NY 173: Knight-Errant 2 - GAME OVER!

[Titus]

Ok. Confirming here. Can someone get me the D1 wagon?

Also, our other mason should stay quiet atm. Spring it like an ic claim. Of course this supposes no claim already.

Will skimread tonight.

[Titus]

Antihero, what the fuck? Really...I just said you essentially had an ic and you fucking do that. I want the real mason to keep quiet.

Can we talk about Twisted? Based solely on wagon position he looks good to be a scumbus at the end.

[Titus]

VOTE: Twisted advice

We are talking about him if we are waiting for a leader.

[Titus]

Everyone seems to be waiting on someone else to lead them. This is bad/lazy town.

i'm waiting on the null posters (which is pretty much everybody) to actually post something that can be used to determine alignment.

like a reads list.

That's not happening until I am able to interact with people.

[Titus]

Dunno what Titus is on about.

I'm just waiting for Lemniscate to be lynched.

Iago

Your position on the wagon is an ideal bus vote. Many of the other day 1 posters are dead. No one wanted to engage when I suggested we talk about you. So I voted you. No engagement. So fuck yeah, my gut screams you are scum.

[Titus]

Point 1, would require me to actually read the thread. I want interactions before I do.
Point 2, according to the mod's VCA you were in the middle of the wagon.
Point 3, scum don't like to talk about their buddies, so yeah this sends a flag, especially with a barebones vote which I rarely do.
Point 4, is saying no one reacted to my weaker vote. No one put a position on you. It had nothing to do with your activity level.

[Titus]

@grey Uh.... i didn't have to ISO guzame to know he said nothing. The fact that both times he posted, people commented a lot on his lack of content.

Can you cite a source please? Otherwise i will believe that you are trying to make it seem like i am scum by making up data.

These two are town posts.

I do not know who his predecessor is though but he sounds noob

wrong, sir

WRONG

Vote Count 1.24

mnemonicdevice (7) - GreyICE, Turkish Van, jbomber732, Antihero, Lords of the Unreal, beastcharizard, MonkeyMan576
Bicephalous Bob (5) - PeregrineV, Twisted Advice, MafiaSSK, mnemonicdevice, Katarina LeBlanc
jbomber732 (1) - burn_209
beastcharizard (1) - Hopkirk
GreyICE (1) - Kublai Khan
PeregrineV (1) - Bicephalous Bob
Kublai Khan (1) - Metal Sonic

Not Voting (1) - notscience

18 alive, 10 to lynch. Deadline is set for 3 weeks from now, on April 21st, 2014 at 6:00 p.m., PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-04-21 18:00:00)

Turkish Van's penguin_alien head is V/LA through April 9th.

This VCA is the one I am using. Yeah scum can hammer their buddies. You know who else wants to force lynches... Serial Killers. I'm not a fan of your slot by gut and I'm drawing reactions. If you're town, have faith I'll townread you soon enough.

[Titus]

I do. You then realize that your buddy getting lynched is inevitable... hammer or you're the SK and are fine with hammering anything that isn't you. I see no reason to suddenly change your mind.

Quit pestering me. I will confbias you and I've barely touched the game.

I'm on page 1. Mala claimed evil queen. Pah! Please honey. I cleaned house with a boned game you didn't even post in.

[Titus]

Did you just call us an SK for lynching someone? I'll have you know we're clear of being the SK per having been roleblocked.

Then I'm pretty sure someone will confirm that. I'm drawing people out. Dead game needs energy. If I have to do random shit to do that, I will.

[Titus]

*titus

...
shit...

There's a problem with me being town?

Who all is eliminated as being the SK?

Vote Count 4.05

Lemniscate (3) - Kublai Khan, Twisted Advice, zMuffinMan
Turkish Van (3) - Antihero, Lords of the Unreal, Cho
Kublai Khan (1) - Lemniscate
Cho (1) - Turkish Van
Twisted Advice (1) - Titus

Not Voting (1) - jbomber732

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

Deadline is June 17th, 11:00 a.m. PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-06-17 11:00:00)

[Titus]

As SK I would use the strongman early, and push the line TA is pushing. My gut says one of the heads is Varsoon too.

