Lol. I need to head back to our homesite now that v6 is starting up.
Also I don't have v5 or v6 access for some reason...
In post 41, The Bulge wrote:Jesus Christ slow the fuck down.
If RC reaches any further he's gonna pull a muscle, but this exchange looks like Town vs Town. Both of you pull your heads out of your asses and play the game. You didn't "catch scum" on page 1.
VOTE: Grimmjow
In post 89, Lostaway wrote:Well, that's an interesting start to the game.
I don't know what to make of the Jake/RC spat at this point, but am happy to see it play out. It's surely better than RVS, simply for the reactions it's garnering. I'm liking how MattP is tackling it so far.
My early observations:
Oversoul, why are you voting Jake when RC implicated you, Pisskop, and Elyse? You agreed that The Bulge calling out the spat as a townie spat is a scummy move, but you're you're more convinced of Jake at this point?
Elyse's first contribution is to sheep Oversoul. Not liking this.
Flubber, why policy lynch RC over Jake? Both have been pretty over-the-top. What distinguishes them to you?
No word from Broseidon or Grimm, even though they received early RVS votes.
In post 110, MattP wrote:My ego really appreciates a lot of people coming in, saying "yea matt yea" and then skirting by without providing any actual effort.
In post 114, RadiantCowbells wrote:It's more the fact that everyone is using it as a convenient diversion to avoid addressing me and Jake.
In post 127, Oversoul wrote:Opinions on Pisskop? He has 3 posts and I already dislike his play.
In post 160, Oversoul wrote:In post 157, BROseidon wrote:In post 127, Oversoul wrote:Opinions on Pisskop? He has 3 posts and I already dislike his play.
I kind of think he's useless town who'll get mislynched for reasons that I find obvious but that nobody else will see coming
What do you mean obvious?
In post 159, BROseidon wrote:I wish I were the vig :/
Do you know for a fact a Vig exists?
In post 170, Oversoul wrote:In post 163, BROseidon wrote:1) there are certain things that resonate with me that other players tend to miss for whatever reason. The reason I'm getting town vibes from pisskop is one of those.
What are is the "one thing" that is resonating with you?
In post 194, Jake from State Farm wrote:In post 184, Jake from State Farm wrote:long as I am alive nobody will listen to me (nobody ever does)
see?
In post 234, Jake from State Farm wrote:Doesn't even matter, what bauss did in that game isn't what RC is doing this game.
In post 252, MattP wrote:It would be so cute if you were both scum doing this to disengage town
In post 292, Lostaway wrote:So here's why I'm equivocating on the whole Jake/RC feud -- aside from the fact that at this point it all comes across as spam to me, being something I really don't want to wrap my head around at all. Seriously, it's been deeply unpleasant from both parties. But it has to be addressed.
Going back to the beginning, and looking specifically how it unfolded:
In post 7, Jake from State Farm wrote:vote: evil pacman
Cause evil = scum ldo
Ugh, now I need a shower
In post 9, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Jake from State Farm
Apologetic about two things already on the first page.
It actually started innocuously enough -- a couple of RVS votes with spurious reasons given. And, I mean, these reasons are both spurious. Voting for someone on the basic of their name, and voting because someone is "apologetic" during the RVS stage.
In post 10, Jake from State Farm wrote:Apologetic? Where did I apologize for anything?
And this is quite interesting, because it's so defensive! I, for one, found the statements of "Ugh, I need a shower" and "Oh shit forgot to say" to be clearly apologetic. Not in a scummy way -- Jake apologizes for his spurious logic of voting Evilpacman on the basis of his name, and apparently forgetting his "Sup" tagline. The apologies were truly innocuous. I'm not so sure, however, about the defensiveness.
Neither was RC, it seems:
In post 11, RadiantCowbells wrote:Cause evil = scum ldo
Unnecessarily giving reasons for an RVS vote.
Oh shit forgot to say
Sup
Why bring up that you forgot to say it already?
