NY 177: Simple Complexity (GAME OVER: Scum Wins!)

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/confirm

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I know nobody here that well. but hi tso, elsye, tn. and Reinoe

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VOTE: reinoe

no gambits for you

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this logic.

we need to lynch reinoe, he is too trolley.

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whoops. auto correct sucks. we should still lynch reinoe though.

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we know there are neighborhoods most likely. and I suspect a. both sides have role blockers/jk or we might be dealing with a hidden sk rb/factions.

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it's in the queue, which means we probably will have crossfire.

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so in the discussion forum I found a twenty one player setup with an sk...made by wake... and two scum parties

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no to reinoe

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omgusing already I see

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not enough data and it is still rvs. royal is a tad scummy.

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for omgusing.

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wtf. brb gonna read dat

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pagetop

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wow. I missed.


let's try again.... pagetop

pedit. sssssscccrrrreeeewwww you

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omgusing in this case is a bit scummy. which is why I haven't used my vote on ape yet.

@reinoe, gambits are suicidal. remember lynch all liars?

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well, if you are going to gambit don't be dumb about it. also please no all caps, bolded, enlarged troll spamming rage If your gambit fails

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Ugh guys stop wondering. I saw Wake posting and earlier version of this setup. Everyone was in a neighboorhood there and there was something.in addition. I will kepp it.for myself tho.

This is a Closed Setup. Players won't know exactly what PRs are at play, if any.

Ugh ye this and something else bring me to the idea it's mountanious. Also Wake basically wants to make only mountanious games so.

Speculating about setup like a boss.

Will knowing more about the setup help us find scum? I thought the object of this was to find (and kill) the scum.

It is always useful!

wait, I thought you hated speculation?


what is mountainous?

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thanks.

also are you serious ns?

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gameplay vanilla town confirmed

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I don't even think everyone has posted

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psst psyche you know what you gotta do.

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And you perform the dumbest gambits and you get drunken rage and self hammer

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Ugh guys stop wondering. I saw Wake posting and earlier version of this setup. Everyone was in a neighboorhood there and there was something.in addition. I will kepp it.for myself tho.

This is a Closed Setup. Players won't know exactly what PRs are at play, if any.

Ugh ye this and something else bring me to the idea it's mountanious. Also Wake basically wants to make only mountanious games so.

Speculating about setup like a boss.

Will knowing more about the setup help us find scum? I thought the object of this was to find (and kill) the scum.

It is always useful!

wait, I thought you hated speculation?


what is mountainous?

gameplay. reply to my first question.

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tree you are an alt right?

also if you are full of bs be ready for a policy lynch.

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still waiting if ns is full of bs

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then I guess I won't policy lynch you this time.

however I am strongly against liars.

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Pls don't be full of shit

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VOTE: tree

I warned you. and of course you omgussed.

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tree is spewing scum claims

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Tree, I warned you not to fake claim anything and troll the thread. you are being extremely anti town, and possibly scum..


you aren't doing much tree. other than trolling

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rvs ended when the scum hunting began. and you are scum. I'm voting you now.

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I refuse to lynch reinoe until he activates dumb drunk mode.




my vote remains on tree. until elsye responds with her defense. also tso is town

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never flash wagon. that's scummy to say.

Reinoe why do you think it is a good idea to flash wagon?

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answer my question reinoe

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I have no idea why tn and psyche joined, but whatever.

still flahswagoning is a stupid idea and never should be done.

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Ugh guys stop wondering. I saw Wake posting and earlier version of this setup. Everyone was in a neighboorhood there and there was something.in addition. I will kepp it.for myself tho.

This is a Closed Setup. Players won't know exactly what PRs are at play, if any.

Ugh ye this and something else bring me to the idea it's mountanious. Also Wake basically wants to make only mountanious games so.

Speculating about setup like a boss.

Will knowing more about the setup help us find scum? I thought the object of this was to find (and kill) the scum.

It is always useful!

wait, I thought you hated speculation?


what is mountainous?

gameplay. reply to my first question.

answer this gameplay

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VOTE: gameplay

will not retract until a proper response.

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cough cough.

stop ignoring me gameplay

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you said "stop wondering about this setup"

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pagetop

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why did you not answer this before?

why did you want to keep it to yourself for a bit?

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why would you want to keep any info from town?

I asked you like five times. I don't think you could miss that, plus the question before one of your posts was that question.

