NY 173: Knight-Errant 2 - GAME OVER!

[jbomber732]

yay for rvs!

Vote Blue

because hes the only person in the game I remember

[jbomber732]

nvm who is blue.. i dont even know.

VOTE bob

[jbomber732]

Oh so you're in this game sometimes mala?

[jbomber732]

KK seems towny to me, and I scumread bob a bit, (the vote was from RVS). Guys, tbh i'm really getting some town vibes from hopkirk

[jbomber732]

hop is very townish

I agree. Also, I scumread you a little, but not enough to keep the random vote that I placed on you, so

UNVOTE

[jbomber732]

Annnnntiiiiii!

You don't have an opinion on me Anti!

I'm sad.

Why meta anti?

never pegged you for the needy type, greyice...
._.

what about meta (who's meta)...?

"You don't sound like you did in X Bob!" Meta makes me sad, Anti. Sadness can only be cured with murder.

Is jbomber the scums, anti?

What does that mean?

[jbomber732]

I'm so confused...Why are you just saying my name?

[jbomber732]

eh, jbomber reads a lot more newb to me
i don't think so

This is my first non-newbie game, so I'm a bit confused with some things, such as hydras. But I'm a quick learner and hopefully you don't judge me just because im less experienced.

[jbomber732]

Hopkirk, you weren't even in RVS. You just came in throwing around a vote for bad reasons. Then after you had to reply you made yourself look worse not better. When are the bigger reasons going to come? You tried to start a wagon on someone and had nothing behind it. You are throwing stuff out and hoping it sticks. What is your opinion on me exactly?


@Bomber:

You should just pretend this is a newbie game actually. I probably play with the amount of skill new players have anyway so it shouldn't be hard. Can you expand on your Hopkirk townness and your Bob scumness reads please?

Ok well bob sorta seems like he is saying what people want to hear sometimes, and he seems to be making reads up. Reminder its not a strong read. Its sorta just a gut read in a way. Hop seems like he is town, and he acts towny. I'm bad at explaining my reads, but I'll quote things when they come up.

Vote Count 1.06

Bicephalous Bob (3) - Twisted Advice, GreyICE, Antihero
Lords of the Unreal (3) - Turkish Van, MafiaSSK, Lords of the Unreal
MafiaSSK (2) - MonkeyMan576, PeregrineV
GreyICE (1) - Kublai Khan
Turkish Van (1) - notscience
Antihero (1) - Bicephalous Bob
MonkeyMan576 (1) - Hopkirk
Hopkirk (1) - beastcharizard

Not Voting (5) - Katarina LeBlanc, Metal Sonic, Guzame, burn_209, jbomber732

18 alive, 10 to lynch. Deadline is set for 3 weeks from now, on April 21st, 2014 at 6:00 p.m., PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-04-21 18:00:00)

[jbomber732]

you're not getting a reaction

Coaching your scumbuddies already bob?

if you're town you really have to play better because you are looking really scummy right now

Ok I'll do that. So this quote just gave me a bad look at him because if thats all he really has to say, then the read doesn't seem genuine.

[jbomber732]

snarky

This doesn't seem like his personality, and it seems forced.

[jbomber732]

@kk I voted bob in the RVS, not because of any scumread. I already said that before. I mentioned that I thought there was someone in the game named blue and I voted for them cuz i dont lke that color. I realized there wasnt and changed my RV. I'm sorry that I can't expand my townread on hop, but i get town vibes from him.

[jbomber732]

Guzame, you read all eight pages, and the most interesting thing you found was that there were hydras? So, the OP. If you're really that interested in the merits of hydras, there are MD threads for that. Comments on the game content, please.
--PA

Actually, that was my reply to at least 2 pages worth of discussion on the topic of Hydras, not the OP.
But I guess you're right, I should take that complaint elsewhere, not in this game.

And my opinion on the game so far? I honestly didn't see any "scummy" tells so far. It mostly seemed like joking to keep a conversation going to me.
The only thing that struck out to me(besides the Hydra conversation) was that I feel like Hopkirk got attacked very heavily with little reason, while he honestly looks like a townie to me.

You set off my scumtell sensor. You don't have ONE major or even minor scumread?

[jbomber732]

PSA: twisted is town

[jbomber732]

I think that does make guza seem even worse, because he seems to be employing the same strategy.

[jbomber732]

I think that does make guza seem even worse, because he seems to be employing the same strategy.

A clever deduction.

Vote: jbomber

I CANNOT TAKE IT ANYMORE

GO BE NEWBSCUM IN A DIFFERENT TOWN

What? He said that it could be that he's scum again, or it could be that hes a newbie. I said I think he's scum again. I'm go be newbie-town in another game after this, sorry.

[jbomber732]

Grey is a slight townread for me btw.

[jbomber732]

No.

