NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

[Titus]

This again. What did RC do?

[Titus]

You believed that? RC fakes cop in like every game ever unless cop is proven impossible.

[Titus]

RC does that shit like all the time.

Any other notable events?

[Titus]

I can see why the massive replace out though. No one wants to deal with RC's bullshit.

[Titus]

Since start of day. I never read on subbing in. I am usually the nk.

[Titus]

Well you're in a scum slot so I would understand not getting NKd.

I have even been NKed as scum before.

Plus, not scum. :-p

[Titus]

So if you all did lynch nero

A) what the hell yo

B) Are we going to lynch RC when he flips cop? Can we lynch mollie after that?

Yuck

Total misread of tone. He's saying Nero is likely a mislynch and this sets scum up for a good position.

[Titus]

Why would DN claim BP? Like at all. BP is what you claim after you think you're shot.

Wake and DN are likely not groupscum. Unless Wake emulates his scum meta real closely, I am inclined to pencil in Wake as town.

[Titus]

I remember asking what RC's plan was when Nero flipped Cop. I guess that question still stands.

I will be voting RC though no matter what happens.

Then why not vote him now?

[Titus]

I can see why the massive replace out though. No one wants to deal with RC's bullshit.

uhm no.

pisskop sexualized all of my interactions and I told him I wanted him to bathe with a plugged in toaster.

like we both were way worse than rc ever was.

but the cc of a town role cop is ugh.

Holy crap that needs to stop. Personal attacks not cool.

Link incoming.

@DN, VCA tomorrow.

[Titus]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64408

^^^ for mollie

@Mollie, when I do vca is size dependent

@RC, reads list you make no sense

[Titus]

I don't actually want a VCA, I was mostly just mocking Mollie for saying you always do it.

That's not something to mock. I do love VCA. The votes tell the story much more so than WHY they are placed usually.

[Titus]

Firebringer

JarJarDrinks

Wickedestjr

DeathNote

Titus

Nosferatu

pisskop

Keyser Söze

RadiantCowbells

pirate mollie

Wake88

Firebringer/Keyser are leaning scum but they are more null and wake is in that neighborhood with a flipped scum and a very likely SK so most likely town.

You think he's SK. Why? There's 2 nights of missing kills.

[Titus]

It is because Mollie is a sucker for Meta. If someone does something that she feels is meta dependent, then she makes sure to point out if it was missed. I think its a silly way to handle things.

Who cares if you VCA in this game? Like yeah, I know they can be useful but anyone can do it.

If I avoid VCA by day 4 in a large and day 3 in a mini and a scum lynch without a guilty happen, you should lynch me. VCA is my biggest tool.

[Titus]

Don't hastily vote someone who is obviously town if you don't want to be called out for not reading.

Yeah, you aren't obvious town RC.
You claim cop all the time, and you make ridiculous claims all the time.

You are ridiculous regardless of alignment, and I am voting you because you are likely scum.

How do you determine RC's alignment through the crap?

[Titus]

How do you determine RC's alignment through the crap?

Gut.

That is not helpful. You are the ONLY player I read based on gut. The only one. Talk to me.

[Titus]

The push on me today makes little to no sense and feels very scum motivated to me.

Little to no sense? You made a claim which got a PR lynched. You specifically said you wouldnt make the play cause it would get you "lynched halfway through the game". It's obviously something you should be expected to be scumread for.

RC thinks he's a special little snowflake and his gambits don't hurt town. When RC and I can hydra, I will show him how to do it.

[Titus]

Lol. No. I haven't misread you in awhile. Badass females. Pun mafia.

Which posts ping your gut?

[Titus]

Like seriously, what the shit is having a role cop and a cop on the same faction. normal review should have NEVER let that through. there's no effing way that it isn't seen as a CC.

That was not a fakeclaim FYI. I'm cop, and I checked Zulfy aka Titus last night. scum.

VOTE: Titus

Jesus RC we all know you do the craziest plays in existence

My scum plays are intended to get me to win the game, not get me lynched halfway through the game.
There's no scum motivation for me to fake a CC in such a way when I'm already super heavily townread. end of story.
I am cop. don't blame me for AP's cancerous setup design.

w/e I was going to fake a guilty on Titus for to see reactions but I don't think I'm in a position to do so RN so I retract.
I was RBed last night, no result.
Still should be pretty damn obvious that Zulfy knew that Nero was town and lined up two lynches after him.
Can we lynch it now?

This makes me think RC is town.

4554 is wifom.

[Titus]

4576 Desperation reeking.

Why would RC be desperate here? That would require a two man scumteam though...otherwise RC could just tell her buddy to bus and coast for cred?

[Titus]

So you think that myself and Titus are scum together? why don't you lynch the one that's not the fucking cop

I didn't say I think Titus is scum.

I said thats how she "gut" reads me. So she can buddy me.
Also, no way in hell you are cop.

Firebringer is voting me and claiming that he thinks that Titus is scum here.

Of the two, he is choosing to vote the cop.

That should not sit well with anyone.

This is sad RC, really sad.

My gut now likes you. Deal with it. :-p

My question is whether RC is an extreme narcissist or just scum. Wouldn't mind if he died. Teach him a lesson.

VOTE: RC

[Titus]

VOTE: Firebringer

This is priority lynch No. 1 I'm pretty sure.

