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Alright, alright! I'm in. I'm gonna roll with an obligatory bandwagon vote ofOriginal Roll String: 1d21 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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...Shteven, it appears, and then reread.
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Battle Mage – 7 – Glork, BillyTwilight, Guardian, Haut Boy, HungryJoe, The Central Scrutinizer, yogurtbandit
This is the height of the BM wagon, which just has a bad feeling written all over it.
I really think there are like 2 scums in those voters, and I'll continue digging through my reread now...Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Through Page 5 and Glork seems to me to be trying way, way, way too hard. For some reason I'm willing to give yogurtbandit's on and off vote a pass - I'm still figuring out why.
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Wow, I read this sentence, and am compelled to revote before I'm done with my reread.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:@ Beanbag: I wouldn't be worried about risking untimely lynchings until the votecount is about eight.
unvote; vote: TCS
It just sounds so sneaky. In my mind, I would say something like this so I could bury my vote better as a scum.
Just one of those things.
Oh, and I hope you all don't mind the string of posts that will be coming. If you do... /shrug... sorry.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Alright, up to page 14 and Guardian joins the ranks of my scumlist. Riding the fence like he gets paid to do it (concerning BM) and it's just... so... blatant. Scum, I say.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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... and done.
The replacers feel Town. Jack's posts have been so direct I can't see him being anything other than Town. MBL is just flat out good at being tricksy, but I think he's Town, too.
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^^ someone unvoted before bbb's vote, but I quite frankly don't want to go back and look. OK, so like I said before I think this is a key wagon to scrutinize. I find it too odd and coincidental that Glork's list of scum off this wagon is completely different than mine. Glork, Guardian, and TCS - Ifeel QUITE stronglythere's scum in that group. My vote is on TCS, which is cool with me.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Is it just me, or did Glork just defend himself against an invisible accuser?Glork wrote:I should also point out that I have made D1 policy lynches on terrible players before. In Normal 51, I pushed (and got) a policy lynch on a player who insisted on making two-word posts and not contributing. Though he turned out to be pro-town, we won the game eventually anyway. Even if you are pro-town, Albert, I will havezeroqualms about lynching you. The way I see it, regardless of your alignment, your presence is a detriment to the town. If you're scum, all the better. If not, I'll get over it rather quickly and move on with the game.
...that's not to say that Shteven is not off the hot seat, though. I'm still waiting to hear from him.
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It has been a while since I've played with this guy - has he been on a bad waffling streak of late?Glork wrote:See above, TCS. I am frustrated with the fact thatMULTIPLE playersinsist on behaving deliberately scummy. If one, *maybe* two players were fishing for reactions by doing something unorthodox, that'd be fine. But the fact that several players are doing whatever the heck they want is making it extraordinarily difficult for me to figure out which ones (if any) among them are scum.
I see scummy play, I go after scummy play. I see deliberately scummy play, I go after it harder. I see deliberately scummy play from like four different people, I get angry.
So there you have it. Glork's attitude towards this game in a nutshell.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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I'm against for letting Guardian off the hook.
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edit by way of post... >.>
But in all seriousness, let's hang Guardian... or TCS... or... Glrawk.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Bleh, my sarc meter's down at the moment. Do you have a question in particular for me, or just goofing?Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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I really should have posted something in here Monday, to catch up on the weekend. Sowwy.
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Wow, there's so much crap in this thread already that later Days are going to be gruesome.
As for my position on things, not much has changed. I'll get more direct tomorrow; time for sleep now.
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:unvote, vote: YogurtBandit
I'm tired of the way he keeps jumping in to answer questions that are asked to other people. This is something that scum seems to tend to do, and I don't know of any precendence of YB doing this as town, so this evidence adds to the other things he's done that I thought were scummy. MBL can wait, YB is today's lynch.
Glork, with me!X
I really don't think you're scum... at the moment... but I'm not sure you're pointed in the right direction.
Then again, the point some mafia try to make is to cause confusion... so,FOS: MoS
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MoS, I see you wandering off to start a wagon that no one has showed much interest in, which prompted my statement.