I've played with plenty and plenty of newbie town. They have a variety of playstyles. Some of them even come out and tell the town they have no bloody idea what they're doing and need guidance.

You're dancing back and forth like you need to pee but don't want to make any noise, waiting for one of us to give you permission to do the voting thing.

Well excuse me I'll go use the bathroom. I'm not waiting for anyone to give me any permission, I just am not voting for anyone now (though im close to voting for guza)

[jbomber732]

Oh grey is your role model. If he says I'm scum I must be scum. *facepalm*

[jbomber732]

It is? Sorry I haven't studied my mafiascum textbook recently.

[jbomber732]

*sigh* Ok listen. Just because I don't act the way a town should most of the time, doesn't mean that I'm not town. Frankly, I act so scummy, and I even know it. You can ask mala, who in a previous game saw this exact thing happen to me. That's why I was excited mala was here, because there'd be someone who knows how I play, and wouldn't be so fast to jump on me.

[jbomber732]

Holy shit bomber is town for 239

I don't even have to read any of the rest of his posts.

Anti if you're thinking that 239 can come from scum-alignment that's a big negatory but we can chat about that later.

@NatiKaze

I'll make you guys a doublevoter if I get access to the townbloc pls and ty (

I hope they don't realize I'm looking for a reason to sheep

)

Hopkirk wagon bores me. He gets wagoned a lot, happened in a newbie game we were in together.

UNVOTE:

For now.

Is that implying that you haven't read any of my other posts?

[jbomber732]

Well on 1 side skimming posts is scummy, but on the other side honestly admitting that you skimmed them is towny. Therefore you are a null

[jbomber732]

Well town usually reads posts thoughroly *fail spelling* and really tries to be open and notices things. Scum usually is less caring, and I don't know like skims, (doesn't say they do though) Sorry im not experienced with the way scum plays since the only time ive ever been scum was my first game on this site and I was lynched d1. So I'm more experienced as town.

[jbomber732]

Because I didn't know how to spell it. It was a derp moment. And honestly even if I did know how to spell it, I never thought of correcting it.

Vote Count 1.10

Hopkirk (4) - beastcharizard, Twisted Advice, Katarina LeBlanc, MonkeyMan576
Bicephalous Bob (2) - PeregrineV, Antihero
Katarina LeBlanc (1) - Turkish Van
GreyICE (1) - Kublai Khan
Antihero (1) - Bicephalous Bob
Kublai Khan (1) - Lords of the Unreal
Lords of the Unreal (1) - MafiaSSK
jbomber732 (1) - GreyICE

Not Voting (6) - Metal Sonic, Guzame, burn_209, jbomber732, Hopkirk, notscience

18 alive, 10 to lynch. Deadline is set for 3 weeks from now, on April 21st, 2014 at 6:00 p.m., PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-04-21 18:00:00)

[jbomber732]

Ok I think you're mala, so the reason I said that I didn't want anyone to judge me for being newbie is that I thought it might influence their reads in some way. I voted for "blue" because for some reason I thought there was someone named blue in the game. Also, what is a mafia QT? In the game where I was mafia I don't remember a "QT" And sorry I didn't know that I couldn't reference other games. But what I said doesn't really matter at all does it?

[jbomber732]

Why are you writing in poetry?

[jbomber732]

This was your first post and your RVS. You voted them because it was the only person in the game you remember.

Then you quickly unvoted when you realized you slipped up and your reaction was pretty bad:

I didn't know which of the 2 hydras you were so I said that I thought you were mala of the two. (my computer doesn't let me view the sig)

I may have seen Bob's name starting with a b and thought it was blue, because honestly I don't know where I got that. I said I voted blue because I didn't like the color, because for the RVS don't people usually just find the crappiest reasons to vote and use them?

[jbomber732]

Oh and by remember meant that I had clicked on preview and couldn't see the list of people, so I literally forgot who was in the game. So I couldn't remember anyone and I thought for some reason there was a guy in the game named blue. Listen, I'm dumb, but not dumb enough to vote someone because of their name on this QT thing.

[jbomber732]

Sorry guys been busy with school so i need to catch up and read some. Ill answer some questions and post my thoughts in this post as i read a long as it helps me figure things out. Its a putting pen to paper kinda thing so sorry in advance for a long post.


In response to post 139 I mean I believe it...sort of. I think he was doing it to dig so that he could get discussion going but his rationalization of why he is doing it is crap, but I guess he cant exactly come out and say "Im voting for you to get more info" because then it defeats the purpose. He is just trying to make a case where no case is there to be made.

I like KK. He is my strongest town read at the moments. Dude is doing scumhunting like he did in post 157 and i liked his post on the hydras. The post on hydras seemed town to me because he was right, it is a distraction at some level. The fact he didnt want people to try to figure out who is the hydra instead of who is the scum is counter-scummy to me. I would think that the scum would want as much confusion and irrelevant discussion as possible. It felt genuine to me and him wanting the town to stay on track is a town move in my opinion.

