Cheesefan wrote:Vote:Mole
You should know I dislike unexplained votes
I don't like the "IH is scum!!1" thing one bit, and find you more suspicious than Twito for jumping on it.pevergreen wrote:Vote: IH
Why? Cause he is scum
The Kangaroo is always right.
Why?IH wrote:unvote, vote:Raging Rabbit
= | I don't like your logic.
Not if you're town and helpful, no. The primary intention of the FOS was getting you to stop, which I'm glad you did, though you are a bit scummy for pushing that logic enough to actually make people follow you.You are absolutely right there is no way I would be spamming the thread if I were to be town.
Unvote
Vote: RR
IH is scum removed from sig. We can lynch him later on, he is not that annoying.
Disagree? Explain why.RR, what type of logic is that...
But Twito's the spammer king (10 posts so far), and did a pretty good job of distracting the town. It was mostly to get him to stop, as I said....and why only Twito, I know some people who were spamming just as much.
You're too new to be part of that in joke, so I didn't like how you joined the IH wagon. The fact that I'm also a noob is irrelevant, I'm not part of that in joke either.pevergreen wrote:You calling me new when I signed up before you.... confused.
It's certainly possible you were just trying an MS style joke vote, but that vote still smells a little fishy and as I said you're better than a random vote for my money.pevergreen wrote:I get on the IH/Twito thing because its the same at my other mafia site. The two main players vote each other first in every game. It's funny.
It is a bit suspicious since you pushed it hard enough for people to start following you (DP's point, basically), but I mostly figured it was just threatning enough to get you to stop. It's not like a page 3 FOS is that big a deal.Twito wrote:I don't accept your explanation for the FOS. FOS means Finger of Suspicion and I don't see how me spamming is suspicious meaning that you ain't really hunting scum.
True. You also have no real way to defend yourself other than saying it's a joke now that I think of it, you I'll concede the point.Twito wrote:DP's explanation for his vote however makes sence if he is seeing me and IH triade for the first time
Twito wrote:I dislike with logic behind that vote aswell.
It is growing rather uncomfortably fast, yes.Twito wrote:But your wagon is idd growing so nice and fast that I'm getting suspicious about it.
Try to keep our other games out of this one, please. I promise to try as well.Twito wrote:Then again you are gonna tell me I can't possibly be suspicious of people joining wagon in which I'm already in but that's just bullshit.
Err, no. I'm voting him for jumping on what looked liked the start of a wagon, and he doesn't have the "It's a joke!" excuse since he isn't a part of that joke.ac1983fan wrote:Unvote
fos:RR
the way u are acting, it is like you are scum. you are trying to get someone lynched for trying to fit in???
I'd explain the difference since I think it's very distinct, but don't feel too much like quoting other games either. Until we know each other's alignment there it's also not too useful to draw information from that game, IMO.Twito wrote:We are not starting fresh from 0 info. I have played with plenty of people here before and I'm not ignoring the information that provides me with. It's not unfair information coz everyone here is able to read past games if they wish.
I'm however not going to quote ongoing games or something stupid like that, don't worry.
Twito wrote:I'm not referring to only you in particular. You taking this so personally is rising my scumwibes about you again.
What's this, then?Twito wrote:Then again you are gonna tell me I can't possibly be suspicious of people joining wagon in which I'm already in but that's just bullshit.
I'd really like you to show me how I'm bullying Twito, otherwise I'm gonna count this as another no-logic vote. I don't think it's even possible to actually be bullied through the interent, unless you have a real weak character and I assure you Twito's very stubborn. Also, I'm sure he doens't want you as his bodyguard.BM wrote:ffs, im getting damn sick of these stupid arguments between Raging Rabbit and Twito. Im sure that one oif them is Mafia-possibly both, in opposing groups. I'm going to Unvote, Vote: Raging Rabbit, because i generally dislike the way he almost bullies Twito.
I don't hate you, either. I also really don't fancy the idea of being your arch nemesis or something, so I'm hoping we'll never resort to that.Twito wrote:I'm actually just playing mafia which doesn't really have anything to do with personal feelings. I'm not pissed off at you, don't worry. I will only lynch you if I think you are scummy.
I really don't get why you'd make such a post without unvoting me yourself.IH wrote:unvote, vote:BM
Quit wagoning you shameless wagoner!
Also you others, FOS:Pever, Keysmath
Stop it! You shouldn't jump on a wagon that far advanced when we're barely out of the random stage!