From what I've seen of Shteven in another game as scum, I just don't get the same read this go-around. Yeah, it's been awhile, but hasn't he just recently made a return to the site?Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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You guys just can't end a Day...[/agitated]
On the brighter side, HungryJoe also seems to be scum.HungryJoe wrote:Wow. Um, Billy. That's a pretty freakin' awesome post. I think I'm sold on YB being scum here (not like it takes much convincing, the way he's been acting), but unless YB comes up as scum, I'm not sure that Guardian is scum here. He's under a lot of scrutiny, sure, but I don't think he's that unsensible, and while he's obviously something to watch, I still think TCS looks a lot worse than Guardian, really.
Anywho, I'm still quite convinced of YB at this point.
Vote : YogurtBandit
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I'll thin it down to the scummy part:
(And here you all thought I'd just repost the quote in its entirety.)I think I'm sold on YB being scum here (not like it takes much convincing, the way he's been acting)
High bandwagon wins my vote, for the near future at least. And, no, that doesn't necessarily mean high bandwagon wins my suspicion.YogurtBandit wrote:Explain that to me.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Eh, it kind ofYogurtBandit wrote:
So you're saying you'd rather vote for who everyone else is voting than who you think is suspicous? Dude, stick to your own things, There's no use in voting someone because everyone else has unless you're sure that person is scum.So you're saying if someone were to unvote and Vote Guardian, you would switch your vote too?inHimshallibe wrote:
High bandwagon wins my vote, for the near future at least. And, no, that doesn't necessarily mean high bandwagon wins my suspicion.YogurtBandit wrote:Explain that to me.issticking to my own thing. I have gotten some pretty decent first impressions on players in this game, have voiced a lot of my suspicions, and have made some disclosed notes, too. This Day 1 has gone on plenty long, there is a whole lot of content to start piecing things together when we have more information, and I'm not going to lose any sleep because I thought it ended way too quickly. When it's ready to end, the Day will end, it's just kind of natural (and in this case with a little boost behind it, i.e. my vote). If I think the leading bandwagon is detrimental, I'll avoid it, but those cases will be few and far between on Day 1.
Eww, inHim is fine, thanks.Fos:IHSIB
^^^ That is your new acronym.
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If you figured he'd say as much, what was all that about, then? Your vote and unvote was pretty much worthless.
inHim's list'o scum
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Not in the least bit. I think you're scum in this particular game, though. The worthlessness I am attributing to scumminess, not you being bad at this game.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Wow, you really think I'm bad at this game, huh?inHimshallibe wrote:If you figured he'd say as much, what was all that about, then? Your vote and unvote was pretty much worthless.
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What does pablito have to do with anything? I'd think he was scummy too if he just did what you did in those last couple of posts.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
I think we can consider YB confirmed town... no scum would really be this pigheaded.YogurtBandit wrote:
Sounds like WIFOM, really. Makes me even more sure this is Wifom by Inhim's response.I'd confirm vote you again, but after the 8th time it just gets old.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Wow, you really think I'm bad at this game, huh?inHimshallibe wrote:If you figured he'd say as much, what was all that about, then? Your vote and unvote was pretty much worthless.
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Glork - if I didn't think the above was blatant distancing, you were slowly being let off my hook.
@InHim: Imagine for a second that I'm pablito. Would you consider my play scummy? Have you ever played a game with me? Why are you automatically considering my play scummy?
Oh, andFOS: InHimfor being light on reasons for accusing me. I wish hypocrisy were a scumtell, because if it were, I'd vote for you.
I think I'm currently in another game with you.
I'm not automatically considering your play scummy, I'm saying those last few posts of yours reeked of scumminess.
kk, so I'm light on reasons, fair enough. I'm calling those posts like I see them. Remind me of this hypocrisy, though.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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OK, so either:
the leading bandwagons are both scum, along with the people not voting them
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you all just like watching me suffer.
SRSLY, we ought to end this.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Glork is throwing a hissy fit, and I really don't agree with his take on Yosarian's comment. It's a big stretch, in my opinion, and I'm sure I would have been suspicious of Yos if he had ducked both Guardian and YB and said "I think the Shteven wagon is the best."Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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This Day is dragging on like a two-legged dog...vote: shorten deadline.
But, seriously, we have three wagons full of committed people. This is a good Day, that really ought to have just ended a while back. >.<Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Wow, this is so full of crap.Glork wrote:I tend to get skittish about crazyrapid bandwagons near deadlines. It seems to me that, more often than not, they come from overblown reasons and end up on townies. Perhaps I'm wrong this time. We'll see.
Like I said, the one good thing I *know* an Albertlynch would give us: Information.