I like how Beast is challenging reads and not just taking them for what they are worth like in 158 . I see a scum member being more compliant and yea yea'ing people when they offer their reads. His brashness and abrasive demeanor bugs me but that isnt something that you can make an alignment tell off of even though people love to do that.

Jafar and Iago I like what they are doing as well because of the scum hunting they are doing especially in 168 . How they moved on from the KK spat and agreed that KK is town is a town tell to me as well. I think a scum player would have pushed that a little harder and fabricated a case against KK for pushing irrelevant conversation.

Hopkirk Im either or on. While he is digging to get reads. the rationalizations for his openings to put pressure seem to come from a scum perspective. There is a difference between over exaggerating things to get a reaction (I would think this is a move a townie would make) from someone and just throwing away all common sense and trying to make a case where a case isnt there like he did against twisted. But at least he is trying to scumhunt which is a big deal. I dont see scum putting in that much effort and being that challenging. Consider me sitting on the fence with him until further notice.

jbomber seems fishy to me. Its like the guy doesnt have any substance to his reads and isnt giving reasonings behind his reads like in 103 150 and 217. In all honesty I dont think he has any. "Just saying KK seems towny to me" isnt enough for me and rubs me the wrong way. Its like he doesnt want to give a case because he knows it will be full of shit. Also I dont like the way he reacted basically all of page 10. Dare I say I sense a little bit of panic there? I have my eyes on you killer

I like Grey's posts on bomber so far especially 231 because well....it makes sense and I can see how bomber is acting like he is doing the pee dance without trying to make noise lol. I would like to see some more serious posting from him though.

Notty's dismissal of bomber being scum is irresponsible. I have seen scum use that same post on different sites many many times. I find it odd you were so quick to write him off like that.

Sorry for having a wall of text it just helps me keep my brain flowing

I know i don't have good reads. But I'm too lazy (sorry!) to go looking through posts and quoting what seems scummy to me. That doesn't mean I don't see it, it just means I'm too lazy to go find it. I do make my reads up of good content, I just don't quote it all.

[jbomber732]

If I'm always lazy what difference does my role be? I'm a lazy town and I'm proud. Just because I'm not quoting posts doesn't mean I'm not "Making shit happen"

[jbomber732]

I'm letting my opinion known. Its the same thing as making a large wall of text. Either way everyone knows my read on that person, and I save myself a lot of time.

[jbomber732]

Ok, even though he has only posted like twice, I've gotten extremely strong scumreads from them.

VOTE GUZAME

[jbomber732]

hmm lets see, me, you, Ronald McDonald, and a wild bunny.

[jbomber732]

VOTE: Beast

Um

Guys.

VOTE: beast

bomber, stop with that line of talking.

Seriously.

Guys, vote beast.

What?

[jbomber732]

What did you mean by "that line of talking"

[jbomber732]

I was joking. Are you trying to tell me you didn't see that was a joke?

[jbomber732]

wtf how does that give you ANY vibes whatsoever? I shall step by step show you my thought process.

1. yay time to RVS
2. skims first RVS posts because he thinks they have little meaning.
3. Clicks preview so he can use bold.
4. Remembers a guy named blue, and votes him.
5. Doesn't know if there actually is a guy named blue.
6. Too lazy to make a new tab and find out, so he watches a youtube video instead.
7. Comes back and submits vote. Sees there is no blue and changes vote to bob.

[jbomber732]

VOTE: pv

Why am I scum?

Why do you change your vote 5 times a day?

[jbomber732]

Are you blind? I quoted bob's post. where did I ask anti any question?

[jbomber732]

Are you blind? I quoted bob's post. where did I ask anti any question?

no, but it's still part of the "vote hopping is scummy" argument.

Actually, I was just merely wondering why bob can't stay with 1 vote. He literally changes every time he doesn't like someone's vote.

[jbomber732]

Not staying with 1 vote persay, but he switches every single time he doesn't get good vibes off someone. I never said it was bad, I was just asking him a question, and I didn't get an answer.

[jbomber732]

No, its just that I asked bob a question and then anti started grilling me about a question that wasnt even asked to him. I guess I was scrambling, but just because I don't want him to scumread me.

[jbomber732]

Um well thank you for educating me

[jbomber732]

what do you mean by people pleaser?

[jbomber732]

you're really self-conscious about how other people see you and really want to be seen as town

it's the kind of newb i was, and it's fairly common

Yeah I think its just my history on this site, I am always scumread as town so I do try to look as towny as possible

[jbomber732]

Now I know why mala might scumread me! I had a derp moment. I said that I had never used a QT before, which was an unintentional lie. I forgot that me and mala were in a QT and completely derped out. So, I do know what a QT is. I know you can make your own name on their, so please find me someone in this game who would have their QT name as blue ffs.