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If you have info that you shouldn't have and is bannable. Why are you in this game?

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I'm scumhunting. and you are cracking.

you should replace out if you have cheaty info.

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bannable info is very cheaty.

my gut and brain screams scum at you

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he says the info is bannable.
each of your answer is bringing up another question.

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Hi gameplay. Is it really bannable? U should ask Wake.

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Tree is being reinoe. Anyways tree is leaning scummy.to me. I would still like elsye and Josh to go at it.

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nice omgus you got there.

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i switched votes cuz u didn't answer my questions. I said you are a vanilla townie cuz you think this is mountainous. now the vote stays cuz you omgussed me.

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So your case on me is me accusing people? Lol k.

So you dislike the fact that I have an opinion on gameplay scum and me talking. I see you also hate people who don't play like you.

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I see you dont like different methods of Scumhunting. I like to accuse people if I see something.

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How is my method forced

If you think I want to seem townie well I dont care about that. My reasoning for gameplay is justified in my mind.

Omgus is a scummy move to make. No matter how you think about it you are literallly trying to kill a person who accuse you. I use omgus when I am scum, so I feel it is scummy to do.

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If gameplay has bannable info that DOESN'T help mu much or say much info why the hell would he bring that up? Think about it.

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I think gameplay is lying and was using that to allow for a possible fakelclaim. However the time wasn't right so he made up it was bannable. If he already asked if the info was bannable, why didn't he say that beforehand? He wanted to keep it to himself and never stated it wad bannable until I questioned him. He had so much possible scum motivation because of the possibility of a free lynch of a pr and him claiming something.

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To lynch anyone who claims pr.

He changed his mind because the time was not right.

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My point is that gameplay can pull a gambit with his "secret" info. He can say this pr claim is crap cuz we are all vt or something. If it is bannable and wake knows he wouldn't be playing.

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Plus it would've been pregame and replacements would be a simple find.

I don't know why but the facts don't add up. Maybe he could be secret sk and lie that there is no sk. I don't know but he can pull something off late game.

I don't know what he would do. That was an example.

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Sk is very common, I said these are an example of what could happen. Obviously he would not pull that off now but he had the chance if people ignored it.

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I think tree is leaning scum, and maybe psyche. I've tslked about tree and psyche is weird. If you noticed before my accusation he didnt say it was bannable.

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Tree did dumb fakelclaims and psyche is defending tree badly.

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Damnit. Of course you think I am scum. Can you read that I said gameplay might want to kill prs?

Why would I want to lynch a pr when I believe that there are prs in this game.

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It is a possibility but was just an example.

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you think that I would think that people will not notice stuff, when my case on gameplay is like that.

agreed with majiffy, exactly my point.

which makes me think gameplay is bsing it.

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I have explained my thought process on gameplay bs.

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UNVOTE:

why couldn't you just not bring up anything so we don't have ten pages of me getting mad?

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you could've set nothin about the setup. and we wouldn't have so much speculation about nothing.

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That being said I am going read tree again as I officially feel in an awkward position for my push on gameplay.

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top. and I'm still pretty pissed at you gameplay. I think I prefer a tree lynch then.

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VOTE: tree

follow reinoe since he is making sense

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tree has taken reinoes role and reinoe has become a genius

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Alina I have been posturing and pointing my finger at tree for the last 20 pages and was an early.supporter of the case until.gameplay. gameplay explained what's up and I unvoted him. I f you have been reading my posts you would actually know that I was ready to hop on the wagon

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are you saying I am unremarkable farsiide?

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I don't like being left out either

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I sad

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As for my lunch pool, I'm up for {Oka, Tex, NS}. The latter two are just sheeping, and Oka

is

was

pushing

nonsensicle

extremely good

reasoning too hard. Majiffy is working his way up there too.

ftfy

my reasoning is perfEct

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FINALLY AFTER 10 DAYS I NO LONGER HAVE TO POST ON MOBILE!!!!!!!!!

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How am I scum guys???

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So... why am I scum?

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Role pm reads scum

You're more focused on who is bsing than why they are bsing

(Scum try to push lynches based on who is lying, town needs to not only figure out if someone is lying but why)

Bullshit.

I have explained my reasoning on Gameplay scum and why he would do it. I had a whole conversation with Aero on possibilities of shit he might pull out his ass. Obviously Gameplay finally explained after ignoring this for 2 days, and not answering for 5 days, but that stills gives him scum cred.

