NY 160: Terrible Melodrama Mafia (Game Over)

[Toon Fighter]

vote: Piggygal

every time we play together she's scum

[Toon Fighter]

unvote, vote: Senjay

good wagon is good

[Toon Fighter]

Senjai, why do you change your vote every post, selfvoting even?

Oh, and I typed it wrong

vote: senjai

Now that's right

[Toon Fighter]

He prob means it's just the first page, his votes don't matter much

I don't like when players try to stay in the RVS and dismiss 'situations' like this, like Senjai did. My vote on him is 'real'.

[Toon Fighter]

I didn't like Piggy's chainsaw defense of Senjai. ME thinks there is something worth investigating in there

[Toon Fighter]

I am voting you for wanting to prolong RVS for longer than it's necessary, and saying 'we still have two weeks', refusing to post something meaningful. I give it to you, our argument and the wagon on you DID move us out of RVS, but you shouldn't use the fact that it's day one, page one to ignore something of interest and just troll the thread. You should focus on getting out of RVS as quickly as possible, as staying there doing derp derp is beneficial to scum, not town.

Also, I find your buddying of Piggy (again, in your latest post) to be of note.

[Toon Fighter]

Still not liking some Sejai's posts, but he's looking better.

Secondind N, what do you think about the wagon on you, Senjai?

Agree with DoomYoshi about jacob, still being undecided looks bad. Make a statement, have an opinion, even if you have to change it later on.

[Toon Fighter]

WTH is that Senjai? I didn't back of you just because you called me town. In fact I did nothing you expected me to do. Actually, a gambit like that does make me think you are more town-looking in my book, so there's that. It's not, however, a good gambit.

Also, being undecided is a scum tell. I saw it before, and I will see it again. Heck, I did it myself as scum, and got lynched for it. Scum don't want to lynch a townie and look bad doing it. They know he is town, and being too eager to lynch him may look bad, so scum look undecided until they think it's a safe time to put their vote in the wagon and the townie lynched, looking guiltless as they do it.

I'd expect town to put their vote around instead, checking someone until they are surer of his alignment, and moving on if they decide he's town/sticking if they find him scum. Voting someone and then changing your mind is townie, being undecided is scummy.

Also, agree with Nero, multiposting fluff like that looks bad.

[Toon Fighter]

NC: a bit opportunist with his voting, but I see no wrong/fallacious arguments there. Not many posts, and they all relate to Senjai, so I'd expect a bit more variety next, to provide more analysis on other players, for example.

DC: Not much contributing to the game so far, but helped to create a counter wagon to Senjai, kudos for that. I get his arguments about NC, but I still think his vote could be better explained. I want more scumhunting from him, not just some commentary on the game. Plus, wth is up with the double displacement reaction?

Plan B: liked the exchange with Piggy and Senjai, don't get why he'd move the vote to jacob without mentioning him. Want more explanation on that part

anxiety: not much so far. want to see reasons for her vote, as he mentions addorkable zero times other than the vote, and calls piggy scummy but does nothing on it

Jacob: derp derp derp. Want to see something meaningful here. managed to post nothing but shit so far. keeps a vote on Senjai but calls him null, and calls other players scummy. very undecided as to who he should call scummy. here is a good place to move my vote for now

unvote, vote: Jacob

@Jacob: why do you keep your vote on senjai if you call others possibly scummy?

[Toon Fighter]

yaw. why is JS still alive?

[Toon Fighter]

So, 8 pages and Piggy hasn't bothered to make a single serious vote? Oh well, that's bad. Coupled with careful readings, poor opinions, and no decent scum reads, she definitly needs to put more effort in the game.

[Toon Fighter]

Hi RC. As senjai, I'm expecting good reasons for moving my vote to piggy. But, for what I've seen so far, I'd be happy to put my vote on her.

Plus, what is the reasoning for the mini Cletus wagon?

[Toon Fighter]

intent to hammer piggy. claim now or die in obscurity

[Toon Fighter]

meh, willing to believe for today. if she's telling the truth, she's likely dead tomorrow, if she's still alive, we'll evaluate her investigation and proceed from there. Now, anyone want to lynch JS?

[Toon Fighter]

also, @Piggy: Did you crumb your role? Also, can you paraphrase your role PM?

[Toon Fighter]

Wow, so much going on in this game and you go for a vote like that. Ok. I was just checking Piggy's claim, and it hurt nothing getting her to paraphrase the PM. If she had failed to do so, it could mean a scum slip. But, I fail to see why asking her to paraphrase the PM would be scummy or deserve a vote in any way.

Actually, your vote was so shitty, it deserves a vote itself.

unvote, vote: N

[Toon Fighter]

Hello

Didn't like Piggy's and Senjai's combo bandwagoning, especially after DC's post;

[Toon Fighter]

@N: you quoted my post but I saw no response. Y U No ANSWER?

[Toon Fighter]

I'M ABOUT TO BE LYNCHED?!?!

I'll go ahread and role claim since I don't think I'll be on the computer again till the 13th but I'm a town roleblocker.

don't like that claim

unvote, vote: NC

die, scum

[Toon Fighter]

@GB: meh, I have no real answer to that. Your first post consists of making connections when no player has flipped yet. I'd vote Piggy to prove you wrong, but if:

a) she flips town we have just lost a townie and you'll still accuse me
b) she flips scum you'll just accuse me of bussing

So I'll not answer you today, I will instead wait for night and the flips, and will answer you then. That does not mean I wont hammer/vote Piggy, if need come, it just means I wont do that because of what you said.

[Toon Fighter]

Actually, looking over this game, I'm inclined to go ahead and lynch piggy. Disregarding the roleclaim, EVERYTHING points to her being scum.

let's lynch the pig

unvote, vote: Piggygal

[Toon Fighter]

vote: N

Need more time to read, but I think my vote is in a good place for now

[Toon Fighter]

Has NC claimed his action yet? I didn't see anything

Anyway, I like F_16's case on JS. Will

unvote, vote: JacobSavage

[Toon Fighter]

@ Nero Cain: You claimed Roleblocker, right? Who did you target N1?

Non-response is akin to scum claim.

[Toon Fighter]

I am a vanilla townie