I would take a bullet for FB.

[Titus]

-sigh- titus.

Why did you have to be scum.

In my past games, the mods fault.

Why ask me about past games? I am here. Sort me.

[Titus]

It is because Mollie is a sucker for Meta. If someone does something that she feels is meta dependent, then she makes sure to point out if it was missed. I think its a silly way to handle things.

Who cares if you VCA in this game? Like yeah, I know they can be useful but anyone can do it.

wow

dn is not town.

I don't need a cop investigation to know this.

I wish I was a double voter. I want DN and RC wagons competing.

[Titus]

Right, extreme narcissism.

You want to talk about preparing for town flips? that's preparing for a town flip.

You had exactly 2 votes on you at the time you made that post. And one of them was from DN who you are not townreading. Wanna try again?

pedit: and the other was from the place you just placed your vote.

I don't carry through cop guilties any more since I was WoTCed from a few games after a NY game where I correctly fakeclaimed cop and caused the scum team to forfeit.

Honey, you've pulled that so many times now. You got lucky once. You'd fake claimed cop more times more times this month guilties on me talah etc. If you're town, you gotta stop this. People hear guilty and scumhunting STOPS. Don't you get this? Like total stops.

[Titus]

I got bored halfway through.

RC isnt scum you funduddies.
Mollie, otoh, is still in the running. Can we now kill the scumzor mollie?

I don't wanna lynch Mollie. Scum Mollie would not have taken that aggressive stance. You want to lynch outside of RC. DN is available.

[Titus]

Titus, who did you replace?

Thecow. Well thecow did faphall, so do things.

Z dude.

@Fire, It's a bit of both.

[Titus]

I got bored halfway through.

RC isnt scum you funduddies.
Mollie, otoh, is still in the running. Can we now kill the scumzor mollie?

How is RC town?

I can always rely on you being Town Pisskop, help me!!!

Don't shit on my town read of you Fire.

[Titus]

Honey, you've pulled that so many times now. You got lucky once.

Find a game where I fake a guilty and didn't retract it and someone flipped town.

Go on, I'll wait.

It's

never

happened.

You'd fake claimed cop more times more times this month guilties on me talah etc.

I fake claimed cop on Taly for about 2 minutes to see how FA would react, and the reaction consecrated my FA townread.

FA was town.

Literally a fucking freebie.

Maybe if you weren't absolutely incapable of playing the game outside of one strategy where everything must align perfectly for you to not be useless you would be able to actually fucking read people.

How many times have you tried to mislynch me again? Do I need to make a fucking list here?

You have a reason. It fucks the game for everyone else. Bad bad bad. You need to learn, regardless of your alignment that it's not cool.

[Titus]

Titus, who did you replace?

Thecow. Well thecow did faphall, so do things.

Z dude.

@Fire, It's a bit of both.

Yo. Pisskop...I answered you.

[Titus]

Don't hastily vote someone who is obviously town if you don't want to be called out for not reading.

Yeah, you aren't obvious town RC.
You claim cop all the time, and you make ridiculous claims all the time.

You are ridiculous regardless of alignment, and I am voting you because you are likely scum.

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

Mollie, he's not disputing it.

[Titus]

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

I ain't hunting for links for you mollie.
Recently RC has:
Claimed he was mason with me in order to save me from getting mislynched, RC was scum.
Claimed he was a Bus Driver and got massive town credit for that lynch, RC was scum.

RadiantCowbells loves gambits more than I love AtE.

And I god damn love AtE

Claimed he tracked Taly to a kill as well...

Yet somehow I was turbolynched before I could post...

[Titus]

Like I don't give a shit if Titus is scum or not, she can't come replacing into my fucking games and picking a fight with me.

She's being deliberately antagonistic and if you can't see that you're blind.

Argh. Not picking a fight. People are annoyed with your shit.

[Titus]

It is because Mollie is a sucker for Meta. If someone does something that she feels is meta dependent, then she makes sure to point out if it was missed. I think its a silly way to handle things.

Who cares if you VCA in this game? Like yeah, I know they can be useful but anyone can do it.

If I avoid VCA by day 4 in a large and day 3 in a mini and a scum lynch without a guilty happen, you should lynch me. VCA is my biggest tool.

then why are you not doing it if it is anchor to how you navigate the game.

I usually do it Day 4 in larges but I can do it this evening if you color and spoiler all the VCs.

[Titus]

Claimed he tracked Taly to a kill as well...

Yet somehow I was turbolynched before I could post...

Just as well considering you were deathtunneled on Taly who was obviously town and my bank townread heading into the day.

Blame FA for not questioning ABR's quickhammer, not me. I called scum, you didn't. as usual. Starbuck ringing any bells?

I got you to lynch Fire that game.

God are you arrogant town cluessless and trying to prove your worth to me or scum flauting your anti-town behavior in my face?

[Titus]

@RC, Yeah, you were hellbent on Elyse or some other wagon that game. I stopped you.

No one wanted to lynch me. I felt zero pressure there.

UNVOTE: RC
VOTE: DN

I am going to go with you need a new base of reality RC. I am doubting you'd fight this hard to convince me of your worth if you were scum planning to mislynch me all along.

[Titus]

RC, if you want to be useful, grab and color the VCS for me. I got work this afternoon and I want to get the VCA done today.