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I was aggressive in a push because I thought gameplay was full of bs and wanted to lynch him. I felt he was scum and he played all secretly for no reason when he could've brought nothing up and make us not post pages about nothin.

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Yeah I am not going to be on the aero wagon because I think he claimed pr.

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Do you think I am still scum?

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Is it the same reason you said before?

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I was aggressive in a push because I thought gameplay was full of bs and wanted to lynch him. I felt he was scum and he played all secretly for no reason when he could've brought nothing up and make us not post pages about nothin.

And you think nothing of this?

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Why would I lynch a player who I believe is a pr, and do not have much scum read on him?

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A bit scummy, but honestly it can be swingy if he posts scummily or town.

For now I would prefer a tree lynch.

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Woah, that is interesting.

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Praise Majiffy?

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Your avatar looks so creepy

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Gameplay, are you seriosuly going to make Alina your slave?

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I think aero might be scum I am not going to argue with the wagon or join the wagon at the moment as I don't really have a strong opinion of it.

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Actually the thing is now everyone knows about aero being a rb, so your gambit won't work on finding scum in the neighborhood.

Anyways the wagon should fall apart and we should lynch tree already.

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Obviously titus is in a neighborhood herself.

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Welp someone didn't read the rules.

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WHICH IS WHY IF YOU READ THE RULES ROLEBLOCKERS CANT BLOCK ROLEBLOCKERS

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This game has a Day start.
This is a Closed Setup. Players won't know exactly what PRs are at play, if any.
There may be duplicate roles, and they can be either Town or Scum.
Scum do not have Daytalk. They may scheme in their QT thread at Night.
There may be a Neighborhood, or multiple Neighborhoods.
Roleblockers cannot be roleblocked.
Any role may be Town or Scum.
Mod is NOT infallible. If you suspect a mistake, please let me know via PM right away.
Should a Neighborhood be reduced down to one player, that QT link will be locked immediately, and remain hidden until game's end.
If a 1-Shot ability is used, and that player is roleblocked, he or she will have used up the shot.

This should help.

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How many votes is that?

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You can do that?

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How isn't tree dead yet?

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We test if Aeronaut is bsing it tmr.

Today we lynch tree, or titus, or gameplay.

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Why isnt tree dead yet?

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Change texcat with tree

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Are you all seriously not going to care about tree scum?

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All of tree's dumb gambits and terrible reactions to them, such as lurking the wagon away, and allowing his scum buddies to attack you so pressure is relieved.

Also wake broke the rules, so

@mod

we should obviously modkill wake for writing too small.

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And a long lime until the deadline, at this rate we will hit 100 pages before the day ends.

Can we lynch tree yet?

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WHY ISNT TREE DEAD YET?????!!!!!????!!!!!

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Your case?

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Same with you.

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By that logic my push on gameplay was doing something, and my push on tree is doing something. My wish to have aeronaut wagon disbanded is doing something.

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Are we really going to debate this?

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Tree's claims were terrible, and his response to his attack was almost nonexistent and terrible.

His defense was so nobody should vote the IC, when he obviously fakeclaimed. He didn't even say he was joking around.

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Elyse, your case on me is terrible. You should be voting someone who is scummy (tree), and I have done pushed against players I thought were scum. I have done a lot, and by that thought process you should kill ns.

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So you vote me with no case, great.

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I criticized a case that used non existing information, filled with bs and lies. With scum driven manipulation.

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I've said that like 3-4 times in the past few days...

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Wait wut

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Anyways scumreads are

Tree, NS, Gameplay, Farside, then Aero

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(sooooooooooooo, can I repeat my favorite line yet?)

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Fuck you

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Tree = Marquis? Hmmmmmm

That would explain his playstyle, and his not so active posting...

am I scum for being part of the noise

or am I scum for lurking

lets decide and get our facts straight

Sorry, Psyche and I are not the same person. There's no contradiction here, so you get a penalty.

But this

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VOTE: gameplay

only vote that makes sense and people are willing to join because tree wagon is going nowhere.

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Nice sheeping of Alina's tunnel you got there, ape.

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Sorry, I skim a lot. Can you ask your question and don't have it put in a wall, so I don't skim that post?

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WHERE IS IT?! HELP ME! With 93 pages of content day 1 i am going to skim alot.

