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VitaminR Mafia Scum
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BrianMcQueso wrote:vote: StrykkerVerdeVitaminP was the first on the wagon, but he wasn't the only one. Admittedly, I joined in too. But nevertheless, the fact is that you singled him out, and tried to cast suspicion on him while ignoring everyone else who followed you. Suspicious behavior.
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I read it as a claim and followed. That's all there is to it.StrykkerVerde wrote:Other people who bandwagoned at least gave some sort of explination as to why they were willing to jump ship, VitaminQ simply jumped on the ship with no explination and no reasoning, like a sheep he did. Besides that my comment about him was just one of many, I didnt intend to single anybody out, you Brian are assuming that I was trying to get him lynched. Now it seems like you're trying to get attention shifted to me for essentially being an idiot.
Now I know how BabyJesus feels.
Also, it's Vitamin&.&.
I'm a bit puzzled by Fritzler's reading of Don Gaetano's post, but it's not worth a vote yet. No-one really stands out for me at the moment.-
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VitaminR Mafia Scum
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That's the annoying part.BrianMcQueso wrote:In case you haven't noticed, Vitamin£, it's intentional
Well when StrykkerVerde likens me to a sheep, I think I need to post something.armlx wrote:If someone comes right out and claims (saying they know for a fact) that someone is scum, there is not reason needed to vote. Vitamin has no need to make up for the fact he voted without a reason...-
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Did you just post that to make a bad pun or would you like me to expand on my earlier post?BrianMcQueso wrote:
I agree.VitaminSheep wrote:Well when StrykkerVerde likens me to a sheep, I think I need to post something.
I'm not sure about Fritzler. What I've seen of him in other games makes it seem like he always act suspiciously so I'm a little hesitant to put a vote on him quickly for something so abstract as productivity.-
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I think secret voting is done in such a way that you can't really figure out who it is by looking at who hasn't voted much or at all. Even if that is not included in the mechanics of secret voting, the secret voter would take care not to stand out. It'sFalcone wrote:Now who could have the ability? It's true that VitaminR isn't voting anyone right now, but he voted earlier. He unvoted before Dranko put up a votecount though. At some point, I thought it might be darquiel who had the secret vote, and that maybe it was part of a restriction that she couldn't post at all, but that theory seems to be obsolete now. If I had to guess who was it, I'd say jediknight. He hasn't voted yet, and he even said in his first post that he was not going to (random) vote. I don't know if it's worth pressuring him about it, though.secretvoting. Speculation won't get you far.
Sorry I haven't posted. I tend not to post and vote unless I feel there is something substantial to discuss.Oh, and i'll Vote: Vitamin&... because....well, he's not voting for anyone... and the most he's done is complain about people messing w/ his name.
Well if people would stop misspelling my name...
Twomz, I think this is a bit of strange vote. You seem to be searching for reasons to vote me (at least that's what the ellipsis tells me).-
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I'm not sure about StrykkerVerde today, but the role is easily verifiable tomorrow. There is no reason for targetted people not to come forward (it says nothing about their role) and scum would never take such a huge risk to keep up the charade of a false claim.
The fact that people haven't commented on your post does not mean they have not read it.
I have to agree with your opinion of the bandwagon on you, but I don't think it's big enough to worry about it that much. You have to realise that there is very little info at this point.-
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Shamrock, could you give a real response to Falcone's post? You have only responded to one remark. I didn't see why he picked you out at first, but I must say your lack of response (especially when Falcone can not post a lot) is starting to make me very suspicious of you.
What really struck me in the Twomz rush thing was that everybody seemed to be repeating the same easy arguments.
I think we need more posts from a lot of people, btw.
None of these people have posted since Dec 20:
Jediknight
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VitaminR Mafia Scum
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I kinda believe Snap in that it probably was an accident, but I think the nonchalance that caused the fact that he didn't know certainly indicates a lack of concern over who we lynch.
Armlx, could you explain what you refer to when you say:
(emphasis mine)I realize I did jump on the wagon on Twomz yesterday too, butSnap was doing stuff earlier that day.