[jbomber732]

This is my getting good vibes off that post.

[jbomber732]

Expand please

Vote Count 1.14

Hopkirk (3) - beastcharizard, Twisted Advice, MonkeyMan576
Bicephalous Bob (2) - PeregrineV, Antihero
burn_209 (2) - Lords of the Unreal, MafiaSSK
jbomber732 (1) - burn_209
beastcharizard (1) - Katarina LeBlanc
Katarina LeBlanc (1) - Turkish Van
GreyICE (1) - Kublai Khan
Guzame (1) - jbomber732
MafiaSSK (1) - notscience
PeregrineV (1) - Bicephalous Bob
Kublai Khan (1) - GreyICE

Not Voting (3) - Metal Sonic, Guzame, Hopkirk

18 alive, 10 to lynch. Deadline is set for 3 weeks from now, on April 21st, 2014 at 6:00 p.m., PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-04-21 18:00:00)

[jbomber732]

um *gives twisted amnesia* wat are you talking about? How about..we...pretend...that...post...never..happened.

[jbomber732]

Please explain really hard. I'm so lost.

[jbomber732]

Yeah I think jbomber is town too.

[jbomber732]

Sorry, I'm throwing for the mafia and I'm gonna lynch the most obvious towns.

On a serious note where is your second like hydra partner, because most of your posts seem to be "Iago" at the bottom

[jbomber732]

So do I!

[jbomber732]

Why are people not voting to lynch Khan?

I really am curious.

PV - your list is the most confusing thing ever

Explain how 363 comes from scum.

Let's talk about my list. Who is in the wrong spot?

I should be in the town section.

[jbomber732]

Also, beast should not be town, I do not see where you got that read. I see him as null as he hasn't done enough to prove he is town.

[jbomber732]

I should be in the town section.

Um, why?

I am at the height of my intellectual superiority of a strip beside sundown.

[jbomber732]

Um, what?

I tried to give random words to make up a good sounding sentence

[jbomber732]

I will give my reads. Top is towniest down to lowest is scummiest. (i copied this from the list of players on page 1)

TOWN

jbomber732
Twisted Advice
Kublai Khan
Turkish Van
GreyICE
Hopkirk

LEANING TOWN

notscience
Antihero
MonkeyMan576
burn_209
NULL
Katarina LeBlanc
Metal Sonic
PeregrineV
Lords of the Unreal (Hydra of Natirasha and Kazekirimaru)
MafiaSSK

LEANING SCUM

beastcharizard
Bicephalous Bob

SCUM

Guzame

Let me explain some of the ones I deem important. Well most of the nulls are inactive lurkers so I can't get reads on them.(some nulls are active) I have a strong townread on kk that was strengthened by post 293. Burn came into the game with a nice wall that gave me a slight townread on him, and he's done nothing to really change that. Twisted only posts in big walls of texts that I skim so he must be town. /logic

[jbomber732]

Obviously you didn't read my whole post.

[jbomber732]

Guzame could just be some inactive fellow so giving them your top scumread, rather than waiting to see what they do next, seems out of place.
I realized i am not actually voting.
VOTE: Beast

He says that he read through 8+ pages of arguing and posts and he does not have 1 scum read? That made me very suspicious and I'm surprised it didn't make you.

[jbomber732]

Sometimes you just take the littlest things and seem (key word is seem) to try to exploit them on the poster. You are a very very slight scumread, but you're still in that category. Sorry if I'm wrong, but if there was a player who could tell who scum was, well this game would be worthless.

[jbomber732]

holy shit bob is at least on everyone's "leaning scum" list but NOBODY is voting him

sorry but i prefer to vote for my more solid scum reads

[jbomber732]

Has sonic actually been posting? or will he get replaced?

[jbomber732]

Don't judge

[jbomber732]

Needs some salt

[jbomber732]

Saturday post!

most useful post ever

[jbomber732]

Ok well if he has requested replacement I'll

UNVOTE

for now.

[jbomber732]

I'm looking for a new person to vote for, and here is what I've got.

PeregrineV: I just went back and looked at his list of reads and I realized he never put any scumreads. He just put a "better off dead' section, and in it was bascially afk people and bob. His reasoning for lynching bob was: "why not"

MafiaSSK: Saw that burn was being scumread by a few for his first post 8 pages in, and voted for him without saying anything about it.

Bob: this guy confuses me so much. He is...Snarky.. One second he's scummy the next he's towny the next he's nonchalant the next he's caring and it confuses me so much

[jbomber732]

The rush of posts! Too much content to read! I can't keep up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jbomber732]

notscience, current Bob read, and MafiaSSK take?

jbomber, why does Guzame replacing out invalidate your read?

--PA

Because he could just be a dumb scummy town, so I want to give his replacement a fresh start.

[jbomber732]

@beast sorry, but there are 18 people and I seem to be the only active one, so it annoyed me a bit.

