NY 191: Denmark Mafia - Endgame

[Shinobi]

loving that mod vote

This seems like the sort of thing that scum would comment on early on.
VOTE: Heat

On a different note, hello everyone.

[Shinobi]

I'm feeling fantastic - first time being town in several games.
How are you?

[Shinobi]

well nice ! finally somebody asked

MarioManiac deserve to be pushed. I think he voted for mod just to say "hey! I wasn't sirious back there when I said my vote is half sirious!" or something like that ... which I don't like.

you talk to much (well - I'll try sorting you out later)

Elyse was to fast to accept the case against Mario so I think we need to look an eye on her.

and I just don't like when people start the game with this sentence : "Hello ! I'm town! " - It get me a very bad feeling ...

Notsicence checked and didn't voted.

and I'm desperately waiting to see my L... Rc

I don't like this post either.
Too many suspects for faulty reasons - reeks of scum trying to spread doubt.

Add this one to my current list.

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well nice ! finally somebody asked

MarioManiac deserve to be pushed. I think he voted for mod just to say "hey! I wasn't sirious back there when I said my vote is half sirious!" or something like that ... which I don't like.

you talk to much (well - I'll try sorting you out later)

Elyse was to fast to accept the case against Mario so I think we need to look an eye on her.

and I just don't like when people start the game with this sentence : "Hello ! I'm town! " - It get me a very bad feeling ...

Notsicence checked and didn't voted.

and I'm desperately waiting to see my L... Rc

I don't like this post either.
Too many suspects for faulty reasons - reeks of scum trying to spread doubt.

Add this one to my current list.

I did a quick skim of her scumgame. My impression is that she's more serious as scum.

Take a quick look and let me know what you think?

I'm looking now. Mini 1737, yes?

well nice ! finally somebody asked

MarioManiac deserve to be pushed. I think he voted for mod just to say "hey! I wasn't sirious back there when I said my vote is half sirious!" or something like that ... which I don't like.

you talk to much (well - I'll try sorting you out later)

Elyse was to fast to accept the case against Mario so I think we need to look an eye on her.

and I just don't like when people start the game with this sentence : "Hello ! I'm town! " - It get me a very bad feeling ...

Notsicence checked and didn't voted.

and I'm desperately waiting to see my L... Rc

I don't like this post either.
Too many suspects for faulty reasons - reeks of scum trying to spread doubt.

Add this one to my current list.

my only *people who I want to pressure on* (not suspects - maybe a bit suspects) are Elyse - Mario

your unhappy becuase I said I don't like when people start the game with that sentence?

No, because you have too many suspects for faulty reasons.
I don't think this follows the train of thought you just presented either - you talked about NS and RC in yet offered nothing of substance regarding them. What are they to you and why are you bringing them up?

Pedit - man you guys talk fast.

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Grib, do you have enough knowledge of FA to know whether or not seriousness is exclusively a scumtell or is that just one different thing you picked up on between here and there?

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NS is just someone who needs to be looked at.

and RC was my partner in the game your currently reading - we have a background!

I never stated I'm scum reading them , did I?! so why are you putting words in my mouth sir ?

"I want to keep an eye on him" implies that you think he's suspicious.
If you don't actually think he's suspicious, what is the point of saying this?

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your trying hard to make something out of my poor vocab don't you? I mean there was stuff going in game. then suddenly we saw a post from him and bye! I'm curiou to see his next move.

and RC! I'm just curious about him...


SO what are you really trying to achieve here?

>:|

[Shinobi]

Alright, let's try this - if you think nothing of a person, why not ask them a question instead of wasting posts and pages saying nothing?

[Shinobi]

This entire conversation has turned into a waste of time but I feel like I'm going to get tunneled for blowing it off at this juncture.
So I must continue talking in circles with someone who doesn't realize they're talking in circles.

Fun. \o/

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You are both probably town.

What do you think of Heat?

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RC I love the limerick. I can't say I'm a fan of the ending though </3

I'm definitely liking what Grib is putting out right now. Shinobi too.

