeppo tomorrow? we need at least 7 on SOMEONE for the lynch to happen, and we all know a no lynch is better for the mafia than the town.

[ZONEACE]

Perhaps rather than have anyone being forcibly replaced now we could say that from now on anyone who swears is forcibly replaced?

fuck that

[ZONEACE]

White is at lynch -1, he seems to have vanished, and he's not claiming.

I see that as further sign that he is scum.

He's a -1 for a deadline lynch, a deadline thats 10 days away. theres a huge difference. Nice job with the facts though. you know what. TS probably is the way to go today. then white tomorrow.

unvote vote Toaster Strudel

[ZONEACE]

I can assure you, we're not making this multiple cop thing up. Some examples:

Mafia 51 had 2 cops (one sane, one insane) plus a semi-cop.

Mafia 59 had 3 cops.

Mafia 60 had 2 cops.

hell here's a Mini with 2 protown investigative roles

Mini85 Shadyville

if you can have 2 cops in a mini you can CERTAINLY have more than 1 cop in a large.

(man did i screw the pooch in that game)

[ZONEACE]

White was a lynch -1. ZONEACE here was among the voters.

Once again, your facts are flawed. He was at -1 for a DEADLINE LYNCH. That means he has to be AT 7 VOTES WHEN THE DEADLINE HITS. That deadline is still 9 days away. it wasnt like if he got 1 more vote he would be lynched and the day would end. That is not -1 my dear. You just keep making up facts, and claimed cop or no, making up facts is VERY SCUMMY. So i don't care that you claimed cop because you are making yourself look the scummiest, and to me, thats always a good person to lynch.

[ZONEACE]

hmm, did someone just accidentally post under their shiney new alt?

[ZONEACE]

You mean you aren't going to believe TS if she gets someone guilty?

i think niv was talking about me

[ZONEACE]

7 to lynch at deadline.

7 tornado

[ZONEACE]

In other news, can't make a detailed post until the weekend.

The day ends sunday so it better be early in the weekend.

[ZONEACE]

MULTIPLE COPS IS NOT BROKEN.


MULTIPLE COPS IN A GAME THIS SIZE IS COMMON.



This is something we need to understand and accept. That said.

vote lemming

you're still scum

[ZONEACE]

Multiple cops in a game is pretty broken unless they have different sanities, making it a sort of mini dethy, or the scum has some crazy roles to balance.

what am I misreading? you said multiple cops in a game is pretty broken, when its not. NOT AT ALL.


you keep intentionally misleading everyone.


can we please just lynch this scum?

[ZONEACE]

why are you so worried about the town having an advantage UNLESS AN TOWN ADVANTAGE PUTS YOU IN DANGER




listen you are so obviously scum its sad, you keep trying to distract the town with the stink you're raising about the cops, hoping we all won't see just how truly scummy you are. Can we please just kill this guy?

[ZONEACE]

and that changes the fact that lemming is scum how?

[ZONEACE]

so then lemming is the insane cop?

[ZONEACE]

or ts is the godfather?

[ZONEACE]

hey simeone, nice try, but I've attacked TS as well. yesterday, when no one wanted to have anything to do with lynching him, i was trying.


get your facts straight before you try to attack me

[ZONEACE]

un vote vote TS

I'd just like to point out the Simeon has no basis for his case, and if anyone would read what i was saying yesterday I was attacking TS already thinking she was lying.

[ZONEACE]

nervous, please, I've got less to worry about than you.

[ZONEACE]

also please keep this in the context of this game because I obviously was and I really don't want to hear obnoxious whining about what's goin on irl unless you are warning us about inactivity etc. (just in case)

what the fuck are you talking about?

[ZONEACE]

And you have yet to explain why attacking TS yesterday is relevant to my "case" on you.

Either I was Bussing her yesterday for no reason, or you have no case.

[ZONEACE]

it's not irrelevant. You're suggesting I'm scum, which would mean I'm TS's ally. Well, thats simply not true. And i'm attacking lemming cause i still don't believe him. I think they're both scum.