Mala, I am the queen of the scums when scum. There isn't anything you can do about it. Someday, we will be in multiball on opposing factions and I will show you. You left your buddy boned by not even posting in the thread and dying. Who cleaned it up? Me.

[Titus]

alright, twisted can be town

got any other reads, titus?

The only people who tell me I cannot do something are scum.

My reasons aren't shit.

As for reads, I have to finish what I am doing first.

[Titus]

The malakittens hydra pulled ahead of Cho is the scummiest race.

I don't think there's a terribly town reason why she's examining the fine print of the SK role.

This is not town, possibly SK.

Town need to know who is clear and who is not. Town would read fine print.

[Titus]

Titus, if your points weren't shit, you wouldn't have had to pretend this post never happened-

You just changed your story.

Your position on the wagon is an ideal bus vote.

-we hammered scum

Point 2, according to the mod's VCA you were in the middle of the wagon.

I have just proved your initial point wrong. We were not in the middle of the wagon. Now you're somehow trying to twist that so that your initial point still stands? Because it definitely doesn't. You obviously did not realize what was going on when you initially accused us of bussing, so why are you now pretending otherwise?

You bussed. You told me I cannot do something. Shut up scum. I am getting reads now.

[Titus]

because someone called you and twisted cleared and her point is that that's not entirely true

seems pretty straightforward to me...

Still points to someone SK-hunting rather than mafia-hunting.

Town hunt both. Sit down, not town. Let the master operate.

[Titus]

Twisted, this is the first time I have done that.

Oh and you demolished nothing but it's imposdible since I am pushing with a strawman.

Being town aligned jackass is fun.

[Titus]

i read the fine print of the SK role

does that make me scum?

Announcing it and making sure everyone else is thinking about the SK is scummy.

Wtong again. Town juggle both factions. Go defenstrate your game self.

[Titus]

Anti, don't ask the master for explanations. It ruins the fun.

TA, my past slot has behavior? I didn't notice. I bet we claimed Batman. Batman is fun.

[Titus]

Turkish Van is totes town according to my rng.

[Titus]

This is probably the

shittiest scum gambit

best town play I have ever seen

Shit and scum don't come near each other when I am scum.

[Titus]

Anti, TV is totes totes town. He's full of Swedish Furniture sold by young kids.

[Titus]

*shakes magic 8 ball again* Ask about TV on Monday.

[Titus]

k

i understand. Now let's lynch the not towns. Take your pick between TA or KK, or we could choocooo Cho for shits and giggles.

[Titus]

Gambit done. I'm sorry for the cocky ass attitude.

I wanted to get under the skin of active players to see their reactions. The case on TA was total shit when I was pushing it. I pushed it to see his alignment.

Of course, his hypersensitivity indicates he is scum/SK. He basically accuses my deliberately antagonistic personality of being a scum tell when most sensible players would see it as town. That is because he was

afraid I'd get my shit together

. He says I'm scum, yet doesn't vote for me. Why?

KK is scum because that push on Mala was shitty as all get out. Scum because someone read the rules. That's bullshit and KK is searching for justifications.

I'm also fine with TV. I was just trying to get under Anti-Hero's skin and crumb what I was doing at the same time.

The gamestate is seriously fucked up here. We got two scum N1 and then nothing. That told me scum infiltrated the town blocks and people needed to quit being complacent. So I didn't read the game, made shit up and said stuff solely to provoke people.

[Titus]

Cho is probably town. Lemiscate... well he is voting a likely scum so lean town.

I'm not ok with you being dead. I'm ok with Turkish Van dying.

[Titus]

God damn it. You are fucking hydra leaking so bad I read you as two separate players. I'll revisit that.