But I'm voting you.
Can you elaborate on any of this?

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And give any other reads you have, because those two simply aren't enough in terms of reasoning or insight.

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RC I love the limerick. I can't say I'm a fan of the ending though </3

I'm definitely liking what Grib is putting out right now. Shinobi too.

But I'm voting you.
Can you elaborate on any of this?

I'm on my phone so this won't be too in depth, sorry
The exchange between you and FA, mainly. For you it's just sort of a gut town read. I don't really like FA though. I know other people said that she seems more collected as scum, but I get the feeling that she's really frazzeled and is just sort of making noise rather than actually looking for scum.

P.edit: yeah it looks like she's just making noise

Does that make her scum? What of it?
What other reads do you have?

Could you link the game?

'Mario was mislynched once, therefore he probably isn't scum' doesn't work by itself.

+1
That davsto post was kinda scummy tbh.

[Shinobi]

Will catch up after MtG tourney tonight.

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Nah, I lied. I'm just gonna do stuff right now since I'm feeling pretty good and I want to talk about stuff.
(I'm aware dav has asked me a question but I'll answer it later.)

I've just skimmed through the whole thread since my last post..

I like MarioManiac4's case against Dwlee99 in post 322

Fire, let's be Painbringer. Double voting masons.

RC, I think I can read you well enough.

I would, but I kinda get the feeling your buddying me.
No way you already are town reading me.
Thats insane even for you.

No it's not. But OK, you'll see I can legit read you.

I think Titus was just messing around in 268, but I can understand why Firebringer might think otherwise and might think Titus is scum trying to get buddy with him.. What really bugs me is how Titus takes a defensive stance in 274.

What about that case did you agree with, particularly? It read like a bunch of nitpicky dribble to me.

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Vote: Grib

Espo.
Talk to me.

What's going on with this?

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Actually:

And it draws people's reactions cause they will say things like "How can you do a VCA without flips".

Did you manage to get anything out of it?

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This game gets remarkably big rather quickly.
Catching up again.

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This is essentially telling me nothing, though. What kind of reactions were you looking for and what would that have told you about anything? You keep harping on your end goal being "reactions" and that's all of what you've given me.

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I've caught up on the game and I'm not liking Dwlee. His case on Mario is (self-admittedly) OMGUS:

Mario's misreps and terrible case make me lean heavily scum on him. Like that case was the worst case I have ever seen.

Okay, but why is it the worst case you've ever seen? What are some examples of the misreps? Are you going to respond to Mario's case itself besides calling it bad?

VOTE: Dwlee

I don't understand how this warrants a vote, exactly. What's the problem you're raising here?

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Vote: Grib

Espo.
Talk to me.

What's going on with this?

It's above it.

Not buying the mario wagon so counter is still up for grabs until the dav wagon took off which I haven't looked at yet.

I don't get it.

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I'm caught up.
Heat is still scum, nothing has changed.

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What is your Dave read?

BTW I am back home. Time to show my menu. Cuz I am a terrible baker.

I don't want to lynch him.

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What is your Dave read?

BTW I am back home. Time to show my menu. Cuz I am a terrible baker.

I don't want to lynch him.

Why?

Because lynching high output players on day 1 is almost always a bad idea.

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What is your Dave read?

BTW I am back home. Time to show my menu. Cuz I am a terrible baker.

I don't want to lynch him.

Why?

Because lynching high output players on day 1 is almost always a bad idea.

What about Dave is "high output"? He's here but he's not scumhunting. Those are the best lynches.

Lurkers are terrible d1 lynches unless active lurking.

He's totally scumhunting though.
Pedit - stop posting drivel if it's not going to accomplish anything.

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You've basically disregarded the fact that he has a case on someone and is pushing it. How is that not scumhunting?
And that's besides the fact that saying someone isn't scumhunting is almost entirely subjective and meaningless in and of itself.

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You've basically disregarded the fact that he has a case on someone and is pushing it. How is that not scumhunting?
And that's besides the fact that saying someone isn't scumhunting is almost entirely subjective and meaningless in and of itself.