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so for my full reads they are

SCUMMY AS SCUM CAN BE:

1. Tree, his gambits and lurking away the wagon is scummy as hell, and I feel he didn't do the gambits for the giggles due to the fact that he did it TWICE, and the joke gets old.

2. Gameplay: I can't believe how he states " think settup is mountainous" but then reveals it isn't with his talk with Wake. Basically he lead town on a rollercoaster to nothingness when he could've said nothing and we would all be happy. Plus omgus. Also he is a sheep of Alina. Plus no rvs.

Scummy:

1. Farside: blatant defending of tree, other than that not much from him.

2. Elsye: Worst case 2014, no idea what the hell she is doing, making up crap.

3. RoyalApe: great sheeping, no idea what you are doing either

Leaning Scum:

1. Notscience: Fluffy mc fluff fluff, can't lynch him for that.

2. Texcat: Comes out scummy however 2229 is pretty town, overall meh, a bit scummy.

3. Aeronaut: Never lie to town ever if it serves you no purpose, your claim was awkward.

4. Alina: DEATHTUNNEL

5. Psyche: Weirdly awkwarde

NULLLLLLLLL:

1. Aegor: Texcat push is understandable by meh and confusing.

2. PeregineV: Lurker

3. Tn5421: Too many walls much wow, can't get a grasp of your thoughts

4. Shaddowez: Lurker

5. Titus: Scummy, but her soft claim destroys that.

6. Mirhawk: Lurked early on, don't understand your points, and the jump on texcat was meh.

Leaning Town:

1. Majiffy: understandable leader, pusher, but not much other than that

2. TSO: goodjob, you appear town with your approach of questioning and finding out stuff

Town:

1. Josh_B: by far the towniest with his attention to slips, convincing arguments, well thought out posts.

Super mega ultra i feel conf town:

Occupied by Me

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So the order of the willingness to lynch for me is

Tree, gameplay, farside, elsye, ape, ns, texcat, aero, alina, psyche, aegor, peregine, tn, shaddow, titus, mirhawk, majiffy, tso, josh, then me.

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Oh and reinoe is leaning town

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then i will claim

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VOTE: tree


IT HAS BEEN REVIVED.

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2 possible wagons: Tree and Tex

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Tell me when I get to L-1/L-2.

Unless everyone wants to switch over to voting gameplay, my vote is on marquis.

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Also voting muffin man is fine by me, due to farside. Also muffin why aren't you voting anyone?

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alts

Marquis what was the point of tree and this post?

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oops screwed the quote up

Also I thought alts weren't allowed in Normal games?

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wat was de point

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loololloloolololololololol.

this is so hilarious, btw i already crumbed my role a long time ago.

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Sucks when scum is so much better than town. Sucks when town is enslaved by scum

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as soon as i get to L3 imma claim my role and then activated my epic plan

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whatever

im a doctor. good job guys

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Damnit. Of course you think I am scum. Can you read that I said gameplay might want to kill prs?

Why would I want to lynch a pr when I believe that there are prs in this game.

here is my crumb

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VOTE: psyche

goodjob fisherman

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well i have a plan that i hope works

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CC's don't do anything since their can be more than one role of the same kind. you are just asking for a CC so I can be lynched aren't you...

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I need you guys to agree with me that gameplay is the best choice of lynching.

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a crumb is better than no crumb

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well i was a pr, so I knew gameplay was lying...

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why would he state it in the first place? he already knew the game wasn't mountainous. I feel I have said this a million times.

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holy balls alina.

let me rephrase this

gameplay knew pregame this game wasn't mountainous, but still said this game might be mountainous

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no. i don't think tex is scum.

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Eh still not placing vote. Too much shit to read. SHIAT. So ye.

Also basically I saw Wake asking someone if making a montanious game with town members in neighboorhoods would be a good idea.

Oh and something else brings me to this

but idk if it will be against the rules to say it.

This is a Closed Setup. Players won't know exactly what PRs are at play, if any.

Ugh ye this and something else bring me to the idea it's mountanious. Also Wake basically wants to make only mountanious games so.

Speculating about setup like a boss.

Cus the info is bannable.

And Oka I can't really say how I missed it obviously lol. It's a fast developing game, my first large and when not having permanent computer acess, I get left with pages to read. So ye.

Our game is not Mountainous.

You may post this PM in-game.