[ZONEACE]

I thought your "ahv got things to be nervous about" comment could have been about your life outside of this game and I honestly don't care.

and you need some damn reading comp. cause I said "i've got less to worry about than you" meaning, im less worried about being lynched tomorrow than you should be.


christ. it wasnt that fucking cryptic.

[ZONEACE]

ITS HONESTY


jesus, are you that stupid?

[ZONEACE]

yes, i am saying it's stupid to believe I'm scum.


congratulations you finally got something right.

[ZONEACE]

Then mafia is not your game.

oh i beg to differ. Im not saying ITS ALWAYS STUPID TO THINK IM SCUM. im saying in this game it is. and therfore, you're stupid.

[ZONEACE]

BECAUSE I'M CLEARLY TOWN.


meanwhile you're alignment is still in question. you are a mason, one of which is likely scum.


maybe we should lynch you now and save the confirmed scum for tomorrow. we wouldn't want you polutting the masons any longer.

[ZONEACE]

I've thought lemming suspicious ALL GAME, him claiming cop doesnt change that. and TS actions over the last day+ have made me believe she is scum.


ZOMG Logic.

[ZONEACE]

CIRKULAR ARCUMENT

NO ARCUMENT

[ZONEACE]

So you don't think there are any cops in this game?

Did I say that? way to put words into my mouth.


I think its ENTIRELY possible we have a cop who is a smart player that has decided not to out himself in the face of false cop claims so early in the game.


I also think Lemming and TS are likely not in the same scum group. they both made a stupid play yesterday and one of them has been caught today.

I'd suggest our doc protect the tracker tonight and that the tracker follows lemming. See if we can catch the other one tomorrow.

[ZONEACE]

CIRKULAR ARCUMENT

are you even trying?

you have no case, so I don't need to try. it refutes itself

[ZONEACE]

oh grat we're back to the day one clusterfuck of retardation

[ZONEACE]

woops, i meants great,

[ZONEACE]

10.) Avoid excessive profanity, flaming etc.

This is for Flameaxe and Simenon and anyone else whose vocabulary isn't extense enough that they have to resort to ad hom and cursing. It's been brought up by other players in this game so I know I'm not the only one who finds is obnoxious. Thank you for your cooperation.

oh lord, now the whiners are back.

could we lynch ts and get this useless day over with.

[ZONEACE]

Hmmm, ZONEACE, by your own statements, I agreed you were town, so therefore if you vote for me, you must be scum, right?

did i vote you?


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmm

nice try jack.

[ZONEACE]

you agreed that the attack on me day one was stupid, because upto the point where i was attacked i was using logical arguments. So how is it illogical to then distrust the person who attacks you after you agree with them?????

[ZONEACE]

If he's lying then we're trading an insane/paranoid cop for a scum. That works for me.

Seconded

[ZONEACE]

i thought there was hope for you bookitty, clearly i was mistaken

[ZONEACE]

BAD.

This is not endearing you to me.

WTF????????????????

[ZONEACE]

oh god i thought you were smarter than that.

it reads protect the tracker because lemming is naive/insane or scum and shouldn't be protected.

[ZONEACE]

and if hes not the gf then lemming is CLEALRY insane/naive or scum.

[ZONEACE]

and if hes not the gf then lemming is CLEALRY insane/naive or scum.

in which case MY PLAN IS THE RIGHT ONE.

[ZONEACE]

ToasterStrudel is a she. She is the alt account of a she. She has an another alt that is surprisingly a she.

and if you'll notice thats the first time i've referred to TS as a he so clearly it was a mistake.


jackass


is there a reason you continue to try and pick a fight?


you nitpicking my typing does not help the town. AT ALL.

[ZONEACE]

Don't be so touchy.

says the one nitpicking my typing mistake.

[ZONEACE]

HOW IS IT HARE BRAINED. its the right move if TS isn't the godfather. i guess i got a little ahead of myself in that aspect, but its FAR FROM HARE BRAINED.