No it's not. He's not pushing a case but trying to divert attention from himself. It took wagoning him to get him to even pick someone as scum.

Even then, his pushes weren't designed to inquire about alignments but just to provide an alternate suspect.

A townie doesn't resist when asked for reads unless there's nothing to comment on. That's hardly the case.

What's the difference, exactly?

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Yeah I don't really see it.
Sorry, not happening.

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Fuck off Titus.

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Titus is a townlean but she's not that high up, especially since I don't have objectively strong reasons to leave her up there for long.

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No, we're lynching Heat.

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Wtf. You voted them in RVS for posting something about someone mod voting and have just been randomly talking about them here and there like "they're still scum".
WHY CAN'T WE LYNCH THE STACHIO. ;-;

It's not like he's done anything to warrant leaving him alone.
Are you implying a townread or some reason to not lynch him?

I can concede that I should (and will) look into your lynch target but aside from what I've presented, what else is there?

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Cool, Titus is town, too.

Why

She's pushing things that don't make sense.

No, we're lynching Heat.

Do you have any other issues with Heat besides what you stated in your first post, or is it just because he hasn't done anything since to make you townread him?

A few of the other posts he made were sort of waffly but someone said that already.

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Catching up tomorrow night or Saturday, whichever.
Nothing really valuable has happened and people really need to stop posting garbage but it bears repeating.

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Proactive -acting in anticipation of future problems, needs, or changes.

Just in regards to asking where I was. That one action was proactive. That doesn't mean he gets a pass for the rest of the game from me, just why I'm not scumreading him currently.

Can you elaborate on this a bit more? I don't really understand how this warrants a townread.

Deflecting to lurkers is not proactive.

How exactly is that deflecting?

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Pistachio and AJ are probably scum, I agree. I'm definitely more confident in my stachio read though. My entire wagon (unsure about mario but he is leaning scum because of his only focusing on me and then him telling me to stop talking about stachio and getting town read) is really scummy.

Forgive me if I overlooked, but why AJ?
I could argue that some of his posts are bad but it's based on gut and not really anything concrete.

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Okay I guess.
I wouldn't mind if he was checked or something, just to assuage my paranoia.

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Why are people jumping off of Heat? He's done nothing to deserve it.
It's time we ran him up and got a claim. Quit messing around with these vanity wagons and let's get this done.

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I hate just about every single person in this game right now.

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I'm sorry for being inactive, I shouldn't have joined this game :/
@Frogger: If you have a replacement ready, I don't mind being replaced.

Most of the active players seem to agree that we shouldn't lynch Dwlee. I don't really understand why, but...

6) Subtly associates Pistach with Zymf.

I don't mind lynching pistachion either. So just to get this off my back, I think we should lynch him.
VOTE: Pistachi0n

lol are you fucking kidding me
The only reason this guy is voting Pistach is to ensure that people don't think he's scum.

VOTE: zymf

If you guys aren't going to sack up and push Heat to L-1 then let's go on this instead.

[Shinobi]

Generally I'm not one for associatives either, but I am

extremely

hesitant to vote Pistach with a vote like that on his wagon. That reasoning is trash and you all know it.

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Zymf's post was scummy as fuck.

Also Dwlee how are you certain the game is multiball?

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I can be swayed into voting him I guess.
I remember asking someone for a case and they basically just said "because they're voting this person."

Is there actual reasoning behind that wagon or what?

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I don't think Dwlee is scum anymore. He's so adamant, every post of his is "LYNCH PISTACHI0N LYNCH PISTACHI0N" and he even argued with Titus about the right reason to vote me when Titus was willing to vote me anyway.

I'm scum-reading Shinobi. Half of the posts are about semantics, "I guess," or statements with no elaboration.

VOTE: Shinobi

What? Where?

[Shinobi]

I'm just going to assume Espo is confirmed mafia from here on out because he is playing so badly that I refuse to believe he is town.

