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What has made you go from a solid town read on Elusive to a possible lynch candidate?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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also PB's track on Pointy was fucking awful.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3006, elusive wrote:Also, you are the reason its hard for town to even know who to follow
lol no. Like if you wanna bus RIP then fine but you are NOT going to make it to lylo.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3052, Rubicon wrote:I also don't think she would have made this post if she knew KC was mafia.
I don't really feel like she couldn't post that if KC was scum. Can you explain why you think she'd be unable to say that as scum. I do agree with you that "elusive is the kind of mafia player who's best read by her reaction to pressure" but in that mafiacraft game she wasn't name calling and ad homing. Her votes also suck.
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We are doing Elusive today, Vamp.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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getting tracked doesn't confirm you.
I'm kinda flip flopping back and forth on Rubi. Sometimes I think he's scum and sometimes I think just town that's wrong as shit.
I think you are pretty likely to be scum. I don't think its some impossibility that you hedge on KC and soft defend her. I think your early vote on yourself wasATE. I think your calling RIP the best lynch today but switching to not vote with me and vote NOT A SCUM READ Vamp is all kinds of crazy scummy shit. In fact...your entire voting history is p bad.
What did you learn from KC's flip?
Your gonna flip scum and no amount of ad homing and name calling is going to change that.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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You're ratherOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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AND I feel like you are barely doing any hunting. You've been asking others to provide you with reads lists, why haven't you done your own?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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She's just scum. Like all the new players ad hom, belittle etc. to try and get votes off them.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3077, Errantparabola wrote:I do not see scum in hysterical vitriol
KC did it, why can't Elusive do this?
In post 3078, elusive wrote:I've thought vampirate was scummy and opportunistic since day one
In post 3051, elusive wrote:Vampirate is just an incompetent leech
seems kinda odd to say about your scumread.
In post 3078, elusive wrote:he's wrong about me so he's wrong about someone else.
that, like, doesn't even make sense.
I'm sheeping rubicon because I trust him
unless you guys are really masons and you've decided to play super scummy then I still don't understand why you'd trust him, hell, even if he was town (and you knew he was town) I don't know why you'd trust his reads over your own. And you aren't even sheeping him.
RE: mafiacraft. In THISgameshe's name calling and belittling anyone that targets her (me, vamp) In mafiacraft the closest that she got was calling ABR "cult of virus" or something like that. Her tone was totes different.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3089, elusive wrote:viewtopic.php?p=6716106&user_select[]=25381#p6716106
I also just read this and don't see the name calling and ad hom that you are doing here. You called players that were voting for you "shit town" but I didn't see any personal attacks. Admittedly, I did skim 'cause tl;dr so if I missed these personal attacks can you tell me what they are?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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piss, why are you doing nothing this game?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3111, RIP wrote:If that wasn't clear so I'll be capping anyone pushing his wagon or mine.
So why aren't you voting there?
In post 3115, elusive wrote:RIP is scum. I'm sure of it.
What made you change from "Nero is wrong about me so he's also wrong on RIP."?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Elusive, why are you not sheeping Rubi?
Why are you not giving a reads list?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3126, elusive wrote:Nero, ffs why do you feel the need to even talk to me? Anything I say you'll find something wrong with so why bother? Like wtf?
Mostly to see if I am wrong or right, though I still think your play is off andNOTthe carefree scumhunting townie that was in mafiacraft or drawn on arrival. I am also hoping that others start to see what I see.
In post 3126, elusive wrote:Hey find a way to spin this: I looked at what KC said about RIP and how she soft defended him and said to leave him alone because he was hyper and ESL. THat plus her House interactions makes it likely that RIP is scum. His recent posts with jumping on the convenient train aren't great either.
How is that any different then your play? Also I am NOT townreading RIP.
In post 3128, elusive wrote:I'm not faking reads and some of the playerbase is lurking so don't feel the need.