[Titus]

I got bored halfway through.

RC isnt scum you funduddies.
Mollie, otoh, is still in the running. Can we now kill the scumzor mollie?

yes can we plz lynch me

I have hope for you that someday you will get better at mafia.

what do you think of titus always saying that she relies on vca and discards meta when she is using meta on rc right now?

what do you think of titus and fire saying that rc "always does this" when fire has yet to cough up a game and titus cld produce only 1?

these are the questions that you really shld be asking. but you want cos your deathtunnel fetish fanfiction is so much more appealing isn't it. LETS LYNCH MOLLIE COS FOR STUPID REASONS THAT NEVER APPLIED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

okay so we lost this game. yaye I can not care about it!! \o/

I am not using meta to determine RC's alignment. I was men policy with a chance of scum.

I am not lynching you or abandoning my VCA. You want it faster, color the VCs for me. I have to go soon for work.

[Titus]

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

I ain't hunting for links for you mollie.
Recently RC has:
Claimed he was mason with me in order to save me from getting mislynched, RC was scum.
Claimed he was a Bus Driver and got massive town credit for that lynch, RC was scum.

RadiantCowbells loves gambits more than I love AtE.

And I god damn love AtE

RC faked in a mini theme Myko hosted
RC may have faked a guilty on me in Chaos Omega's game (cannot remember)
The New York game she referenced herself


That's five right there.

[Titus]

God's sake Titus why the hell would I do that for you exactly?

You're either scum or being a complete ass rn.

VOTE: Titus

Titus just asked the person who they're 50% policy lynching and 50% scumreading to colour VCs for her.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Context fail.

I am TOWNREADING mollie. I don't want to lynch her like ever.

You're the policy/scumread. Shit like this post is why.

[Titus]

I linked myko's game Perviously mollie
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=64284

Here is the bus driver game.

I don't know the other games specifically but RC doesn't deny this at all. He does this mollie.

[Titus]

links?

I want more than 1 game. I mean if he does this "all of the time" it shldn't be hard.

I ain't hunting for links for you mollie.
Recently RC has:
Claimed he was mason with me in order to save me from getting mislynched, RC was scum.
Claimed he was a Bus Driver and got massive town credit for that lynch, RC was scum.

RadiantCowbells loves gambits more than I love AtE.

And I god damn love AtE

RC faked in a mini theme Myko hosted
RC may have faked a guilty on me in Chaos Omega's game (cannot remember)
The New York game she referenced herself


That's five right there.

can I have links plz?

1)http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64408

2)forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=64284&f=23&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&user_select%5B%5D=24645&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_select%5B%5D=0&user_sort=Go

Myko's game and bus driver, which I quoted before

The NY game men I don't think RC is lying about it but there's a town and scum one.

[Titus]

I got bored halfway through.

RC isnt scum you funduddies.
Mollie, otoh, is still in the running. Can we now kill the scumzor mollie?

yes can we plz lynch me

I have hope for you that someday you will get better at mafia.

what do you think of titus always saying that she relies on vca and discards meta when she is using meta on rc right now?

what do you think of titus and fire saying that rc "always does this" when fire has yet to cough up a game and titus cld produce only 1?

these are the questions that you really shld be asking. but you want cos your deathtunnel fetish fanfiction is so much more appealing isn't it. LETS LYNCH MOLLIE COS FOR STUPID REASONS THAT NEVER APPLIED IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!!

okay so we lost this game. yaye I can not care about it!! \o/

U say this but I keep seeing no reason not to.

how about you explore the law of gravity with a cable chord attached to the ceiling that is wrapped around your neck?

DO NOT MAKE POSTS LIKE THIS MOLLIE. THEY COME ACROSS AS WISHING IRL HARM TO HIM. I DOUBT YOU MEAN THIS. STILL PLEASE DON'T.

[Titus]

Titus or DN today, no exceptions. o3o

Why you defend RC so hard?

[Titus]

VOTE: RC

[Titus]

@Mollie, He was scum where he faked in 2. He had us thinking he was town bus driver.

@Pisskop, Scum Mollie let's me wait on VCA and murders or discredits me in the meantime. She doesn't push for it.

[Titus]

Requesting to replace out.

Looking back, I just can't commit to this game and its pace/fights, or any Mafia at all for that matter. It'd be unfair to everyone her if I stayed in when I know I can't invest.

Wake is town.

[Titus]

@Mollie, He was scum where he faked in 2. He had us thinking he was town bus driver.

@Pisskop, Scum Mollie let's me wait on VCA and murders or discredits me in the meantime. She doesn't push for it.

I am not waiting for it I think if you had any intentions on doing it you wld have done it by now

Bullshit. The thread has been open for like an hour. I have multiple games and a business to run.

So fucking help me if you want it.

[Titus]

Requesting to replace out.

Looking back, I just can't commit to this game and its pace/fights, or any Mafia at all for that matter. It'd be unfair to everyone her if I stayed in when I know I can't invest.

Wake is town.

Why did you switch votes to DN and why are you voting myself now?

Because I felt like it. Seriously, why do you care what I think? I am scum to you.

[Titus]

I already have but you're looking to nitpick.

I gotta go. I got an hour's drive ahead of me and a meeting at 4.