Pedit - make that double for the person that also just posted.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: pignash

To explain for those of you that don't understand - he's playing a low-key game that I would expect from scum given the current atmosphere. Saying that "larges are weird so I've got nothing" is pretty much the exact kind of filler I see all too often from newbie scum trying to fly under the radar.
Pistach also jumped up like 50 notches on my scumlist for whatever her last pile of dribble was.

Taking a look at Grib's AJ case now.

Pedit - then do something towny and change people's minds.

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Oh it's so fun to post and then immediately get called scum...

It's almost like it's the reason I have said little to nothing the whole game because I feel like opening my mouth means being scumread. It's discouraging really. Every third person is throwing out naked scum reads so it's not like I'm alone in this.

What, exactly, makes you think that people are just going to scumread you every single time you post?
I would argue that the opposite has happened - far too much silence on your part is suspicious and the catch-up is underwhelming.

Do you think any of the other players throwing out "naked scumreads" are suspicious or what's up with that?

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I don't think Dwlee is scum anymore. He's so adamant, every post of his is "LYNCH PISTACHI0N LYNCH PISTACHI0N" and he even argued with Titus about the right reason to vote me when Titus was willing to vote me anyway.

I'm scum-reading Shinobi. Half of the posts are about semantics, "I guess," or statements with no elaboration.

VOTE: Shinobi

What? Where?

Like in 1088 "I can be swayed, I guess"
964 statement with no elaboration
In posts like 357 and 521 he's disagreeing but not giving content/elaborating.

...So?

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As an aside I feel better about Espo, but not by a lot.
I thought his backtrack was relatively towny/showed a willingness to reevaluate that I would think is more unlikely from scum. He's off my list.

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Dwlee, why were you blindly trusting Titus when you switched votes earlier?

Answer my question from earlier plx.

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Dwlee, why were you blindly trusting Titus when you switched votes earlier?

Answer my question from earlier plx.

The "I can be swayed, I guess" shows indecisiveness and wanting to go with the crowd, disagreeing without a reason is lazy and a way to look like you're posting a lot without saying much.

So asking for reasoning is scummy?

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I don't get it.
I'm genuinely confused.

I know people have trouble reading me but what the hell is this, really?

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VOTE: pistach

I think I'm just going to vote at it until it goes away.
It might not be a spectacular idea but that's what I've got.

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VOTE: pistachi0n

I feel better about this than AJ

Any particular reason why?

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VOTE: pistachi0n

I feel better about this than AJ

Any particular reason why?

I've liked AJ's latest posts and haven't liked pistachio's. I also trust dwlee more than titus

I need more than that tbh.

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I hate my life. I am literally the worst. Why cant I just draw scum all the time like I did 9 games straight on my home site.

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

This is actually making me lean towards scum reading you again.

Because?

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Dwlee is also not getting lynched today or probably ever so it better be a good explanation of why him instead of the 50 billion people doing nothing.

Pedit - yes, essentially that.

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I've been trying to talk to pistach over the past few pages and have essentially gotten nowhere.
I'm basically just voting her out of frustration and confusion.

Start making sense, you maybe-mafia-person you.

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Aj kind of has a point.

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Mehhhhhhhhhhh.

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but pig not wanting to join either wagon is just hilariously bad.

I know - I don't like it either.

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Nero made me feel significantly better about the zymf slot, though I'd have trouble articulating exactly what it is that gives me warm fuzzies at this point in time. Regardless, it's enough for me to leave him alone for today.

I'm still inclined to lynch pig here for his total apathy wrt the two main wagons though.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: pig

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VOTE: Titus

Flash wagon ftw!!

What?

[Shinobi]

I'm really sorry, but after mocks and having very little sleep the past couple of days, I never got around to catching up on what I missed in this game. I'd like to make a big catchup post, but my next available time where I may be vaguely awake will be around three hours before the deadline, and at that point, it's honestly not worth it. Thus, I promise that I

will

start tomorrow with a big catchup page. No bullshit, no excuses.

I'm going to hold you to this.

[Shinobi]

Good, that means I won't have to remind you tomorrow.