We have 120+ pages, I think there's is plenty of content. This is the same problem that I've had with you for awhile now, you don't seem to be making and very hard commitments and keeping your options open.
I mean yea, if you are scum its not like I'm going to convince you that you are scum but don't expect my read on you to change anytime soon.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3167, Grib wrote:Also since I guess Rubicon knows Things I guess that makes him town.
scum also know things. By that logic scum are town.
Sure, if Rubi is some type of pr that has some type of inno on Elusive then fine, I'm wrong but I don't see how in the world that's town play. I also would not be surprised if RIP and Elusive are the last two scum and are bussing the shit out of each other. But then again, I also really dislike Peace....
basically, I think there HAS to be scum in Peace, RIP, Elusive 'cause I find it very hard to believe that all town voted Pointy yesterday.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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TBF, RIP is soft claiming pr, if he has innos on Vamp and Errant I don't really see whats wrong with him "lock clearing" them. Yes, I think he's scummy and likely to be scum and we aren't going to let him float by on a soft claim but your reasoning kinda suxs.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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but I'm also worried about Piss ignoring the fuck out of this game but OMG, there's so much scummy crap players.
piss is ignoring this game and has done nothing.
elusive is prob whine scum.
errant has been lurking horribly since d2 though I have a KINDA light town read since it think it makes sense to sheep not scum for KC's last ditch CW.
and then there's still RIP and Peace. And Rubi was lurking badly in the beginning and not playing like town him and he's defending scummy as fuck Elusive.
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Are all town. So we can just lynch snyone else and win this game.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3182, elusive wrote:I'm not going to believe him because he "lock cleared" far more names and then suddenly two
According to Grib, he's cleared Vamp and Errant. That's exactly two. Who else did he clear?
EVERYONEis going to have a clear on themselves.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Also the fact that you think RIP is scum but find it odd that I think I think he's scum is *head explodes*Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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vote:pissOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Your play is justthathorrible. Both in Drawn on and mafiacraft you were more freely flowing and doing your own thing. Here, you seem much more rigid. I think you are either scum or a pr.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I'm thinking about a massclaim, discuss.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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1/3rd?
lets say there is 4 scum meaning town is going to be 14. The majority of that will be vts so atleast 8 but 6 seems like it would be pretty high, so maybe a 9/5 split?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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unvoteOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3212, Vampirate wrote:So what's the deal with the pisskop wagon?
piss is postingEVERYWHEREbut here, so I wanted to apply some pressure b/c if town he needs to contribute and I could see him being lurky scum. But then him shooting l-1 so fat does make me a little worried. He either starts posting or he should be force replaced, if not given rope.
RIP is p hard to understand at times and Elusive is still pretty scummy. I feel like I'm in a game of "pick the two dullest turds out of a pile of shit"Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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mod:please prod pissOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3231, pisskop wrote:To be honest I cross replaced into this game so I'm kinda meh on it. I'll catch up and share my thoughts.
We could just lynch or or you can just replace out and I'll advertise the game and get an active player.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Your play has been shit, Elusive. If I really felt like it I could do a PBP and show it but frankly? You aren't worth it. (and I'm lazy) You are now calling RIP scum, yet also claiming my play is bad. Who have I been tunneling since the end of d1?
HOUSE
who replaced House?
RIP
You either think RIP is scum or you think my play is bad. Youcannotthink both. There's also no way for me to KNOW who is scum, sure I think that you and RIP are the scummiest two players in the game but there's all this other crap that calls themselves town and IF you were town you should understand that.
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I think you and Rubi need to full claim. (please fakeclaim masons so I can lynch you both) Though I wouldn't be that suprised if you and RIP were bussin' each other into oblivion and Rubi is just wrong as shit as normal.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3250, Rubicon wrote:So what's your plan for when elusive flips town? (When, not if.)
We'll have three lynches left to catch the remaining scum. Who do you choose?