Shamrock wrote:What response do you want me to give? Despite the verbosity of Falcone's post, all he really said was talking about my *groan* comment, which I already responded to, and my lack of posting. My lack of posting is because, apparently unlike a lot of people on these forums, I don't post when I have nothing constructive to do or say.
Shamrock, it might be helpful if you point that out next time. To me, you seemed to be ignoring most of his post or unwilling to respond.
Jediknight, the masons didn't really discuss anything pertinent I'm afraid (at least not with my involvement). I was away on holiday with very limited access. I was only able to check in once during the night period. Maybe Shamrock and StrykkerVerde had a more productive discussion.
I would still like to see some of our lurkers step up and post. It shouldn't be too difficult to form an opinion on what happened yesterday.-
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Hmm, 7 votes in a row? What strikes me as odd that five of them were also on the Twomz lynch (only logic and chamber weren't). Also, Shamrock and Snap voted late on both bandwagons and every time with little content. I also think Fritzler's bandwagoning is starting to become slightly exaggerated with a lot of third and/or fourth votes. With that and the comment BMQ picked out, I'm keeping an eye on him.
Falcone is being a bit cryptic, but I'm going to trust him on it for now.-
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Hehe. Don Gaetano, you are seriously confusing me.
Anyway, I've made up my mind. Shamrock and Snap strike me more as followers, where I think Fritzler and also Falcone are the driving force behind these bandwagons. Falcone has reasons, though. Fritzler seems to throw a vote on everything that has the potential of becoming a bandwagon. Also, he hasn't attempted to defend himself in any way. Furthermore, this bandwagon seems to have a lot more reasoning and careful thinking behind it than any of the bandwagons so far.
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You're right, that was not worded accurately. I tend towards hyperbole I'm afraid (especially when I've just written an essay ). I do feel like there is more thought behind it, that is just my impression. I am not going to analyse the votes and assign values, but that was my impression. Maybe it has to do with the way I approached my vote, I don't know. I know it took me a while to make up my mind about this.Falcone wrote:VitaminR, I find it very hard to believe you really think the Fritzler bandwagon "has more reasoning and careful thinking behind it than any of the bandwagons so far".
I know voting for Fritzler because of bandwagoning is not productive. I even stated this earlier in this game during a small day 1 bandwagon on him. I'm voting Fritzler because that's all he's doing! Maybe it's my experience, but I've gotten the impression that despite the bandwagoning there is some focus on finding scum with Fritzler. I haven't seen that so far in this game. Also, although I'm merely repeating my reasons now, he hadn't really responded to the votes on him before my vote.Falcone wrote:Voting Fritzler for bandwagoning is not really very productive, because he does it in every single game he's in, regardless of his alignment, and aside from that, I just don't see what he did wrong. He was on the Twomz bandwagon, but as I said before, it would have been more remarkable if he hadn't been, and I'm more suspicious of the people who voted for Twomz after the deadline was set.
Obviously I should be in more games with Fritzler before I even attempt to get a read on him.
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I'm keeping my vote on chamber I think. His play is more important than his claim, especially because I'm not entirely convinced of his claim. Although I have to admit that the fact that he came forward with the fact that he vigged LyingBrian does speak for him.
I'm puzzled by this, Don G. I have no idea how you would have followed me last night. I have no night action.
You say were allowed to follow me without choosing your target? Do you think the mod (or whatever caused this) would hand you scum on a plate?
Also, if you really there's a chance that I'm scum, what's with the vague gut feeling votes? Don't you think scum would be able to see through that? In that case, you would be giving scum information and leaving us ignorant.-
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Sotty7 wrote:
Thought I'd better since I was voting himFritzler wrote:
Using his real name was noted.Sotty7 wrote:Alright, I'm just about caught up.
Seems Friz has confirmed Strykker, so how about we test Don Gaetano's role and lynch VitaminR today?
Vote: VitaminR
Recognition!
I thought MineralX was particularly creative and I don't really mind any more. Though I am curious what else people can come up with. Vitamin007 was a nice twist, for instance.-
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