ANY lynch gives information.
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Of course it's helpful, because we have their recorded suspicions and votes, and also who suspected/didn't suspect or voted/didn't vote them, and also the quick wagon would more than likely be ripe with suspects.Glork wrote:
I meant that the Albert lynch would give us better info than some arbitrary lynch... considering there have been three pushes against Albert today, one of which was baseless and another was a very, *very* rapid deadline-wagon, I think that Albert will likely come up as town. Of course, I won'tinHimshallibe wrote:
Wow, this is so full of crap.Glork wrote:I tend to get skittish about crazyrapid bandwagons near deadlines. It seems to me that, more often than not, they come from overblown reasons and end up on townies. Perhaps I'm wrong this time. We'll see.
Like I said, the one good thing I *know* an Albertlynch would give us: Information.
ANY lynch gives information.
Glork is scum. Would a vig please take care of this problem?knowif I'm right until he's dead. But anyway, my point is that the Albert lynch would probably be most informational. That's what I meant to imply. Your literal interpretation honestly bothers me quite a bit.Of courseany lynch gives information. But at this point, do you think learning the alignment of Yos2 or Sarcastro or Autumn will be more helpful than learning Albert's alignment? Highly unlikely.
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I realize the difference.
But Glork, what you state you meant to say (we're getting better information by lynching Albert rather than x, y, or z) and what you actually said (we're getting information by lynching Albert) are two different things. I would not have pounced on this if I didn't think you were leaving wiggle room.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Whoa, youdidunvote Albert before you made that comment. Hmm...
What I meant by wiggle room was "leaving yourself room to wiggle out of suspicion if Albert comes up Town, while you were on that lynch." Now that I see you've switched off, I really don't know what to think.
So now I go back to the drawing board and see post 1275 which surprisingly came before the "information" post. Ugh, I repeat: I don't know what to think.
But, the fact remains that semantics are indeed important. Scum slip up like that often, and the Town uses semantics to catch them. I'm still wary of Glork.
Mod, just end this Day. Guardian's not going to be lynched, and I'm going to vote where there are less of my top suspects.
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Praise be.LoudmouthLee wrote:
Denied.Albert B. Rampage wrote:Deadline extension ?Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Barnacles.YogurtBandit wrote:
Well, AE is gone.inHimshallibe wrote:I really want AE and BM to vote on the wagons.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Not reallyMastermind of Sin wrote:then, as was said earlier, we are depending on BM.depending, rather just curious to see what develops.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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MoS swung votes away from Guardian, which is worthy of note.inHimshallibe wrote:Mastermind of Sin wrote:unvote, vote: YogurtBandit
I'm tired of the way he keeps jumping in to answer questions that are asked to other people. This is something that scum seems to tend to do, and I don't know of any precendence of YB doing this as town, so this evidence adds to the other things he's done that I thought were scummy. MBL can wait, YB is today's lynch.
Glork, with me!X
I really don't think you're scum... at the moment... but I'm not sure you're pointed in the right direction.
Then again, the point some mafia try to make is to cause confusion... so,FOS: MoS
Hmm, I don't FOS much. Take note of that one, peeps. o.O
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Albert B. Rampage – 8 – Yosarian2, xyzzy, MrBuddyLee, HackerHuck, YogurtBandit, Shteven, The Central Scrutinizer, inHimShallIBe
YogurtBandit – 8 – Sarcastro, Billy Twilight,HungryJoe, Jack, Glork,Albert B. Rampage,Mastermind of Sin, Guardian
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Battle Mage early bandwagon – 8 - Glork, BillyTwilight, Guardian, AutumnEvenings,HungryJoe, The Central Scrutinizer, yogurtbandit, Sarcastro
If BM is town or SK, I expect there to be two scum in the above. If he is scum, very likely there is only one scum voting him.
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Voting for ABR – YB, TCS
Voting for YB – Glork, BT,Hungry Joe, Sarcastro, Guardian
Not voting either of the above – AE
People that I mentally clear: YB, BT, AE – this leaves TCS, Glork, Sarcastro, Guardian where there is atleastone scum, again imo. I noted the Day’s end vote counts because I think scum would separate themselves after being clumped together on an early bandwagon (remember this all hinges on the fact that I believe BM is town). Given all these assumptions, I see an isolation.
