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catching up...
familiar with six names on the player list.
hydras are okay, but posting needs to be done under the same account. if not, i see no reason to lynch you. large games are good that way.
wow. very convincing rvs case on pacman.
not sure why dh is saying guderian.
guderian = overreaction.
i didn't know mastin was a "well-known" scumhunter. i had the impression they were a lurky VI. but i think i've only shared a game or two with them and it had to be a long time ago.
so guderian claims scum?
post 45. iam launches the either/or fallacy question. i don't like it one bit.
nacho is town.
iam 53 redeems.
aaaaaaaaaannnnnddd parama claims scum. got it.
55 and 56. please don't play the noob card simultaneously. not here. not now.
and tyler plays the noob card. *facepalm*
my lynch pool here sits at tyler/untrod/ender...
and parama.
i don't like this. i know what its supposed to mean, but it reads like a scumslip.rosswilliam wrote:Maybe one is larger, but less powered.
70. no. you are avoiding the situation. making early lists helps root out scum, spur discussion, and leaves a veritable trail of votes and suspicions for townies to look back at and find scum at a later date.
add guderian.
76. nothing about nhammen says he's town. but you give him the "misguided" pass. i don't get it.
dh starts to look worse.
82 is silly. pouring salt on a wound is scummy.
nhammen. my kind of monkey. picking up on the same shit i'm seeing.
93. uberscummy. this is a large game. there is no reason to unvote here.
94: nhammen, marry me.
102: why defend nacho? also, asking empking to contribute more is like asking a donut to not be so tasty.
117: rosswilliam again being silly.
then why "read through again"? in fact, why continue posting? why not just vote wolf and be done with it?EPM wrote:First of all, Werewolf just dug himself a nice little hole by proving he's not reading with the above post and will probably get my vote when I read through again.
145 = no good.
tj is now bordering on being "the scum using every possible out of game issue to account for his lack of content" guy. that has to be what, 2 or 3 posts of nothing but excuses as to why he's not posting? i'd have to go back and check, but i'm sensing a pattern.
vote: rosswilliam
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ross wrote:That'll help me catch up. At a glance, don't like EPM or DH but I do need to read more carefully before getting in depth.
^^ this? really? ross basicaally chimes in withone sentenceof alleged content and uses that sentence to point the finger at two of the more vocal players in the game. not to mention that both players were on opposite sides of an argument, thus giving ross an easy way to justify a vote on either of them at a later time. how is this "town" again?
please point out the "harsh treatment".mastin wrote:Ross isn't a new player, obviously, but it's an example of a read that I feel Don was only looking half-heartedly at, not really thinking about it for more than a few seconds.His harsh treatment of newbiesand his general reads feel like they are extremely lazy, putting no intention to look even remotely beyond the surface.
ad hom.mastin wrote:When you look only at the literal meaning, you are not being a good player; EVERYone has to do a little reading between the lines.
yes. i read the entire thread. i pointed out what i felt was off while i was reading it. i then laid my vote on who i felt was the most suspicious of all. the guy with two poorly reasoned votes, no content, and a fingerpoint at two players in an early argument. zero scumhunting. zero content. two votes.mastin wrote:I do so more than most people do, but still, everyone needs at least some of that basic effort to understand the meaning.
when you do what? ignore their play? pretend they are giving content when they are not? if you are going to DEFEND a group of players then you need to produce a little more than "well, if you look past the surface you will see they are town.mastin wrote:And when you do that, Ross looks town, not scum. Most of the newbies look good, too, yet from what I saw, you didn't have a positive opinion on any of them.
you are full of bs. you are defending players who have done nothing to deserve it. you are not adequately explaining anything. tell me, in 50 words or less, why you think rosswilliam is not deserving of a vote.
ad hom.mastin wrote:That is not how any good player plays mafia.
noob cards:
ender wrote:I'm really disliking the fact that after a couple pages with little not many people posting people are making decisions on who's scum and town already.I haven't played any gamesexcept from newbie games on this site but you can't automatically decide who's scum and who isn't...untrod wrote:...I have never been in a game where people make srsface scumlists on page 2.I really have no idea what to make of this.
saying "one of these days" implies that this happens alot to you. i interpret it as you being newbie. its not a big deal. i didn't make it a big deal. you tried to imply that i made a big deal about it, but fact is, i didn't. in fact, i didn't vote any of the three players i called out on the noob card. the rest of your posting lacks content imo. if you would like i can do a pbp iso for you. as it is, i would rather you look at rosswilliam and tell me if you think he's town. then ask yourself why calcifer is defending people and what you think about his response to my rosswilliam vote. those types of things are going to be more helpful than trying to engage in a semantics argument over what i consider to be "playing the noob card" and what you consider to be "playing the noob card". the point is rather irrelevant atm. but whatever.tj wrote:One of these days, I'll post without having to correct it.
lynching them out is an option as well. especially considering mastin seems intent on wallposting fluff and defending players who should be defending themselves...dh wrote:You aren't considered two different players though. You are considered one. That's the risk you take with hydras.
