Mafia 49: SpeedyKQ's Big New York Game - Game over!

[Mariyta]

Why are you pushing for a quick lynch on Max, Buddy?

[Mariyta]

vote: vikingfan

I want to revive this... I would have been on it yesterday if I had been paying more attention.

Why are you voting viking? Sorry, I came in during the night and I had 28 pages of stuff to read through.

[Mariyta]

Check post #666 for a summary of vikingfan's d1 and d2. He explained his actions a few posts later.

Creepy!!!! Going to look at the post now.

[Mariyta]

Yeah... that's pretty bad stuff there.

FOS: vikingfan

[Mariyta]

FOS: Mariyta

Ok.....

[Mariyta]

I'm confused as to what just happened.

[Mariyta]

Forgive me for not wanting to read through a bunch of crap to get to what you want me to see. Buddy knew where the post was, and was nice enough to tell me. And for your information, I don't like to vote people too much without hearing what they have to say first, unless I have a good reason. Hence, the FOS. If it's pressure you're looking for, I can help.

Vote: Kelly Chen

[Mariyta]

My post came after yours, Kelly. I didn't see it there when I was typing. Sorry for the snappy tone, it was just suspicious the way you FOSed me with no explanation.

[Mariyta]

Just trying to jump on the voting train, Hiab?

[Mariyta]

Why would we think BJ or Kelly are town? Are these unconfirmed confirms?

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I'm sticking with my vote on Kelly Chen until I get more evidence as to why I should switch.

[Mariyta]

I personally don't find your posts particularly scummy. I find Kelly's moreso, and I prefer not to waste my vote on someone I'm not feeling strong about.

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rajrhcpfreak

wagonned Pooky, wagonned Max, hammered the doctor without a single word about the guy, voted me, wagonned Max, accused Glork of protecting Max, wagonned Twito, with evidence this time:

Oh yeah and I'm still not gonna RC and pressure won't make that happen. Another thing I actually feel more like voting ubertimmy coz atleast Spamwise postes something but not gonna switch my vote just yet.

That just radiates scumminess.

Then lurked for two weeks and popped up to place a 6th vote on my wagon.

My vote would be here if it weren't for other people's opinions.

You made some very good points. I'm gonna have to think on this before I do anything drastic (like move my vote).

[Mariyta]

After reading over everything, and re-evaluating evidence and previous thoughts/opinions, I'm going to

Unvote, Vote: rajrhcpfreak

. Looking at Buddy's post, it made me think, and I find raj just exudes scumminess at this point.

[Mariyta]

the only thing that explains my actions is that am a plain townie.

thats why i am lurking and not really caring about the game. im sorry. most of you that have played with me knows that i wouldnt be playing like this if i had a halfway intresting role.

this is my least fav role.

That's a pretty poor excuse. Even if you are a townie (which I'm not sure you are), it's a really poor attitude.

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Methinks Kelly is full of it. There's still a lot left to the game, and a "cop" coming out now to get a player who's not really at the top of the hit list lynched..... I'm not buying it.

[Mariyta]

plus looking at this page agian we are getting more anti kelly people. almost making it seam like she would be scum. all the people attacking her cant be scum.

I'm questioning her actions because she waited until now to claim, and declare that she was 100% sure that viking was scum.... We're extremely close to a deadline. It just seems fishy.....

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I like a raj lynch much better then a MBL lynch now...

I would prefer that also.

unvote: vikingfan, vote: raj

Hm, actually I change my mind. I think I'm running too great a risk of being nightkilled for no reason.

I have information related to my role which suggests that vikingfan is scum.

unvote raj, vote: vikingfan

This seems to be the first time we get any hint that Kelly has a "role" that indicates Viking is scum. Then she goes on to say she's 100% sure he's scum. Also, when Viking questioned her sanity, she flat out said she wasn't going to answer his question..... I'm concerned about this.

Unvote Raj

Kelly, would you care to explain before I place my vote back on you?

[Mariyta]

but then we have to think... do we lynch another powerrole?

That's where the dilemma lies. What if she's not a powerrole and is attempting to get viking lynched for some other reason? Do we let her live? But if we let her live, how do we test it?

[Mariyta]

but then we have to think... do we lynch another powerrole?

That's where the dilemma lies. What if she's not a powerrole and is attempting to get viking lynched for some other reason? Do we let her live? But if we let her live, how do we test it?

One of the two is scum, right? Kelly. Vikingfan. Kelly. Vikingfan. It's not rocket science.