I'm voting him for jumping on your wagon that made it to like 4 or 5 votes without any reason. Your other wagoners have the excuse of it being a joke, pevergreen doesn't. If there's anything wrong with this logic, I'd love for you to explain just what.IH wrote:@RR:I didn't like your logic of putting a vote on someone for trying to be in the joke, but not being there. How is that even... better than a random vote vote?
Huh? That's like, 7th vote purely for being annoyed with me and Twito? Nowblahgo wrote: Unvote vote:RR
Let us lynch of one these two. I'm tired of people arguing about stupid things.
Only you did unvote, and I'm an idiot. Sorry.Raging Rabbit wrote:I really don't get why you'd make such a post without unvoting me yourself.IH wrote:unvote, vote:BM
Quit wagoning you shameless wagoner!
Also you others, FOS:Pever, Keysmath
Stop it! You shouldn't jump on a wagon that far advanced when we're barely out of the random stage!
I don't care what your record is, coincidences happen. In your only other game I'm aware of, your logic sucks on a regualr basis. If you really are pro town, You should really start thinking more before coming out with these far fetched theories.BM wrote:useless at catching scum?
so far, on this site, i have been proven right about 1/2 of my Mafia suspicions. Pretty solid record for someone who's play-style seems beneath contempt....
You can point out suspicons and faulty logic without voting, you know.BM wrote:anyway, RR, if you think im Mafia vote for me. If you dont, dont vote for me.
I'm not saying you're suspicious for voting me alone, I'm saying your suspicious for putting me on 7 vote with very shaky logic.BM wrote:Dont just threaten to OMGUS me, for no reason other than that i voted for you.
BM wrote:My vote stands because i still think ur the scummiest person here
We only share one other game, and you're not voting me there.BM wrote:(although that image is held through several games i share with you)
We're both equally guilty of that, and it wasn't much of a scrap either.Twito wrote:Then again getting into a scrap with Twito makes sence.
I'd like to nominate this for most useless post of the game so far and that's saying a lot.MoS wrote:Dice Roll:
Original Roll String: 1d21
1 21-Sided Dice Results: 16
Adaptation is a very important thing, you should give it a try sometime.MoS wrote:Umm, because it's my first post? Duh. 5 pages isn't very far, and I open 99% of my games with the dice roll, unless I'm replacing into a game. I'm not about to change that any time soon.
I don't suspect the blahgo wagoners thus far. He's wagon makes a lot more sense than my yet-to-be-explained one imo, and he isn't in any real danger of a lynch atm. Voting him seems a better tactic than standing around whistling...IH wrote:Alright you wagoners, you're doing it again! You jump off of RR and jump onto Blahgo! Quit following two or three peoples logic.
Scum are more prone to play useless townies, nay? Also, uselessness should always be somewhat suspected imo, since it helps get people to stop being useless.IH wrote:RR, please explain how something useless is scummy. TWITO IS USELESS, and he's not speed lynched!
I see people jumping off an unexplained wagon and moving to a far better one. Not sure what's wrong with that.Twito wrote:I didn't vote blahgo because I wanted to see how the wagon would develope. I finds it's developing scummy. I'll stick to RR as I see scum trying to replace RR wagon with blahgo wagon. I'm not yet ready to name people who would be this scum on blahgo wagon nor ignoring the option of blahgo actually being scum. His wagon does include RR tho.
Random vote on page 5 = useless and scummy, 7th vote for bad reason = useless and way scummier. I rest my case.Twito wrote:I find people jumping on MoS for his dice roll scummy. Especially if they keep pushing after explanation. MoS where do you find those always so sweet dice rolls I used to use them and had the page in my favourites but lost and I'd like to use them again. Btw RR is one of those people jumping on MoS coz of this but not voting. I believe this to be based on blahgo wagon being hotter.
I think your playstyle is to generally ignore logic and analyze wagon advancements instead. I'm getting the feeling that whether I say I suspect X for reasons that make sense or because god told me to, you'd register it in the same exact way - "RR suspecting X", which you later use to figure out who's scum with mostly mathematical reasoning. I don't think it's a very wise way to play (I still <3 you, though).Twito wrote:I'm sure you understand why I'm keeping my vote on RR.
I hate to disagree with you again, but I really dislike that logic. You almost sound like BM.Twito wrote:My scumdar in last 10 games where I've been lynching people has been 100% correct so I really trust it.
Than they're stupid and bad for the town.IH wrote:RR, they don't provide reasons or anything. It's just WAGONWAGONWAGON. They get over 3 votes, and the wagoners attack.
Fritz is special. Special in a bad-for-the-town-y way, but still.IH wrote:Like Fritz.