[Titus]

So it's been a while since I've played with AJ, but I think he's the one who claimed cop as Mafia traitor in NY 161 and got two townies lynched for the eventual win. That kind of attitude implies to me that if he thought he was near a lynch he wouldn't be claiming VT. Scum's down a PR, and town is at full strength. Mafia should be able to track the possible knight jumps that could connect their two PRs. (like if they assume their roleblocker is from the upper right corner, the next jump can only go to cop or town BP, and the jump after that has to connect with their second PR; same process with the other roleblocker square) making it worth trying to fish out a claim or brazen it out with a fake PR claim as scum.

Not interested in an AJ lynch any more.

notscience, what's your read on Katarina that you're holding your vote over her head?

VOTE: Hopkirk

Nothing in his posts says town, nothing's changed. Wagon is very likely on scum, and we get good info from it even if I'm wrong.

--PA

Can you explain the rationale behind this post? Is it possible to deduce what scum likely have left here?

[Titus]

Nope Mala. Upon review, you aren't getting lynched either.

I'm putting my foot down. It's either KK or TA that gets lynched today. My preference is for TA but I'll take either at this point.

[Titus]

If you were calm, it would have been no problem. Yet you were swearing up and down, calling me scum in a panic all over a case we both knew was shit. Town wouldn't panic. Scum would. So you can take your self-preservationist badge. I'll go chill out with a bottle of vodka.

I'm still waiting for my obligatory OMGUS by the way.

[Titus]

Oh I am perfectly being useful. Sometimes it is better to start shit, get activity going before posting. I'm obviously not wrong because you guys are freaking out. I pulled the same crap on mala and Anti. They took it like champs.

I also knew that day 1 would be the key. The rest is the wolves leading the hen house. So I did take a legitimate look at the n1 wagon. Who is off? Twisted and Kublai.

Oh and you only

think

I haven't read. I say those things so you use that as a method of grasping. I'm closing it now.

[Titus]

Scum can be caught at any point based on any reaction. I hypothetically, didn't need 68 pages to know that accusing someone of being scum for reading the rules is a scumclaim.

I don't need to read 68 pages to know that hypersensitivity is a scum claim.

[Titus]

jmbomer, give me reasons. Given the fact I'm pretty sure some of your reads are wrong, we need to talk. Also, why did you skip Antihero?

I also confuse everyone. I'm VERY open to clarifying anything confusing.

[Titus]

I've put in plenty given you're hyperactiveness to discredit me.

Also, for

reading the thread

you got it wrong. Twisted hammered. So he technically was on the wagon.

The game was stagnant before I showed up. I'm reviving it.

[Titus]

A) So you've played with me, great. Why don't you tell the class why I shouldn't be listened to solely because

I am Titus

. Can you do it without crumbing one of your heads to me?
B) Disagreeing with me is a reason to have a dialouge, not to turn on the discredit machine... that is unless you are scum
C) I didn't to anyone who actually understood what I was doing. So if you are town, you really don't understand the annoying jackass gambit.


Antihero, that vote is not a good vote. Vote the scums with me. Your vote is a lurker/personality vote. Please have a dialouge with me or sheep me.

Vote Count 4.07

Lemniscate (4) - Kublai Khan, Twisted Advice, zMuffinMan, Antihero
Turkish Van (2) - Lords of the Unreal, Cho
Twisted Advice (2) - Titus, Lemniscate
Cho (1) - Turkish Van

Not Voting (1) - jbomber732

10 alive, 6 to lynch.

Deadline is June 17th, 11:00 a.m. PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-06-17 11:00:00)

[Titus]

Antihero, scum love to take town on rides to lynch Anti-town. I totally used this to my advantage in Mini Theme Upick 1539. We had a guy who literally on day 1 would refuse to vote anyone but one other guy. He got lynched. Then, there was a bunch of other anti-town behavior. One guy was so convinced I was scum, he CCed my suicide bomber claim. Given the levels of derp, I even talked my way out of exploding on him.