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AJ needs to claim.

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Pignash

needs to claim.

ftfy

Pignash is scum so who cares what he claims.
AJ needs to claim because that wagon isn't going to be dismantled at this point for any other reason.

[Shinobi]

This I can get behind. My read on him has changed so...

VOTE: mario

How, exactly?

[Shinobi]

Cool, hammer away.
I'm completely disinterested in who we lynch at this point so do whatever you want.

[Shinobi]

Then lets lynch you if you dont care, shinobi

Sure bud.

[Shinobi]

That flip was wholly unsurprising but kudos for at least killing someone who isn't doing anything.
VOTE: pignash

I still think this is our most likely mafia hit. After doing absolutely nothing all day besides saying that both wagons were town, he turned around and voted MM due to his read evolving for no reason whatsoever.

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It wasn't a slot I was town reading. Did the scum chat say I was a good mislynch target today? Pretty much no one gave reasoning for Mario, it was a flash lynch.

Wouldn't it be easier for scum to lay off the wagon and hope for a no lynch? I think you're more likely to find scum not voting or staying on the previous wagons than on the Mario wagon.

Pedit: hahahahaha

So your reasoning behind voting him was because nobody else gave reasoning?

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No, are you purposely misreading me? I was townreading the other two wagons. I was not townreading him. Flip gave town more information. I stand by my vote.

Aside from the fact that these aren't actual reasons, this isn't even what you said in the first place.
You said, AND I QUOTE:

This I can get behind. My read on him has changed so...

VOTE: mario

You said your read changed - this implies a townread or, at the very least, a reason not to lynch him which was never stated or explained.
Not only did you not explain how you came to that conclusion in the first place, you ALSO said that it changed which implies that you had reason to scumread, which you've already contradicted by saying you simply "nothing'd" the slot.

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Titus why aren't you voting for pignash?

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Titus why aren't you voting for pignash?

Because I see zero reason to.

I just gave you reasons, so now you have some.

[Shinobi]

Alright, well when you feel like actually playing the game and engaging me wrt things I'm saying, let me know.

Pedit:

Why won't you vote Dave or Elyse?

I see no good reason to vote them.
See? I can do it too.

[Shinobi]

Alright, well when you feel like actually playing the game and engaging me wrt things I'm saying, let me know.

Pedit:

Why won't you vote Dave or Elyse?

I see no good reason to vote them.
See? I can do it too.

Ok, and here's the next step. Why is there no good reason to vote pignash?

Me: VCA preflip is not likely to succeed.

Why are the reasons expressed to vote Dave and Elyse bad?

...What?

[Shinobi]

Except I'm not doing that?
I pointed out the fact that he made up reasons to vote MM which has nothing to do with VCA whatsoever.

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Except I'm not doing that?
I pointed out the fact that he made up reasons to vote MM which has nothing to do with VCA whatsoever.

Made up is a circular reason unless you show those reasons to be untrue.

What are you talking about? This doesn't make any sense.

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Except I'm not doing that?
I pointed out the fact that he made up reasons to vote MM which has nothing to do with VCA whatsoever.

Made up is a circular reason unless you show those reasons to be untrue.

What are you talking about? This doesn't make any sense.

All scum, by definition, make up their scum reads. Saying reads are made up is circular.

Why is he scum?
Because his reads are made up.
Why?
Because he is scum

Circular logic.

You have to show why his reads are made up. The assertion is not enough.

I just explained it though?

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Titus just replace out if you're not going to read again.
You have no idea how much I hate being around you and signing in just to respond to you is making this game miserable.

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V/LA for a few days.

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Esp is not scum, do something else Nero.

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Catching up tomorrow.

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I lied - I'm going to catch up tomorrow.

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(I'm actually totally caught up and am completely unsurprised that Elyse is town - I just have very little to add at this point and still think that pignash is scum.)

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Will someone please explain to me why it's so hard to lynch pignash?

[Shinobi]

Is there supposed to be a specific implication behind that statement or is there another reason as to why you aren't doing so?