I misunderstood you, then. I figure the blorajkag wagoners just agree that 7th vote for no good reason is very scummy, and agreeing with good logic isn't a scummy thing to do unless you overdo it, which they aren't since it's still early day 1.IH wrote:Errr, that's what I was saying. You said that the blorzspjaf(bloargh) wagoners weren't too bad, because they were wagoning for a good reason (which is apparently undivulged) and your wagon was worse.
I really don't think he did, his logic's fine as far as I'm concerned.IH wrote:.....YOU JUST LURKED AND HOPPED BANDWAGONS WITH LITTLE JUSTIFICATION!
unvote, vote:Zarvok
It sorta was. The next best thing at that time, at least.IH wrote:1.There wasn't really a wagon.
Personally I don't, just saying you did have a bit of a wagon there.IH wrote:2.That was a random vote. Do you consider this scummy?
His logic sucked more than any of theirs, and that's saying a lot. Also, higher number of vote=scummier.IH wrote:3.How is he more scummy than the three people who said it before him?
You have no idea how much I've been arguing with unexplained wagoning recently, I just feel that isn't the case here.IH wrote:I feel like you're doing the same thing as him. Hopping onto a bandwagon. In case you haven't been able to tell, I've been TRYING to go after you guys for just about this whole game about just bandwagoning. Mostly for the new people, because this 21 player game seems loaded down to the core with them....
:goodposting: (was posted simultaneously with mine)Zavrok wrote:1) This is possibly true, but there were a bunch of people voting IH. A few random "IH IS SCUM!!!" votes at the beginning appear to be something to expect around here, but it still concerns me after the first few, no need to bandwagon when there are other equally good random votes
2) He was still random voting on page 3? After he had already randomvoted once? He himself pointed out it was a bandwagon vote.
3) The more votes on a wagon, the more scummy the next vote seems. The first vote isn't a wagon at all, it doesn't seem particularly scummy, but as a wagon gets bigger, the potential to jump on it for a quick lynch exists.
In summary: it's not enough to reason about each individual post, it's the pattern of hopping from bandwagon to bandwagon that seems concerning. My vote is different than his, since I provide a thought out and reasoned justification for it based on his voting pattern, whereas his votes come with no explanation whatsoever. These two things seem very different to me...
blahgo is. You should generally decide that on your own, though...MoS wrote:Why don't you tell me who is acting scummy instead of attacking people over a freaking dice roll.
The problem isn't your reason for random voting, the problem is you random votedMoS wrote:This is exactly why I DO use the dice roll, because I am sick and tired of people calling me scum for making a random vote that's based off anything, even if I just pointed at a name and typed it up. The dice function is completely random, so there is no indication of alignment when the vote is cast.
If you just didn't have the time but wanted to let us know you were in the game, why random vote intead of just posting "I'm here, will read when I have the time"?MoS wrote: I hadn't even read the thread yet.
I don't much care for these "whose got the bigger dick" arguments. There's been tons if important stuff going on in those pages, and saying otherwise without even bothering to read them is just stupid.MoS wrote:Uh, who cares? 7 games isn't all that much. I've played in nearly 100 on mafiascum alone, if you count ongoing games. Clearly you haven't had a lot of experience with mafia if you think anything important is going to happen in the first 5 pages.
That's quite a twisted way to look on things. TheMoS wrote: If anything, you should be thanking me for somehow sparking discussion with a random vote instead of FOSing me for it.
I did, actually:Also, I don't believe you ever answered my question. Why do you think Useless=Scummy? 1 useless action.
Raging Rabbit wrote:Scum are more prone to play useless townies, nay? Also, uselessness should always be somewhat suspected imo, since it helps get people to stop being useless.
<3Twito wrote:Why do you encourage him to talk MORE?
My take - the FOS was a bit OMGUSy and over the edge, otherwise it wans't that scummy.Zarvok wrote:Can I ask why? I'm just curious. It seems to me that IH made some unfounded accusations and I showed how he was mistaken. I guess my tone was a little extreme and the "crap logic" bit was over the top - was that it?
I honestly like your playstyle.IH wrote:So the scum will get fed up with my badgering and nagging and give up. Duh.
So you're claiming mafia inblahgo wrote:I've been scum refers to being scum in mafia games. I am scum refers to how I act in real life, and playstyle/lifestyle.
I really don't think anyone would be stupid enough to actually claim mafia.scotmany12 wrote:I'm actually set on my blahgo post. I really don't like what he is trying to say. In my eyes he admitted to being scum and is now trying to create a bullshit reason why he said that. And since I was second to vote for him I don't think I count for his band wagoning.
IH wrote:....unvote, Vote:Raging Rabbit
Are you kidding me? He didn't just claim he was mafia in real life. He expressed in really butchered English that he plays mafia in REAL LIFE. He's not sure what is considered suspicious on forum mafia and real life mafia.