[Titus]

Titus replaces Zulfy, starting right now! Thanks Titus!

bullshit titus. you replaced in on monday you have had plenty of time. in prozacks game you had less time than that and you hit the floor running.

Prozac was day 5. I asked for special events there oo. You know why.

COPS FUCK WITH VCA!

[Titus]

Mollie, the slot literally slipped.

Vote with me?

Oh now you're making up slips as I head out the door.

[Titus]

So if you all did lynch nero

A) what the hell yo

B) Are we going to lynch RC when he flips cop? Can we lynch mollie after that?

Your slot revealed that it knew that the RC claim was legit and then tried to set up two mislynches.

I think we're done here?

Already answered that. Total misread. He was saying that Nero is town and this sets up the game for scum.

[Titus]

Besides, when I die my reads have a tendency of getting ignored.

There's lynches that need to happen and I don't trust you guys to pull your shit together.

you have your top 2 townreads wantng to lynch me based on derptard reasons I lost for a town win long ago.

if ap is not going to do a vc then okay. idgf

VOTE: titus

I only politely asked for it twice.

You will get the VCA as soon as I am able. I need my PC since no one is coloring the VCs like I asked.

Immediately after I post it, I will want to know your bottleneck spot. (that way no one can say I did the vca w answers in mind)

I just got out of jail for work.

[Titus]

VOTE: RC

Hammers.

[Titus]

who the fuck is lld? Usually they accuse me of being a GIF alt.

don't even try

VOTE: radiant cowbells

I donnae think he will flip town.

but ffs titus but it seems like she wld have nked me I think

no seriously who is lld, I can't find their profile using the search.

Lld is lady lambadelta

[Titus]

Nah, I am in favor of lynching you actually pisskop. You're deliberately pushing obvtown and fell for the second most obvious trick in the book.

I am about 95% sure you know RC's alignment.

[Titus]

@RC, Wasn't met for you darling. I was testing is pisskop was townbeard or scum.

Unlikely your fake guilties, fake hammers disrupt NOTHING.

[Titus]

*him*

Town Titus doesnt withhold vca.

scum titus skimps on it

What part of I am literally away from my computer do you pretend not to understand?

[Titus]

If someone colors the VCs, I can do it on the way home.

@pisskop, hammer was fake. I was already voting RC.

[Titus]

I see colored votes. Nero isn't colored but it's enough.

Yet, why isn't DeathNote in your lynches RC? I find it odd you have pushed dn is Sk yet don't plan to lynch him.

[Titus]

Assumptions: scum rarely bus day 1, I am town, if scum bus, they tend to be in the middle or back.

Looking at the major wagons that countered Dave. DeathNote and the cow are likely town slots. It can happen to have dueling scum lynches but rare.

Pisskop and Mollie are not both groupscum together more than likely.

FA is a decent cop check given her position opposite me as that would tell me a lot of what scum were planning then. I doubt we have one but *shrug*

Early rvs suggests scum didn't attempt to do much imo.

More details to come and probably more clarity as well.

[Titus]

If anyone hammers rc I will personally come to their house and smash their computer to pieces <3

Wow, the last game I was in, scum made almost this exact post. Very LAMIST.

Grab the posts please. What was the alignment of the lynch victim?

[Titus]

And what happened to you wanting to lynch PK Titus?

Still there. VCA enhances it. A scumflip from Pisskop practically townfirm Mollie.

[Titus]

Baaaaaah! You want sheep. You got it jarjardrinks.

Help me with Pisskop tomorrow?

[Titus]

Its almost like youve skimped on the vca.

Nah. I didn't format it heavily bc I wanted it out tonight. I got a few clears from it though.

[Titus]

Assumptions: scum rarely bus day 1, I am town, if scum bus, they tend to be in the middle or back.

Looking at the major wagons that countered Dave. DeathNote and the cow are likely town slots. It can happen to have dueling scum lynches but rare.

Pisskop and Mollie are not both groupscum together more than likely.

FA is a decent cop check given her position opposite me as that would tell me a lot of what scum were planning then. I doubt we have one but *shrug*

Early rvs suggests scum didn't attempt to do much imo.

More details to come and probably more clarity as well.

There you go.

[Titus]

Baaaaaah! You want sheep. You got it jarjardrinks.

Help me with Pisskop tomorrow?

Note the complete absence of taking any responsibility for her vote.

Nor explanation of why she likes your case.

Oh I am totally responsible for it. You are just scum or a distraction and I like jarjardrinks reasons for scum as they are likely unbiased by seeing this stunt over and over.

[Titus]

There you go.

What part of this explains why you're still voting me or why you want to lynch Pisskop?

Are you townreading Mollie?

I am voting you because you're scum or noise that needs to die. Probably scum.

As if that's not clear from the other 99 times I townread Mollie. Pisskop's push on Mollie is why I want him lynched. I townread her based on play and a Pisskop scumflip townfirms Mollie.

[Titus]

Tell me specificly which VCs clear which players, and stop pretending youve included more information than you have.

My VCA is pretty clear unless you dispute DN and TheCow counterwagoing Davesto and you two being in the middle in bussing sweet spots on Dave.

[Titus]

Help me with Pisskop tomorrow?

fo sho

Thanks. Now, let's recruit Mollie to help us. Inb4 Titus paranoia

[Titus]

Jarjar is literally the least helpful player around if town.