[ZONEACE]

oh lord you people are just trying to make up excuses to suspect me now. christ, if you all want to lynch me that badly then grow some balls and vote that way. prove you have no clue what you're doing and go after a townie.

[ZONEACE]

Do you honestly think I'm scum? And do you honestly beleive that my plan is a bad one??????????????????


seriously. My plan is golden is TS is not hte GF. It sno tliek im somehow sabotaging the town by suggesting we do whats best.

[ZONEACE]

Once you fleshed it out it was fine. As originally presented it was not. I'm going to wait until the lynch and the night results before I assess your actual scumminess.

quit dodging the question. Do you think I'm scum? we've been at this now for 3 days, I've hardly hidden or lurked, you should be able to to have formed some sort of idea about my alignment by this point.

[ZONEACE]

Your plan is a bad one.

If ToasterStrudel is not the Godfather, then The Fonz lied about his investigation, and thus, should not be protected. Additionally, it doesn't prove that Lemming is scum. He might be an insane cop. In any case, it's not a good idea for the Mafia to know who will be protected, because they might actually miss a nightkill if they guess wrong.

Clear enough?

um how does it prove the fonz lied??????????????


explain that one.

[ZONEACE]

oh and I've been threatened with replacement if I don't apologize for for swearing.


Sorry guys.

[ZONEACE]

Ok i don't understand how any of the things you just said would show that the fonz is lying? The fonz said that TS didn't target anyone last night. Explain how he is lying if TS is the Godfather, and if TS ISNT the godfather, cause thats where you're losing me.

[ZONEACE]

specifically, what about the result SHOWS THAT THE FONZ IS LYING, cause the only thing that proves the fonz is lying is if TS turns up a cop.

[ZONEACE]

I'm ready for TS to be lynched.

at least someone is, since it seems everyone else is deadset on dragging it out.

[ZONEACE]

Your plan is a bad one.

If ToasterStrudel is not the Godfather, then The Fonz lied about his investigation, and thus, should not be protected.

Additionally, it doesn't prove that Lemming is scum. He might be an insane cop. In any case, it's not a good idea for the Mafia to know who will be protected, because they might actually miss a nightkill if they guess wrong.

Clear enough?

the bold part still says that if TS is just regular scum that the fonz is a liar.

[ZONEACE]

would you rather the power roles make the wrong move erg0 and escape teh possibility of being caught?

[ZONEACE]

If The Fonz says that TS didn't make a night action, and TS is claiming that she did, then clearly one of them is lying. If TS turns out to be a cop (ie. not The Godfather), then its The Fonz who is lying.

Neither Scenario proves or disproves Lemming (unless TS comes up a non-GF scum). Even an SK could be investigation immune...

the point im trying to make is that the only way the foz is proved a liar is if TS is proved as telling the truth. TS not showing up as Godfather does not prove the fonz is lying.

[ZONEACE]

Would you like to remove the possibility that the scum will make the wrong move? It cuts both ways.

frankly a tracker is more useful than an insane/naive cop, so i dont really care either way.

[ZONEACE]

After explaining things that I think are extremely simple for the last hour or so, I don't think I want you guiding the powerroles, ZONEACE. I think they probably have better insight into what to do than you do, and I prefer just to trust their judgment.

Scum have night actions too, ZONEACE. They're called nightkills. That said, no, if TS was scum, it's possible she wasn't the one doing the NK, so that doesn't make the Fonz a liar, as I clarified in a post I would have thought you'd read by now.

well if you had been clear the first time (ore the second) we wouldn't be having this problem, but you said something that was untrue in one post, then something else in another without ever acknowledging what you previously said was untrue.

[ZONEACE]

Can we please just lynch TS before people start advising the cop and the tracker too?

fonz, if TS doesn't turn out to be the GF, follow Lemming. Doc, if TS doesn't turn out to the be the GF (or a cop) protect the fonz.