Her play is really bad. Even if you have some sort of inno on her I feel like you are auto tuning yourself instead of using your brain. I am KINDA willing to listen if she's town and is playing scummy to not get shot, its a horrible but valid strategy, but her play doesn't match her town meta and her play is full of cog dis.
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I know you said three but I'm a tad undecided.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3266, pisskop wrote:Again why? Are we in trouble?
Well, Grib and Peace are claimed PRs, RIP was softing a pr (he's claimed now thought. Both of Elusive ans Rubi are soft claiming prs. Why should we not massclaim?
In post 3266, pisskop wrote:Like is this wagon really because I'm not as active as I could be? That's bad, especially since it exploded.
I agree with you that the fact the wagon exploded makes it bad but the premise of the wagon wasn't. Like you are ignoring this game while posting it up elsewhere and then came in and said "well I'm a cross replace, i don't care about this game" This is exactly what scum Ika did in my last NY game. Not sure why you think its cray cray that I (and others) would suspect your slot for doing nothing and posting it up elsewhere.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3256, Rubicon wrote:
In post 3180, Nero Cain wrote:though I have a KINDA light town read since it think it makes sense to sheep not scum for KC's last ditch CW.
What is this referring to?
Errant.
I seriously have a hard time finding all of Elusive, Peace and RIP to be town.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3294, Rubicon wrote:Also for the love of god can you stop saying this stuff about me having an inno or being masons
Ah, so you just have a town read on her then? ok, that makes me feel better. You are wrong as shit bro.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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or you are scum and know she is town...or you guys are scum together. Yea, still want to lynch her.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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so vote herOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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IF I voted with you today would you be willing to vote Elusive with me tomorrow?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3320, Grib wrote:You mean everyone hasn't figured out my role and exact Night actions yet?
no. Town don't really look for crumbs...Rubi, I'm looking at you.
Piss is playing very differently but I'm not sure which one scum is, if he's not going to even try I'd be ok with his lynch but the only thing that makes me worry is that his wagon went SOOOOOOOO fast and I think fast wagons usally denote town.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I guess, idk...I prob just have such a sour tase b/c he's defending the shit out of Elusive.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Nero Cain-town
Grib-town
davesaz-town
PointYBagelS-prob town due to kc CW
RIP-tentatively buying his claim
Errantparabola-if RIP is town he has no need to lie so prob town.
Vampirate-gut town
Taly-gut town
Rubicon-maybe town
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last 2 scum here?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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but then again, Peace is a claimed PR so I'm kinda not wanting to kill that but OMG, his track was SOOOOOOOOOO horrible. And that fast wagon on Piss really bothers me, Elusive is still where I want to go today. I may or may not want to kill Rubicon if she flips scum.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Elusive/piss team?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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that is a thing too, like I was in a game and all the town powers were X-shot and the guy that claimed he was full was scum.
but then we ONLY have 5/6 town prs
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tracker
joat
cop
and I had thought that Rubi was softclaiming an inno on Elusive. I thought his post that said it was a fact that Elusive was town was a soft claim.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3308, Rubicon wrote:I'd also point out that while RM voted KC on day two, on day one his posts were a pretty classic case of distancing while voting other people.
In post 1370, RationalMadman wrote:Klingon yes, he's very scummy to me but I don't know if he plays 'middle' even as town or if this is specifically his scumplay. I'd be willing to lynch him though, but would much prefer a Xen/Graf lynch as despite Xen being an okayish player post-replacement, Graf did not towntell at all. He made consistently no sense and contradicted himself over and over.
Klingoncelt is scummy, but maybe it's just her playstyle. He'd much prefer to lynch one of those two townies instead.
In post 1403, RationalMadman wrote:The issue for me with the Klingon BW is that the people hopping on it are all my scumreads or null reads.
It's not that I particularly townread klingon, it's that the people attacking him are all outside of my town circle.
Here he's coming up with reasons why KC might not be scum after all.
