Mafia 123 - Outdoorsmen Mafia 2 GAME OVER
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OK, several people have only posted a few times, but here are my reads at this point.
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nhammen- seems to be looking for information and making logical decisions.
Empking- His vote for Nacho looks like something a townie would say.
iamausername- see above, except because of his defense of Guderian. I disagree, though, as I'd expect scum to carefully read the sample role PM.
Calcifer- they're making a lot of sense to me.
DemonHybrid- This one's hard to explain, but he's not staying in the background as scum would.
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Parama
chkflip
don_johnson
RossWilliam- I'd like him to explain his DH vote, please.
ender241
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werewolf555- only a few posts, and all he's really done is parrot other's ideas. I haven't seen any scumhunting from him.
tylerjarvis- I don't like his HoS on Demon. Why do a "jumpy nature and snap judgments" (ISO #5) make someone scum?
evilpacman18- OK, I have nothing really to add to the case on him, but I agree with Calcifer's argument that he's been defensive.
Guderian- Yeah, he overreacted to DH's statement about the possible scumteam. Guderian is always aggressive, but it feels like he's focusing on defending himself rather than aggressively scumhunting.
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the people under each heading are in no particular order.chkflip wrote:bvoigt, I see you haven't changed a bit. Still putting yourself at the very top of your towny list. Aside from the fact that you know your alignment, what (that you've done) would implicate you into such a position?
What seems fake about it?chkflip wrote:VOTE: Empking- his hunting, so far, seems fake. Also, if you're into meta, this is exactly how he played the above-linked scum game.-
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This is a good point. It looks like he might have been trying to subtly discourage a wagon on his buddy. I'm happy with my Tyler vote, though.iamausername wrote:Also saw this post from ender (DGB's predecessor), when evilpacman was being run up early on:
makes me think Calcifer may well be onto something.I'm really disliking the fact that after a couple pages with little not many people posting people are making decisions on who's scum and town already. I haven't played any games except from newbie games on this site but you can't automatically decide who's scum and who isn't...-
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More than 2.nhammen wrote:Interesting. So you both say that Calcifer may be right about pacman, but then go and vote an active lurker. How many scum are in this game again?
UT has lurked more than Tyler.Calcifer wrote:
They both are, but it's who they vote for which is important. Iam votes for UT, which is a valid vote.nham wrote:Exactly. But why is iamausername not guilty of this, while bvoigt is?
bv votes for a relatively-new player who is a little on the lurkerish side.
Which of those looks worse?-
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Nah, I was just pointing out that Calcifer's point wasn't really true.iamausername wrote:
And that makes him abvoigt wrote:
UT has lurked more than Tyler.Calcifer wrote:They both are, but it's who they vote for which is important. Iam votes for UT, which is a valid vote.
bv votes for a relatively-new player who is a little on the lurkerish side.
Which of those looks worse?lessvalid vote?
Also, I have a townread on Parama.-
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Nah, I didn't know that Werewolf had been active elsewhere until checking his posts after iam's vote.DeathRowKitty wrote:bvoigt now takes to following others. If bvoigt knew werewolf was active and posting elsewhere, it seems weird it would only occur to him to bring it up after werewolf gained a couple of votes. bvoigt now my biggest scum read.
In other news, I think that most of the scum are lurking. This game needs a wagon or something.-
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DH's hammer did seem fairly scummy, but I'm voting EPM.Empking wrote:
Can I presume from your last comment that you're voting DH?bvoigt wrote:
Nah, I didn't know that Werewolf had been active elsewhere until checking his posts after iam's vote.DeathRowKitty wrote:bvoigt now takes to following others. If bvoigt knew werewolf was active and posting elsewhere, it seems weird it would only occur to him to bring it up after werewolf gained a couple of votes. bvoigt now my biggest scum read.
In other news, I think that most of the scum are lurking. This game needs a wagon or something.-
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SensFantylerjarvis
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Unless all 3 Eastern Mafia were on the werewolf wagon, one of these guys is the final Eastern Mafia.
Tyler's ISO has almost no scumhunting. And look at the similarities between post #55 and post #58:
ender241 wrote:I'm really disliking the fact that after a couple pages with little not many people posting people are making decisions on who's scum and town already. I haven't played any games except from newbie games on this site but you can't automatically decide who's scum and who isn't...
With their buddy getting in trouble immediately, perhaps both the newbie scum tried to stop the immediate judgements? I know, it's not a very convincing case, but...just ISO Tyler and see if you get the same feeling of newbie scum.tylerjarvis wrote:Wow you guys made some quick judgments. Sorry I'm just now getting started, I thought this game wasn't supposed to start until today.
VOTE: SensFan-
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The first post was made during twilight D1, when werewolf had claimed scum. And yeah, I know my EPM vote was sheeping. The main actual reasons were his excuses for active lurking and link to Ender (iamausername's ISO #11).SharkFinn wrote:bvoigt wrote:I will support an nhammen lynch tomorrow.
bvoigt: Your votes on evilpacman13 when he was lynched had no reasoning to it, aside from bandwagoning. What exactly made evilpacman scummy and why did you make the first post about nhammen, yet completely abandon it both days.bvoigt wrote:UNVOTE: DemonHybrid
VOTE: evilpacman13
I'm more convinced that EPM is scum, and I think my previous vote has served its purpose.-
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Why do you say there are two scum remaining?SharkFinn wrote:Im VT as well.
I was about to call Don out on not being mason (seeing a lack of connection between him and chk/DRK), but I am mistaken. Don is mason imo.
Im going to call out on iam asfirst of the remaining two scumfor the reason that:
1. He's acted scummy most of the game, playing anti-main stream and opportunistically jumping on werewolf555.
2. His last "content post" before he went VLA consisted of calling WIFOM out on Don. Calling WIFOM is scummy imo.
Though, I will not vote him until he returns, hopefully with content.-
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Good game, everyone. I was still leaning DH as scum in the final day, but I'm surprised you guys lynched Shark. He was pretty clear town to me. Also, I had to laugh when I got voted in 5 straight posts. Especially with this:
So the town move would have been to quickhammer?iamausername wrote:Post #637: Final nail in the coffin. bvoigt playing the long game because he knows he needs to get two mislynches to win, so he's looking to keep me around for tomorrow.-
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