[ZONEACE]

I think, after your original post arguing that we should protect the tracker no matter what, that you're not in the position to criticise someone for an incomplete argument. I note that I gave a complete and logically reasoned argument shortly afterwards, including every possibility I could think of. You've yet to do the same.

FOS: ZONEACE

for persisting in directing the play of the powerroles in the face of numerous reasons why he should not. Extremely anti-town.

yeah, the town is doomed. we really stand no chance at all.


wow.

[ZONEACE]

whoa, ether is in this game? I totally forgot.

[ZONEACE]

That's what I get for thinking I was caught up to like page 51, when I missed like the last 8 pages.

lulz

[ZONEACE]

and since when has the doctor been out?

[ZONEACE]

so if we combine the rolls you've claimed that makes you the copter?

[ZONEACE]

id like to see a dogcoptor

[ZONEACE]

someone's a little behind, obviously.

[ZONEACE]

GodCopTor - you may kill someone at night, you may protect someone at night. you may invistagee someone at night, and just beacuse your a helicoptor, you can only be killed if your asailent can fly

lulz

[ZONEACE]

Okay, based on a variety of things, most notably his insistence on directing the play of those with night actions, I'm going to

vote ZONEACE

I realise that this will be greeted with a chorus of people saying that he always plays like this and it's not at all scummy, but I find it scummy, and if he always plays like that, then he should learn how not to play so scummy as town.

and if you realize that had i been listened to our tracker would still be alive.




nice vote though, full of logic

[ZONEACE]

I'd still like to point out that had my advice been taken, our tracker would still be alive.

[ZONEACE]

I'd like to point out that had i been listened to, our tracker would still be alive.

[ZONEACE]

I'd like to point out that had i been listened to, our tracker would still be alive.

Quit fishing.

Also, since it's bound to come up at some point: I don't consider MoS's power role direction to be as bad as ZONEACE's.

how the hell was that fishing?

I'm certainly not trying to get anyone to claim. I was pointing out a simple fact. People are trying to claim my "directing powerroles" was scummy and I was just showing that had we listened to my direction we wouldn't be without our tracker.

[ZONEACE]

am i defending MoS hardcore?


come one BM don't let your personal issues turn into ignorance.

[ZONEACE]

no I was trying to antagonize everyone who told me I was scummy and that it was a bad Idea.

[ZONEACE]

personal relationships???? I keep seeing htis bullshit, I DON'T KNOW MoS. I HAVE NEVER MET HIM AND I RARELY SPEAK TO HIM OUTSIDE OF GAMES.


Bookitty you've been here how long?

you've played how many games with me?


PRECISELY YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ME OR MY PLAY. MoS does, why don't you defer to someone with a little more experience than you and stop making yourself look stupid

[ZONEACE]

oh i forgot.

vote bookitty

for general scumminess and overall unhelpfulness and bad play.

[ZONEACE]

Interesting theory.

I think it would be good if those not voting BM told us why that is the case.

because i like my vote on bookitty, although I'm always open to voting BM, so who knows.

[ZONEACE]

wait, yamahako's in this game?????

unvote vote yamahako

why are there SOOOO many lurkers all over the place?

[ZONEACE]

sorry that was a bad joke about the fact that he posts so infrequently and those few posts never contain much of anything.

[ZONEACE]

This thread needs more dead yams

[ZONEACE]

Vote : Zoneace

I realize you're knew to the game and all, so you may have missed it, but I'm town.

[ZONEACE]

shock of all shocks. BM thinks MoS and I are scum together.


get over it.

[ZONEACE]

i dont respond to lunacy.

But as i said to skruffs.

I realize you're knew to the game so you might have missed it, but I'm town.

[ZONEACE]

actually its -2 again erg0, elmo unvoted.

[ZONEACE]

oh shit duh, i misread Ether as Elmo on the last votecount

you are right
yams is at-1

carry on

[ZONEACE]

I think MoC is the only since I've been back MoS.