@turkish I didn't think about that, but I'm still gonna have my vote on nobody.

[jbomber732]

I do have a scumread on bob where did I change that? And didn't I just say why I'm not voting somebody and that I'm still decidng who to play my vote on?

[jbomber732]

I'm not voting you off today. And its sorta in the middle for bob, but leaning scum. Those were just what I felt like would be good lynches today.

[jbomber732]

I am feeling nervous because I don't wanna mess up. Nobody ever townreads me so I try really hard to be perfect

[jbomber732]

I'm not trying to be new wtf. where did u get that idea? I'm trying to lynch the scum too if u havent noticed. I'm just also trying to look like a frikin town.

[jbomber732]

Oh and so everyone who scumreads me is on your town list. cool.

[jbomber732]

VOTE: BOB

I have other scumreads, but those obviously aren't going to happen today, so I may as well take advantage of this wagon.

[jbomber732]

Bob is at L-1 nobody hammer him until we get a claim from him.

[jbomber732]

Bob: this guy confuses me so much. He is...Snarky.. One second he's scummy the next he's towny the next he's nonchalant the next he's caring and it confuses me so much


Just so I get your Bob stance, are you for/against a Bob lynch, and are you liking/not liking my given Bob stance and/or the reason for my gvien Bob stance?

hmm did you not see the post where I vote for him? Does that answer your question?

@grey why does that give you an instant scumread? He seems scum but I woudln't vote for him for that 1 post.

[jbomber732]

Well since I did majorly scumread guzame, I guess you're right and I should'nt give him a fair chance. Plus bob makes me laugh especially with his horrible avitars, so I'll keep him around.

VOTE: MNEUIMNIC

[jbomber732]

THIS IS SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[jbomber732]

I voted her at one point. The ramblings is just her personality. It is a null tell until I learn otherwise. She is really obvious as town later in games most of the time though. It feels like she is trying to adopt ns's style of play.

VOTE: mnemonic

Sheeping town reads.

You just indirectly called me a townread

[jbomber732]

@grey: I just can't see where you get this scumread on KK. He proves valid points, is helpful, genuine, and he was right when he said that it would be easier for scum to hop onto the wagon.

[jbomber732]

Hmm I'll have to re-read his posts because you bring up some points i never realized

[jbomber732]

One: no clue but it is scummy

two: bob is funny, and I'd rather keep someone amusing in the game than you.

[jbomber732]

Ok so he's lynched. Hopefully he flips scum and we can have a good night of sleep.

[jbomber732]

I was at the middle of the wagon!

[jbomber732]

Dude, your name is purple.

I can't trust that at all.

looks blue to me

Vote Count 1.25

mnemonicdevice (10) - GreyICE, Turkish Van, jbomber732, Antihero, Lords of the Unreal, beastcharizard, MonkeyMan576, MafiaSSK, Hopkirk, Twisted Advice

Bicephalous Bob (3) - PeregrineV, mnemonicdevice, Katarina LeBlanc
jbomber732 (1) - burn_209
GreyICE (1) - Kublai Khan
PeregrineV (1) - Bicephalous Bob
Kublai Khan (1) - Metal Sonic

Not Voting (1) - notscience

18 alive, 10 to lynch. Deadline is set for 3 weeks from now, on April 21st, 2014 at 6:00 p.m., PST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-04-21 18:00:00)

Turkish Van's penguin_alien head is V/LA through April 9th.

[jbomber732]

No KK's name looks blue.. not purple

[jbomber732]

Mnem's latest posts kinda smell like a scum lynch!

aren't u sposed to be anonymous?

[jbomber732]

Ugh. When I flip town, kill Bob. If I don't flip town, kill bob. THANKS.

Ok I am 99% sure he flips mafia now because of this line.

[jbomber732]

EZ pz lemon squeezy

VOTE BOB

[jbomber732]

Beast, i voted for bob because i scum read him. And clearly you know that because you read my posts on day 1 right?

Also, me and hop are both town. We're the wrong people to be wagoning. Kk is town too. Im still null on Katrina though.

[jbomber732]

Beast i have absolutely nothing to back it up with! Isn't that just great. But luckily my gut reads have been proven to be correct sometimes up to 10% of the time.

[jbomber732]

ok first of all, sorry for inactivity, im on vacation. So one of my games recently finished, and I really think you should go look at it. (It's the Russian roulette one). I think you'll see similarity in my play. i try to be exemely honest and never lie, so i say exactly what i do. the people in that game saw me for the town i was, but for some reason you guys scum read me for it. Like what mafia would tell the town, "I don't read the posts, i skim them" (which i do, i skim the ones that dont have my name in them) Also i town read khan and i refuse to vote for him. The read is half genuine and half "he posts large walls of text" bob is mafia or sk i dont care which but he must die

[jbomber732]

I scum read mafia ssk, bob (duh) and (very lightly) monkey man

Meanwhile khan, me, hop, and katarina are all town, so unvote off of them please.