Blahgo that was also just a joke.
I believe there was some kind of point about him not acting like that as scum in RL mafia or somethin' like that, and you seemed to agree in your last post.IH wrote:Errr, I never saw a defence. I saw him taking my joke about annoying the mafia into confessing as truth.
Regardless, you still haven't chosen to share with us who do you cosider suspicious, nor have you given any indication of reading the first 5 pages. Any reson for that?MoS wrote:I merely asked that in response to the claim that several people were acting scummy. I find it hard to believe that there can be so many true suspects that early in the game, so I pushed him to back up his claim. Note that he has yet to respond to that part of my post.
Random voting early in the game is a good way to get some discussion going, since it can lead to jokewagons and stuff. There's also nothing better to do. Random votes on page 5 are completely and utterly useless, and while I realize you were trying to keep with tradition you really should've placed your vote on someone you actually consider suspicious right now.MoS wrote:I'm merely keeping with tradition . I agree that it was completely useless. In fact, I'll take it one step further and assert that random voting in and of itself is completely useless, regardless of when it happens. However, nearly everyone does it. Does that mean we are all scum?
Aren't you inclined to say a bit more than that when entering the game at page 5, though?MoS wrote:Because I always open games with a dice roll vote, and it serves the same purpose as saying that I'm here, because posting at all says I'm here.
Sneaky bastard.MoS wrote:Please fine-tune your sarcasm-meter. It was subtle, I know.
While I agree it definitely wasn't a good idea, I also agree it wasn't all that suspicious. I'm mostly trying to make MoS acknowledge his mistake or possibly give something up in the argument, though I'll keep my eye on him in the future.Fircoal wrote:Unvote: Mos.
I see that you really think it was ok to open up with a random vote on the 5th page, though this is a game of mafia and not a discussion on whether or not that it is a good idea. So, I will drop my vote off of you.
I'm pushing for a blahgo lynch because he put me on seven votes make us shut up. I answered his defence with a joke because it wasn't any good anyways.Twito wrote:...and then again it looks like he himself is pushing for Blahgo lynch as a joke at the same time?
<3 Twito's smile.<3 RR's humor (Rather the humor than just the normal RR ya know)
Well, that's just too bad. You're sorta lazy.Mastermind of Sin wrote:I hardly have time to find someone suspicious when the game is being cluttered by pointless attacks on me.Raging Rabbit wrote:Regardless, you still haven't chosen to share with us who do you cosider suspicious, nor have you given any indication of reading the first 5 pages. Any reson for that?MoS wrote:I merely asked that in response to the claim that several people were acting scummy. I find it hard to believe that there can be so many true suspects that early in the game, so I pushed him to back up his claim. Note that he has yet to respond to that part of my post.
I already explained that I highly doubted anyone was going to do something truly voteworthy in a mere 5 pages, and if they had, I could justRandom voting early in the game is a good way to get some discussion going, since it can lead to jokewagons and stuff. There's also nothing better to do. Random votes on page 5 are completely and utterly useless, and while I realize you were trying to keep with tradition you really should've placed your vote on someone you actually consider suspicious right now.MoS wrote:I'm merely keeping with tradition . I agree that it was completely useless. In fact, I'll take it one step further and assert that random voting in and of itself is completely useless, regardless of when it happens. However, nearly everyone does it. Does that mean we are all scum?change my vote. Fascinating concept, I know.
Nope.Aren't you inclined to say a bit more than that when entering the game at page 5, though?MoS wrote:Because I always open games with a dice roll vote, and it serves the same purpose as saying that I'm here, because posting at all says I'm here.
Pointless? How so? It's not like I'm pushing for your lynch or anything, I'm just pointing out a play I consider useless.MoS wrote:I'm starting to get the feeling that you are purposely trying to get the game off track, first by your pointless attack on me
MoS wrote:then with these more recent posts that have nothing to do with this game at all.
???Raging Rabbit wrote:Now lets get back to actually playing the game.
BINGO.You have posted more distracting posts since then, so you clearly weren't sincere.
Also, FoS: Fircoal, Cheesefan They are also both guilty of this.
I just found out by sucking hard on MMM: Haiku that my poetic skilz are mostly limited to Hebrew, but otherwise I'd kick your ass.Twito wrote:Rampaging Rabbit,
lynching him will be a habit,
you know you want it to stab it,
oh the horrible wabbit,
we need a destruction kit,
to demolish the raging rabbit,
the raging piece of shit,
in this thread he doesn't fit,
get rid of that chit.