So yeah, Lemi is easy bait to lynch. For a player like that, you watch the prods like a hawk.

[Titus]

Can't tell if Lemi is sheeping or has his own unique thoughts...

Jbomber, I am asking what gives you those vibes so we can have a conversation. Saying he's scum no but he's scum convinces no one.

Cho, why do you want TV to be scum? It's ok to admit you have a bias in that regard. However, let's talk evidence.

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

<3

<3 Nice gambit vote. Now vote the scums with me Nati.

[Titus]

titus

have you actually read much of the game yet?

I've read the game. Yes.

My reads are my reads. Only the first day and the time since I replaced in have usable content unless I was to go back and did through to make a case. The time periods where I wasn't present always have less value to me.

So I'm just going to sit here and be stubborn like I should have done on Amrun in Death's Diner.

[Titus]

VOTE: Titus

<3

<3 Nice gambit vote. Now vote the scums with me Nati.

Kaze. This is Kaze. I'm in this hydra too, tyvm.

Kaze, I never saw you do hearts...

[Titus]

now i'm kinda' back to wanting to lynch TV

goddamnit...

I didn't think you were ever off my lynch. If I'm not mistaken you haven't removed your vote from me.

Mala, you and I both know the quickest way to mislynch is to keep defending.

Talk to me about TA and KK scum. Did you see something that cleared them from being both roles?

[Titus]

I think two mafia and an SK is terribly evil sided. That would be 5 anti-towns in a group of 15.

[Titus]

You do realize this is a semi open game, yes?

~The Royal Vizier

Yup all roles are in the first post.

What's wrong with hypersensitivity and scum pushing shitty lynches for shitty reasons? Those are good reasons. I don't need to make a 40 page wall to reach the same conclusion. I can go back and cherry pick scummy moments. Or I can be short and sweet. Everyone would prefer the latter.

[Titus]

What's wrong with hypersensitivity

i don't think anything they said was "hypersensitive" and even if it was i don't see how it's scummy?

pushing shitty lynches for shitty reasons

what is this referring to?

I'm referring to Khan's case on TV being the SK.

He said she was scum because she read the rules. To me, that's a neon scumclaim.

I'll do your cherry picking in the next day or two.

Now unvote Lem everyone. They are fucking town and lynchbait. If you lynch Lem, none of you will have the balls to lynch the actual scum and probably run around lynching TV or some nonsense.

Scum have control of the town, and have since the first bus. Who is leading this lynch? Oh right,

my scumreads

. Who has been leading other lynches beyond day 1?

My scumreads

[Titus]

Being wrong is not a scumtell. Using bullshit reasoning to question anyone who may emerge as a town leader counterpart is a problem.

When we have multiple mislynches in a row, it's time to question the leaders. If you aren't scum, I shouldn't be able to prove you are.

[Titus]

The malakittens hydra pulled ahead of Cho is the scummiest race.

I don't think there's a terribly town reason why she's examining the fine print of the SK role.

This post right here Cho.

He's discouraging familiarity of the setup. We all should read and examine the fine print of the roles. To call someone scum for this highlights someone stretching for reasons to call someone scum. He also has a bullshit 180 on you. He said you were town, but you coasted to much so nope.

[Titus]

Cho, I'll be making cases on the both of them when I finish a full read through of the game. I want to make sure the posts I found are not taken out of context before I say they are evidence someone is scummy or townie.

That being said, the facts that a) we got a successful lynch day 1 and not a day since 2) KK was off the wagon and TA hammered and they've been townleaders since and 3) Lemniscate agrees with my scumreads makes me very cautious about this wagon. Behaviorally though, I've only seen him regurgitate what I have said. He's a nullread objectively but I don't want to lynch him given the current game state.

[Titus]

We all should read and examine the fine print of the roles

tbh i interpreted that as kk saying, "why is mala doing that right now?" rather than criticising someone for reading the setup

Town should

always

be doing that. Setup cracking is the duty of everyone, regardless of alignment. Your comment is a distinction without a difference.