I guess it didn't occur to me that this is the test. Hush, I'm sleepy!

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or both is scum... or a townie with information on another townie.

Mariyta:
is there a possiblity that we can kill viking first and if he is good we kill kelly the next day?

That is definately a possibility. Hence the reason I haven't placed my vote yet. I'm trying to decide which I'd rather do.

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im mainly waiting to hear this information. since she will prolly die tonite, unless a doc protects her, she might as well tell us.

BabyJesus, I don't have anything else of use. I'll claim fully tomorrow if you like.

I don't think we'll be getting anymore information.

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Actually, I'm hoping Kelly will chime in with some more information. Hence the reason I haven't voted for either yet.

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If you really are a cop of some sort, you'll be dead anyway..... Why are you figthing this so much?

[Mariyta]

I'm going to give Kelly the benefit of the doubt and

Vote: Vikingfan

.

[Mariyta]

Question: Why is VikingFan voting for himself AND Glork?

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I don't believe he should say one way or the other, though.

That is an interesting comment..... Noted.

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Thanks for pointing those out, Glork. They are very interesting indeed....

I'm looking for stuff from armlx, and I'm not seeing much. What I do see, though, is a weird flop from MBL to Raj, then back again. I don't quite understand that.

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I agree Glork, Fritzler's targets probably were Raj and BJ. The Raj quote looks pretty definitive, the BJ one a bit less so, but nothing else looks better.

In retrospect, this post strikes me as rather odd:

Oh, and Speedy, Cogito Ergo Sum signed up to replace in the Mafia 49 thread in the Queue- I'd like him in now so he can weigh in on this before deadline.

You think there might have been some unscrupulous acts occurring?

[Mariyta]

vote: armlx.

My reasons given yesterday.

*braces for Tamuz's vote*

I can't find that post anywhere. Could you point me in the right direction, pretty please?

[Mariyta]

I would like to see a claim as well, but I'm not ready to vote yet.

[Mariyta]

I'm not convinced on the armlx thing yet. I would like to see some more from him.

Vote: Max

[Mariyta]

Erm now why have I got 2 votes for no reasoning it's like me voting glork as he's voting me pointless.

I don't see anyone else as more suspicous at this point.

[Mariyta]

I'm not sure yet. I'm still trying to work through that. I'm trying to re-read things and get a feel for everyone. Right now, Max is the one that stands out, hence the vote. It may change.

[Mariyta]

I have a new policy. Can anyone figure out what it is?

unvote, vote Spamwise

[Mariyta]

That was totally not my new policy. You guys suck. Guess again.

Maybe I can help you out a bit....

I'm suspicious of Mariyta. So I will vote for

him

.

Vote:Mariyta

[Mariyta]

It's better than being a jerk to everyone.

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Unvote, vote: Max

Just a reminder for everyone, I'm a girl.

[Mariyta]

I really don't understand the votes on me. Anyone care to explain?

[Mariyta]

Your hesitance to express an opinion on armlx, for one.

Your dismissal of Kelly's evidence yesterday, for another.

I'm not hesitant to express an opinion. I said I don't see where the evidence against him is coming from. If by "hesitance" you mean I'm not agreeing with you, than by all means, vote me. Clearly, you are always correct, and could never be wrong.....

As to the "dismissal" of Kelly's evidence.... I still haven't really been able to find that evidence. Again, it seems like I'm being attacked because I don't agree with YOUR vote. Thank you, move along.

[Mariyta]

How hard is "I"m not convinced" to understand? My vote on Max isn't that hard to understand either. Read his posts. You're reaching for straws, my dear Buddy.

And as a guy, you clearly don't understand how annoying it is to be referred to as a "him" all the freaking time. Seriously, is it that hard to look a smidge to the left to make sure the person you're referring to is indeed a guy? "Mariyta" is most distinctly a female name.

Anyway, this is the last time I'm going to refute anything you say until you bring an actual claim against me.

[Mariyta]

Well, I can clear somebody today. Should I just do that? If I had another scum it would be one thing, but I don't. Waiting around doesn't seem like it's going to generate anything useful.

Honestly, Kelly, that's up to you. I mean, you've made it pretty clear what your role is the last few days, so not divulging info isn't going to save you. You may have a strategic plan for saving it though, so I for one am not going to push.

[Mariyta]

So you think Armlx is scum who decided he'd attack you fiercly so that he could set up and claim this one-shot gig?

All I have to go on is that he wagoned M-M and Twito with pretty much no stated reasons and then chose to stick with his vote on me for no stated reasons over a vote for viking based on kelly's claim.