IF youre scumreadong me you need to sit down and talk about it. Youre discrediting me and lynching everyone else.

You went after obvtown with shit reasons. You reveal a lot about the game if scum. You are hard defending obvscum RC.

That's all I need.

[Titus]

You are hard defending obvscum RC.

How did I go from scum/noise to obvscum?

This conversation with jarjardrinks and I.

[Titus]

Tell me specificly which VCs clear which players, and stop pretending youve included more information than you have.

My VCA is

pretty clear

unless you dispute DN and TheCow counterwagoing Davesto and

you two being in the middle in bussing

sweet spots on Dave.

Titus, Ive hoghlighted the worst parts of your statment. Theyre all bad. Your 'VCA' is 1 post about assumptions and the wagon on dave was dismantled and reassembled, but you appartently left that part out because it wasnt convenient for you.

VCA my ass, how the hell do you miss 3 people leaving and rejoining a wagon but claim to have done VCA?

People leave and join wagons all the time. It's natural. It's the choices people make that are telling. I can say FB and dn are not likely groupscum (and I don't believe an SK) due to wagons. Then, I look at who started early, they get points.

RC claimed cop day 2 from gist. Pisskop and Mollie were wagons. Pisskop and RC hard defend each other. Both on mollie wagon. I would say RC claimed cop to save Pisskop but I haven't read and allegations without reading are meh.

[Titus]

3 people getting off a late-game wagon isnt subtle. Youre actually claiming to have reasons extracted from a vca?

This isn't late game. It's mid game.

Second, yup. I love telling narrative with vca. It's a fail safe I have.

[Titus]

Let's see if I am right. What was the VC when RC claimed cop?

[Titus]

Let's see if I am right. What was the VC when RC claimed cop?

RC rather than flail and push made up shit, you can answer this.

[Titus]

I love how scum is trying to make me fetch VCs for her.

pedit yea pretty much.

You could just fetch your cop claim and I could figure it out. My eyes are bleeding from spam.

[Titus]

Like I don't understand this god awful insistence that I have to get lynched today when I still have a shot.

Voting me today should be basically scumclaiming imo.

But there's way worse votes and half of them have no explanation, especially Titus FB & Keyser.

Oh I forgot this shot thing reminded me. InuYasha scumclaim change to shots.

[Titus]

Youre welcome to lay out a case.

If you die we can frankly pummel the shit out of titus and mollie, so Im not going to vote you but it clears me even more and makes titus/key look worse.


pedit: did titus just claim that not fullclaiming is a scumclaim? no kidding.

Revising the claim is. Every time I have seen a "full cop" or full friendly neighbor change the shots they have. It's scum. Every time.

[Titus]

RC, why not just grab the post where you cced? That way I can see if PK was in danger.

For all the defense you put in for PK, I would have expected him to be your clear.

[Titus]

Vote Count 2.15

pisskop (5) - Wickedestjr, Keyser Söze, pirate mollie, JarJarDrinks, DeathNote
pirate mollie (4) - pisskop, Nero Cain, Zulfy, Nosferatu
DeathNote (2) - RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99

Not voting (3) - Wake88, TheCow, Fro99er


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Angry Pidgeon why have you forsaken me?

My God, my God, why have You forsaken me? Far from my deliverance are the words of my groaning.

also VC coming up. Sorry for being AFK the last couple days, everyone. I was just kinda stressed out thinking about this but Im going to be responsible.


Vote Count 2.16 (Final)

Nero Cain (8) - Fro99er, RadiantCowbells, Dwlee99, Nosferatu, DeathNote, pisskop, JarJarDrinks, pirate mollie
pirate mollie (1) - Zulfy
pisskop (1) - Keyser Söze
Zulfy (1) - Nero Cain

Not voting (3) - Wake88, TheCow, Wickedestjr


With 14 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch!

(expired on 2016-01-18 23:59:59)

Yeah the Pisskop wagon ended up on the tail end of Nero which presumably had major factors bc RC claimed cop. There was quite a bit of middle jumping but it's almost midnight. Will double check tomorrow.

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Wait, so your logic is that I fakeclaimed as cop, ensuring my own lynch, to protect PK?

Why the hell wouldn't I have just shoved the Mollie wagon through earlier in the day?

That's literally the least fathomable thing I ever heard.

I am not sure how you could have tried any harder to save Pisskop d2. You literally failed to push Mollie through. You also claimed FA was town, never lynch FA. Then voted her. Your ISO reads like you would die for PK but checked Aero... Really?

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@Keysor, I agree with your walls but one thing. I AM lining up lynches. After RC goes, Pisskop goes. I am like 99.9% certain they are buddies.

[Titus]

@Keysor, I agree with your walls but one thing. I AM lining up lynches. After RC goes, Pisskop goes. I am like 99.9% certain they are buddies.

Titus, you havent come up with those conclusions to vca youve promised.

I very much did.

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@Wicked, If I could, I wouldn't say Gut.

@Pisskop, I said your push on Mollie has been shit like 5 times now.

[Titus]

Yes. There's no way you believe it. It's one thing to e wrong. It's another to push something inconsistent on its face.

I said Mollie was obvtown for demanding my VCA. You flail and say my read on Mollie isn't good enough. Then, you're pushing me to repeat myself over and over when everyone else gets my conclusions. You're taking Mollie's issue after it is a non issue and spamming the thread. You're not pushing anything you believe.