In post 1752, RationalMadman wrote:VOTE: bellaphant
I like this bandwagons for 2 reasons.
1) peace and rubicon are voting them and both seem towny enough to me.
2) If klingoncelt was looking for an easy bw to get attention off him, i bet he'd bus so when he dies they look towny.
I really hate the way he justifies his bellaphant vote by trying to tie her to KC at a point when he hasn't even voting KC. First it's inconsistent because his previous few mentions of KC have been about all the reasons why she might not be scum after all, but now he's treating her like definite scum out of the blew (to the point that he's looking for her partners.) And yet, still finding a reason to vote someone else. Ewww.
This is also p similar to how Elusive was calling madman scum but wasn't voting him 'cause her townbloc didn't agree with her.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 1402, elusive wrote:I've seen KC mislynched as town for foot in the mouth kind of posts
In post 1831, elusive wrote:Unless someone can make a coherent case on why they think she's scum, I'm not buying what's been "sold" so far on her. There is something slightly different here but I'm sure those with the ability to infer can figure out why that may or may not be the case.
i think scum shot Boons n1 to recruit him.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Boon did that to let scum know who he was.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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There is nothing townie about her.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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that Ric had a good case on KC? Yes I liked it.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3369, Vampirate wrote:In post 3367, Nero Cain wrote:that Ric had a good case on KC? Yes I liked it.
No, i'm asking if you agree with Peace that Ricastle's primary case on KC was her supposedly knowing his role?
Thoughts?
I think it was a big part of it yes. She called his power weak and then avoided answering questions about it. Was it his primary case? no. His OC was about KC selectively scumhunting me and having a very weird reason to suspect me.
I am not sure where you are going with this.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3351, Rubicon wrote:In post 3348, Nero Cain wrote:and I had thought that Rubi was softclaiming an inno on Elusive. I thought his post that said it was a fact that Elusive was town was a soft claim.
No I claimed in my second post.
I'm pretty sure there's one more unclaimed PR though.
I know this NOW but that's what I thought your "its a fact that Elusive is town" was.
We have 3 claimed prs and 1 dead pr. I think that we'll haveAT MOST6 town prs. I think 4 prs are too few so 5 is the sweet spot so I think Peace is scummy (just like I think RIP is scummy) but I'd rather not lynch him today.
My preference is Elusive for the day.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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like lets just pretend that RIP and PB are both town prs that makes all of
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PointYBagelS and Vampirate
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but I'm also not super super high on Rubi/Taly scum so Elusive/Piss seem like the optimal lynches for the day.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Who is the other scum?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3388, davesaz wrote:But I'd have her as closest to town of those in the questionable pile
Who is the questionable pile? piss, peace, elusive, rip?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3383, elusive wrote:Why did you provide reads without reading? That seems backwards and your vote is a NoU of epic proportions.
says the person that isn't providing any reads to keep as many people lynchable as possible.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3373, Nero Cain wrote:like lets just pretend that RIP and PB are both town prs that makes all of
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I think both of RIP and Peace are p scummy but the 5 pr thing makes sense to me and the 2 shot FN+2 shot cop+JOAT with a 1 shot investigates doesn't seem like an impossibility. I am a little wary that PB is not an X shot but without further pr claims he doesn't have to hang right now. So that's where I'm at.
I'd like RIP to clarify his results.
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no, the fast wagon on him still freakes me out but I'm still ok with this lynch since he's doing nothing. I'd like to see what Pointy has to say before we go to night.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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vote:ikaOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 3397, Nero Cain wrote:In post 3373, Nero Cain wrote:like lets just pretend that RIP and PB are both town prs that makes all of
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PointYBagelS and Vampirate
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Taly
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In post 3419, elusive wrote:Oh look nothing to say about Taly and his convenient reads for town cred where he missed some important things, Nero?
If not paying attention is a scumtell for yu, does this make you conf scum?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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