@KK - Preemptive discredit noted.

[Titus]

limited vla, house offer accepted

[Titus]

We all should read and examine the fine print of the roles

tbh i interpreted that as kk saying, "why is mala doing that right now?" rather than criticising someone for reading the setup

Town should

always

be doing that. Setup cracking is the duty of everyone, regardless of alignment. Your comment is a distinction without a difference.

@KK - Preemptive discredit noted.

Discrediting you is a town tell

Iago

Discrediting a player is never a towntell.

[Titus]

I want to vote lem but will you guys consider me scum for hopping on an easy wagon?

Nope, but asking permission to vote tends to be scummy.

[Titus]

Khan, another discredit. Do you care to pretend you think I am scum? Town work with their townreads rather than discrediting them.

[Titus]

Hardly, my cases aren't superficial.

Kaze, it feels awesome to draw SK. Too bad I didn't get it this game.

Anti, tomorrow I'm claiming cop. With a guilty or innocent I know to be true.

I'll just hammer Lemniscate to show you how fucking town he was because no one is going to listen to me until I'm proven right.

Muffin, you were right btw. Khan is just muddying the waters with his attack without taking a position. Mala is starting from what's possible in direct response to my question... "Who is eliminated from being the SK?" Mala: No one cuz strongman. Totally townie response.

VOTE: Lemniscate

pedit: My vote is probably hammer +1 but I don't give a fuck. The scums are in a prisoner's dillemma.

[Titus]

if you really are cop, claim your 3 results; that's more than enough to break this game.

Nope. I don't get SK results. Will claim tomorrow. I need one more check.

[Titus]

"Tomorrow I'm claiming cop"? Who the hell says that?

Iago

Iago.

you need to learn how to speak "Titus".

you need more patience.

Throw in a bit of ika and you got my checks.

[Titus]

Sigh... I told you so. I'm VT.

no, you don't get to do the sigh + "told you so".

don't replace into game you won't read.

if she really flips town, look into malahydra, Cho, and jbomber.

No... look at TA and KK. For the love of God.

[Titus]

if you really are cop, claim your 3 results; that's more than enough to break this game.

Nope. I don't get SK results. Will claim tomorrow. I need one more check.

And if you drop dead tonight?

Antihero knows. I've just told him. Don't try to understand it. You'll give yourself a headache with the unlogic.

[Titus]

Ugh

UNVOTE:

Dude Lem is dead.

[Titus]

He did. Scum led wagon.

[Titus]

Oh shit...

Well there goes that plan and I'm totally fucking wrong...

Anyone have an idea of who TA checked?

[Titus]

GreyICE

, Turkish Van, jbomber732,

Antihero, Lords of the Unreal, beastcharizard, MonkeyMan576, MafiaSSK, Hopkirk, Twisted Advice

If there was bussing at all on the day one wagon, it must be TV, jbomber

Major counterwagon

Bicephalous Bob (3)

-

PeregrineV, mnemonicdevice,

Katarina LeBlanc

==================

Hopkirk (8) - beastcharizard, Antihero, Twisted Advice, Metal Sonic,

Katarina LeBlanc, Turkish Van,

Bicephalous Bob, Lords of the Unreal

That looks really bad for TV.

Aj The Epic (2) - notscience, jbomber732

Jbomber is on confirmed town wagon, but so is Cho's slot.

=============

Lemniscate (6) - Kublai Khan,

Twisted Advice,

zMuffinMan, Cho, jbomber732,

Antihero

This wagon doesn't tell us as much, but a policy lynch when TV was being discussed..

[Titus]

Looking at the flips, that we got 50% of the Mafia before Day Two and none of them since then indicates that something seriously wacky is going on with the scum hunting here. I don't have a good sense of the game rhythm here, but it seems very likely that we have groupscum directing a lot of the scum hunting somehow. I'll be looking for that in my reread.

khan has a big hand in that, but i don't know if he's scum

zmuffinman played a more subtle role in a it, and i do think he's scum

actually
VOTE: zmuffinman

That's what I was saying yesterday and it lead me to TA and KK.