Agree with everything before you produce output in a QT or on AIM or something or I'm replacing out.town 39-32
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i referred to the posts as "playing the noob card". that's not "overreacting".
i didn't say "omgz we gotz to lynch these mothafuckas RIGHT NOWZ!".
but instead you choose to argue the "noob" thing. anytime you want to start contributing, you let me know.dj wrote:i would rather you look at rosswilliam and tell me if you think he's town. then ask yourself why calcifer is defending people and what you think about his response to my rosswilliam vote. those types of things are going to be more helpful than trying to engage in a semantics argument over what i consider to be "playing the noob card" and what you consider to be "playing the noob card". the point is rather irrelevant atm. but whatever.town 39-32
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chk: kik's posts are mine. she was logged into my smart phone and i didn't realize it.
DGB: i'd rather keep the pressure on rosswilliam, but i could be persuaded to a tj lynch. rosswilliams 1st post just looks like scum calling out the participants of the obligatory "argument which generates discussion" that seems to happen in a large percentage of games. it doesn't necessarily "clear" the participants(especially in a dual scum set-up, but it just looks like real poor form. follow it up with the unreasoned votes and i don't see a reason to think he's town. i mean, i make unreasoned votes too, i think a lot of players do and i don't think it a stand alone scumtell, but when you put the pieces together in a post count of 3, you just have to wonder...town 39-32
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thanks mastin. the explanation makes sense. though i don't agree with the entire thought process, i get where you're coming from. also, it appears rw has replaced out.
unvote, vote: guderian
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i thought mastin's explanation was clear enough. dgb jumping on this point gives me pause as well.Guderian wrote:Mastin, why do you want to get information rather than lynch scum? If you want to lynch scum, vote DH.town 39-32
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no double standard.
^^ chicken or egg? looks like dh suggested first. then empking. also, dh wants to "react"dh wrote:However, I'd prefer to react to a claim and hammer if it's okay with everyone.and"hammer". why get the claim at all if the intent is to hammer regardless? maybe its a typo, but are you honestly thinking a werewolf lynch is going to tell us anything? there is no indication that werewolf is scum which means we need to weugh his lynch on info gathered. of which, there will be none. unless of course you want to call the wagon "uber scummy" and imnplicate everyone involved in this insidious quicklynch attempt? whatever.town 39-32
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w.o.w.
look at all the "reaction" you got from that claim. [/sarcasm]
thanks, dh, for all that enlightening discussion you allowed us to have on day 1.
dh wrote:2. He claims and I have decided that his claim is not genuine for whatever reasonand that he is definite scum
hi. my name is demonhybrid. and i'm scum.dh wrote:Lets take the leap and see what happens. Regardless,I guarantee scum is on the wagonsomewhere in the middle, but analyzing it will come in time.
seriously.
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they are not. they are who i think should be lynched today. going outside of those choices is a waste of time atm imo.nhammen wrote:Why are those the only two choices?
because i chose to engage him.nhammen wrote: Why is this directed specifically at Battle Mage?
no. i don't care who he expresses suspicion of. i was simply pointing out that it would be more beneficial if he focused on our top two suspects for now.nhammen wrote:Was he expressing suspicion of someone you didn't want him to?town 39-32
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DemonHybrid wrote:By the way, is it better for the other Mason to come out now? Or wait until the next day?
Legitimate inquiry. A confirmed townie would do us a world of good, but not with two/three easy lynches on the line, including myself.unvote, vote DH
are you always this stupid? scum is dropping like flies and you want a mason claim?town 39-32
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my apologies. that wasn't meant as an insult. it was a question.
you ask if its a good idea for the mason to claim, then say you don't think its a good idea. thats my idea of an absolutely useless anti-town post as the only thing that can come of it is a mason claim, which you agree it is entirely too early for. but whatever. ignore me if you want.town 39-32
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to be clear, we're looking for third party to calcifer/battlemage, correct? its going to be a bitch keeping replacements straight. its probably going to take me a while to get a whole reread done, so if you guys all want to lynch, then feel free to discuss. just no votes.town 39-32
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