So you had info that makes you think this game is mountainous, but you quoted that this game isn't mountainous?
That was from a talk I had with Wake yesterday. Sorry for the delay had to copy it

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So what gameplay is saying is that he this at first, got allowance to quote, but if you look at my bolded part it says that he has more info that leads him to thinking it is mountainous...

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how about we forget about this conversation and lynch marquis/tree

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im too tired to explain anything, i'll give it one last shot.

Gameplay speculates on the settup, he thinks it is mountainous.

He has info that is bannable, and info that leads him to thinking it is mountainous.

However he talks to wake and reveals it is not mountainous.

Which confuses me greatly.

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i give up on my explanation

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VOTE: tex

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tex i think is at l1

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lolwut

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VOTE: texcat

best wagon

psyche and muffin should help me mislynch this eternal glory scumteam for the

Ugh.

Alina:

Best Scumhunter 2014

The crumb is kind of late, why did you wait so long to post it? I'm thinking there's a small possibility you're scum who randomly came up with the idea to crumb a bit into the day, but I don't want to risk lynching a PR day one, so... :/

I'm less sure of this but it's pretty much the only other viable wagon since I'm not a fan of the Marquis one:

VOTE: texcat

And no, I'm not voting gameplay. That's like one of the stupidest possible lynches today IMO.

VOTE: tex

Hey NS you haven't explained your scumread on me and considering I'm obvtown, I'm curious to find out. It's also strange to me because I've been agreeing with you pretty much all game and defending you. Do you think I'm buddying you?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: texcat

Because I don't want a no lynch and even if he flips town we can blame Aegor.

vote: texboy

And the previous vote count had him at 5.


Lol. K. Shoot the doc. Genius

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also tex isn't hammered yet since tn is already voting him.


My epic plan is not revealed yet.

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wait, my epic plan my fail... hmmmmmm

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lol wut. you dropped the hammer? how am i obvscum?

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i dont get it

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ah i see

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oh marquis was already voting tex. derp

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texdawg

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we need to lynch gameplay tmr.

srs

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cool. disagree all you want.

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why i am sayin it now.

but hopefully my awesome plan works.

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my awesome plan is awesome. Ill explain it post game.

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woah, tex went from lynched to l1 lol

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then we can we lynch in under 24 hours. Unless you guys lynch ggameplay with me.

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Since when did people start lynching claimed prs?

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omg if you town seriously lynch me i will rage.

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i did. go reread my point.

there is a thing called the roleblocker that is most likely in this game and most likely used on any investigative role.

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whatever, i give up, but i still think you are scum.

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VOTE: AEGOR

REVERSE WAGON?

we have like 12 hours

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at this point im willing to lynch most people. just gotta go with the flow.

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anyone want to counter wagon on shaddowz or peregrine? they ain't posting much and words from them would be nice

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lurkers must die

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VOTE: texy tex

just in case any miss counts. Well I'm off fellows!

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but Aegor was macho....

anyways we need to know why Elsye and Tso were killed

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FOS Titus

What were your results.
VOTE: tex

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Titus, Mirhawk, reinoe, notscience

these people should ashamed of lynching a claimed pr.

I will lynch Mirhawk, reinoe, notscience, due to they aren't prs. But my FOS still stands.

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Actually Reinoe would never lynch a pr.

VOTE: Reinoe

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Why did you push for aegor after he claimed?

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When you could've supported Tex wagon, and lynch Tex?

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So titus or reinoe would be cool.

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I'd lynch him again in a heartbeat if it was that over a no lynch

bite me, scumfuck

we couldve counterwagoned to tex.

though it wasn't really your fault

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Because you still took part in the lynching and could've tried to reverse it.

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But I'd prefer the lynch Reinoe or Titus right now.

I'll update my scumreads later.

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Well aegor was telling the truth...

VOTE: Oka poka

I'm being a bit reckless, even for me.

Scum

teams can't let all these PRs run around. More when I get home.

Wait wut

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VOTE: titus

being cryptic doesn't help town.

We can all be friends and lynch her!

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(lets take out titus)

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I protected Josh, he is pr, and probably the strongest town player.

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Ill also be willing to lynch Ape.

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SCUM LIST

In order of willingness to to lynch.

Titus, Ape, Muffinman, Gameplay, Texcat, Shaddow, Psyche, Ns

[OkaPoka]

Actually not muffin.

[OkaPoka]

I was on aegor's wagon till he claimed.


And you know that. My question is why aren't you dead.