NY 188: Delicious Mafia II (Post-game chatter)

[Salamence20]

VOTE: ika

[Salamence20]

VOTE: ika

Takes one to know one.

Ohi wake

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Speaking of Policy.

I kinda wanna speedlynch Boon. But other than that I wouldnt policy ika

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RVS is RVS.

Its too early to say ika is town, but I feel good about you.

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now im paranoid of sala

I like vanilla ice cream

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Nanite has requested replacement, something about Boon being absolutely unbearable

Lol what a dick

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So I wanna know exactly why Sala's voting ika but Shinobi's townreading him.

Hi wake!!!

Im voting ika because RVS, and the headache he left me in the Mafia dating show.

Ill look over things when I get a chance

[Salamence20]

VOTE: RedFF

Speedlynching in a Large Normal is effective and optimal for town

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So you guys are just going to speedlynch and then look at wagon instead of just dropping it? Seems legit, no problems here.

You prefer 50+ pages of bullshit?

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More Redff votes for town win please

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Why isnt this thread locked yet?

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3 more Red votes til Ika and Boon get shit done.

Lets go

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I want tacos

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Boon just claimed scum with red

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Salamence is really pushing for a random lynch, and not giving any solid reason for the lynch other than "it helps town".

Look at every NY game as of late.

They are slow, boring, and nothing gets done until deadline or 50+ pages.

Flips are important now, we get our PRs into actions, scum cant fish and have to hipfire, we can see if we are playing multiball, sk multiball, or Skmafia.

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Boon just claimed scum with red

In that case, I should hard bus him. Follow my meta more.

Or act like I thought this was Diamond Shreddies...? you decide!

Fuck off, put your money where your mouth is. You wanna quicklynch like ika, then vote Red.

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I think he might be scum.

Please speedlynch me then.

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9 pages in ffs.

We need to go

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Sala, why are you so intent on getting a quick lynch? It feels like you can't wait for night to start so you can kill someone.

You wanna screw around for 2-3 weeks and 60+ pages.

Im going to say it again. LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS NY GAMES AND HOW SLOW THEY RUN D1 WITH NO FLIPS.

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Anna/Red/Boon

So far so good, and look in 9 pages I got atleast one target.

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@Sala why did you expect this game to be any different? A little hard to buy when you seemed to know what you were getting into.

I plan on changing it

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Ika, its L-1.

Do your thing

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12 pages in.

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No, there's no excuse for putting a shitwagon to L-1 12 pages in, when both Boon and ika are playing.

Anna/Red/TSO/

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Anyone that wants to bog down the thread and have 100+ pages are scum

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Im willing to sheep ika if it gets done in 2-3 pages

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VOTE: Salamence

I see no town benefit for a speed lynch. I do see a benefit for scum. A short day means fewer clues behind. (And I'm tired of his neverending posts with no content and urging us to speed lynch.)

Ok.

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ok, I'm back from V/LA, so I should provide actual information.

I do want a quicklynch, not because I am scum or I am trying to troll town as town, but I do believe that creating tons of pages of speculation of why he/she is scum is terrible when we can get more information by going to night. By such we can learn:

If this is multiball with or without SK.
Scum won't have much information to PR Hunt, meaning the better chance for a Crosskill (If multiball) or just a random kill.
Investigative roles can get an investigation in without danger of getting Roleblocked or Killed.
The day 1 recap won't be as boggy when we get flips, so we don't have to skim through 50+ Pages of bullshit for a town lynch.
Day 1 won't be flooded with Ika's nonsense (Lynch wake lynch wake lynchwake) and Boon's trolling. They are most likely to play the game with some flips to work with.

I'll look back and provide my thoughts, but I do believe a quicklynch is optimal.

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Ika I need to know something though, do you have some issue with wake outside of him in this game?

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31 pages guys? Really?

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31 pages guys? Really?

Have you ever played in a Large Normal before?

How many town wins are there in a Large normal?

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We did when we went 12-17 pages with the Red wagon.

