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Placing vote here because while noone has actually caught my eye for being scummy Thingyman is developing a tendancy to draw away from what is happening in thread. I know he's new but someone that has played quite a bit of Mafia should know to keep things on track unless you want to confuse the town, which has happened.
Most people's votes are null and void thanks to them all being based on misundersdtandings about claiming. Yes we should mass claim because nothing inherently bad will come of it because the game is nightless so can we just get over that and on with the game?Don't @ me.-
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@ Baby: I was joking but yeah it's purrtyful.
@ Thingy: You're missing the point. The claiming issueshould never have needed to be discussed.You're nowhere near the only person to post about about it but the whole thing in and as of itself was stupid and time wasting. Luckily time is a non issue in this game.Don't @ me.-
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As I said there was nothing to make analysis on. If you had payed any attention during your iso of me then you would have understood that. I wanted pressure so that I would actually have something to look at which I could start using to make reads. There's some stuff around now so I'll have a post soon. Gotta go grocery shopping so I'll have something commenting on the new interesting stuff when I get back.Don't @ me.-
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@ Reck: Way to make anew wagon but I can't really agree with it. The tone is somewhat jovial in the first post so I am inclined to believe that most parts are joking as she said. I think you're reading a bit much into it but it's still a valid case if you interpret it that way. I'm not going to join that wagon but I'm not going to oppose.
Now to go read a couple of pages. Give me a few minutes, if I'm allowed them.Don't @ me.-
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Least important point first: It's hard to believe if you had time to make a non-helpful post then you would have had enough time to make a post at least halfway helpful to anyone.
And that's why the vote is on you not Baby.
Now Baby, in my skim read for Kise while looking for where my vote would go (I'm leaving Emp and Thingy alone for now because emp is making an effort and despite not agreeing with him he does have some points valid to his thinking as shown in thread.) I came across #162.
You obviously had time to make a post so you made a half assed attempt at passing off resonding to a random person's points in a discussion which doesn't concern you. Fine it's Mafia but a) couldn't be less confrontation, fencesitting and trying to make everyone happy and b) has no grounds other than an opinion which hasn't taken into account that people have brain lapses when reading something that is suggesting against the facts. Such as what is the case with the whole nightkill shizz. Passing the post off with a smilie may be fine but so far as I can see with the exception of in the short rvs noone has thought it apt to make a joke in the same post as something trying to pass itself off as serious.
Mountain out of an ant hill yes but adding to the fact that your partner is obviously active lurking through the early stages of the game and you have something that looks pretty bad.Don't @ me.-
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@ reck from a couple of pages back. I know the case is a stretch but Active Lurking is alo scummier than plain lurking. werewolf is also guilty of this but kcd is THE active lurker in this game. I'm not going to stick my head in the whole reck-kise-silavor thing other than to say that I most agree with recks posting (maybe not the tone) but I'm not 100% sold on either of them being scum. Kise could easily be mistaken and silavor seems to just be out of his depth.
Other than that my vote stays until I get reason to believe that kcd is actually being stupid and not deliberately active lurking.Don't @ me.-
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Oh shutup. Kise is town regardless of wether she had a convo with anyone about this game. For someone to beat a wagon that hard they had to be extremely sure. 1 for 1 is not in scums interests. The only way kise is scum is if the two of you are scum buddies and this is crafted. I'm not seeing that anymore so therefore kise is town. That doesn't mean reck is scum however.Don't @ me.-
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@ Llama looks bad = scummy, unless you are looking to make incredibly weak first page cases.
@ Emp: Because noone here can truthfully say they have never thought they had said something when it hasn't happened. Happens to me all the time and a similar thing happened to PO earlier in this game with the whole NK thing. Why wouldn't I avoid the matter for the most part. I posted a neat opinion so everyone knows where I stood on the 'debate'. I didn't completely avoid, I just said what I felt I needed to to get my opinion accross and nothing more. Butting into debates like that just gets town sidetracked by adding more unneeded variable. I should be posting more important things like who I think is scum, which I did.Don't @ me.-
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Would someone like to go and have a look at what I have been saying all day? kcd's the worst lurker in this game seeing as he is the most active lurker. He is a better lynch than any of the other wagons because they, if they are indeed scum, can actually give us a hand catching members of their rival scumteam.
@Umbridge, No it hasn't gone unnoticed. But then again neither has your bad play.Don't @ me.-
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Only just realised. This game is only 5 days old. Most games with this many people are barely forming wagons by this stage. We still have over two weeks to deadline.