[jbomber732]

Khan is a vibe, but hop plays very similarly to my town game (this game) so he is most likely town. Through the whole game i never got scum vibes on hin

[jbomber732]

In case you didn't see, kk just helpfully pointed out the masons for us!

[jbomber732]

Before I get raged at i was (sort of) joking. Also, what's everyone's takes on the two players who aren't being discussed. Burn and science

[jbomber732]

Lololol. I knew i shouldn't have posted that. But i still scum read mafia ssk so why would i even think he was mason? I just found it amusing how kk made it look like that. Oh and the good thing that came from that was twisted just proved his town worth to us. He tries to make excuse for mason like actions. Mafia wouldn't do that.

[jbomber732]

Ok, so i havent had a chance to post recently so here is all recent thoughts. First of all

UNVOTE

I see your arguments of bob not being group scum, so I think he is sk because he really scum reads to me. I am going to be placing my vote on either ssk or monkey. Also, twisted is the most obvious town in this game right now besides maybe anti, so why r u guys scum reading him?

[jbomber732]

But TV many people said that they thought bob was sk but they didn't vote him, so for some reason i thought we were aiming for mafia today, not sk.

VOTE BOB

[jbomber732]

monkey must i give a reason for a vote that I've explained so many times..?

And to everyone who is voting twisted, UNVOTE HE IS THE TOWNIEST ONE HERE!

[jbomber732]

No its not a long post scenario. he is so towny! Every post he does is a town tell. When I have time ill quote some stuff for u impatient chicken nuggets

[jbomber732]

I have a good townread on hop and twisted. Twisted is just obvious town, and hop is employing my play style as town so therefore he must be town too. /logic and burn it was a joke actually, and I thought everyone else would see it. I mean, i highly highly doubt those two are masons, since ssk is one of my large scum reads.

[jbomber732]

Because he plays like i do as town so wouldn't that generally mean we're both town? Plus he gives me good vibes

[jbomber732]

What does ISO stand for

[jbomber732]

Also metal, i think it'd help if you read the first 20 pages. Then I might take your reads into consideration. (Not that I've even seen any good reads)

[jbomber732]

Happy late birthday beast!

[jbomber732]

TV told me we wanted to kill the ks today but apparently we dont so

UNVOTE

VOTE MAFIA SSK

[jbomber732]

Stupid typo i meant to say sk not ks.

[jbomber732]

Why are the 3 major wagons all on town? We should be lynching mafia ssk or monkey.

[jbomber732]

I'm officially home from vacation so my activity will rise and I'll post more

[jbomber732]

His recent posts read town to me.

[jbomber732]

Elaboration: as mafia why would he just not care so much? he'd only have 1 parter left and I think if he was mafia he'd be more likely to make some large excuse and attempt to care.

[jbomber732]

wat?

[jbomber732]

I'd like to hear everyones opinion on burn. I feel like hes pretty town, but he posts not very often and some of his posts seem a bit artificial.

[jbomber732]

Really? You are my strongest townread. I'd actually say hes one of my lowest townreads. (still a townread though)

Vote Count 2.13

Kublai Khan (3) - Metal Sonic, Antihero, Lords of the Unreal
MafiaSSK (3) - jbomber732, Twisted Advice, Hopkirk
MonkeyMan576 (2) - Kublai Khan, Katarina LeBlanc
notscience (2) - Bicephalous Bob. Turkish Van
Hopkirk (1) - beastcharizard
jbomber732 (1) - MonkeyMan576
Twisted Advice (1) - MafiaSSK

Not Voting (2) - notscience, burn_209

15 alive, 8 to lynch.

Deadline is May 4th, 3:20 PM EST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-05-04 15:20:00)

[jbomber732]

bomber, why are you buddying up to twisted? Also, a little earlier you said Anti was the only one who might be more town than Twisted in your mind. What made you think Twisted is town more than Anti?

They're still both the 2 obvtown of the gameif you ask me, but the way twisted has been reacting to being under the pressure of a possible wagon reads 100% town to me, but anti is still 100% town, so I guess I phrased that other post wrong, they're both my top towniest read.

[jbomber732]

Well not 100% town, I don't wanna sound like I know they're town, but if I had to bet on 2 townies here, I'd put my money on those two.

[jbomber732]

Um actually I was serious...What was wrong with my posts?

[jbomber732]

Never in all of my mafia games on this site have I had an answer to that question besides my gut and vibes. You're not getting anything else so don't ask

[jbomber732]

At least I'm town!!1!!1!!111!!!!11111!!1!11!

[jbomber732]

VOTE MONKEY

[jbomber732]

im not unvoting from monkey. Hop is not scum for not putting vote in front of it. What kind of dumb reason is that..