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Guardian wrote:unvote vote: inHimIshallbe
I'd say why, but cases are scummy.ebwop: lol, meant to hit preview there, but now that it's there I don't disagree with the sentiment so whatever.
Read the first few pages with Coron's two posts, and then read inHim in isolation. I don't like it.That made me lol .
You can still use the rope to lynch someone else, there will be many lynches in this game, I'm sure, don't worry.
If you're bored or whatnot, re-read inHim's posts and tell me what you think. Also Sarcastro.i lol'd irl
For he's a jolly good busser...Glork wrote:Vote: Guardian
You can die now, scum.
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Lynch all doctors.
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Also, no counterclaims.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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(emphasis mine)Glork wrote:It's hard to say whether the scums will play the WIFOM game or not as far as nightkilling Guardian goes. But consider this: If Guardian is not the SK, then the SK will have significant incentive to kill Guardian regardless of whether Guardian is scum or the Doctor.If Guardian is the SK (which I must say, I find rather unlikely -- I think he'd have taken a lower profile in this game if so), then the Mafia may in fact leave him around for a while.If he's the Doc, he could find himself the target of both kills so that Doc protection won't save him; or, if only one group targets him, the presence of a second Doc could save him.
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OK, it's a cover for a scumbuddy 'cause if your argument carries Guardian's going to live. You saidbothgroups could kill him if he were a doc, implying scum would also put the hit out on him, but the same doesn't seem to apply if Guardian were an SK. Reading it again, I actually see you angling Guardian as the SK instead of "covering" for him.
Hmmm... angling Guardian as the SK... you're right, that's not cover, it's a setup.
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But see, that's what you saynow. Throwing the numbers out now don't wipe away the footprints left behind.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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I think you just hit the nail on the head. Don't just FoS... vote, please.AutumnEvenings wrote:
Hey Glork? Stop telling the Serial Killer what to do, ok?Glork wrote:However, I find it highly likely (say, 80%) that the SK will target Guardian (again, unless Guardian is the SK -- a probability which I find to be insignificant). I'd give about a 50% chance of scum targeting Guardian. There is only a 50% chance that there is even another Doctor alive, and probably only a 60% chance that any living Doctor would protect Guardian.FoS: Glorkfor essentially saying "Hey SK, you kill the doc and the mafia'll kill someone else, ok?"Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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The amount of times something about Guardian or Glork has gotten started, and then squelched and something on Shteven has sprung up is staggering. Atleastone of the two are scum.
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Mastermind of Sin wrote:OMG I died...I had you all fooled...or at least enough of you
BillyT, there's no guarantee of any docs, and definitely not a guarantee we have 2. Once they're exposed, a Doctor just isn't really worth much, and is such an easy scum claim. Iguessit couldn't hurt to see if Guardian gets killed during the Night, but the way he reacted and claimed just looks like scum to me.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Lemme just say wehaveto start answering our glaring suspicions now so we don't screw ourselves later.So manypeople have come and gone throughso manywagons that these first two Days would be utter wastes if we don't follow through.
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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Inhim-Glork Mafia, Shteven SK?Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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The Central Scrutinizer wrote:What I'm more concerned with is all of the people who were questioning Glork and not voting him at all. Despite all the hubbub, I'm left the only one willing to lynch him.inHimshallibe wrote:OK, it's a cover for a scumbuddy 'cause if your argument carries Guardian's going to live. You saidbothgroups could kill him if he were a doc, implying scum would also put the hit out on him, but the same doesn't seem to apply if Guardian were an SK. Reading it again, I actually see you angling Guardian as the SK instead of "covering" for him.
Hmmm... angling Guardian as the SK... you're right, that's not cover, it's a setup.
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Regardless of them being buddies, or Glork setting Guardian up for the fall.Jack wrote:unvote
vote: Glork - you've made a lot of mistakes, regardless of intent
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No, I didn't say that.Glork wrote:So Glork as town doesn't make mistakes?
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Calm down. Claimed doctors are harmful to the WIFOM aspect of the game. There are no guarantees, either.The Central Scrutinizer wrote::ahem:
WHY IS THERE A WAGON ON AN UN-COUNTERED DOCTOR?
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In honor of some very worthy posts of late, I agree.