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No, are you purposely misreading me? I was townreading the other two wagons. I was not townreading him. Flip gave town more information. I stand by my vote.

Aside from the fact that these aren't actual reasons, this isn't even what you said in the first place.
You said, AND I QUOTE:

This I can get behind. My read on him has changed so...

VOTE: mario

You said your read changed - this implies a townread or, at the very least, a reason not to lynch him which was never stated or explained.
Not only did you not explain how you came to that conclusion in the first place, you ALSO said that it changed which implies that you had reason to scumread, which you've already contradicted by saying you simply "nothing'd" the slot.

I'll even go back and requote my case for you, in case you don't feel like looking.

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Is there supposed to be a specific implication behind that statement or is there another reason as to why you aren't doing so?

I think Dav has stronger chance of flipping scum right now than pignash. Though I wouldn't mind lynching pig either.

Implication though? You need to be loud sometimes to get stuff done.

I'm not asking about the "loud and obnoxious bit."
I'm asking about the bit were you claimed that the wagon wasn't happening simply because I was pushing it.

Is there any quantifiable reason as to why you think Dave is more plausible than pignash?

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Because?

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I don't get it. How, exactly?

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I don't get it. How, exactly?

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Let's just consolidate on pig right now and force a claim.
Preferably so we don't end up dithering around like we did almost all of yesterday.

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People have whined about pig being a counter to just about every single wagon in the game. It's a bad argument based on nothing since nobody can even point to even one shady looking person on the wagon for shoddy reasoning.

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If you have an issue with Nero's reasoning then say it.
Otherwise don't even bother because I'm not paying attention to your useless rhetoric anymore.

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If you have an issue with Nero's reasoning then say it.
Otherwise don't even bother because I'm not paying attention to your useless rhetoric anymore.

What reasoning? He just sheeped you bc not Dave.

iirc he was talking about pig even before I was back on Day 1.

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Because you're annoying.

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Yep.

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Also, remember the large-ish wagon on Mario earlier in the game?

MarioManiac4 (6):

Grib

,

Elyse

,

Frozen Angel

, Aj The Epic,

Dwlee99

,

RadiantCowbells

From my POV, that's three townfirms, one strong townread, a townlean, and an unknown.

Kinda want that unknown dead.

VOTE: Aj The Epic

fake edit: can you elaborate? Is it all the fluff, or something else?

I don't like this post.

[Shinobi]

Also, remember the large-ish wagon on Mario earlier in the game?

MarioManiac4 (6):

Grib

,

Elyse

,

Frozen Angel

, Aj The Epic,

Dwlee99

,

RadiantCowbells

From my POV, that's three townfirms, one strong townread, a townlean, and an unknown.

Kinda want that unknown dead.

VOTE: Aj The Epic

fake edit: can you elaborate? Is it all the fluff, or something else?

I don't like this post.

Why not?

I'm having trouble elaborating so I'll probably get on it later if I'm still inclined to follow it up.

[Shinobi]

Also, remember the large-ish wagon on Mario earlier in the game?

MarioManiac4 (6):

Grib

,

Elyse

,

Frozen Angel

, Aj The Epic,

Dwlee99

,

RadiantCowbells

From my POV, that's three townfirms, one strong townread, a townlean, and an unknown.

Kinda want that unknown dead.

VOTE: Aj The Epic

fake edit: can you elaborate? Is it all the fluff, or something else?

I don't like this post.

Why not?

Because my wagon is going to dissipate and he'll need to hop somewhere else. My townread on Shinobi is getting chipped away.

I actually laughed when I read this.
You may be mafia but you're a funny mafia.

[Shinobi]

Will probably be busy all of today.
Merry Christmas, everyone. I'll check in when/if I can.

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This game is pretty much dead.

Yep.

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Why is it so hard to lynch pignash.
Uggggghhhhhhh.

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I don't think I've ever read pistach in-depth so I might parse that ISO in a little bit to see if it warrants rope or not.

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Well, technically I did but couldn't do anything with it.
Attempt #2 is under way.