Ugh, now I need a shower
Essentially apologizing for not having showered. Showcases feelings of inadequacy.
Apology wasn't the right word though.
I don't mind RC going on the attack for Jake being defensive, though the language here isn't exactly clear in explaining how Jake was actually being apologetic. It's that lack of precision that Jake latches onto:
In post 12, Jake from State Farm wrote:1. Rvs vote usually comes with some random reason so you fail here
2. I brought it up cause sup is my calling card and I realized I forgot.
3. I didn't apologize for not having taken a shower, it was a reference to feeling dirty and now I need one.
You fail
vote: RC
Serious vote
RC doubles down in 14 with some frankly dubious psychological "logic", and then it all quickly spirals out of control, hinging largely on issues of "meta." Frankly, I don't care about all the "meta" stuff that they both brought up and ground into the dirt. I'm not going to go digging into oodles of past games to verify, especially when game play can and does change over and over again. So that line of argumentation isn't going to pass muster with me. It just makes my eyes glaze over.
So I don't have a clear read on either of them. I lean against Jake for the initial defensiveness. I lean against RC for the quick escalation and what seems like seriously-taken dubious logic. The ferocity which RC and Jake end up employing reminds me of my Jack Russell terrier when she's pounced on a new squeaky duck toy, and won't let go -- it's so over-the-top it passes straight through comical and into the territory of the deeply uncomfortable. So I can see how either one could be town, and with egos unchecked are going to play it out to the bitter end.
At this point, if anything is going to sway me one way or the other, it's the personal attacking language of RC, which is admittedly more of a policy-lynch reaction on my part. But I play the game to have fun, and this so far has not been very much fun.
In post 315, Grimmjow wrote:ALSO HAI KINETIC, HAI BRO
In post 320, Oversoul wrote:Do you think Pisskop is scumhunting?
In post 320, Oversoul wrote:Multiball... in a 14 player game?
In post 348, RadiantCowbells wrote:I really don't like how a bunch of people said that me and Jake were both scum, or that it was decidedly not TvT, and all of them ended up voting me or proclaiming me as their main scumread of the two.
In post 355, Oversoul wrote:RC I think I'm really feeling you on the Jake-scum. The way he refuses to see *any* towniness/intentions in pisskop is mindblowing. He has to be refusing to see the things I am seeing (and others are also apparently seeing) so that he can keep pisskop as a mislynch.
In post 383, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alright just lynch me D1.
VOTE: RadiantCowbells
Jake, Flubber, EPM, Lostaway, Grimm. I guarantee that all or nearly all of the scum are in that pile.
In post 397, Bicephalous Bob wrote:The Bulge (3): MattP, Oversoul, BROseidon
In post 411, Oversoul wrote:I really don't understand the RC self-vote. It makes little sense to me.
In post 430, VysePresident wrote:In post 148, BROseidon wrote:
Lol. I need to head back to our homesite now that v6 is starting up.
Also I don't have v5 or v6 access for some reason...
That'd be cool! I'd like to play you again sometime, back home.
Incidentally, does Penguin still play here at all?
In post 474, Oversoul wrote:Or look at Broseidon and say he is a strong player even though I don't think I have actually ever played with him.
In post 544, Oversoul wrote:Bro, did you read the GS role pm on the first page? I had no idea it existed until tonight
In post 642, MattP wrote:Oh yay ilu bro
In post 961, MattP wrote:Ugh
In post 1059, Flubbernugget wrote:In post 1054, BROseidon wrote:I still don't understand why Flubber isn't happening when he's obviously scum but w/e I give up.
VOTE: Lost
Expressing more than a half-assed accusation of a scum slip from me might get you more mileage
In post 1322, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think Elyse is town though. Elyse is not a known busser and she was way too casual about the Lostaway push.
In post 1385, RadiantCowbells wrote:Town needs to not get caught on VIs or anti-town players like OS, Bulge, Flubber and start making real things happen.