TA suddenly winds up dead. I'm not exactly surprised... it suggests KK is the SK or someone wants to frame him.

[Titus]

@TV, I never gave one. I was saying my claim was fake all along. ika is someone who I play with and he frequently gambits. I was saying I was claiming cop tomorrow to draw a nightkill and create the very scenario I was explaining, considering no one was listening to me.

[Titus]

@TV, I never gave one. I was saying my claim was fake all along. ika is someone who I play with and he frequently gambits. I was saying I was claiming cop tomorrow to draw a nightkill and create the very scenario I was explaining, considering no one was listening to me.

Looking at the table, a Mafia RB and a Mafia BP mean that the in-between move is either on Town Cop or Town Gunsmith with a flipped Town Roleblocker. The ambiguity of your claim makes me think you were actually trying to smoke out the last town PR. Do explain why I'm wrong, any time.

--PA

I can't even see how that would draw out the last town PR. My claim was not ambiguous at all. I specifically said I was claiming town cop tomorrow, and I crumbed my own claim was bullshit. The only players capable of understanding me were you, Antihero (conftown) and possible Marquis. Everyone else wouldn't understand it at all. It literally was a no risk plan, but of course if it nets me scum it's a good idea.

You also look solid for being scum based on VCA. The wagon surrounding you at the start of the day is off.

My only concern is this being too easy.

[Titus]

Big hand? Lemniscate was the only one whose lynch I really strongly pushed.

yeah, and that wagon laid a huge fart. AND you forced an atmostphere yesterday where it was either going to be Lemni or nobody because you were so goddamn stubborn

Oh I wish that sheer stubbornness could actually force a my way or the high way Antihero.

[Titus]

Big hand? Lemniscate was the only one whose lynch I really strongly pushed.

yeah, and that wagon laid a huge fart. AND you forced an atmostphere yesterday where it was either going to be Lemni or nobody because you were so goddamn stubborn

True. But I sat through a couple of fruitless town lynches so I felt maybe I should be more forceful with who I wanted lynched.

How in the world would it net you scum?

it wouldn't have. titus was obviously fakeclaiming to draw the scum kill. i knew it at the time, but didn't say a word.

considering this is a multiball game, and there's no mafia BP, i actually think that's really town

Well, I figured it was a fakeclaim, because no cop is stupid enough to promise result tomorrow. But if it worked and he got NKed, I don't see how that would net him scum.

Do you think it's town because he might have drawn a cross-kill?

Only scum would feel scared of me the way I was playing early on.

TA's hyper defensiveness is a little more understandable given they were the cop.

[Titus]

My gut based on the VCs says to lynch TV or jbomber... all three scum not bussing day 1? How rarely does that happen?

TV imo my gut says more likely SK based on end lynch VCs

gtg see you tomorrow

[Titus]

Well, I figured it was a fakeclaim, because no cop is stupid enough to promise result tomorrow. But if it worked and he got NKed, I don't see how that would net him scum.

Do you think it's town because he might have drawn a cross-kill?

do what now?

if it worked and titus got NK'd, we'd have one more cop result.

...this really isn't that hard to understand, khan, are you being intentionally dense?

Ah. I'm not paying that much attention to the setup. I didn't know for sure if there was a cop. I thought it was just bluster.

I didn't either at the time. I was just trying to bait a kill really.

[Titus]

Also, at first I trusted Turkish Van's application of self meta on the idea that scum wouldn't risk doing it. Then I realized that I'm too lazy to check it and on policy don't like it because I still have the feeling Turkish Van is mafia.

The idea that you don't bus that often, and therefore didn't bus now, is one that I don't just like on policy, but that I also don't like because it sounds way too much like a probability fallacy.

I missed this. I use self-meta in response to triggering events all the time. It's null.

[Titus]

Jbomber, quit defending and give us new content please.