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I might vote pistach.
Maybe. Still haven't done the legwork and got home far later than I thought I would.

I'll try reassess tomorrow.

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*Try and reassess.

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For the love of all things just run someone up already.
VOTE: pistach

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Okay, Dav might actually be scum.
I find it somewhat disappointing that Titus may be right but that's a thing I guess.

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Can someone please declare intent and force a claim or something?
We're two days out.

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Okay, Dav might actually be scum.
I find it somewhat disappointing that Titus may be right but that's a thing I guess.

What makes you say that now?

He's talking about irrelevancies while his top scumread has her lynch at L-1.

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VOTE: Heat
That hammer is inexcusable. Lynch him.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: davsto

Heat is still scum but I can accept this as a lynch if we can actually consolidate on someone within this lifetime.

exactly who is believing she miscounted votes when ITS said in a post its L1 twice?!

Nobody, but this town can't consolidate on anyone so I'm just doing whatever so we can actually do something instead of watch Titus whine about good wagons.
Pedit - Heat's readslist is pathetic.

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Davsto/Espeonage/Heat/Firebringer, anyone?

Replace espo with pignash and it's fine.

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@Grib, I believe that happened in Stevens Universe Mafia.

Oh and I could go for that list. I know the evidence on Heat is damning but for some illogical reason I like Heat.

Maybe Shiro can look into it.

You're bad.

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Cool.

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VOTE: heat
Now we have no excuse not to lynch this person.

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No we are lynching nos for being nero.

Idgi?

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Yeah I know that but I don't understand why they think he's scummy.

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And has abyone done anything to make us feel better about that slot?

I've never had a problem with Nero all game.
If this is your case then color me unimpressed.

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I hate how everyone has forgotten Heat's terrible hammer.
The dude is basically confirmed mafia and nobody cares.

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I hate how everyone has forgotten Heat's terrible hammer.
The dude is basically confirmed mafia and nobody cares.

You know?

You got a point shin, You got a point

Vote:Heat

There was also that null to scum spot he had thrown Dav into which is a casual place to put your mate.

Thank you.

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Heat because of his terrible yolo hammer.
Also, check your predecessor for info on pignash.

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I'm still curious as to why you think the Nero slot is "crappy."

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I already made points y u no read.

You haven't made any points that I'm aware of.

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Why are you pointing out your slot's scumminess, nos?

shinobi told me to look through it but I couldn't find anything so I asked him what I could've found from it?

I thought that Nero's jump on pignash was good.
Apparently I'm the only one.

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So he's scum for fighting with a townie that he has a history of arguing with?

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So he's scum for fighting with a townie that he has a history of arguing with?

He tried to blame it on her though.

It doesn't matter - by this logic Nero has never rolled town in any game he's ever played.

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I made a rather large leap there but you get my point.

The key thing is this - the only way your case holds water is with meta backing it. You need to go out and prove the following:
Nero only fights with Titus as mafia.
Nero only blames Titus for fighting with him as mafia.
Nero can't have made any of those statements as town.

Can you go out and actually do these things?

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So trying to pusj a mjslyncj through by lying about what happened isnt scummy?

I think the issue you're raising wrt Nero/Titus fighting is disproportionate wrt how valuable that information actually is.

Why are you pointing out your slot's scumminess, nos?

shinobi told me to look through it but I couldn't find anything so I asked him what I could've found from it?

I thought that Nero's jump on pignash was good.
Apparently I'm the only one.

I just don't know why he did it, so I can't be sure if he was reaction testing or actually thought she was scum

Nero's major contributions, outside of fighting with Titus, were centered around pushing pignash - I can assure you that they weren't reaction tests.

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I asked this before and never got an answer. Did Nero ever push Titus as scum for arguing with him?

I hate Nosferatu's entrance though and would lynch the slot based on that alone.

I don't think so but other people seem to think it. Maybe I'm wrong but I still don't think it matters.
I think we really should just stay the course and kill Heat today.

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I'm impressed at how efficiently Drixx killed this game by asking people to do stuff.

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gg all