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look, you can't tell me you believe his claim!?HackerHuck wrote:
That's the first thing that has pushed shteven well into the possible scum category for me.Yosarian2 wrote:Um, Shteven, weren't you just saying that it'd be better to not lynch guardian today, because he'd likely be nightkilled? What changed your mind?Fos: Shteven
I am quite surprised that we still have people voting for Guardian. He's claimed doc without a counterclaim (not that surprising) and he's not likely to survive more than a couple of days. There has to be someone else that you find scummier than Guardian. I still like either YB or TCS myself.
The fact is, allowing scum to live another day simply because they claim a power role, is idiotic. We learn alot from either a Guardian or Glork lynch.
but preferably the former obviously.
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Well, with the believing the claim and the whole why Guardian should be killed thing. I really don't expect to have the wagon, though, so I'm aiming at Glork.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Hmmm... I'm trying to determine whether you're skewing this or not. Yeah,Jack wrote:YogurtBandit wrote:Im not liking Glorks Metagame defense of himself. Then agaion, Im just not a MG person.
It was a metagame attack. Why didn't you ask for people to vouch for inHim's claim that Glork doesn't make as many mistakes when he's town?Shteven wrote:I'm also not really big of Meta game defenses. I know I'm not about to re-read other games, and I'm sure that most other player's won't either. You get to claim a point that no one will bother to verify, and so it just stands unchallenged.FOS: Jack.
I never specifically said that because it was Glork that was making a lot of mistakes made him scum. I think the act of making mistakes - these do not include my scumlist v. player x's scumlist, my votes v. player x's votes, etc. - is scummy, regardless of person.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Touche.Jack wrote:
The specifics of your claim are not important to my post...I also don't understand what you are talking about. If making mistakes is scummy then surely Glork makes more mistakes as scum then as town by your logic?inHimshallibe wrote:
Hmmm... I'm trying to determine whether you're skewing this or not. Yeah,Jack wrote:YogurtBandit wrote:Im not liking Glorks Metagame defense of himself. Then agaion, Im just not a MG person.
It was a metagame attack. Why didn't you ask for people to vouch for inHim's claim that Glork doesn't make as many mistakes when he's town?Shteven wrote:I'm also not really big of Meta game defenses. I know I'm not about to re-read other games, and I'm sure that most other player's won't either. You get to claim a point that no one will bother to verify, and so it just stands unchallenged.FOS: Jack.
I never specifically said that because it was Glork that was making a lot of mistakes made him scum. I think the act of making mistakes - these do not include my scumlist v. player x's scumlist, my votes v. player x's votes, etc. - is scummy, regardless of person.
Meh, I can't phrase this properly. Suspicion and voting mistakes are quite different from posting, quoting, interpreting, etc. mistakes is what I wanted to emphasize. Glork lists Lights Out 2, which I haven't read, but have heard is infamous for several bad lynches Day 1. To me, having those wrong suspicions isn't scummy, but I highly suspect taking things out of context, overflooding with irrelevant information, twisting words, etc.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Argh, my words are being taken from inHimland and twisted into something I can't help. I'm going to have to shut up about this mistakes business, because all I'm doing is obscuring the Town's discussion.
It's not going to be BM to complain first.Guardian wrote:Manaspryte... I definitely want to hear more from you.
unvote: inHim vote: Manaspryte. That one post, to me, was so suspicious that... for the time being, at least, I feel my vote is best placed on you.
*waits for BM to complain about how I am backtracking by voting Manaspryte *
You rally against me like you did and just wash your hands of it for a post, so you can point your finger at someone else? Guardian is scum!
re: Shteven. Yes, I'm pseudo-defending him. Yes, this is partly because he is Glork's highest suspect at the moment. This is also partly because I remember some of his playstyle from a game I've played with him before, and he doesn't argue well when he's scum. I don't think he's scum.
And there goes Glork again, being contradicted, and this time by YB, no less. Maybe "mistakes" isn't what I need to use for this game. It's more of a "do as I say, not as I do" thing for Glork.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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It's precious that you're trying to sound concerned, Guardian. This "frustration" causes me to suspect you even more.
I'm not going to waste the time on Shteven's defense; it's really not that important to me, besides the fact I keep saying he's not scum.
I should not have auto-linked you to Glorkscum, that much is correct, because while I'm certain Glork is evil, I'm not sure whether he's scum or SK. I'll also admit I'm stuck in a pretty big rut until someone on my list is dead (Guardian, Glork, TCS)... let's just kill one and see what happens, k?Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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