[Titus]

While I still think KK is scum, I think the prudent course of action is to limit the lynch to TV or jbomb as the day 1 wagon likely had at least one busser. Discuss.

[Titus]

Me too but is it prudent to do so? I don't want a setup where we have to lynch scum and they are both alive. Do you?

[Titus]

but then you're betting on khan being SK.

i think he could be either flavor

Not precisely. I see at least one of TV/jbomb being not town.

I see KK as not town.

[Titus]

Zmuffin thoughts on 1882?

[Titus]

Zmuffin, while KK's case was shitty...does it make sense TV would do a wrong setup determination and scrutinize the sk role closely?

[Titus]

3 of the 7 players alive are scum.

also this is precisely why scum are dumb fucks. going for cross kills and leaving conftown alive in 7p is lolworthy

How do you two know that? I have been proceeding on a two antitown player assumption.

[Titus]

VOTE: TV

More scum makes it even more likely thst the D1 wagon was not solely tow.

[Titus]

Guys, the safe play is lynching one of TV/Bomber.

[Titus]

@TV, if the wagon is all town, at least one scum faction will kill jbomber tonight, who is essentially dead weight. Given the fact I'm 90% sure that the wagon is NOT all town (given the reluctance to go along with the plan and the unlikely odds).

I'm open to lynching jbomber, but unless someone proves to me that you both are town, I think that's the wisest option. Otherwise, y'all are mislynch bait for tomorrow if we don't figure it out.

Can you tell me who killed TA?

[Titus]

Ok the next person to post prod dodge has explaining to do. It sounds like no one really wants to put their money down on TV versus jbomber. All the more reason to lynch there.

[Titus]

Fuck it

VOTE: jbomber

[Titus]

Yup bomber's scum.

Just did a brief meta dive on him. Compare his posts here to newbie 1421. Over apologies everywhere. In his town games, not so much.

[Titus]

LOL. You're saying I'm playing reckless? Really.

You might as well make it official with a vote, that is unless you're afraid to look bad.

[Titus]

Oh really? Who are those better options? Why haven't you pushed them?

Why does a vote on you suddenly give you the time to post?

I actually don't give a fuck, which of you dies, but you look more like scum. So I'm voting you. :-p You haven't done shit for days now.

Oh and believe me, I am listening.

[Titus]

Now why are they scum? Why haven't you pushed them as scum?

Amazing how you're no longer dodging under pressure.

Mod: Can we get some more prods please? I can't lynch scum by myself.

[Titus]

Ok first of all, I was prodded, so I dodged it. Then you posted, so I naturally responded..As I said before my suspects are muffin and KK.

and you still don't vote

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Antihero/Marquis/TV, I asked the who killed TA question based on who would stand to gain from it. The most seems to be KK due to the discredit it casts on me (self centered gamer I am). I'm not opposed to the KK lynch, I just don't think he's the safest one.

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God damn it... they're probably BOTH scum

but I can't rule out zmuffin either... shit

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VLA from the 26th until the 31st

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prod dodge...

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There is one thing I am concerned about with TV... not enough scumreading of me but maybe the other head thinks I am town.

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Ok Antihero is town. Khan is probably scum but I want to review the game when I am not on vla.

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Derp, there's only Muffin voting Khan. Antihero isn't conftown but probably.

Khan, yeah. You are making me want to vote you more. You start with an early vote in mylo and immediately change gears. My arguments haven't sucked btw. Oh and I'm obvtown for getting jbomber lynched. Even an SK lynch is better for scum as lylo would be the result.

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Forgot lol. I am a wee bit dustracted. Back to conftown for you. This is what I get for hurry posting.

Anyway, I am pretty sure KK is the last scum. I don't see scum Burn bussing jbomber so hard day 1 when there already was a major scumwagon in memonic.

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Seriously, I basically drive through a train on scum and y'all vote me without giving me a chance to respond knowing I'd be back tomorrow. Y'all deserved to lose this.