[jbomber732]

After what happened with guzame, I think I'll keep my vote on AJ cuz he predescor was scum.

[jbomber732]

Aj needs

To claim

So we can hammer him

Talking in poetry

Is very fun

[jbomber732]

Ya but dont worry hes scum still.

[jbomber732]

no cuz ssk is 1 mafia and monkey/lords/sonic is the other. So I voted monkey today since he was the easiest wagon to hop onto

[jbomber732]

The real issue is AJ's absence.

[jbomber732]

What are we supposed to do if he comes out looking towny? I've never been in this situation. Do we ignore the OP's scuminess? or do we unvote, but keep a close eye on him? Do we just lynch him cuz the OP was scum?

[jbomber732]

Well that is based on your reads. But seriously, pretend you scumread monkey. Now answer my question.

Vote Count 2.20

Aj The Epic (6) - Kublai Khan, Katarina LeBlanc, notscience, Lords of the Unreal, jbomber732, Hopkirk
Hopkirk (5) - beastcharizard, Antihero, Twisted Advice, Bicephalous Bob, Metal Sonic
jbomber732 (1) - Aj The Epic
Metal Sonic (1) - MafiaSSK

Not Voting (2) - burn_209, Turkish Van

15 alive, 8 to lynch.

Deadline is May 4th, 3:20 PM EST.

Countdown:
(expired on 2014-05-04 15:20:00)

[jbomber732]

You can't do a complete reset. Forgetting about the scumminess of replaced players is, in my opinion, one of the biggest collective mistakes we make as a community. You can give a little leeway, but you shouldn't forget.

Iago

Ok, thanks for answering my question, but would it be advisable to lynch AJ if he claims vanilla no matter the circumstances or do we give him some time?

[jbomber732]

A few things to say about Burn's post. 1. why is he still pushing on me when he has no support or chance of a wagon happening?
2. I feel like burn wanted to come back with a large wall, so he basically went back and found the most random things to criticize.

On the other hand I don't scum read mafia ssk because hes a "lurky one liner" I scum read him because i looked and he has like 8 posts in this game and they've all basically been when his name comes up. It's one thing to be inactive and come back and post, but to post right when you are the subject reads scum to me.

I haven't given a reads list in a while so...Town is top, scum is bottom

TOWN

Antihero
Twisted
Hopkirk
Turkishvan

SLIGHTLY TOWN

Beastcharizard
Notscience
KK

NULL LEANING TOWN

Katarina

NULL LEANING SCUM

Metal
Burn

SLIGHTLY SCUM

Lords

SCUM

Ssk
AJ
Bob

[jbomber732]

Explanation of things that may stand out.

KK: he was in the full town! but some of his post are SO artificial either he doesn't realize it or hes purposely overdoing it.

TV: Not a lot of talk has really gone on about them but i think we all agree theyre town.

Metal: he has his scum moments and his town moments, but as of now I'd say he is null leaning scum. His absence of the first half of the game has lessened the time ive had to do my massive powerful jbomber read.

[jbomber732]

Hop matches my playstyle at the beginning of the game and in my other finished games as town.

Meanwhile, NS is town because as a previously said, I would expect a mafia version of NS to actually try and make some excuse, so by not trying, I think that defines him as lazy town. I could be wrong on both of these reads, but its what I think.

[jbomber732]

The only difference in his play is that he's become more serious, but I became more serious too...I think he's town. And the part about NS from your post made absolutely no sense.

[jbomber732]

1. I was telling the truth with the quote AJ

2. That was an issue because I was bored

3. Everyone in the game knows I don't have reasons for reads. Plus they all knew why I stood where i did on most of them. Did you not see the next post?

[jbomber732]

Claim on L-2? And I'm not hammering on hop so you'll need someone else to do it.

[jbomber732]

I think it was a joke judging by the fact that the next post was him trying to convince you he was town.

[jbomber732]

WTF DUDE IT WAS A JOKE. IF HE FLIPS TOWN IM GONNA BE ANGRY. IF HE FLIPS PR IM GONNA BE SO PISSED

[jbomber732]

It was one that you should have at least acknowledged.. *facepalm*

[jbomber732]

You do realize that Katrina didnt hammer, lords of the unreal did..........

[jbomber732]

Sorry what I meant to say was you do realize that Metal didn't hammer, he brought it to L+1

[jbomber732]

Wow so bob was vanilla... Anyways i have a broken arm now, so typing is slow and tedious, so i will only make small posts. What are the replacements opinions so far?

[jbomber732]

Vote mafia ssk

This is the scummiest of the too imo. if a big bw gets on lords, ill join it but for now this is my vote.

[jbomber732]

what is a spite vote

[jbomber732]

what is a spite vote

[jbomber732]

die ssk

[jbomber732]

hammer on the scum

[jbomber732]

nowhere near finished reading. chillax a bit on the votes for a day or so

^Scum.