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Im not sure where the townread of thecow/fire has come. Fire's typically aggressive when poked as scum, but I havent seen him as scum since . . . we were scum together in killalltownies.

No. He's not. He pleads with me to townread him. As town he's idgaf.

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Yes. There's no way you believe it. It's one thing to e wrong. It's another to push something inconsistent on its face.

I said Mollie was obvtown for demanding my VCA. You flail and say my read on Mollie isn't good enough. Then, you're pushing me to repeat myself over and over when everyone else gets my conclusions. You're taking Mollie's issue after it is a non issue and spamming the thread. You're not pushing anything you believe.

Get bent.

YOU, the one who successfully apathied the town into a lynch on Senator in StarTrek mafia, are talking about how Im pushing nonissues or too hard? Get real.

I was town in Star Trek and you might as well have been scum "Senator". That's irrelevant though. Everyone has bad games.

You're just spamming and I am done.

[Titus]

@Mollie, I did the initial vca last night.

If traffic is light, I may be able to refine it some more but DeathNote and TheCow (now Firebringer) are totally town. RC and pisskop are in the sweet bussing zone. One of you pisskop is scum MAX. Given pisskop RC are highly likely buddies, you are damn near conftown.

[Titus]

sweet bussing zone

wat?

Middle of acum flips is the sweet bussing zone.

[Titus]

Except the wagon was disasembled, taking 3 people out of it and ruining the order.

The assessment is done later. It's irrelevant. Second, the tail end is the next place to look.

The wagons in vca have you in 3 and 4 spots if I recall correctly

Vca is my thing.

You are in bussing zone.

~Titus

[Titus]

Keysor, we are lynching RC today. Period. We lynch Pisskop tomorrow. Period.

Don't get distracted.

Pisskop, VCA is my thing. You are. End of discussion. I haework.

[Titus]

Post 5183 is near perfection. The only thing I disagree with mollie on was that it was anti-town to post it.

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@Mollie, My bad impression. It does look a bitrushed. DoingVCA at diners/between court dates will do that. I have intended to polish it up but hours on the road is a pain the the ass. It is finished, just not presented well. :S Anything to the otherwise is my bad on being unclear.

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Post 5183 is near perfection. The only thing I disagree with mollie on was that it was anti-town to post it.

it was anti-town to post what? my post?

Right. You were like Pisskop was going to call you anti-town for it. And I am like nope. CallingPisskop out isn't anti-town like at all.

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Also, remember the way Zulfy slot jumped on you early D1?

That scum flip would pretty much clear you as well, no?

So would lynching you but you know we are town. No one needs to prove mollie town. She is

I will be back in 3 and a half hrs traffic cooperating

[Titus]

Plz no hammer till I can polish vca. At red light ATM. Give me 2 hours.

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jailkeeper does not prevent investigations.

ascetic does.

either I was roleblocked, you were rolestopped (which I doubt), or you are ascetic.

your lynch will immediately follow mine.

Oh wow I got demoted from next lynch.

Boo cuz Pisskop said I hadn't said it.

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So the main reason thats bullshit is because it is soooo much more likely and easier to just say you were roleblocked instead of assuming something like Ascetic.

My initial reaction would always be roleblocked

then maybe my target was jailed or something

. Ascetic is so far down the list. You are just hugging to that because you don't want to lose credit by dropping your guns. In reality, you are just scum who is trying to survive another day because thats a huge win for you and your team.

You can investigate jailed targets. Are you talking about your SK kill?

hey guys call me crazy but this is what an actual scumslip looks like!

Y go slow

[Titus]

Explanations ppl

[Titus]

Why are the posts slips?

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So the main reason thats bullshit is because it is soooo much more likely and easier to just say you were roleblocked instead of assuming something like Ascetic.

My initial reaction would always be roleblocked then maybe my target was jailed or something.

Ascetic is so far down the list. You are just hugging to that because you don't want to lose credit by dropping your guns. In reality, you are just scum who is trying to survive another day because thats a huge win for you and your team.

He might be thinking of his own role that is able to kill people instead of an investigative.

Slower. You just said he might be SK. Why? What language?

[Titus]

The part of his role being blocked by jailers.

Every role but strongman is blocked by jailors. #confused
If said target is in jail, then they can be acted upon.

[Titus]

Oh and I am home. Time to get to pretting my VCA.

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Assumptions: scum rarely bus day 1, I am town, if scum bus, they tend to be in the middle or back.

Looking at the major wagons that countered Dave. DeathNote and the cow are likely town slots. It can happen to have dueling scum lynches but rare.

Pisskop and Mollie are not both groupscum together more than likely.

FA is a decent cop check given her position opposite me as that would tell me a lot of what scum were planning then. I doubt we have one but *shrug*

Early rvs suggests scum didn't attempt to do much imo.

More details to come and probably more clarity as well.

4903 has the colored VCS minus Nero.

Look at 1.1. The lack of wagon momentum suggests scum were not active in RVS.

Mental note: RC coloring Wicked in green and Nero as white is a shit ton of wifom.

1.5 is a major wagon that has tc (prob town), Frogger, Nos, wake (protown), and pisskop in what would be the middle if it went to lynch. If dwelee is scum, major pisskop Fos.