If his claim is true, then he made a bizarre choice there and didn't realize it would bite him in the ass today.

If his claim is false, then I think he made up his claim today after he saw the reasons people were voting for him.

Now

that

is actually a good reason. I don't understand why you couldn't just lay it out like that before.

[Mariyta]

As I stated earlier, I believe armlx. There's no real reason to lynch him. So can we lynch Mariyta already? Obv scum.

I am?

[Mariyta]

Well, I kinda made it up when I was creating a name for an MMO, but I was leaning toward Russian when I made it.

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Max has kind of disappeared. It would be nice for him to say SOMETHING.

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The two lynchees look like Max and Armlx.

Here's my reasons for voting Max. He acts scummy. His posts (when he makes them) are cryptic at best. He says very little, and what he does say does not contribute to discussions at all. His vote remains on Coron, and for the life of me, I cannot find any reason for it. Maybe he would care to explain?

[Mariyta]

I can see the case against Fortify. He's definately someone I will keep an eye on.

FOS: Fortify

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Twito?

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But I am not convinced, as mentioned before, none of this is ironproof I am just mainly thinking out loud.

I always get called scummy for adding clauses like this at the end of my posts. Now I see why.

[Mariyta]

Unvote, vote: Fortify

[Mariyta]

Spoon? Ouch.

Going back to the same place I've been many times.....

Vote: Max

[Mariyta]

I thought I had unvoted for the time being. Oops.

Unvote

Not feeling the STD wagon just yet (although STDs are baaaaaaaaaad).

Would like to hear some sort of claim or defense from him.

[Mariyta]

Vote: STD

What about 6?

[Mariyta]

I, like many people, didn't believe Kelly was a cop for awhile. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but that's the way it is. Max has been acting scummy the whole game, so yes, I voted him. I don't feel the armlx thing, and how did I get "suckered" into voting Kelly? As I already said, I didn't believe her to be a cop at the time. I voted STD simply because he refuses to claim or give a defense. I don't really feel the scummy vibe from him either, and I have no intention of letting my vote stay on him past 7.

[Mariyta]

Yes, I am, so I can make a better informed decision. But you wouldn't realize that would you, since you're willing to vote anyone just to save your scummy hide.

[Mariyta]

I'll be on vacation July 2-8th, just fyi.

[Mariyta]

I'm happy with my vote. And he seems to be against a defense, for some reason.

[Mariyta]

I'm back, fyi.

[Mariyta]

Bah. If you really want to be lynched, I guess I'll help you out.

Vote: Armlx

[Mariyta]

I don't really have anything to contribute on the matter. As of right now, I don't have any strong suspicions about anyone, and armlx wants to die. /shrug

[Mariyta]

How many til lynch? Today is lasting forever.

[Mariyta]

So little has happened it feels like it's been a lot longer.

[Mariyta]

Glork, I love you.

[Mariyta]

I'm not quite sure what you're trying to get at with the "voting bloc". Care to elaborate?

[Mariyta]

Bah. Yet another game I need to go through and re-read. I'll do it later today, hopefully.

[Mariyta]

Not my lover!!!!!

Glork, honey, you seem to have outted yourself. I don't believe your cop claim. I'd be surprised if we had anymore cops in this game. I'm sorry dear, but it's time for you to sleep.

Vote: Glork

[Mariyta]

Why timmy?

[Mariyta]

Why are we looking at a Timmy lynch?

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Vote Max

Going back to my original suspicion until I get a chance to go back and re-read. I want to find out why timmy is such a target (I don't recall anything he did to make it so).

[Mariyta]

A spy?

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A spy?

ou know a person who knows the mafia yet the mafia dont know them they try to help mafia through their vote

Oh, never heard of that before. But the fact that you pointed that out makes me wonder about you....

On another note, I haven't had time to go back and re-read yet, but I feel safe keeping my vote on Max for the time being considering he's suspicious in my eyes, and no where near a lynch.

[Mariyta]

I haven't in 3 years, but we never had spies when I played. Just cops and mafia. We stuck to the basics.

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I'm keeping my vote on Max because I've been suspicious of him since the beginning, and his recent comments have just increased that. A spy? Who would've thought that if they weren't one themselves? I don't see gmk really defending Glork, and if that's the only thing people have against him (I assume it is cause I can't find anything else), it's not enough for me to switch my vote.

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Bah. I'd rather lynch max, but I do see the evidence against CTD. It's probably better to lynch a possible scum, and take a shot at max tomorrow than to not lynch at all..... Bah.