I actually sorta agree. However, there is the fact that burn was pretty towny. I don't know whether we should forget about this or not..

[jbomber732]

Well I wouldn't know because ive never replaced into a game in this situation, but it does read scum to me.

[jbomber732]

u shud hammer

[jbomber732]

UNVOTE

ur persuasion skills convinced me

[jbomber732]

I have 1 arm so I type short and scummy xD Oh and if you got bad vibes on the earlier posts, (the conversation with twisted, me unvoting...) that wuz bcuz i was bored and was acting scummy deliberately.

VOTE SSK

I disagree, because my basis is that ssk lurked and only posted when he was mentioned. That reads scum to me!

[jbomber732]

OMGUS much? When did you once say you had a major scumread on me?

[jbomber732]

Wouldn't that also be violating the rules of this website

[jbomber732]

What about katrina who actually hammereD?

[jbomber732]

What do you mean? you said l-1 and then she voted

[jbomber732]

lolz why did they both revote..

[jbomber732]

*insert towny comment here*

[jbomber732]

I don't...

[jbomber732]

This game is moving so slow all of the sudden..

[jbomber732]

wats a parrot

[jbomber732]

TV is town bro..

[jbomber732]

1. TV is town

2. Why does he need to claim?

3. We should probably be looking for any breadcrumbs that metal left. He's smart enough to have left some I think.

[jbomber732]

erm bro refers to the fact that you're a boy (probably) and TV is town Also, KK you can vote him but he shudnt claim so early..

[jbomber732]

I'm not saying that I don't think he's scum but really? A claim this early?

[jbomber732]

im backkkkkkkkk

[jbomber732]

I am not liking cho and Lem right now. TV is still town, and anti is still town. Oh and jbomb is still town

[jbomber732]

Prod dodge?

[jbomber732]

I will do a reads list tomorrow when I am not tired, lazy and bored.

[jbomber732]

I will proceed to do a read's list.

Titus - Some posts give me town feels some confuse me. Replaced into town slot so I still think shes town. - slightly towny

Twisted - My position has no changed - Still 100% town

(skips antihero)

Turkish Van- I had this slot as an extremely towny slot, but after the arguments that have been brought up, I still consider this slot town, but less so - towny

Muffin - He comes up towny to me, nothing special here - town

Lem - He replaced into a scum slot, and he isn't giving me any good vibes - scummy

KK - He's either stupid town or sk. I don't see him with any partners - Null/Towny

Cho- Meh...I'd like to just say she's scum but some posts say otherwise - slightly scummy

I probably forgot someone

[jbomber732]

I just make reads based on the vibes people give me, Titus. You can call it scummy or stupid, but thats how I read.

[jbomber732]

Granted, I do use SOME reasoning, but I do make reads from the gut too.

[jbomber732]

Everyone stopped trying to have conversations with me a while ago

[jbomber732]

I want to vote lem but will you guys consider me scum for hopping on an easy wagon?

[jbomber732]

VOTE LEM

[jbomber732]

I am going to look into Titus and Burn/muffin today. I do not at all think TV is mafia, or sk.

[jbomber732]

The thing is, for the d1 wagon on guzame's replacement, I don't think we should overlook ANYONE. Because no matter how well it could have been disguised, I think the mafia may have wanted to get on the wagon early, instead of hopping on at the end. (Just an idea, dont take it as a fact) Everyone is looking at my vote on mnemonic suspiciously, but I voted so late because I was confused. As I would go on to ask d2 or d3 (I forget) I asked whether we should keep old reads on a replacement intact, or if we start fresh. Since on d1, I didn't know what I should do, I decided to throw away my large guzame scumread, and give his replacment a fresh start. Now the obvious question here is, "but mnemioc said that line that started a huge wagon on him, isn't that your reason of voting for him?" Well this is like my third game, and how am I supposed to know that its considered scummy to forgive the town for their replacement's actions? So, I took caution before hopping onto the wagon unlike some people who took this as a nice oppurtunity to hop right on. In the end, I learned that it was scummy to say that, and I placed my vote partly because of that reason, but I think my "bigger" reason was my humongous scumread on guzame.

[jbomber732]

PROD DODGED!

[jbomber732]

titus i wanna omgus u so bad for playing so reckless...

[jbomber732]

Here's what your whole basis of this is.

1. There was a vote on a scum day 1, wow a scum must have bussed!

2. I dodged a prod..OMG HES SCUM

3. You aren't even listening to other people's opinion. And no I wont vote you because there are better options right now

[jbomber732]

Ok first of all, I was prodded, so I dodged it. Then you posted, so I naturally responded..As I said before my suspects are muffin and KK.

[jbomber732]

LOL SORRY I WAS ON VACATION FOR 5 DAYS TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THIS.

[jbomber732]

Too tired to do anything atm