Wicked early voting Dave suggests town but duh.

1.13 Death and Dave Counter each other. It's highly unlikely both are scum. The FA wagon from earlier would have been pushed more. FA plus DN is frankly too moonlogicky for me and not supported by later events.

1.14-1.15 Dave and TC counter each other. RC is in early bus mode. Dave vote on pisskop reeks of distancing here. He's ignoring his wagon and placing a vote on somewhere not likely to go.

The only other vote Dave placed was RVS which is null.

2.6 is where Pisskop v FA fares. RC is again in the muddle zone. She normally takes no prisoners and is leader but here she waflles around lynches. The pisskop wagon is all town by play.

We see this continues until sudden Nero wagon. This is wtf. That wagon wasn't organic but suggests a action to save Piskop as pisskop wagon has similarities to Dave.

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No. miller can exist as either. And since there was no alignment in the role there no reason to believe he is confed.

can you point me to the game where you saw a scum miller? I mean I have seen scum claim to be miller but I haven't actually seen a scum miller flip it wld have to be advertised as a bastard game since it wld be misleading mod info based on roles.

wicked and wake slot are both probably confirmed town but I probably need to look up the rules and set up design for normals. it doesn't help that both slots have been lazy and apathetic but wicked did post before the end of the previous day round so there is that. we just need to find a way to get him engaged and focused.

Honestly, all the fighting and bitching sucked the fun out of it for me. It's really tough trying to make sense of the gamescape when the thread is flooded with posts and spats. Just being honest.

Help me lynch RC and Pisskop. No more drama then.

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did we all casually forget mollie's extreme anti-town behavior along with literally using frogger like a disposable cellphone to avoid getting lynched yesterday?

@Titus: What do you mean when you say pk's wagon is similar to dave's?

Same names.

I never read that.

Do you think RC is scum? If so, vote her. No shiny distractions. I think Mollie is obvtown and have less than zero desire to vote her.

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Who are you proposing we wagon instead?

I could do DeathNote, Keyser, or Mollie.

Do you think RC is scum? If so, vote her. No shiny distractions. I think Mollie is obvtown and have less than zero desire to vote her.

Note distancing from my town flip by calling me a shiny distraction as opposed to scum.

Backwards. Everyone but you and PK are the distractions. Context.

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Spoiler:

Why do we need a graph of france's gdp to show why higher taxes in america hurts growth?

Can we maybe lynch Daves first?

110 this.

We aren derailing this lynch; and sure as pootin' aint dong it before he claims.

Dont yo guys know how awful last minute wagon-switches are?

We arent doing it, because its weaker. For the 'hypotheticals' I put foreward and more.


Dave is going to claim, and we are going to move on from there.

Its sub optimal play because its more complex than it needs to be, it allows for the introduction and implementation of flawed play, and there's literally no reason any point you've raised about why Dave can wait that doesn't equally apply to why dwlee can.

Its weaker. Its subpar, it doesnt do anything but wifom up the game.

You wanted to wagon dwlee, we had all game to.

Why did scumPK fight to get people back to Dave?

Wheels on the charisma bus go round and round round and round.

[Titus]

Hey I am going to be out for some parts of tomorrow.

Can we keep the posting to a minimum? I am behind in all my games and this doesn't help.

[Titus]

Who are you proposing we wagon instead?

I could do DeathNote, Keyser, or Mollie.

Do you think RC is scum? If so, vote her. No shiny distractions. I think Mollie is obvtown and have less than zero desire to vote her.

Note distancing from my town flip by calling me a shiny distraction as opposed to scum.

what happened to your confscum read on titus?

lemme guess you just wanna lynch whoever you can as long as they are not on your scumteam.

nos/lld you are such a nasty piece of work but I bet no1 will give a shit that you are playing directly against your wc cos I know that if you are town you wld know that I was too but by all means hide behind passive aggressive alt hiding bs

Mollie, calm down. This is a game where scum aren't going to bus unless forced to. RC and Pisskop are scum that need to be lynched by town unity. I don't know who the other scum is/are. Yelling at people and saying they are pieces of work will not be effective.

Let me guide these lynches. I trust you. Let me do this.

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@Mollie, I do apologize for if I came across as patronizing. That's not how I meant it. I know that you and I bring different skills in different situations. At no point will RC and Pisskop bus each other. No amount of being nice will cause this to happen. Today is about directing and unifying town, which is much more my speciality. You can charm scum into bussing. That just won't happen. I am not telling you not to post, but I am asking you not to call people pieces of work even if it's true.

Second, the whole Nero Cain comment is confusing as shit. I avoided this game until Nero Cain is gone because Nero basically just always disagrees with what I want. So the fact you wanted RC over Nero is frankly good, but irrelevant to my analysis and I am confused as to why you'd bring it up.

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RC votes are acceptable during "game pause" according to me.

Seriously, not pausing game. Pausing spam yo.

You're out posting me by 4-5 to 1. I know I was driving for like 6 hours yesterday but damn it's too much.

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Y? Why should I vote titus?

You are already voting Titus.

This is a pisskop-Dwlee99 mafia distancing attempt gone wrong



13 more days of this lads!

Not if you help me just end the day.

Wakey wakey. Help me help you. Vote RC.