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To b completly honest, Im not reading this game til we get flips.

So if you wanna fuck around and wagon everyone before picking someone (Red, nos, gray, wake), go fucking ahead

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VOTE: Grey

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Like, why even join a Large Normal if all you are going to do is complain about how long it is and say you are only going to post when we can get a speed lynch and otherwise you are not even going to read the game? Why put post after post in this game saying that shit?

Go join a micro game and replace out so someone who isn't going to complain and play anti-town can replace in.

So you personally think that 30 pages of information isnt enough to work with and want to run more pages of "information" instead of flipping something?

I mean, fucking lynch me if it means you can anaylize the flips tomorrow and get scum.

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35 pages weeeeee

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Im glad we are going to spend another 5 pages wondering about my alignment and if Im a good lynch.

[Salamence20]

VOTE: Silverwolf

Thats a scumclaim.

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My vote is purely advocating a PL on Salamence20.

Just an FYI.

THIS COMING FROM THE PERSON WHO WAS BITCHING THAT LYNCHING ME IS NOT GOOD.

He is scum. Gg

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Like, why even join a Large Normal if all you are going to do is complain about how long it is and say you are only going to post when we can get a speed lynch and otherwise you are not even going to read the game? Why put post after post in this game saying that shit?

Go join a micro game and replace out so someone who isn't going to complain and play anti-town can replace in.

So you personally think that 30 pages of information isnt enough to work with and want to run more pages of "information" instead of flipping something?

I mean, fucking lynch me if it means you can anaylize the flips tomorrow and get scum.

Nope, it isn't the number of pages. It's what people say. I don't have shit for a read on Kop cuz he's a lurksack that's done nothing. I don't have much of a read on Frogger because he's still catching up. I've asked mahonster to post more. Gray says he's going to post more. I have no read on Boon but I know enough not to expect one one D1. We have 21 people in this game and I'd like to not end D1 until they've all gotten to speak.

Yeah, we can lynch you and what will that tell us? Who was pushing you? Not if you are asking to be lynched. Who voted you and why? Not if you are asking to be lynched. It tells us nothing.

Anyway, I'm not getting bogged down in theory talk.

My vote is purely advocating a PL on Salamence20.

Just an FYI.

My vote is purely advocating a PL on Salamence20.

Just an FYI.

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Fuck off silver and die.

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Good. Should have lynched red 20 pages ago and town would have more information than it has now, dumbfuck

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Then youre fucking stupid too

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You spend 30+ pages and want to result to "policy"?

Ok. 10/10, youre definatley helping town.

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I tried to help town. I provided reasons for doing it

Then you guys want to spam the fucking thread.

But whatever, can you prematurely claim scum again?

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GrayFoxxxx, you say you are scum hunting. So do you have a reads list you can give with reasons on why you are reading the player that way? I ask because when I read your ISO I don't see a lot of what I think is scum hunting.

p-edit: Salamence, that last line in 878 was uncalled for.

Cool.

You guys wagoned 3-4 people and havent gotten close to a lynch not to mention claims.

For fuck sake

[Salamence20]

Actually Lapsa, I don't care anymore. I have lost all interest in this game.

The following neighorhoods are in the game:

• Northeast Common-Room
• Southwest Corridors
• Orchard Hall
• The Penthouse (Off Limits)

I have the ability to visit one of these each night except The Penthouse. I can get access to the PT and ask questions through the mod if I want to.

The official role is called Town Neighborhood Inspector. I believe this role was put in the game because the neighborhoods are going to be key to finding scum. If they were all town, I don't think the mod would bother with this.

I'm guessing The Penthouse is a neighborizer hood possibly but I'm not sure why it can't be visited.

I'm probably not going to post much more in this game for the rest of D1 unless someone has a specific question for me or to move my vote to help us avoid a NL situation.

Unfortunately, this game has not been fun for me in any way and I'm done with it for now. I may get interested again, but it depends on how the players decide to play. If it is just going to be anti-town crap, trolling, insults, complaints, etc. then I'll be gone. Frankly, I have better things to do with my time.