Unvote, Vote: CTD

[Mariyta]

BJ, how can you be so sure he's clean? Everything he's said or done points to him being scum.

[Mariyta]

Undecided between gmk and max. I'm more convinced about max at the moment.

[Mariyta]

Um, wow......

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And a near lynch in 2 days isn't?

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Has he posted at all in the last week? I know he was on vacation before, but he's not anymore. If he's not willing to defend himself at all, I may be inclined to change my opinion on the matter.

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What's a shelterer?

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Wow, I'm a tard. Thanks Coron.

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Well, I thought Max was scum most of the game, but Amelia's quick vote to lynch gmk and putting Max at lynch-2 makes me wonder if she may be scum instead... I'm not willing to put Amelia at lynch-2 yet though, and I'm definately not putting Max at -1. Anyone have any thoughts on the Amelia situation?

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gmk is dead.....

[Mariyta]

Let the mod replace you then. Right now, that sounds like a pretty poor excuse to quick-lynch someone.

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I do want to vote you, but I want others to give their input before I put you so close to a lynch.

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Screw it.

Vote Ameliaslay

No one else has any issues at all with the quick hammer and apathy by Ameliaslay?

[Mariyta]

No comments on Amelia's quick lynch of gmk? I agree on the max thing (or I thought I did), but I'm worried about Amelia too.

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Fair enough, but from what I understand, she won't ask.

[Mariyta]

It would be appreciated if you'd at least try.

[Mariyta]

Welcome aboard. Please claim.

[Mariyta]

Yeah, I wasn't really expecting you to claim w/o reading. It was half joking

[Mariyta]

Haha, that's the way I feel about a lot of people. I always have to go back and read the last page or 2 to remember what's going on in my games.

[Mariyta]

First off, I replaced into this game, just like you, and I've been suspicious of Max since I did. His play is not town play (of course, it never is). Amelia may have been bored, but that's an idiotic reason to place the lynching vote on someone. gmk didn't get any chance right before his lynch, and that makes me think Amelia saw an opportunity. I may be wrong, but as I'm sure you know, it doesn't look good at all.

And yes, I do bandwagon, because I suck at finding scum. Therefore, when other people lay out reasons that make sense and that I can verify, I believe them. I'm still working on learning scumtells and building cases.

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I know I'm not new, but up until this point, my playstyle has gotten me killed. I've recently tried switching it around, but I still am learning to "hunt scum". Unlike many people, I don't put a lot of effort into this game. I play for fun, so sometimes I actually try, other times, I just chill.

Vote me if you feel you need to. I can see why you are suspicious. And I really have no defense other than what I've given you.

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I don't know what exactly you're looking for, Coron. I've been suspicious of Max since I joined the game, but the Amelia thing is just too glaring to ignore. I see SM replaced Nightfall, but I haven't heard much from him (or don't remember much).

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Amelia came in, not paying any attention at all (or so she claimed), and placed the lynching vote on gmk like it was not a big deal. That's what I consider the "amelia thing". Then you were the one to point out her horrible voting record.

[Mariyta]

I'm sticking with my vote for now.

[Mariyta]

"Lynch her and let me live to kill another person." Good point. We should let Primate/Amelia live another day so the scum can win. I'm pretty convinced at this point that Primate is just trying to prolong his life so he can help his scum partner a bit more.

[Mariyta]

Wow. So you have to result to insults? Definately scum.

And I'm sorry. I don't make PBPAs. They're stupid, and a waste of time.

[Mariyta]

Sorry, BJ. You're wrong on that one.

Where's Max? Did we ever get a replacement for him?

[Mariyta]

Um.... *poke*?

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Cause I'm cuter.



Plus I'm actually here. The rest seem to have disappeared. I still have a gut feeling about Max. I haven't liked him since I joined the game. And now he's gone and run away. I don't want to vote yet though, cause I don't want another situation where someone comes in and just hammers because they can, without putting in any effort.

[Mariyta]

So, we're just left hanging?

[Mariyta]

And you couldn't even spell my name right....

[Mariyta]

Um, BJ, could you unvote me so someone can't pull an Amelia and just come in and hammer for no reason? Please?

[Mariyta]

I'll be on vacation Friday 9/29-Monday 10/2, then limited access until 10/8. Replace me if needed, but I'll do my best to keep up.

[Mariyta]

BJ was the godfather. You made the wrong move.

Raj was being Raj I think. It just helped tremendously.