OK, fill out this form:
Two biggest scumpairs:
Two pairs you think need to pick up their post (rate or quality) but you have a town read on:
Two townpairs:Don't @ me.-
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@ Llama: ?
I've said I find him scummy. Why make the case when I'm already on a wagon that I am sure is scum. Derailing good wagons is in itself scummy. If I decided to post an umbridge case right now that would be like me saying, "Oh, wait. I have scum here ready to be lynched but nah I'll go make a case on someone else and let that scum that I helped catch live." It just makes no sense. That is why I want those lists. So we can see who thinks who is scummy without them having to back it up witch strong cases. It's not like scum can kill me before I show why they are scum. I have said earlier that IU think Umbridge is scum but that kcd is a better wagon.
@ wolf: You going to do anything productive at all?
But fine.
Two biggest scumpairs:
kcd/BS and umbridge/q21
Two pairs you think need to pick up their post (rate or quality) but you have a town read on:
DBE/Llamarble and implosion/kise
Two townpairs:
mine and probably reck. His recent posts have steered my null to a town.Don't @ me.-
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Grey. That's a rather immature way of looking at it. AtE's are not a scumtell. Sure AtEs come accross as scummy but it all depends on the tone. I've seen them come from both sides and when you have played as many Newbie games as an SE as me (Because then it is less of a teaching role.) you get to pick up the differences between scum and town AtEs. I'll have to have a look back but I'm really getting any points either way from umbridges which doesn't pull him out of a scum read at all though.Don't @ me.-
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1. That's not the whole case. My half is coming soon but it is taking ages.
2. Look up the meaning of the word stagnant. Kcd wagon is quickly becoming stagnant and q21's is headed that way as well. They are losing momentum.
3. There over half the day left yet. So don't even try to sell off the, "Why not just go with one of these lovely wagons here" thing you seem to be going for.Don't @ me.-
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If you had read my post I said it didn't have anything to do with it. However the way you worded made it sound like you were saying that all lover pairs were married, which they aren't. Reread the way your post was written. What I am saying you implied and you being being married have nothing to do with each other.Nero Cain wrote:The hint should have been when I said I've been married for three years. This game hasn't been going on for three years. I have no clue how me being married IRL has anything to do with me being scum in this game.Don't @ me.-
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Gonna have to do the first one first. I have to go pretty far back in mine and PO's qt for the second.
Basically it comes down to that for a pair that said next to nothing through day 1 while a town pair came under great scutiny coupled with an extreme change of tone come the new day when there is no sure lynch points to me like a scum couple that are trying to completely stay under the radar when they can and only popping in when they need to. if you want an example, take a look at mari's reactions just after the vote on her. Thick with omgus. It's like her play falls apart when there isn't a sure town lynch.Don't @ me.-
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Is this ww's first useful post?werewolf555 wrote:The problem is that this game will go on for at least two more months because of the no-night policy.
This is exactly why we should be lynching either kcd or Mary because discussing multiple targets at this stage with little evidence is the right way to waste time and make the game boring. BS is going in the right direction with the votecount analysis but that needs more info. I'd rather keep kcd around because 1. I don't think he is scum. (PO is starting to doubt me on my town read but eh), 2. BS is actually trying to do stuff, 3. Mary is proving not very useful. Avoiding the game when we are lynching or looking like lynching town and gets overly aggressive, omgus-y and overall acting like flailing scum when it looks like she might get lynched.
CAN WE START MOVING THIS THING ALONG NOW???Don't @ me.-
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-yawn- just woke up.
@ - Mari, Stop being butthurt.
@ - Kise, At least i can put together your reasoning.
@ - Nero, I hadn't thought kcd and bs were scum for quite some time. I was out of the game for quite a bit. I came back took a look back and saw how much more scummy mari and tragedy had been.
@ - Tragedy, How am I flying under the radar. I deliberately voted for you two yesterday with no reasoning to NOT go under the radar. Nothing like watching scum flail in the face of a reasonless vote which is backed up by evidence later. Exactly like it happened with Mari yesterday. There is also more than one point in that bolded bit. If you're going to make a counter case as wafer thin as that it might be an idea to actually delete the stuff in the quote that proves your arguments invalid. I started her wagon way before there were any votes on me. How am I omgus-ing?
Where did I say it was scummy to make a new wagon. I said i disagreed with his choice of wagon. I never said it was scummy to start one. I did point out somewhere that i was officially declaring kcd as drmyshotty. That is more than enough of an iddication that I wasn't getting any of my read on the pair from him.Don't @ me.-
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