The penthouse is obviously the mafia PT, where you cant get in because broken.

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Also, please please please dont turn this into NEIGHBORHOODZ HUNTING.

It never works

[Salamence20]

Cool.

I feel like you crossed the line trying to enforce policy on Page 30

[Salamence20]

VOTE: wake

Seem pretty defensive of the mafia PT, arent you?

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Well, I just can't believe any mod would give me the name of the ScumPT and say I can't visit.

Do you guys have any idea how close to game breaking that would be?

They can and would.

[Salamence20]

Well, I just can't believe any mod would give me the name of the ScumPT and say I can't visit.

Do you guys have any idea how close to game breaking that would be?

How does the title of the Mafia PT make it broken?

Its not like anyone is claiming Penthouse townie

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Silver for some reason thinks his role is OP.

Someone please tell him hes not. Just because he knows the NAME of the PTs doesnt mean he knows what they are or their meaning to the gamestate.

However, outting that made Wake defensive over the locked hood, which makes it seem like he may be mafia in the locked thread

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This PR isnt something mafia care about today.

Someone ask areo the definition of Neighborhoods

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Ill get back to this in detail, but if this turns into a neighborhood witch hunt, im done.

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SW is probably town, honestly, the role has high town utility.

Noooooooooooooooo

/sarcasm

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I have never been a fan of Neighbourhoods and believe there is zero town utility in keeping them hidden.

Boonskiies mini fucked town over because of hoods

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VOTE: wake

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VOTE: wake

VOTE: Wake

VOTE: wake

All of you, explain these please.

We are voting obvscum.

[Salamence20]

You seem to be very wearily of his neighbor god claim, which makes me think you are hiding something

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I have never seen anyone so defensive over a vote before

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Tso is ignoring me, and needs a second look after wake flips scum

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So you think outting neighbors is pro-town even though the game we were just in proves otherwise?

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So is anyone going to talk about the ratio of how many wagons we have created today vs the number of claims?

RedFF
Nos
Greyfoxxx
Wake
Ozgin
Anna

Thats alot of wagon switching, which means town is shit (likely), scum keep fucking around (unlikely), or scum are lurking while everyone fucks around (probably)

[Salamence20]

So is anyone going to talk about the ratio of how many wagons we have created today vs the number of claims?

RedFF
Nos
Greyfoxxx
Wake
Ozgin
Anna

Thats alot of wagon switching, which means town is shit (likely), scum keep fucking around (unlikely), or scum are lurking while everyone fucks around (probably)

Then who's mafia?

The people who keep moving are probably town. The ones who either suggest it and didnt follow are mafia.

Thats without doing VCA, which I cant do without flips.

The problem is, we didnt get anyone to claim besides the wolf, which shouldnt have happened. Atleast 1-2 of those guys should have been claimed imo.

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How do you know TSO isn't on my suspect list?

Hint: He is.

Info. wise your lynch would be the best IMO. I am asking for feedback on this.

Ok what will we learn when I flip town? And would it be worth a mislynch?

What we will learn:
How many mafia teams there are and/or SK
Slight VCA ability
We can judge interactions with the dead and living with flips.

THAT is what we can do with a town flip.

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Lol we outted the JOAt.

And no, Im not reading. I already said that.

Im trying to provide commentary on the fact this day hs seen too many wagon swaps

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The people who keep moving are probably town. The ones who either suggest it and didnt follow are mafia.

I move my vote around as either alignment. Wagon analysis post flips will help and VCA later in the game after we've had a few flips will help as well regarding how people are voting.

I tend to think scum is lurking hardcore at this point and those people need to be looked at. We can also look at those avoiding wagons like you and Shinobi have suggested. I don't have time to look at all the voting right now.

Id rather wait and see flips before looking at the wagons, but yeah I agree with you that lurkers are probably scum.

[Salamence20]

I believe Q is always scum because Gamblers Fallacy.

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Kop and Ika are lurkers

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VOTE: Grey

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Mod: Replace me