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Hey Dwelee, I wanna make a bet with you. You vote RC. She flips red. You unquestioningly give me your vote until I am wrong. If I die, you give your vote to Mollie until she's wrong.

If RC flips green, you get my vote until you're wrong or you make me follow one townread of your choice if you're the nightkill.

Sole condition: no requiring self voting.

I am that confident I am right and that RC is scum. I want this day over no no 6000 posts.

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Hey Dwelee, I wanna make a bet with you. You vote RC. She flips red. You unquestioningly give me your vote until I am wrong. If I die, you give your vote to Mollie until she's wrong.

If RC flips green, you get my vote until you're wrong or you make me follow one townread of your choice if you're the nightkill.

Sole condition: no requiring self voting.

I am that confident I am right and that RC is scum. I want this day over no no 6000 posts.

Can I take this deal?

You could but I would like it open to people not scumreading RC to get this day over with. :s

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Keyser, this is the point where I'd probably call you several nasty things to emphasize just how low my opinion of you is under other circumstances.

I remind everyone that Keyser has never really shared a read on Zulfy!Slot but is defend Titus. Conversely, Titus has shared no read on Keyser either.

Almost no back and forth between either of the slots this game.

If you don't lynch one of them tomorrow then you all deserve to lose.

Keysor is town. :-p

[Titus]

You guys even read what RC wrote out?

But I wanna kill titus and mollie . . .

And honestly.

No. You are getting lynched tomorrow.

[Titus]

We are not lynching outside of Dwelee Pisskop DN right now.

[Titus]

Will read and analyze the rest today but for now road calls.

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We are not lynching outside of Dwelee Pisskop

DN

right now.

Strong in favor ofpisskop but group think bad. I wanna talk to people before I rule it out in a think out loud fashion but I have work.

[Titus]

After glancing at colored vcs pk looks suspicerous

But I am town nos :/

sk. I am very doubtful he is groupscum

Can you post revised ones with new flips for me?

[Titus]

I am wanting to lynch Pisskop today but have Mollie and I hammer.

I want to eliminate moon logic scenarios. However, discussing them here would likely detract from lynching Pisskop which is what we need to do.

Although Dwelee is posting total crap attacking townreads, he's using facts in the thread.

Mollie, if you are willing to look into my moonlogic scenarios not involving you scum. That would be great.

Keysor, I would like you to look into moon logic scenarios involving Mollie. (I don't want to ankle bite her but at the same time, I want to eliminate things.)

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moon logic?

OK, this is damn near a town tell. Scum RC would inform you of moon logic and that it's my biggest strength and weakness.

I work by eliminating possibilities and working from there. Moon logic are scenarios that are possible but are remote.

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Keysor, I wanna lynch Pisskop today. Not saying Dwelee is obvtown but we can only lynch one scum today and Pisskop is the worst. So yeah, you're probably not wrong but *bats eyelashes* please.

[Titus]

Pisskop will spam and make noise until he dies.

[Titus]

Tonight more VCA.

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You say Ive been deathtunnelling mollie, but want claim that Im settuing mollie up by scumreading her? you want to have/eat your cake.

huh?

- You deathtunnel mollie all game
- mollie pushes the nero lynch
- nero gets hammered
- pretty much the whole town agrees that nero is scum cause of the RC counter
- So now you have to temporarily drop ur deathtunnel cause a red nero makes mollie look pretty good.
- But you actually know that he will flip green and can continue your deathtunnel the next day. Hence the quoted posts.

whatever floats your boat ragaholic.

I was pushing mollie for his shit nero push since he started ignoring nero's Qs.

If you arent going to actually read and consider the possibilites just stop trying. I dont have the energy to go back and keep retrieving all the posts about how shitty a nero lynch would look for mollie, but your cherry picking is noted.

Remind me about this interaction later.

[Titus]

More Pisskop votes please.

[Titus]

Hey guys. There's a helluva lot of pages to work through so give me around 2 days.
Looking forward to playing with you all.

YES

plz be town. are you town? plz be town.

I don't think I am crazy about pisskop.

We 100% agree on Pisskop. Tomorrow we might fight a bit (as I am leaning Pisskop/Dwelee) but today, we ride.

[Titus]

Hey, Dwelee, why aren't you voting Pisskop? We can layout moonlogic before I hammer. :nod:

[Titus]

Nos too but not as directly.

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titus why are you not voting pisskop?

I want hammer.

I want to throw out moon logic scenarios, some real some not and have my townreads find evidence I am wrong during the night phase.

I do it now, I might just confuse everyone. By hammering, I can ensure that they get mentioned but not detract from lynching cop.

[Titus]

*kop lmao

[Titus]

Next person who wants to vote kop say so please so kop cannot quickhammer. Ty.

[Titus]

Yo titus what you want me to do rn?

You're already voting pisskop...

[Titus]

Mod: I have to sub out. Accidental mistake we can discuss post game.

[Titus]

Gg

At least you didn't want to shoot the traitor Robster.

[Titus]

Can we see pts?

[Titus]

Plus really don't feel bad roster. Fb never trusts me. He was bound to jail our slot.

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Plus really don't feel bad roster. Fb never trusts me. He was bound to jail our slot.

I trusted you in Hidden Temple
And Mania Whatever its name is Pie and Sakuras game

By the end, you didn't. Shelf life.